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post Mar 24 2008, 01:36 PM, updated 15y ago

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Hi there,

UPDATES :
- My MSN Account is should be disabled now. *Microsoft! I'm waiting for you!*
- My LYN account is not affected, so chill guys and gals. It's still me


I'm sure those of you who have me on MSN might have already received odd requests - DO NOT ENTERTAIN THEM!

As seen in the notice , my MSN (Windows Live Messenger la) uses my really really really old, unused and unmaintained E-mail address - briancyc@hotmail.com was compromised.

Never thought that anyone would take the trouble to breach it. yes, it's breached but that's not the point of this thread.

the conman
Claims that
a) i need money (which I'm NOT in any need) *applies to those who are already on my MSN contact*
b) i sell PayPal funds (which I am not either) *applies to those who are trading but does not know me or spoken to me before via MSN*

And so far he's using the following accounts
- WONG SOO WEI - 1141 7883 6111
http://www.tp-racing.com/order.htm

- FOO YONG YOKE - 1121 1141 3238 (which so happened to be used in this trade dispute

- FOO JET SIONG - 1123 9902 8506
http://www.google.com.my/search?client=fir...G=Google+Search
http://www.shutterasia.com/forum/archive/i...php/t-3858.html
http://carigold.com/portal/modules.php?nam...7&op=nextnewest
http://www.carigold.com/portal/forums/show...?t=21329&page=3

modus operandi
- this conman is an active LYN participant, and seems to know the Trade Zone well.
- he manipulates reputation, trust and various "psychological" tricks to get the deal, or what he wants.

For traders at LYN forum
1. approach people by finding those who are
a). wanting to buy items
b). leaves an MSN contact, that's his only approach. and possibly handphone number.


2. identifies himself as "goldfries" (yes, ME) and does everything via MSN.

3. gets the buyer to BANK IN to whatever X account. from my observation of past cases, this one is same - just that he uses trust and reputation.

4. Now after the transaction is done, what i suspect is that he would inform the recipient that HE has banked in the $$$ and he'll get his goods. so we end up with
a). a person will less $$$
b). a person who manage to sell his stuff
c). a person who's just a scapegoat but has nothing to do with the matter altogether
d). a person that got away with the goods



For those are are not trading but already know me from and on my MSN contact list
1. he will claim that I need money
2. then he'll probably say I couldn't access maybank2u so pump the $$$ to someone else' account.


how to verify it is "goldfries"
1. My surname is CHONG
2. My handphone number starts with 013 and ends with 97
3. I will always be on LYN and WILL be able to verify via LYN. (don't worry, account not compromised here. we have control of these accounts. smile.gif )
4. Use the contact form at http://www.goldfries.com if you need, that one guarantee to reach me and not some scammer replying you. (and I have full control of it too)


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OTHER THREAD FOR REFERENCE.

Evading Imposters, a quick guide

This post has been edited by goldfries: Mar 24 2008, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 24 2008, 01:36 PM)

3. I will always be on LYN and WILL be able to verify via LYN. (don't worry, account not compromised here. we have control of these accounts. smile.gif )

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Ah Wang LYN nick compromised already wat
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post Mar 24 2008, 01:44 PM

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that's him la but it's restored. no issues. smile.gif
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post Mar 24 2008, 02:22 PM

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I also kena.... rclxub.gif Luckily i notice not like u.... bcoz he scold me at msn! whistling.gif

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(12:02 PM) Brian: hi
(12:02 PM)  |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: find me?
(12:02 PM) Brian: yes
(12:02 PM) Brian: its me goldfries
(12:02 PM)  |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: i noe
(12:02 PM) Brian: i am trading egold with her now..
(12:03 PM) Brian: can u get her to send me first
(12:03 PM) Brian: because she ask me to contact u
(12:03 PM)  |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: u is ah wang??
(12:03 PM) Brian: my friend ah wang
(12:03 PM) Brian: i just helping him only
(12:03 PM)  |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: u oso noe the rules la
(12:03 PM)  |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: lolx
(12:03 PM) Brian: yala..
(12:03 PM) Brian: but he say after receive he sure pay ma
(12:04 PM)  |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: =.="
(12:04 PM) Brian: ok nevermind
(12:04 PM) Brian: since u dont trust me
(12:04 PM) Brian: good luck

(12:06 PM) Brian has left the conversation.

(12:07 PM) Brian just sent you a nudge.
(12:07 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: yes?
(12:07 PM) Brian: how?
(12:07 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: i be middle man ok?
(12:08 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: money go to me 1st..... after he send the money... i will paid 2 the seller
(12:08 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: is tat ok?
(12:08 PM) Brian: no need to be so complicated
(12:08 PM) Brian: thanks for ur "help"
(12:08 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: hw much for egold?
(12:08 PM) Brian: 2925
(12:09 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: 2925 USD ???
(12:09 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: bcum RM ???
(12:09 PM) Brian: myr
(12:09 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: oo
(12:09 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: USD is hw much?
(12:09 PM) Brian: 900
(12:09 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: 700?
(12:09 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: oo
(12:09 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: wait wait
(12:11 PM) Brian just sent you a nudge.
(12:12 PM) Brian: ...
(12:12 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: im nuts
(12:12 PM) Brian: i hate this kind of seller in lyn
(12:12 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: lolx
(12:12 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: he is sell things la
(12:12 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: for sure get money 1st la
(12:13 PM) Brian: i dont trust him
(12:13 PM) Brian: how to pay
(12:13 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: eh
(12:13 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: u trust me?
(12:13 PM) Brian: cya
(12:13 PM) Brian: bb
(12:13 PM) *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏: okies


Also use Ah Wang ID to PM me.... Message i still saved it. whistling.gif

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post Mar 24 2008, 02:45 PM

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LOL. so un-ME. smile.gif

those who know me sure can detect wan la. find your usual topic with me is enough.

another way to verify - ASK QUESTIONS! smile.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 24 2008, 02:45 PM)
LOL. so un-ME. smile.gif

those who know me sure can detect wan la. find your usual topic with me is enough.

another way to verify - ASK QUESTIONS! smile.gif
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Ofcause..... Usually u said " Sell things must get money first..... if you don't trust then just don't buy from me " ...... I noticed it is not YOU!

GOLDFRIES's SLOGAN! whistling.gif

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post Mar 24 2008, 02:52 PM

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wah i didn't know i got trademark already.

anyway just practise some wisdom la but the thing is normally people think MSN straight is confirm the person cos no one else is using the account sad.gif that's the problem.

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this kind of guy needs a free whack session..

call lowyatians
kumpul at mamak stall .preferably klang ( police doesnt seem to get involved in large gatherings.
tie that fella in a pole). take turns after everybody already pumped with roti canai energy..

transfer of energy
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post Mar 24 2008, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 24 2008, 02:45 PM)
LOL. so un-ME. smile.gif

those who know me sure can detect wan la. find your usual topic with me is enough.

another way to verify - ASK QUESTIONS! smile.gif
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No la..dont..just tie thim to the poll and unzipped his trousers/pants/jeans and let his small birdie out then take/buy whole lot of red-ants and pour it to his birdie.Sure kaw kaw..the rest take group photo.!!!!Hahahahah...
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QUOTE(Collector @ Mar 24 2008, 03:07 PM)
No la..dont..just tie thim to the poll and unzipped his trousers/pants/jeans and let his small birdie out then take/buy whole lot of red-ants and pour it to his birdie.Sure kaw kaw..the rest take group photo.!!!!Hahahahah...
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sounds kinky...i'm sure it feels nice and hot wub.gif
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post Mar 24 2008, 03:09 PM

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eh guys. thanks for the entertainment but it's not a discussion about punishment method or after-work activities la. smile.gif
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QUOTE(jtcs87 @ Mar 24 2008, 02:22 PM)
I also kena....  rclxub.gif  Luckily i notice not like u.... bcoz he scold me at msn!  whistling.gif
Also use Ah Wang ID to PM me.... Message i still saved it.  whistling.gif
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I've notice something about the conversation.
1) He sure is desperate. (goldfries desperate? nonsense)
2) Impatient. (i like goldfries character, he is sure is patient)
3) English dude English. (i've never talk to goldfries this kind shortform language)
4) He is not a pro-con man. (Never done enough research or his homework)
5) Brian never approach with his first move like saying "(12:02 PM) Brian: its me goldfries "
6) Find it awkward. shocking.gif
7) That Con-man got played by the conversation. (bravo to *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏)
8) goldfries is humble.
9) goldfries sarcasm? ((12:08 PM) Brian: thanks for ur "help") <--- Your "welcome".
10) Conclusion. He is not fit for con-man! Never did his proper homework before tricking people. tongue.gif


*Cheers mate, im sorry if i offended anyone. especially Goldfries. Just wanted to tell the community that this is how far i know Goldfries. You have my support!*
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omg scammers...

luckily i dont WTB post. i click on WTS oni lol!


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3/23/2008  11:17:50 PM  briancyc@hotmail.com  Danny  danny
3/23/2008  11:17:54 PM  briancyc@hotmail.com  Danny  can u borrow me some cash
3/23/2008  11:18:04 PM  Danny  briancyc@hotmail.com  ????????
3/23/2008  11:18:17 PM  briancyc@hotmail.com  Danny  i want to pay my friend
3/23/2008  11:18:54 PM  Danny  briancyc@hotmail.com  do i know u?
3/23/2008  11:19:06 PM  briancyc@hotmail.com  Danny  goldfries
3/23/2008  11:19:56 PM  Danny  briancyc@hotmail.com  u r from?
3/23/2008  11:22:49 PM  Danny  Brian (LYN Admin)  how much do u want?
3/23/2008  11:22:58 PM  Brian (LYN Admin)  Danny  1600
3/23/2008  11:23:09 PM  Danny  Brian (LYN Admin)  gosh so much
3/23/2008  11:23:17 PM  Brian (LYN Admin)  Danny  hw much u can borrow?
3/23/2008  11:23:58 PM  Danny  Brian (LYN Admin)  to be honest i dun even know u personally. and i'm not even sure u r who u r now
I knew goldfries msn must have been hacked. Just dont have the time to play along with the scammer.
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wow. gee, thanks guys! never realize you guys noted my patterns, which is something no one can imitate.
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QUOTE(Lexitachi @ Mar 24 2008, 03:14 PM)
I've notice something about the conversation.
1) He sure is desperate. (goldfries desperate? nonsense)
2) Impatient. (i like goldfries character, he is sure is patient)
3) English dude English. (i've never talk to goldfries this kind shortform language)
4) He is not a pro-con man. (Never done enough research or his homework)
5) Brian never approach with his first move like saying "(12:02 PM) Brian: its me goldfries "
6) Find it awkward.  shocking.gif
7) That Con-man got played by the conversation. (bravo to *one |3uzzT@rd ๏̯͡๏)
8) goldfries is humble.
9) goldfries sarcasm? ((12:08 PM) Brian: thanks for ur "help") <--- Your "welcome".
10) Conclusion. He is not fit for con-man! Never did his proper homework before tricking people.  tongue.gif
*Cheers mate, im sorry if i offended anyone. especially Goldfries. Just wanted to tell the community that this is how far i know Goldfries. You have my support!*
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where i gt play with him???? rclxub.gif when he said "its me goldfries".... then i noticed already! thumbup.gif
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I noticed the pattern too. He asked me for RM 850 and I told him I don't have so much. I know it wasn't Brian because his English sucks.

Anyhow, managed to call Brian and woke him up and told him about this. blush.gif I put a notice on my MSN messenger asked everyone not to bank in money to Brian, because his account got hacked. He sent me a message, "Hey, don't try to be a hero here." Later on I said, "I am not and we are not dumb OK?" He replied, "take that off." I replied, "hahahaha I won't." Then, he threatened me, "OK, your account next, don't try to challenge me." cry.gif
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Mar 24 2008, 04:02 PM)
I noticed the pattern too. He asked me for RM 850 and I told him I don't have so much. I know it wasn't Brian because his English sucks.

Anyhow, managed to call Brian and woke him up and told him about this. blush.gif I put a notice on my MSN messenger asked everyone not to bank in money to Brian, because his account got hacked. He sent me a message, "Hey, don't try to be a hero here."  Later on I said, "I am not and we are not dumb OK?" He replied, "take that off." I replied, "hahahaha I won't." Then, he threatened me, "OK, your account next, don't try to challenge me." cry.gif
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how they hack our account? how to prevent it? flex.gif
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I think all MODs and TE were asked to lend him money... sweat.gif
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I'm not trying to offend anyone here.. but what you guyz saying here is providing more information for THE scammer to be a better scammer.
That's what i feel la.. haha
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QUOTE(jtcs87 @ Mar 24 2008, 04:00 PM)
where i gt play with him????  rclxub.gif  when he said "its me goldfries".... then i noticed already!  thumbup.gif
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Well you outsmart him at first. Praise for you then smile.gif
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QUOTE(Nimzai @ Mar 24 2008, 04:09 PM)
I'm not trying to offend anyone here.. but what you guyz saying here is providing more information for THE scammer to be a better scammer.
That's what i feel la.. haha
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i did thought of that but i think it's fine la, cos when people highlight here - readers will take more care and understand his failings.

it's all about understanding criminal minds.

he'll probably be reading this too. he'll probably try to imitate. LOL. if he manage to do so, then kudos to him.

it's now down to whether the approached people practise wisdom.

good luck trying.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 24 2008, 04:15 PM)
i did thought of that but i think it's fine la, cos when people highlight here - readers will take more care and understand his failings.

it's all about understanding criminal minds.

he'll probably be reading this too. he'll probably try to imitate. LOL. if he manage to do so, then kudos to him.

it's now down to whether the approached people practise wisdom.

good luck trying.
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QUOTE(jtcs87 @ Mar 24 2008, 02:22 PM)
I also kena....  rclxub.gif  Luckily i notice not like u.... bcoz he scold me at msn!  whistling.gif
Also use Ah Wang ID to PM me.... Message i still saved it.  whistling.gif
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wat is my last pm to u? can u post it here? not sure whether is sent by me or not


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I think it's hard to rectify bad English in a short while tongue.gif
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wow, the world is changing, anyone caught this scammer, pls call us, feel like wanna bash this feller after reading goldfries post
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certainly a very 'hot' news in forum now? biggrin.gif
we can see someone carrying this signature...

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ahh the fella NBTD la but for the first time i see him post constructively in Kopitiam.

such people who take joy in people's displeasure are asses, don't you think so?
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 24 2008, 05:20 PM)
ahh the fella NBTD la but for the first time i see him post constructively in Kopitiam.

such people who take joy in people's displeasure are asses, don't you think so?
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Adoi, Danny would call Brian up for sure. Scammers these days.. kena sepak kang, baru tau.. tongue.gif
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If That 'Brian' MSN me and ask me help , i sure help one, bcoz i trust Brian Haha. JK la...

This kind of idiot really has time to do such thing.... He needs to go back to sch to learn..start from k.garden maybe...
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QUOTE(Ah WanG @ Mar 24 2008, 04:59 PM)
wat is my last pm to u? can u post it here? not sure whether is sent by me or not
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Please read at below! thumbup.gif


First PM

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hi,i am trading with jcwy now for 700usd egold

can u ask her to send to me first?

thanks


Second PM
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who do u deal wif?

where is teh thread?

who is the seller n buyer?


Third PM
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it's based on trust from both parties

i can't advice u on that


may i know what do u mean by "But he said wan u transfer money to my acc 1st...." ?


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updated! now he uses another account. smile.gif 3 in total as of this post.

all with 'oo' on the name.
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Hello everyone,

I have been asked by the person using bryancyc@hotmail.com to transfer money from Maybank to his contact. The person indicated that his Maybank2u cant be use at the particular moment.

Luckily, I dont enough cash in my account.

Upon read this thread, I did asked the person whether did he asked me regarding the Maybank2u (asked on 6.30pm, today) and it seems he is still using the account for this purpose.


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just 2 simple questions :

first, anyone fallen into the traps?

second, how did the fella got access to goldfries and ah wang msn acc ?

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so many peoples had got conned by them and reported to police but they are still free out there. is the police doing nothing or wad ? i wanted to see how they ended up got arrested la dang.
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QUOTE(mindkiller6610 @ Mar 24 2008, 06:43 PM)
just 2 simple questions :

first, anyone fallen into the traps?

second, how did the fella got access to goldfries and ah wang msn acc ?
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I also interest to know who are get to the trap already? Why want hack goldfries & ah wang account? Straightly go for wkkay, RBR, se7en is better.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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donno la. i'm inclined to believe it's MSN side got way to get la. cos i don't use my WLM on any other machines except mine, which i don't download / install / browse like mad person.

anyway now is just to curb the damage or possible damage. smile.gif btw i've added more resources on 1st post for viewing.
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QUOTE(jtcs87 @ Mar 24 2008, 06:49 PM)
I also interest to know who are get to the trap already? Why want hack goldfries & ah wang account? Straightly go for wkkay, RBR, se7en is better....  icon_rolleyes.gif
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maybe both of them more active in that few selected threads?
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no la, the scammer got good taste.

my nick is GOLD and the other is WANG. doesn't it all make sense? smile.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 24 2008, 06:53 PM)
no la, the scammer got good taste.

my nick is GOLD and the other is WANG. doesn't it all make sense? smile.gif
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I received one too. He said he lost his ATM and wants to borrow some money. He was not using goldfries avatar so I suspect something, and therefore I told him to withdraw his money via bank counter instead of using ATM the next morning.

Scammer that never uses common sense = FAIL

It was 11+ at night if I'm not mistaken.

Oh ya by the way, he call himself Bryan while the MSN name and email address says Brian, lol.

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QUOTE(-Teddy- @ Mar 24 2008, 07:42 PM)
I received one too. He said he lost his ATM and wants to borrow some money. He was not using goldfries avatar so I suspect something, and therefore I told him to withdraw his money via bank counter instead of using ATM the next morning.

Scammer that never uses common sense = FAIL

It was 11+ at night if I'm not mistaken.

Oh ya by the way, he call himself Bryan while the MSN name and email address says Brian, lol.
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so how's everything goin on? may i know who kena scammed?? flex.gif anyway Goldfries, sorry if i offended u wif my PMs... hope those that kena scammed can solve the problem ASAP.. notworthy.gif
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Ah WanG just contacted me to paypal. Is that really him ?
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Ah WanG just contacted me to paypal. Is that really him ?
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I don't think so. Quickly pm Goldfries or wKkaY.
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i didnt bank into any account coz i read this thread haha. he just ask me for my msn though


Added on March 24, 2008, 11:29 pmhave forwarded the Pm to goldfries to see haha

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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Mar 24 2008, 09:31 PM)
wah scammers everywhere doh.gif i thought after election all gaji will naik a lot but why so many people still die die fight 4 easy lunch doh.gif
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The scammers are just doing "STUPID" action, they won't easily to get any free lunch~! mad.gif
They will catch by police soon~
If u kena by them, faster go to any "IBU DAERAH POLICE STATION" and make a report.
Remember bring evidence such as history of conversation thru MSN and print screen of the bank transaction.

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oh wow... the scammers getting better nowadays. ini macam pun boleh ka?

*rushes to change all acc passwords*

so goldfries, out of my own kepoh-ness, just how much money have been scammed by this guy?
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let's just say not small sum but mostly will be returned..........


Added on March 25, 2008, 1:27 amanyway the hacker returned my account to me not long ago.

for more details - stay tuned, I'll need a bit of time to write.

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you got back your MSN account ? ? ?
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I think its bes to figure out how he managed to hack into your account. From that i think it we can somewhat derive some solutions to prevent the scammer from catching more preys.

Think he wants to be the next legendary scammer.
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herm does that mean that the culprit has been caught?



give the address la. tmr will 'settle' for u rclxms.gif


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can clarify a few things first... i damn worry now bout MSN security

1. the scammer got hold of Goldfries MSN account? (if yes, he must have physical access to Goldfries pc? yes?)

2. the scammer got hold of more MSN ID? now 3 from what I've read. (how the hell he managed to do that??)
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QUOTE(blessedvillain @ Mar 25 2008, 03:43 AM)
can clarify a few things first... i damn worry now bout MSN security

1. the scammer got hold of Goldfries MSN account? (if yes, he must have physical access to Goldfries pc? yes?)

2. the scammer got hold of more MSN ID? now 3 from what I've read. (how the hell he managed to do that??)
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then we are no longer safe la
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QUOTE(blessedvillain @ Mar 25 2008, 03:43 AM)
can clarify a few things first... i damn worry now bout MSN security

1. the scammer got hold of Goldfries MSN account? (if yes, he must have physical access to Goldfries pc? yes?)

2. the scammer got hold of more MSN ID? now 3 from what I've read. (how the hell he managed to do that??)
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i think he hacked into his Msn kua.

i'm not sure how he did though.



goldfries wanna clarify? blush.gif


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i think he hacked into his Msn kua.

i'm not sure how he did though.
goldfries wanna clarify?  blush.gif
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If really through physical access to Goldfries' pc, then it must be someone around him....colleagues maybe?
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or maybe he him self is the culprit ?


Added on March 25, 2008, 3:54 amsharing doubts here

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QUOTE(markchan @ Mar 25 2008, 03:54 AM)
or maybe he him self is the culprit ?


Added on March 25, 2008, 3:54 amsharing doubts here
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If he is the culprit, it's better he don't even bother went thru all the way to warn people about it rite? Maybe he access lowyat from CC b4, or maybe different area. There is possibility his comp got keylogged too. So don't too fast come to a conclusion ma..
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QUOTE(markchan @ Mar 25 2008, 03:54 AM)
or maybe he him self is the culprit ?


Added on March 25, 2008, 3:54 amsharing doubts here
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well i highly doubt someone who has a name / reputation on LyN like goldfries would risk doing something stupid like that.

right? yawn.gif


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QUOTE(markchan @ Mar 25 2008, 03:54 AM)
or maybe he him self is the culprit ?


Added on March 25, 2008, 3:54 amsharing doubts here
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Thank you for sharing your doubts...
But goldfries doing that, doesn't even make the slightest sense in the world, i seriously ROFLMAO about this.

Hey, is there any good hackers around in LYN who can clarify how this was possible?
Maybe provide us with some tips to prevent this... thumbup.gif
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guys. I've spoken to the hacker (yes, he insisted to have a chat with me).

i can tell you this
1. he didn't GUESS
2. he didn't have physical access

all he did was use MSN's password retrieval process. I've discussed this with some people before. he was just lucky that my hotmail account was an abandoned one (you know, hotmail is like dormant if you don't login for a while) and I've not put much emphasis on any security setting even though my password could said to be impossible to guess and would take a really long time if you wish to try it one by one.

QUOTE(blessedvillain @ Mar 25 2008, 03:43 AM)
can clarify a few things first... i damn worry now bout MSN security

1. the scammer got hold of Goldfries MSN account? (if yes, he must have physical access to Goldfries pc? yes?)

2. the scammer got hold of more MSN ID? now 3 from what I've read. (how the hell he managed to do that??)
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not 3 MSN ID la. he uses that 3 bank accounts only. my MSN account, he didn't get physical access. he didn't keylog. he didn't brute attack.

and yes, the hacker admitted about the flaw in MSN system. that's all he could tell me.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 25 2008, 09:46 AM)
guys. I've spoken to the hacker (yes, he insisted to have a chat with me).

i can tell you this
1. he didn't GUESS
2. he didn't have physical access

all he did was use MSN's password retrieval process. I've discussed this with some people before. he was just lucky that my hotmail account was an abandoned one (you know, hotmail is like dormant if you don't login for a while) and I've not put much emphasis on any security setting even though my password could said to be impossible to guess and would take a really long time if you wish to try it one by one.
not 3 MSN ID la. he uses that 3 bank accounts only. my MSN account, he didn't get physical access. he didn't keylog. he didn't brute attack.

and yes, the hacker admitted about the flaw in MSN system. that's all he could tell me.
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this is interesting... you guys talk?!!!! rclxub.gif

what did you guys actually talk about? If I were u, i sure loose my cool and tell him what an arse he is. vmad.gif
IF he hack into your account and just trying to be funning and NOT CON ppl on money, I MIGHT let him go..... BUT he uses Goldfries account for unholy intention!!! this is just pure EVIL!!! NO FORGIVENESS from me... vmad.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 25 2008, 09:46 AM)
guys. I've spoken to the hacker (yes, he insisted to have a chat with me).

i can tell you this
1. he didn't GUESS
2. he didn't have physical access

all he did was use MSN's password retrieval process. I've discussed this with some people before. he was just lucky that my hotmail account was an abandoned one (you know, hotmail is like dormant if you don't login for a while) and I've not put much emphasis on any security setting even though my password could said to be impossible to guess and would take a really long time if you wish to try it one by one.
not 3 MSN ID la. he uses that 3 bank accounts only. my MSN account, he didn't get physical access. he didn't keylog. he didn't brute attack.

and yes, the hacker admitted about the flaw in MSN system. that's all he could tell me.
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he can't even fit to be called a hacker in the first place.
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oh ya... i forgot to ask..

Goldfries, what kind of action are you going to take against him?
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QUOTE(blessedvillain @ Mar 25 2008, 10:04 AM)
this is interesting... you guys talk?!!!!  rclxub.gif

what did you guys actually talk about? If I were u, i sure loose my cool and tell him what an arse he is.  vmad.gif
IF he hack into your account and just trying to be funning and NOT CON ppl on money, I MIGHT let him go..... BUT he uses Goldfries account for unholy intention!!! this is just pure EVIL!!! NO FORGIVENESS from me... vmad.gif
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he insisted. smile.gif

he was telling me want to teach me lesson. well my hotmail account i didn't pay much attention to it in the first place. smile.gif not something critical.

so erm. of course i told him la, you want to teach me lesson - can, i don't mind. but don't la until have to trouble others. smile.gif just leave a msg after hacking enough already la.

QUOTE(asiahost @ Mar 25 2008, 10:10 AM)
he can't even fit to be called a hacker in the first place.
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well the definition of hack is also that one that broke in to a place he's not suppose to have control of.

A person who breaks into, or attempts to break into, or use, a computer network or system without authorization, often at random, for personal gains

QUOTE(blessedvillain @ Mar 25 2008, 10:13 AM)
oh ya... i forgot to ask..

Goldfries, what kind of action are you going to take against him?
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smile.gif what action could be taken on him from my side?

i've already done my part (lecture him. tongue.gif) and that's all i can do.

i'm not angered. i'm just disgusted. that's all.

i wish people with such skill / knowledge could use it to help people, not do damage.

while I'm not the one taking action, people who were scammed surely would want something to be done. that's between them, the police and the bank.
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Goldfries, I respect your decision and whatever action you would and wouldn't take. Anyway, if there's really a need to report this to relevant authority, I have a contact at The headquarters of Jabatan Jenayah Komercial, Shah Alam.

I can direct you to the specific person in the department, as my gf used to seek help from him after she got scammed.

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Hey Goldfries,

I assume you know how the MSN vulnerability works and although I am curious as to how it works I rather would like to know how to prevent it from happening to the rest of us.

You mentioned that your password was secure...as is mine...but I'm still a bit sick to think that my MSN can be hacked at any time.

Since you are in the know, appreciate if you could impart some tips to prevent this from happening to us.
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The hacker shall never be left in vain...when it concerns money transaction it is not merely a lesson anymore but a fraud case, which absolutely constitutes a crime. Hacker, you know your childish action will be haunting you soon, its inevitable.
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QUOTE(Reuben @ Mar 25 2008, 11:34 AM)
Hey Goldfries,

I assume you know how the MSN vulnerability works and although I am curious as to how it works I rather would like to know how to prevent it from happening to the rest of us.

You mentioned that your password was secure...as is mine...but I'm still a bit sick to think that my MSN can be hacked at any time.

Since you are in the know, appreciate if you could impart some tips to prevent this from happening to us.
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the thing was this.

HOTMAIL tends to get "disabled" after a while of not using it.

i have no idea why it's like that, since i'm using that same HOTMAIL id for my WLM.

while passwords and such are not something so easy to figure out, i suspect the reason of the fella able to get through was because i didn't implement any other forms of security on that account, i didn't either because the email account wasn't something important to me. i just use it for my WLM and it doesn't affect my life even if it got disabled. smile.gif

12 months back, that same account doesn't have the profile like what it has today. smile.gif just never thought anyone would want to attempt a breach and abuse it.

so what you can do? implement whatever security you can on your MSN account. but according to the hacker, he claims he should be able to hack. that one i donno already la.
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not wanna spam, just wanna ask, compromis is hack?tat MSN i know la wat mean, mean ppl use ur account and ask u for money?

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people use my account and ask other people for money. smile.gif
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I don't say there is no way to hack MSN, but what he did is just a stupid and tedious kinda break in and NOT hack! A white hat can clarify in this. tongue.gif Real hacker won't guess but give a definite way that once hole is dig, he can acces to virtually any account with just user ID. Again, he's just a stupid "hacker wannabe".. That's all! ^__^v Anyone wanna try taking the "red pills?" tongue.gif

By the way goldfries, Why enforce the log out thing ya? Kinda ma fan la everytime have to key in user and pass. Is this a temp. measure?
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hack in the sense gain unrightful entry la. smile.gif in this case, hacking via "legal" means is better said as exploitation.

as to the enforce logout thing, it's to ensure better safety for all forummers.
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Looks like your case is been solved by teaching a lesson! whistling.gif Since you talk with that people, you got ask him why be so free to do this kind of works..... waste time & energy! rclxub.gif
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said is hobby wor. smile.gif oh well. more important lesson is towards traders.

for me, if it was getting people info / trade via LYN then i will use LYN as my first contact.
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let me kepoh2 for a while

i think he takut liao. seeing the words like "police" lar, "bukit aman" and "naked squats", he cepat2 cover his track by coming up with bullcrap like "teaching you a lesson" story.

bodoh punya scammer doh.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 25 2008, 02:25 PM)
said is hobby wor. smile.gif oh well. more important lesson is towards traders.

for me, if it was getting people info / trade via LYN then i will use LYN as my first contact.
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ooh i should for his help back when one of my friend's free hosting forum got hacked.
The hacker disabled all the admin access and even change the forum name to a very absurb name.
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This Log-Out Policy recently enforced, was it the means where Ah Wang's account was hacked? A forgot-to-log-out incident?

Curious.

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This Log-Out Policy recently enforced, was it the means where Ah Wang's account was hacked? A forgot-to-log-out incident?

Curious.

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MSN is hackable since the old version, donno why, but in my theory they well know the break thru microsoft database without detected by them (Microsoft Firewall or staff).

Stop using MSN using Yahoo! or Google
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bro, so you changed to goldfries@live.com?
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hmm this thread can consider useless since gold fries told every one about the "good side" of the hackers

so rest in peace and close la this thread.

i dont see the point having this thread anymore since gold mentioned everything ok already
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QUOTE(yongkailoon @ Mar 25 2008, 06:52 PM)
This is what wKkaY explained about the flaw last time and it has been tightened now.
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It's been fixed for more than 2 years now. Unless theres another workaround.
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0.o funnily, a bunch of LYN old timer mods/senior who did this to me before tongue.gif

exploited something in hotmail. aeons ago i cant remember much

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QUOTE(markchan @ Mar 25 2008, 11:33 PM)
hmm this thread can consider useless since gold fries told every one about the "good side" of the hackers

so rest in peace and close la this thread.

i dont see the point having this thread anymore since gold mentioned everything ok already
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what "good side" ah? smile.gif

a hacker is a hacker. hacker is NOT a good thing to do.

i'm letting this thread run for now, since it can continue to serve as a reminder / highlight.
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he not scare about the police word being mention la..

just tht it is useless to hold goldfries account ady ma.
malaysia really need to comeout with a better payment processor.
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Mar 27 2008, 06:10 AM)
0.o funnily, a bunch of LYN old timer mods/senior who did this to me before tongue.gif

exploited something in hotmail. aeons ago i cant remember much
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i remember that..... laugh.gif
everyone kena con you turned ghey ph34r.gif laugh.gif shows how damn old we are in this forum, eh? wink.gif
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there's always a lot of dummy server to escape...

i would bank in money to u, unfortunately, he never msg me.

do note its just showing my kind heart of donate 2 cents to person who hijacked ur msn, at least its a hard work after so many thing he done
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post Apr 6 2008, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 27 2008, 09:47 AM)
what "good side" ah? smile.gif

a hacker is a hacker. hacker is NOT a good thing to do.

i'm letting this thread run for now, since it can continue to serve as a reminder / highlight.
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hacker got 2 type, one is good one and one is bad one,

1) a good hacker we call white hat hacker which work with company like Microsoft or Big Software Company or such.
programmer is what we call them appropriately...

2) a bad hacker we call them the black hat hacker which work for fun, and for evil deeds.
smile.gif dont say all hacker are bad..



This post has been edited by m2n-e: Apr 6 2008, 01:03 AM
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post Apr 8 2008, 06:52 PM

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oh, so the conman is internet tough guy?
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What if my MSN login account isn't Hotmail?
WOuld it make it slightly more difficult to crack it? tongue.gif
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post Oct 29 2008, 10:14 PM

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my lyn account and gmail was hacked and used for cheating. unfortunately both of the accounts shared the same password. refer to this thread Complain Thread by the victim

It is not impossible to hack in lyn or gmail account afterall. It is not known when or how my accounts has been compromised. I urged that all traders in lyn change your passwords regularly to avoid the hassle which i am facing now.

The problem arise when the victim decides to take action againts me instead of the bank account holder (i assume it is the scammers bank account). It has caused me great inconvenience, mental stress & lost of reputation. I hoped that buyers should practice more caution when trading. It could all be avoided if the buyer is not greedy & impatient.
Study the information given before you decide to part with your money!


 

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