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xixo_12
post Mar 17 2008, 09:45 PM

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XS googling can help a lot.. they have a lot of crazy idea to beginner start create their own.. thumbup.gif
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post Mar 17 2008, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Mar 17 2008, 09:45 PM)
XS googling can help a lot.. they have a lot of crazy idea to beginner start create their own.. thumbup.gif
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ya, TS i recommend u go surf XS, there are lots of extremist creating own water block and cooling idea, some are great some are ....
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post Mar 18 2008, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Mar 17 2008, 09:32 PM)
first u need to care..

1.pump
2.tube.
3.coolant
4.reservoir
5.wb
6.rad

1. make sure u have the output flow enuff.. not too fast, n not too slow.. for me 1800l/H is good
2. make sure u use the thick one.. make sure no bend at all.
3. this depend on ur self.. coolant focusing on the anti-rust.. u must know. u deal with metal.. so think urself
4.this can be either bekas or aquarium itself  laugh.gif
5. u can create this.. but use ur logical n creative think
6. this is the important stuf. how u want to reduce the temp back?? this is the part.. if u not attach it.. for sure, it's nothing..better use stock hsf

edited: i'm use the mod WC stuff... flex.gif
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thanks for ur so detail explaining.. looking into it... n can u show ur mod WC? biggrin.gif


Added on March 18, 2008, 1:58 am
QUOTE(lichyetan @ Mar 17 2008, 09:33 PM)
Ok, here is the point:
Ur plan got some problem,
1st of all, if using a large fish pump, we assume that the heat energy absorb by water will dissipate from there, but u need the tank to be open air, which mean ur loop is prone to bacteria, i believe after using few months u will facing trouble with algaes and some unknown living organism inside the loop.
Secondly, if u plan to use a big water tank, u must own a pump that is strong enough to pump those water in and out and its able to operate under water, which means regular small pump wont provide sufficient enough head pressure, u will facing trouble finding high head pressure, low heat dump pumps, u will probably need external pump, idwaki class maybe, usually rm400+.
Besides of that, coolant will not cool enough to cool the proc, coolant is just act as a medium to absorb and transfer heat from water block to radiator, from radiator, the radiator fan dissipate the heat energy to surrounding air, actually pc water cooling is just acting like car cooling system, a basic kit u will need a pump, and radiator. Coolant also helps to prevent corrosion.

for more info:
kindly browse watercooling tips section or go to http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=75873
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thanks for ur replying... erm... ya..where is my NJstar.. hard to find u ..lolz mad.gif ...

ya... i think the pump shud b enuf to pump into the processor gua... my pump for the fish tank.. can pump up to 2 m.. fr down to top... if posible.. tmr i uploaded the photo... nid to find camera ya... erm, bout the algaes... i saw the reservoir oso got one hole at the top mar... it means it oso expose to the air... any comment bout it? hmm.gif


Added on March 18, 2008, 2:01 am
QUOTE(lichyetan @ Mar 17 2008, 09:46 PM)
ya, TS i recommend u go surf XS, there are lots of extremist creating own water block and cooling idea, some are great some are ....
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ok... hope i can join one of them... crazy idea ..lolz

This post has been edited by spirit of demon: Mar 18 2008, 02:01 AM
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post Mar 18 2008, 02:17 AM

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ok, actually 2m is very weak pump, after deducting restriction for the tubings and waterblock, basically not much headroom left, sommore i believe the tubings from the water tank to cpu will be quite long, which means high restrictive.

For the algae part, its not just limited to algae, u will notice strange things as well, its not recommend to expose ur water cooling loop to open air, else few months later u will know, the algae or some unknown living organism will stuck inside ur loop making the flow stucked. The hole at top of reservoir for ur information are sealed by a cap using o-ring, so the whole loop are air tight, that's y we need to open the cap when bleeding the loop. it is not exposed to air. The only way to get the heat out of the loop is using the radiator, if u want to built a DIY set, it is recommend to go car radiator shop to find a kancil radiator or other small radiator for ur project.

For the part for the pump, regular fish pump are not good enough as the heat dump by the pump is quite high, Nirox p2800 is the pump which i think is suitable for custom WC project, rest i dont think its suitable as heat wattage are too high.

I think u should make some changes to the plan, make a custom make reservoir with submerged fish pump by finding someone to tap the hole for u, find a cheap and nice radiator for local car radiator shop, and make a sealed loop. i think its for suitable way to get ur project done, but do keep in mind that the performance may not as good as those swiftech's or thermochill parts, but if done it properly, it may outperform the TT or CM kit.
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post Mar 18 2008, 03:37 AM

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QUOTE(spirit of demon @ Mar 17 2008, 09:22 PM)
may i know wat is bye bye tubes? sry i m noob here.. so some simple phrase oso nid to ask... pls explain ya.. thanks...


Added on March 17, 2008, 9:23 pm

may i know wat is the small small problem... can tell me more details..


Added on March 17, 2008, 9:24 pm

i prefer put in some red arowana than silver arowana... n prefer to put in blood parrot than gold fish.. juz like my fish tank... comedy... lolz rclxm9.gif


Added on March 17, 2008, 9:26 pm

temperature.. i think is not  the problem.. coz arowana prefer hotter water.. 28-32 celcius.. coolant is the problem.. toxiz ... man!!!!! vmad.gif


Added on March 17, 2008, 9:28 pm

it sound rojak... but.. it is malaysia culture mar... haha... but... to build my own rojak system is to hav some self -satisfation... if buying a WC kits.. will b a bit boring... hahaha.. to survive, we nid sacrifice.. hahaha.. kidding sweat.gif
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water cooling is about maintaining clean coolant at a optimal flow to ure waterblock.

with air bubbles mixed up in ure coolant.. u just halved ure heat capacity of each coolant molecules.

second gunk will be formed in ure tubes and waterblock.. so u will get inefficient flow..which will reduce ure heat capacity again and heat transfer..
having a high head pump will just speed this up and its inevitable .

what does all this means..
ure delta is going to be ridicilous that a highend air cooler can beat this.

this is y tubing is so important.. ask darkscythe.. kekek he just bought my half clear tygons.. and he cleaned his rad and got rid of all the air bubbles on his rad ..
now his cooling is more optimal.. his delta now is moreless constant between idle and load.. while ure setup its going to get worse as ure vcore goes up.


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post Mar 18 2008, 04:37 PM

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i really hope that you will close this thread soon cause its attracting a lot of SPAM meat smile.gif

 

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