Unfortunately unlike other psn games, you cannot share socom:confrontations. I mean, yes, you can share the copy between 5 other people, but no one can play within 24 hours of the last person who logged in with it (with exception of the master account who bought it), which basically renders sharing games like socom:confrontations and warhawk useless (because they use the same activation crap unfortunately). So far those are the only two games I've come across that do this (I read the disclaimers about activations before even considering a purchase). It's kind of sad but what to do
You aren't missing out on much though because that game is hard to connect to and even with the recent update on Jan 13th it's still buggy and laggy as hell hehe but it's a damn kickass game when it works right.

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Added on January 21, 2009, 6:34 pmTechnically yes, if it is games from the psn store (downloaded games). You could probably find a cheaper ps3, which model is it and what region?

Do not believe anyone who tells you otherwise about running ps3 games (without the bluray disc) on the ps3 (they are most likely referring to downloaded games - so technically they aren't lying, but they aren't telling the full truth either). Although right now there is a usbadvance loader for ps3 to run ps2 backups from the ps3 hdd (currently only working for Japanese 60gig ps3).

PS - do not update to 2.60 firmware yet, wait at least 2 weeks or so (this should be the usual practice between any new firmware update) to see whether it bricks anyones ps3 first. I'm convinced they got this firmware up quickly since the 2.53 update bricked quite a few 60gig and other model ps3's (reminiscent of the botched 2.4x firmware update).

This post has been edited by Salamander: Jan 21 2009, 06:43 PM

I think this guy who told me ( the salesman ) says that one guy from KL says that his Ps3 has been Modified or he crack by himself to play PS3 game (bluray isos i think) from harddisk and not the PSN download one . and he is proud of it .

the model im not sure lah . but its a 80 gb version . i did ask him but he gave me a sony catalog book . a bit dumb i think . i ask him the region but he keep saying the his friend can play Ps3 game isos from harddisk thats why im a bit curious

oh ok rite now the pirate thingy about ps3 is that it can play ps2 isos lah ni ya

man im still undecided . cause only 1 joystick and 1 LBP game . i wonder if this game kickass or else .

All I can say is, no matter how convincing the guy sounds about this "modification", do not believe him. Sales people are notorious for this, they will dangle the carrot in front of you and go that extra length to hook you in. They are only concerned with making sales. Of course I cannot convince you otherwise. There are no isoloaders for ps3. Perhaps on the debug versions yes but definitely not out there for any retail versions yet. There is alot that needs to be considered to run a ps3 bluray iso, namely firmware hacks (although not always necessary). Bluray backups are possible, but running them off hd is another thing (the bd backup method no longer works in newer firmwares if I am not mistaken as well). It sounds dodgy to me, especially when he says "his friend". I'm curious, is this a shop from Sungai Wang by any chance?

actually this guy buys this ps3 from techasia and he tell this salesman that he has modified his ps3 to play the bluray isos .which i doubt lah his statement but i see bluray isos roaming the internet i dunno if they have succeed on playing the isos like the PSP method .. ya i read that this is impossible prolly im wrong cause i have been too long not following the ps3 "developments on pirates" ..

got a question thou . how big is the game if install in the PS3 harddisk ? .

Depends which game you are talking about. For example a game like Socom:confrontations is about a 2gig+ download, and installed prolly somewhere between 2-4, I can't remember I will have to check my ps3. Were you referring to psn store downloaded games?

PS - yes, there are bd iso's floating around and also .pkg files, but this is only for that 1 rainy day that if by any chance an isoloader/custom firmware comes out.

This post has been edited by Salamander: Jan 21 2009, 07:55 PM

how about metal gear solid 4 ? . im refering to the PS3 game only

btw what version of ps3 u using ? 80 gb / 60 gb / 40 gb ?

Well, 1 bluray is like 45gigs, however the data on them is actually probably about the size of a single or dual layered dvd. I currently have the 40gig, but I'll be getting an 80 in a few months.

wow great discussion here...

I feel like commenting on the above discussion but that would create more issue on this particular matter. I would rather rest my case haha. Anyways, seriously none of you guys in sabah play MGO? I was playing with this random guy since it was automatching , his username is redvampire, and he said he is from Tuaran. Iam not really sure whether he is telling the truth but he wasnt lagging in my room, probably he is but definitely he is not from lowyat.

wanna play MGO but how a

Oh and just to add on about the PS3 modding, rhoyo, the PS3 has 8 layers of intensive security systems and even if a team of crackers would want to mod the PS3 to be running game isos, then it is estimated that it would take them roughly 6 to 8 years. So if that happens, the PS3 would be cracked somewhere in 2012 since it is released widely in 2006, so by then PS3 wouldnt be too hot anymore.

The next generation of consoles would surf up by then since game consoles such as the XBOX360's and PS3's lifespan is estimated somewhere between 6 to 8 years too. The XBOX1 died after just 5 years of operation, while the PS2 still lives on to this very day surviving on PS exclusive titles like GOW, FF, Monster Hunter and so on as well as third party games.

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Added on January 21, 2009, 8:30 pm@skarabels, do you have the game? Then its easy, just follow these steps.

1. Download the latest firmware for the PS3 which is the 2.60, came out today.

2. Boot up Metal Gear Solid 4 and head to Metal Gear Online in the title menu.

3. Download the latest MGO client which is the 1.21 version.

4. Make a konami id in game and youre good to go.

This post has been edited by Kernkraft400: Jan 21 2009, 08:30 PM

I play mgo :> I also play cod4, resistance2 and socom:confrontations hehe. I sometimes wonder how all these games do their matching. I wish they would first do level checks and then after that check everyones ping time (and match those with lowest ping times between each other), and choose the person with the highest upload bandwidth to host. I just hate getting put into a laggy host when I do automatching hehe, not to mention the balancing of levels between teams seem unbalanced (for instance in games like cod4 - are they balancing via averages or totals in terms of player levels?). I was playing on the normal servers in mgo with no restrictions but it was filled with beginners. However when I went into one of the beginner places it was full of good players lol, so backwards. Hmm, the usual pingtimes I get with people from sabah are around 40ms and with the west side I get around 70-80ms but you definitely won't feel any lag when playing with people from either side. Today I was getting horrific speed from singapore side though, don't know if that has anything to do with streamyx maintenance that is supposed to be over by the 23rd.

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Added on January 21, 2009, 8:35 pmLol. The worse part of that is making konami id. I hate that part so much.Had to do the same thing for my friends pes2k9. I tried signing up for a japan one, but it just didn't like my game id, so I stuck with a singapore one instead.

This post has been edited by Salamander: Jan 21 2009, 08:36 PM

oh like that kah kern thanks for the info . well im not really want to play pirates on the ps3 . it is just that im curious thats all ..

ok now i want to ask u guys since my budget for 1 elusive game for the ps3 . should i go for Resistance 2 or Metal Gear Solid 4 ( this one got MGO inside rite damn im noob ) . which is the best of the best . since Little big planet is free one then i want to buy another 24 hours FPS game for the PS3 ..

yo! rhoyo,
i still waiting for ur psn id ni

@RHOYO, GO GRAB MGS4

Resistance 2 not that hot la

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Added on January 21, 2009, 8:55 pm@Salamander, where do u live man? Whats your psn id? Add me : KernkraftX360.

This post has been edited by Kernkraft400: Jan 21 2009, 08:55 PM

Here are my thoughts:
MGS4
If you are an mgs fan then definitely mgs4. The singleplayer is all pretty and stuff, I don't mind the long cutscenes either. The multiplayer is quite nice too, quite a few modes but you only get to make one char, after that you have to purchase another character slot (which sucks). There are also ingame freebie extras like music and downloads for extra octo camouflage. Also, when you create your character you can't change his looks etc until after 1 week. If you want female chars I think you will have to purchase the gene upgrade. Something like that anyway. I've not really had problems with connecting to multiplayer games in mgo, but I did have issues hosting. I think that this was due to the fact that I was NAT3 at the time. I do have a theory though - I don't think mgo actually checks the traffic to see whether you are connectable or not to host, it just checks the NAT config status of your ps3 (it doesn't check to see if it actually works), because I was able to host other games fine and also send/receive voice communication without problems (I was NAT3 with ip fragmentation, although I did have the ports forwarded). I did fix the problem however by putting myself as NAT2 which I shouldn't have had to. In any case, this was the only game that had issues for creating/hosting games. So if you plan on hosting, this may be an issue if you are not NAT2.
Resistance2
Resistance 2 singleplayer leaves alot to be desired, but that is just my opinion. I wouldn't call Resistance 2 graphically intense - to me some textures were just downright disappointing (yeah, and what's up with all the 95'ish looking bodyparts when you blow something up, not to mention the silly looking blood splatter). Graphical stuff and stupid ai aside, I did get one other bug which happened after a multiplayer offline match ended, and the screen pops up with the main character in the background holding no gun heh (and then my ps3 freezes). Now for multiplayer aspects like coop and multiplayer [skirmish/deathmatch/team deathmatch], I can say that it was thoroughly enjoyable. Sometimes it is hard to actually get connected, but in most cases you shouldn't have a problem. Coop is awesome, I rarely meet players who don't watch your back, and spec ops and medics do what they are supposed to do, although there is always people who love to stand in front of your gun lol. With all the stuff that happens around you though it's hard to see what is going on, just shoot whenever your reticule turns red. I like levelling up and unlocking stuff when you play coop. I think resistance2 really shines in multiplayer rather than single player.

So hmm, which to choose? I'm torn on this one, but I'm just going to shoot myself in the foot and say Resistance 2 even though I really love mgs4.

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Added on January 21, 2009, 9:04 pmI'm in luyang :> and I shall add you right now hehe, brb

This post has been edited by Salamander: Jan 21 2009, 09:06 PM

Okay would love to play with you sometimes. We should have a gathering or something

Yes, let's make a gathering. Let's gather at the main forum to discuss since not everyone has PS3

Hey kernkraft400, have you ever had a problem with Wipeout HD hanging/freezing by any chance? It happens to me sometimes when I join a game, right after I select my ship. I do not know whether this is related to poor server connections, but then I have to reboot my ps3. The only thing I can think of why this happens is when I have poor connections to the gameservers and it is timing out, but I have no idea why it would freeze.

thanks bro