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post Dec 6 2008, 02:40 AM

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Legs Thursday 4/12/2008

Deadlifts

Warm up
135lbs x 5
225lbs x 5

Work sets
315lbs x 5
405lbs x 1
425lbx x 1
475lbs (failed attempt)
425lbs x 1
315lbs x 8

Leg curls
5 plates x 12
5 plates x 12
5 plates x 8 drop set to 4 plates x 4
4 plates x 13

Calf presses
315lbs x 20
Full stack x 25
Full stack x 20
405lbs x 20

Standing calf raises (per leg)
BW + 50lbs x 15
BW + 50lbs x 15
BW + 35lbsx 15

Comments:-
Had to lay off leg extensions, quads were still sore from last week's leg workout. Funny, I failed the 475 pounds deadlift possibly because I overdid the warmup sets. Stay tuned, will try again in 2 weeks time.


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post Dec 9 2008, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Dec 6 2008, 02:03 PM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif that is how i workout too! I prefer instinctive than planned workout!

Hey darkie, got the video of wide-grip lat pull down?Thanks in advance...
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Not yet.

QUOTE(musclemass @ Dec 6 2008, 05:22 PM)
THIS IS MADNESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Yep! ^^;;

QUOTE(kege @ Dec 6 2008, 11:12 PM)
it gives really great results though biggrin.gif the pump achieved is awesome but i dont know if that contributes to muscle growth. its how i always structure my arms day too. picked it up from some arnold schwarzenegger training journal.
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Yep.

QUOTE(mofonyx @ Dec 7 2008, 10:07 AM)
I assume the 3 day split still counts for the same number of workouts per muscle group (discounting shoulder presses for 5 sets of lateral raises).

So Monday would be 4 chest workouts, 3 shoulder workouts and 3 arm workouts?

Having 3 days also means losing the superset arms?
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Yep!

I'm on a tight schedule these few days. Skipping chest and back today. I might do legs tomorrow.
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post Dec 9 2008, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Dec 9 2008, 02:40 PM)
hello! argh, i was actually looking forward to having a peek at your chest and back workout...
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Sigh... for goodness' sake, lol. Just go back a few pages. My past chest workout is there. Don't just read updated posts.

QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Dec 9 2008, 02:40 PM)
btw, i'm doing back tomorrow and i'm planning to do wide-grip pulldowns, seated cable rows, and one arm dumbbell rows. the fourth exercise would have to be a vertical back workout, but from the list of your exercises, all the 4 recommended vertical exercises are basically just pulldowns, with slightly different positions.

may i know what's the difference between doing the pulldowns with a wide, close or hammer grip? and not forgetting behind-the-neck pulldowns as well... thank you! smile.gif
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Bodybuilding seems to work in opposites. Close grip works upper lats, wide grip works lower lats and hammer grip does wonders for thickness. I don't like BTN pulldowns.

QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Dec 9 2008, 02:40 PM)
oh and i found this on BB.com: is this any good?

Full Range-of-Motion Lat Pulldown
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Does shit for mass. Useless. You can't use much weight.

QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Dec 9 2008, 02:40 PM)
for arms day, 3 biceps and 3 triceps exercise, how many sets do you usually do per exercise? 4 sets seem quite a lot to me..  blink.gif
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3-4. Your call.
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post Dec 10 2008, 09:56 PM

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This is what my training partner accomplished after 2.5 months of HVT:-

Deadlifted 225lbss12 times

Deadlifted 345 lbs on his first 1RM attempt :-





HVT makes you strong too. =P

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post Dec 10 2008, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Dec 10 2008, 09:59 PM)
Is that SLDL?

Can't really see his lower back, is he curling? sad.gif
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He gets it up with his own unique style of deadlifting. No joint pain, no lower back pain, smooth ascent. So called strength trainees usually diss HVT saying it's not an effective strength program. I guarantee you he will hit close to 400lbs pretty quick. I get it up my way too:-




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post Dec 10 2008, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Dec 10 2008, 10:28 PM)
darklight, what's the function of that waist strap thing you wear for your exercises? i've seen some people in my gym using it too.
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It's a weightlifting belt around my waist. I didn't use it initially but when my poundages started climbing up in the squat and deadlift, I needed it for support. I don't want my waist to stick out so much.

QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Dec 10 2008, 10:28 PM)
i think your partner's form could've been better, but i'm not one to talk lol. i can only do 160lbs x 5 ahhaha, compared with his 225lbs T.T

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Not really, that's the weird thing. One of the old strongman legends, I'm trying to google up his name; had that same unique deadlift form and he never had lower back or postural problems. And he was one of the first few in the world to deadlift close to 800-900 pounds. I tried to make my gym partner do it with so called "proper form" but he experienced pain. Some people are built differently in body structure. It seems to suit him, why not?

SLDL = stiff legged deadlift, more for hammies. I don't really recommend it. There are better bb'ing alternatives such as the leg curl.


Added on December 10, 2008, 10:50 pm
QUOTE(mofonyx @ Dec 10 2008, 10:42 PM)
Your way is what I'm accustomed to seeing as immaculate form.

I don't see how that translates to what your trainee has. You must understand that I respect your experience and strength, but I have concerns about his form.

I've been injured before because of poor form and I do not wish that on anyone ever.
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You're right. But see above post. I already replied to wallpaper's similar concerns. Well, people like my gym buddy's body structure is built very differently. These people are on in a million. Lemme google up that strongman fella's name who lifted in that similar way. I'm still having trouble recalling his name. He was a farmer, there's a pic of him in black and white deadlifting. Maybe you can help me. I tried googling deadlift strongman legends, etc. Still can't find it.

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post Dec 10 2008, 11:05 PM

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Bingo! Bob Peoples!!

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post Dec 10 2008, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Dec 10 2008, 11:05 PM)
Bingo! Bob Peoples!!

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To those who never saw the most recent post.


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QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Dec 10 2008, 11:07 PM)
thank you for the reply =)

while you're still online, may i ask a question or two about shoulder exercises? (its my first HVT shoulder day tomorrow biggrin.gif)

i've seen the video a few pages back on seated rear delt raises, and you mentioned something about the "sucking d***" position (what a name..). i recall seeing an exercise somewhere about that position, except that instead of lifting the dumbbell like a reverse bench press, it says to lift the dumbbell as if i was doing a reverse chest flyes. i plan on doing that tomorrow for rear delts, but i'm not sure if it even really works the rear delts or not.

as for the side lateral raises... i plan to execute it like this, that form looks better than the others i found at BB.com...

ok, i just did a search on BB.com and there is indeed such a thing as a reverse flyes ...  except that it's not done on a sucking d*** position.  laugh.gif
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I do those also. I do all three for variety. I alternate them every shoulder workout. =)



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post Dec 10 2008, 11:27 PM

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Shoulders 10th December 2008
Workout time: 45 mins with 2 partners

Smith machine shoulder presses
Warm up
115 lbs x 12
115 lbs x 12

Work sets
205lbs/90kgs x 10 shocking.gif icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
205lbs x 9 icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
185lbs x 10
155lbs x 12

Dumbell shoulder presses
50lbs x 14
50lbs x 12
50lbs x 11
50lbs x 10

Cable lateral raises
30lbs x 12
20lbs x 12
20lbs x 10
20lbs x 11

Cable rear delt pulls
30lbs x 12
30lbs x 12
30lbs x 12
30lbs x 10


Added on December 10, 2008, 11:29 pm
QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Dec 10 2008, 11:26 PM)
LYN gave me constant page load errors seconds before this post o_O

thanks man, u're like my sifu lol  thumbup.gif

bob's deadlift looks painful. 719 pounds!!  shocking.gif
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Np. Like I said, very very very few people in the world can pull those deadlifts like Bob Peoples. Heck if you and me tried that style we'd end up in the orthopaedics ward.

Apparently that style suits my friend.

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QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Dec 10 2008, 11:29 PM)
bodyweight presses? congrats! =) and thanks for the link too =)
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Heh... I'm 86kg. Those Smith presses were 90kg. More than bodyweight. I'm gonna try 95kg next workout or maybe i should start with db's first instead to avoid a plateau. I don't want to lose the momentum.
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I dunno man. My right shoulder had a bit of a problem ever since i started the flat barbell bench press. I've always considered it an ego exercise and I still will. But then it's fun to do it once in a while. But it feels better now. Maybe cos I laid of weighted dips for a while.
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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Dec 11 2008, 12:44 AM)
Okay, this was what I was trying to get



His upper back is curled which is apparently much harder than a straightened back, but his lower back is straight, which would be very important to prevent any injury or damage.

I don't think this was going on in that video you posted. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
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You didn't read the last few posts or see the pics of Bob Peoples didn't you? He is built differently from you, me, that guy in the vid and almost everyone else on LYN. He is able to deadlift that way differently from you, me, that guy in the vid and almost everyone else on LYN without any risk of injury. Lol.
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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Dec 11 2008, 01:35 AM)
I read what you had to say, but isn't Bob Peoples' DL same as this guy's?

It's the upper back that's curling rather than the lower back. Apparently (reading from yootoob comments), Konstantinovs adopted the curled upper back to add weight to the bar because he couldn't do a straight back and up the weight anymore.

However, it should be noted that the lower back wasn't curled.

Couldn't see the entire part of Bob Peoples' lift, but it seems from the picture that only his upper back is curled and his lower back is straight.
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Ok, time to edit. I was in a bad mood earlier. Look, I never said my friend's form is perfect. I never said it is the correct way to deadlift. But he is built differently. Differently from you, me and 99% of the people on this board. Get that into your head first, this is important. Which is why people like you and me HAVE to use the accepted deadlifting methods.

We cannot follow his deadlift style, nor can we follow Constantine's or Bob's and no, both of these individuals mentioned deadlift differently, i'm too lazy to explain or take a pic of Bob's backside when he's deadlifting.



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QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Dec 11 2008, 11:11 AM)
Your right shoulder had problems, but yet you're still able to lift oturageous weights  sweat.gif  don't overwork yourself man lol.
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Nah, I'm not overtraining. I just think the traditional flat barbell bench isn't suited for me. =P
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QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Dec 11 2008, 01:25 PM)
oh man, shoulder press more than bodyweight? that is freaking scary...i can barely press 30kg i guess..

darky, i have weak shoulders, and hence ditch isolation exercise such as lateral raise etc. i feel like the joints are cracking when i`m doing isolation exercise. Hence, i change my shoulder exercise to upright row and db shoulder press. what do u recommend?

thanks

i hope that i can hit 400lbs too hahaha..but i seldom do deadlift but i have tried that day and i managed to deadlift for 115kg......super happy with it...but only managed for 2 reps, almost black out trying for the 3rd rep....HVT HVT!! rclxms.gif
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It took a while but it was a pretty feel good accomplishment.

Your "joints are creaking" during isolation movements probably because you are using way too much weight. Do you know I use only the 25's or 30's for dumbell lateral raises? My heaviest was the 40's. You're not meant to go heavy on iso's and seriously, ditching lateral raises is the worst mistake you can do. It directly adds width to you shoulders. Most shoulder pressing movements hit mostly the medial, anterior and maybe posterior head but not much of the lateral delts. Lateral raises do that.

What do i recommend? Scroll back a few pages for my shoulder workout.

QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Dec 11 2008, 01:25 PM)
i hope that i can hit 400lbs too hahaha..but i seldom do deadlift but i have tried that day and i managed to deadlift for 115kg......super happy with it...but only managed for 2 reps, almost black out trying for the 3rd rep....HVT HVT!! rclxms.gif
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115kg is good. Keep doing it every 2 weeks and you'll catch up.
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Legs 11th December 2008
Workout time: 55mins with 2 partners

Squats
Warm up
115lbs x 12
115lbs x 12

Work sets
345lbs x 3
295lbs x 8
225lbs x 10
225lbs x 10

Leg curls
6 plates x 12
6 plates x 12
5 plates x 12
4 plates x 14

Leg extensions
275lbs x 12
Full stack x 10
275lbs x 12
260lbs x 12

One legged standing dumbell calf raise
BW + 50lbs x 15 x 4
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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Dec 11 2008, 11:05 PM)
I notice that you don't have weight acclimatization to your workouts..

e.g. 110kg squat

20kg x 5
60kg x 5
72.5kg x 5
85kg x 3
97.5kg x 1
110kg x 5

Isn't it quite a shock to the system if you go from 115lbs warmup to more than double immediately for work sets? Would weight acclimatization be preferred?
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Heh..... "instinctive training". I'm not fussy about warm ups. It depends on my moods.
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QUOTE(musclemass @ Dec 12 2008, 02:46 PM)
Amen
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Heh... yeap. You too eh? The potential injuries just aren't worth it going too heavy.
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Chest 15th December 2008
Time taken: 50 mins with 2 partners

Flat barbell bench press

Warm up
115lbs x 12
135lbs x 10

Work sets
275lbs x 5
255lbs x 3 drop set to 235lbs x 3 drop set to 185lbs x 3
225lbs x 5 drop set to 200lbs x 3 drop set to 185lbs x 3
185lbs x 8

High incline dumbell bench press
50lbs x 14
50lbs x 12
50lbs x 10
40lbs x 15

Machine chest press
225lbs x 12
210lbs x 12
195lbs x 10
180lbs x 10

Cable crossovers
80lbs x 10
60lbs x 12
50lbs x 12
50lbs x 12


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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Dec 16 2008, 10:27 AM)
Wanna ask about abs exercise ... After reading through the journals I found that most of the bbers here don't have a day specially for abs alone ... While I arrange a day every week for chest workout as shown :

Captain's chair
Reverse Crunch
Crunches
Sit Up
Bicycle  crunch

All of them 5 x 10 ... Should I start adjusting my workout sleep.gif ?
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I do them on arms' day. 3 exercises should be enough around 3-4 x 15-20.

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