hello everyone, i m a newbie to liquid cooling system.. after few days survey on those WC kits.. i hav my own plan.. to build my own customise liquid cooling based on my fish tank filter system.. i nid some opinion n comment fr u all.. bcoz i dun know whether my plan is work or not... so... hopefully some expert.. can giv me some tips bout it.. lolz.. erm... ya.. (pls assume tat the piping work is good, means no leakage).. here... i attach wif the picture... sry bout the drawing...

This post has been edited by spirit of demon: Mar 17 2008, 05:54 AM


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no radiator?

this shud be interesting

are you planning to cool ur entire pc ? or just specific pieces of hardware (proc etc etc) ?


(actually .... just curious about that water block of yours )

a bit weird..... i think your method is not complete.....

maybe TS live in Genting Highlands...
isnt fishtank pump got huge waterflow?
what type of piping are u planning to do?

Hrmm.... sounds gud....building ur own WC.... But where is da rad??? It uses a rad does it??? Prefer u buy a WBlock... Better

Noo.. He is using a Pentium 75 Mhz Processor,,, hehehehehe

ya... actually the water block, pipe, fish pump are buy one.. not build by my own.. n juz wan to know is it function... in this method...

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Added on March 17, 2008, 5:02 pmya.. forget to inform tat.. for now, i only wan to cool my proc... so.. is it work..

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Added on March 17, 2008, 5:05 pmya.. do i still nid a radiator.. isn't tat the coolant is cool enuf.. "no offence, juz qestion".. i know radiator help to release the heat.. but without radiator.. does it affect much.. isn't tat liquid coolant is cool enuf d? thx for replying

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Added on March 17, 2008, 5:08 pmya.. one more things is.. normally the pump is situated outside the liquid coolant.. in the picture that i hav uploaded.. i placed the fish pump inside the liquid coolant.. is there any problem...

This post has been edited by spirit of demon: Mar 17 2008, 05:08 PM

eh bye bye tubes+water block..

wonder what is going to be living there.

well it workable, u need a large tank though. Best if the water discharge is above the fish tank with nozzle like a cooling tower

but u have to make sure ur pump has enough pressure to pump to ur pc as u need a large tank and pump the water quick enough or else what cstkl1 said would happen.

but seriously not adviceble, open water loop to atmosphere got lot of small small problem. try ask metalzone for opinion

The idea of cooling the CPU using the fish pump and the fish tank itself is cool. You can even put some gold fish or an Arowana into the fish tank, hahahah......

Well.... Putting da pump inside da tank itself will cause da water temp 2 increase... Bcuz produce heat.... But at least I think u need double rad 2 cool down... N if u 1 2 put fish, u gotta monitor da temp 4rom time 2 time... + no coolant.. later on u get green or blue fish...

if for normal use... use stock cooler better la... ur rojak system like very "dangerous"... lol

may i know wat is bye bye tubes? sry i m noob here.. so some simple phrase oso nid to ask... pls explain ya.. thanks...

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Added on March 17, 2008, 9:23 pmmay i know wat is the small small problem... can tell me more details..

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Added on March 17, 2008, 9:24 pm i prefer put in some red arowana than silver arowana... n prefer to put in blood parrot than gold fish.. juz like my fish tank... comedy... lolz

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Added on March 17, 2008, 9:26 pmtemperature.. i think is not the problem.. coz arowana prefer hotter water.. 28-32 celcius.. coolant is the problem.. toxiz ... man!!!!!

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Added on March 17, 2008, 9:28 pmit sound rojak... but.. it is malaysia culture mar... haha... but... to build my own rojak system is to hav some self -satisfation... if buying a WC kits.. will b a bit boring... hahaha.. to survive, we nid sacrifice.. hahaha.. kidding

This post has been edited by spirit of demon: Mar 17 2008, 09:28 PM

first u need to care..

1.pump
2.tube.
3.coolant
4.reservoir
5.wb
6.rad

1. make sure u have the output flow enuff.. not too fast, n not too slow.. for me 1800l/H is good
2. make sure u use the thick one.. make sure no bend at all.
3. this depend on ur self.. coolant focusing on the anti-rust.. u must know. u deal with metal.. so think urself
4.this can be either bekas or aquarium itself
5. u can create this.. but use ur logical n creative think
6. this is the important stuf. how u want to reduce the temp back?? this is the part.. if u not attach it.. for sure, it's nothing..better use stock hsf

edited: i'm use the mod WC stuff...

This post has been edited by xixo_12: Mar 17 2008, 09:34 PM

Ok, here is the point:
Ur plan got some problem,
1st of all, if using a large fish pump, we assume that the heat energy absorb by water will dissipate from there, but u need the tank to be open air, which mean ur loop is prone to bacteria, i believe after using few months u will facing trouble with algaes and some unknown living organism inside the loop.
Secondly, if u plan to use a big water tank, u must own a pump that is strong enough to pump those water in and out and its able to operate under water, which means regular small pump wont provide sufficient enough head pressure, u will facing trouble finding high head pressure, low heat dump pumps, u will probably need external pump, idwaki class maybe, usually rm400+.
Besides of that, coolant will not cool enough to cool the proc, coolant is just act as a medium to absorb and transfer heat from water block to radiator, from radiator, the radiator fan dissipate the heat energy to surrounding air, actually pc water cooling is just acting like car cooling system, a basic kit u will need a pump, and radiator. Coolant also helps to prevent corrosion.

for more info:
kindly browse watercooling tips section or go to http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=75873

This post has been edited by lichyetan: Mar 17 2008, 09:35 PM

There are people doing this before I guess it's more of personal preference but let's hope you won't kill any fishes.

yup, i saw some european done that before, but seriously this wont work for long term, just for testing purpose only... if used in long term, the loop will be full of living organism inside...

add ons:
placing the pump inside the loop are increasing heat dump into the loop, u must find a high head pressure + high flow yet low heat dump fish pump, which is hard to find in market...

This post has been edited by lichyetan: Mar 17 2008, 09:40 PM

haha.. before this they just use river.. n use pump.. turn back the water to the river.. so cold n cool

yup, its will work, but after few months the water cooling loop will be .....

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=70
more links for TS to refer..

This post has been edited by lichyetan: Mar 17 2008, 09:42 PM

XS googling can help a lot.. they have a lot of crazy idea to beginner start create their own..

ya, TS i recommend u go surf XS, there are lots of extremist creating own water block and cooling idea, some are great some are ....

thanks for ur so detail explaining.. looking into it... n can u show ur mod WC?

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Added on March 18, 2008, 1:58 amthanks for ur replying... erm... ya..where is my NJstar.. hard to find u ..lolz ...

ya... i think the pump shud b enuf to pump into the processor gua... my pump for the fish tank.. can pump up to 2 m.. fr down to top... if posible.. tmr i uploaded the photo... nid to find camera ya... erm, bout the algaes... i saw the reservoir oso got one hole at the top mar... it means it oso expose to the air... any comment bout it?

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Added on March 18, 2008, 2:01 amok... hope i can join one of them... crazy idea ..lolz

This post has been edited by spirit of demon: Mar 18 2008, 02:01 AM

ok, actually 2m is very weak pump, after deducting restriction for the tubings and waterblock, basically not much headroom left, sommore i believe the tubings from the water tank to cpu will be quite long, which means high restrictive.

For the algae part, its not just limited to algae, u will notice strange things as well, its not recommend to expose ur water cooling loop to open air, else few months later u will know, the algae or some unknown living organism will stuck inside ur loop making the flow stucked. The hole at top of reservoir for ur information are sealed by a cap using o-ring, so the whole loop are air tight, that's y we need to open the cap when bleeding the loop. it is not exposed to air. The only way to get the heat out of the loop is using the radiator, if u want to built a DIY set, it is recommend to go car radiator shop to find a kancil radiator or other small radiator for ur project.

For the part for the pump, regular fish pump are not good enough as the heat dump by the pump is quite high, Nirox p2800 is the pump which i think is suitable for custom WC project, rest i dont think its suitable as heat wattage are too high.

I think u should make some changes to the plan, make a custom make reservoir with submerged fish pump by finding someone to tap the hole for u, find a cheap and nice radiator for local car radiator shop, and make a sealed loop. i think its for suitable way to get ur project done, but do keep in mind that the performance may not as good as those swiftech's or thermochill parts, but if done it properly, it may outperform the TT or CM kit.

water cooling is about maintaining clean coolant at a optimal flow to ure waterblock.

with air bubbles mixed up in ure coolant.. u just halved ure heat capacity of each coolant molecules.

second gunk will be formed in ure tubes and waterblock.. so u will get inefficient flow..which will reduce ure heat capacity again and heat transfer..
having a high head pump will just speed this up and its inevitable .

what does all this means..
ure delta is going to be ridicilous that a highend air cooler can beat this.

this is y tubing is so important.. ask darkscythe.. kekek he just bought my half clear tygons.. and he cleaned his rad and got rid of all the air bubbles on his rad ..
now his cooling is more optimal.. his delta now is moreless constant between idle and load.. while ure setup its going to get worse as ure vcore goes up.

i really hope that you will close this thread soon cause its attracting a lot of SPAM meat