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TSspirit of demon
post Mar 17 2008, 05:47 AM, updated 18y ago

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hello everyone, i m a newbie to liquid cooling system.. after few days survey on those WC kits.. i hav my own plan.. to build my own customise liquid cooling based on my fish tank filter system.. i nid some opinion n comment fr u all.. bcoz i dun know whether my plan is work or not... so... hopefully some expert.. can giv me some tips bout it.. lolz.. rclxms.gif erm... ya.. (pls assume tat the piping work is good, means no leakage).. here... i attach wif the picture... sry bout the drawing... sweat.gif

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post Mar 17 2008, 06:34 AM

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no radiator?
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post Mar 17 2008, 06:45 AM

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this shud be interesting laugh.gif

are you planning to cool ur entire pc ? or just specific pieces of hardware (proc etc etc) ?


(actually .... just curious about that water block of yours brows.gif )
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post Mar 17 2008, 07:17 AM

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a bit weird..... i think your method is not complete.....
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post Mar 17 2008, 07:37 AM

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maybe TS live in Genting Highlands... tongue.gif
isnt fishtank pump got huge waterflow?
what type of piping are u planning to do? hmm.gif
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post Mar 17 2008, 08:09 AM

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Hrmm.... hmm.gif sounds gud....building ur own WC.... But where is da rad??? It uses a rad does it??? Prefer u buy a WBlock... Better thumbup.gif
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post Mar 17 2008, 08:13 AM

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Noo.. He is using a Pentium 75 Mhz Processor,,, hehehehehe
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post Mar 17 2008, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Mar 17 2008, 08:09 AM)
Hrmm.... hmm.gif  sounds gud....building ur own WC.... But where is da rad??? It uses a rad does it??? Prefer u buy a WBlock... Better  thumbup.gif
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ya... actually the water block, pipe, fish pump are buy one.. not build by my own.. n juz wan to know is it function... in this method...


Added on March 17, 2008, 5:02 pm
QUOTE(corad @ Mar 17 2008, 06:45 AM)
this shud be interesting laugh.gif

are you planning to cool ur entire pc ? or just specific pieces of hardware (proc etc etc) ?
(actually .... just curious about that water block of yours  brows.gif )
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ya.. forget to inform tat.. for now, i only wan to cool my proc... so.. is it work..


Added on March 17, 2008, 5:05 pm
QUOTE(xxmetalhead86xx @ Mar 17 2008, 06:34 AM)
no radiator?
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ya.. do i still nid a radiator.. isn't tat the coolant is cool enuf.. "no offence, juz qestion".. i know radiator help to release the heat.. but without radiator.. does it affect much.. isn't tat liquid coolant is cool enuf d? thx for replying


Added on March 17, 2008, 5:08 pm
QUOTE(spirit of demon @ Mar 17 2008, 05:01 PM)
ya... actually the water block, pipe, fish pump are buy one.. not build by my own.. n juz wan to know is it function... in this method...


Added on March 17, 2008, 5:02 pm

ya.. forget to inform tat.. for now, i only wan to cool my proc... so.. is it work..


Added on March 17, 2008, 5:05 pm

ya.. do i still nid a radiator.. isn't tat the coolant is cool enuf.. "no offence, juz qestion".. i know radiator help to release the heat.. but without radiator.. does it affect much.. isn't tat liquid coolant is cool enuf d? thx for replying
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ya.. one more things is.. normally the pump is situated outside the liquid coolant.. in the picture that i hav uploaded.. i placed the fish pump inside the liquid coolant.. is there any problem...

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post Mar 17 2008, 06:17 PM

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eh bye bye tubes+water block..

wonder what is going to be living there.

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post Mar 17 2008, 06:23 PM

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well it workable, u need a large tank though. Best if the water discharge is above the fish tank with nozzle like a cooling tower

but u have to make sure ur pump has enough pressure to pump to ur pc as u need a large tank and pump the water quick enough or else what cstkl1 said would happen.

but seriously not adviceble, open water loop to atmosphere got lot of small small problem. try ask metalzone for opinion
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post Mar 17 2008, 06:25 PM

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The idea of cooling the CPU using the fish pump and the fish tank itself is cool. You can even put some gold fish or an Arowana into the fish tank, hahahah......

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post Mar 17 2008, 06:58 PM

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Well.... Putting da pump inside da tank itself will cause da water temp 2 increase... Bcuz produce heat.... But at least I think u need double rad 2 cool down... N if u 1 2 put fish, u gotta monitor da temp 4rom time 2 time... nod.gif + no coolant.. later on u get green or blue fish... tongue.gif laugh.gif
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post Mar 17 2008, 07:02 PM

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if for normal use... use stock cooler better la... ur rojak system like very "dangerous"... lol
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post Mar 17 2008, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 17 2008, 06:17 PM)
eh bye bye tubes+water block..

wonder what is going to be living there.
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may i know wat is bye bye tubes? sry i m noob here.. so some simple phrase oso nid to ask... pls explain ya.. thanks...


Added on March 17, 2008, 9:23 pm
QUOTE(LExus65 @ Mar 17 2008, 06:23 PM)
well it workable, u need a large tank though. Best if the water discharge is above the fish tank with nozzle like a cooling tower

but u have to make sure ur pump has enough pressure to pump to ur pc as u need a large tank and pump the water quick enough or else what cstkl1 said would happen.

but seriously not adviceble, open water loop to atmosphere got lot of small small problem. try ask metalzone for opinion
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may i know wat is the small small problem... can tell me more details..


Added on March 17, 2008, 9:24 pm
QUOTE(justin78 @ Mar 17 2008, 06:25 PM)
The idea of cooling the CPU using the fish pump and the fish tank itself is cool. You can even put some gold fish or an Arowana into the fish tank, hahahah......

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i prefer put in some red arowana than silver arowana... n prefer to put in blood parrot than gold fish.. juz like my fish tank... comedy... lolz rclxm9.gif


Added on March 17, 2008, 9:26 pm
QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Mar 17 2008, 06:58 PM)
Well.... Putting da pump inside da tank itself will cause da water temp 2 increase... Bcuz produce heat.... But at least I think u need double rad 2 cool down... N if u 1 2 put fish, u gotta monitor da temp 4rom time 2 time... nod.gif  + no coolant.. later on u get green or blue fish... tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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temperature.. i think is not the problem.. coz arowana prefer hotter water.. 28-32 celcius.. coolant is the problem.. toxiz ... man!!!!! vmad.gif


Added on March 17, 2008, 9:28 pm
QUOTE(IcEMoCHa @ Mar 17 2008, 07:02 PM)
if for normal use... use stock cooler better la... ur rojak system like very "dangerous"... lol
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it sound rojak... but.. it is malaysia culture mar... haha... but... to build my own rojak system is to hav some self -satisfation... if buying a WC kits.. will b a bit boring... hahaha.. to survive, we nid sacrifice.. hahaha.. kidding sweat.gif

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post Mar 17 2008, 09:32 PM

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first u need to care..

1.pump
2.tube.
3.coolant
4.reservoir
5.wb
6.rad

1. make sure u have the output flow enuff.. not too fast, n not too slow.. for me 1800l/H is good
2. make sure u use the thick one.. make sure no bend at all.
3. this depend on ur self.. coolant focusing on the anti-rust.. u must know. u deal with metal.. so think urself
4.this can be either bekas or aquarium itself laugh.gif
5. u can create this.. but use ur logical n creative think
6. this is the important stuf. how u want to reduce the temp back?? this is the part.. if u not attach it.. for sure, it's nothing..better use stock hsf

edited: i'm use the mod WC stuff... flex.gif

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post Mar 17 2008, 09:33 PM

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Ok, here is the point:
Ur plan got some problem,
1st of all, if using a large fish pump, we assume that the heat energy absorb by water will dissipate from there, but u need the tank to be open air, which mean ur loop is prone to bacteria, i believe after using few months u will facing trouble with algaes and some unknown living organism inside the loop.
Secondly, if u plan to use a big water tank, u must own a pump that is strong enough to pump those water in and out and its able to operate under water, which means regular small pump wont provide sufficient enough head pressure, u will facing trouble finding high head pressure, low heat dump pumps, u will probably need external pump, idwaki class maybe, usually rm400+.
Besides of that, coolant will not cool enough to cool the proc, coolant is just act as a medium to absorb and transfer heat from water block to radiator, from radiator, the radiator fan dissipate the heat energy to surrounding air, actually pc water cooling is just acting like car cooling system, a basic kit u will need a pump, and radiator. Coolant also helps to prevent corrosion.

for more info:
kindly browse watercooling tips section or go to http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=75873

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post Mar 17 2008, 09:35 PM

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There are people doing this before smile.gif I guess it's more of personal preference but let's hope you won't kill any fishes.
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post Mar 17 2008, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Mar 17 2008, 09:35 PM)
There are people doing this before smile.gif I guess it's more of personal preference but let's hope you won't kill any fishes.
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yup, i saw some european done that before, but seriously this wont work for long term, just for testing purpose only... if used in long term, the loop will be full of living organism inside...

add ons:
placing the pump inside the loop are increasing heat dump into the loop, u must find a high head pressure + high flow yet low heat dump fish pump, which is hard to find in market...

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post Mar 17 2008, 09:40 PM

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haha.. before this they just use river.. n use pump.. turn back the water to the river.. so cold n cool laugh.gif
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post Mar 17 2008, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Mar 17 2008, 09:40 PM)
haha.. before this they just use river.. n use pump.. turn back the water to the river.. so cold n cool laugh.gif
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yup, its will work, but after few months the water cooling loop will be .....

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=70
more links for TS to refer..

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