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post Mar 15 2008, 09:12 PM, updated 18y ago

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Xigmatek HDT-s1283 Red Scorpion Review

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Official Website Link : Click Here

Xigmatek S1284 Achilles Review: Click Here

If interested to any of the Xigmatek Product?? Go to Prodigius's thread: Click Here

This is my first time doing this so i hope it is acceptable. The picture is just taken by a cheap N70ME hand phone, so please
bear with me if there are some picture of low quality. This mini review will be done step by step and will keep on updating including
some benches. Comments, pictures, screenshots are totally welcomed.

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Content


1. Overview / Features / Specifications / Application
2. Differences Between Plain Vanilla Xigmatek s1283 VS s1283 Red-Scorpion
3. Packaging
4. Spring & Screw Kit Accessories
5. Test bed
6. Fixing
7. Temperature
8. Graphs
9. Conclusion

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1. Overview / Features / Specifications / Application

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2. Differences Between Plain Vanilla Xigmatek s1283 vs s1283 Red-Scorpion [updated 17th March '08]

There is some confusion in this part since xigmatek website spec and the product box spec have different value, i've include both of them inside.
Hope it wont confuse u all.

NOTE: There isn't any big difference between old s1283 VS Red Scorpion Heatsink, The Nickel coated heatpipe in red scorpion is merely for cosmetic
purpose, the only difference between both product is the fan itself. Hence the performance for both heatsink is totally EQUAL / SAME.


1. HEATPIPE ---- [No coat heatpipe] VS [Nickel coated heatpipe]

2. LED ---- [Plain Black Fan] VS [4 White LEDs Fan]

3. LIFESPAN ---- [40,000 hrs] VS [50,000 hrs]

4. AIRFLOW ---- [56.3 cfm] VS [61.3 cfm] <------ from website --- but from box, both are same at [72.1~99.6 cfm]

5. AIR PRESSURE ---- [1.516 mmH2O] VS [1.57 mmH2O] <------ from website --- but from box, both are same at [2.4~4.8mmH2O]

6. NOISE LEVEL ---- [20.6 dBA] VS [27.2 dBA] <------ from website --- but from box, both are [20~32 dBA] VS [18~28 dBA] respectively

7. FAN SPEED ---- Both [800~1500 rpm]<------ from website --- but from box, both are [1000~2200 rpm] VS [800~1500 rpm] respectively

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3. Packaging

The size of the box is the same with the old Xigmatek s-1283, which the only difference is the very cool looking with reddish color
with a scorpion on it. On the back of the box is the SPECIFICATION of the Red-scorpion and one of the side is the APPLICATION which
also means types of sockets supported while the another sides is with 3 cool looking pictures showing Heatpipe-Direct-Touch (H.D.T),
the new stylist 4 white LEDs 120mm Fan of transparent black with Amber color fins and lastly the picture of the heatsink fins with
radiating fins.

Box (Front)

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Box (Both Sides)

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Box (Back)

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Inside the Box we have the gigantic heatsink, stylist fan and a bag of accessories. The heatsink is made up of 3x u-shape Heatpipes,
with the base is heatpipe expose to the processor(H.D.T) and made up of 54 tiny fins. Xigmatek has combined the efficient design
of three exposed copper heatpipes with an extremely durable (and quiet) 4-white-LEDs 120mm fan in their newly released HDT-S1283
Red-Scorpion.

Comparing both old S1283 and s1283 Red-Scorpion with the specification, this new Red-Scorpion fan have better specs interms
of Airflow, Life Expectance and Noise Level. The Life Expectance is 50,000 hrs which is amazingly 10,000 hrs longer compared to
the predecessor s1283. The fanspeed is rated at 1000-2100rpm for the old while the new 1 have lower rpm which is only 800-1500rpm.
Due to its lower fanspeed, the noise level is lower too which is [18~28 dBA] only, an improvement from [20~32 dBA]. There is
confusion for the specs from Xigmatek official website and box specification for the airflow. The box stated both of them have the
same airflow which is [72.1~99.6 cfm] while the website have both different value. Wondering which is the correct one. Anyway
its still a great improvement for the fan.

Heatsink + Fan

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Manual

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Heatsink

Xigmatek uses 100% copper in their 8mm heatpipes here which is the same as the old s1283, which tremendously improve
the evaporation and condensation cycle in the HDT-S1283 Red Scorpion. This time the coated the all the heatpipes with nickel
except the base, which it mustn't be do so.

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Looking from the top down, we can see how Xigmatek have added small dimples in the aluminum fins for the spoiler to attach to.
The heatpipes are positioned towards the outer edge of the cooling fins, directly in the path of the highest airflow from the fan.

As the heatpipes extend upwards, multiple layers of "fins" are attached. The heatpipes transfer the heat into the much thinner fins,
and then the air blown by the fan takes the heat from the fins.

Fan

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Heatsink Base

The usable area of the Xigmatek HDT-S1283's base is 42x35mm in size. the three 8mm diameter copper heatpipes have been swaged
into the aluminum base block, and each surface made flush by a light sanding.

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Accessories Included

Same as the old s1283, the Red Scorpion ships with brackets for LGA775 and AMD K8 processors (754/939/940/AM2 respectively).
The Intel socket 775 clips use the standard push-to-lock plastic clips that insert into the four motherboard holes around the
processor socket. AMD Athlon64 processors on 754/939/940/AM2/AM2+ work with a modified spring clip that attaches to the
lugs on the AMD heatsink retention frame. A cam lever at one end of the clip applies pressure to the heatsink base directly.
The AMD clip is tool free, but the metal is thin and tends to bend towards one side or another after clamping pressure is applied.
3-pin to Molex converter, high performance thermal compound, 2-screws and a radiating fin.

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Fan + heatsink Combine (Front + Side + 45' View)

When it combine with the stylist fan, it looks very attractive as it will almost attract everyone from getting
it. Below are some different viewing angle when it is combine. Attractive isn't it?

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Front Side of Fan (Dark Room)

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Fan + heatsink Combine + Power On

The Fan speed is a little different from the old s1283 blackish fan which have 1000-2000RPM, this new fan
is spinning at minimum 750RPM to a maximum of 1,500RPM. Amazingly the fan didn't make much noise at
its maximum speed or at least u wont be hearing anything from 1 meter away from the casing with the side
panel closed. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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4. Spring & Screw Kit

NOTE: Please take note that this SS Kit is sold separately...

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(Socket 775's enhance kit, it can protect your motherboard from getting bend, provides secure installation
and increase the cooling performance too, from 1-3'C)

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5. Test Bed

Software
Windows Vista Ultimate Edition
Everest Ultimate Edition 4.10.1126
CoreTemp 0.97.1 (LINK)
CPU-Z 1.42 (LINK)
PRIME95 v25.6 Build 6 (LINK)

Hardware
HSF = Intel Stock Fan(E6750) & Xigmatek s1283 Red-Scorpion
Processor = Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66ghz 1333FSB 4mb L2-cache G0-Stepping
Motherboard = Gigabyte P35-DS3 (Rev1.0)
Memory = 4x 1gb Kingston Value Ram DDR2-800mhz
Graphic Card = Asus 8800GT TOP Edition 512mb (700/1750/2000)
Power Supply = Silverstone Strider ST56F 560W
Casing = Cooler Master CM690 With 5x 120mm Silent/LED Fan
[1x Front-Bottom(Intake), 1x Bottom(Intake), 1x Back(Exhaust), 1x Top(Exhaust), 1x Side Panel(Intake)]

Thermal Compound = Artic Cooler MX-2 High Performance Thermal Compound

NOTE: Test is done with EIST, C1E, TM2 and virtualization turning OFF for LOAD bench

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6. Fixing

Spring & Screw Kit (sold separately) is easily installed onto the base of the heatsink with 2 screw provided. Thermal paste AC MX-2 is applied with
a line across the 3 heatpipes at in the picture below to achieve a better performance. Its just to make sure all 3 heatpipes is contact
with the processor with the compound in between.

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The Red-Scorpion have no problem with Gigabyte P35-DS3... no chance of touching the northbridge HS at all thumbup.gif

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Complete Red-Scorpion is installed on the test bed. It looks gigantic isn't it? Yes it is. But who cares as if it performs well.
Below are some pictures taken from difference angle of it.

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The whole system is pllaced into the casing. I have a bit difficulty on plug in the 3.3v power into the mobo when it is inside the
casing due to the Red-Scorpion have a gigantic size and my top fan too which makes the whole upper area becoming very small.
But no worries as the socket is not blocked at all.

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Side Panel closed. The Red-Scorpion is Gigantic as mention alot of times earlier. It is just enough for the CM690 Casing side panel
to close it and leaving not much space between the top of the heatsink and the side panel. For those who small casing or any CM690
casing with fan directly onto the processor... you wont have enough space to close the side panel if u have a fan there.

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7. Temperature

(Screenshots already reduced to 75% for better view in smaller screen)

Red-Scorpion + 2.66ghz.... IDLE....... (Stock Vcore[1.325v] + Stock FSB/MCH voltage) = 31'c
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Red-Scorpion + 3.0ghz.... IDLE....... (Stock Vcore[1.325v] + Stock FSB/MCH voltage) = 31'c
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Intel Stock Fan + 3.0ghz.... IDLE....... (Stock Vcore[1.325v] + Stock FSB/MCH voltage) = 36'c
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Red-Scorpion + 2.66ghz.... LOAD....... (Stock Vcore[1.325v] + Stock FSB/MCH voltage) = 52'c
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Intel Stock Fan + 3.0ghz.... LOAD....... (Stock Vcore[1.325v] + Stock FSB/MCH voltage) = 65'c
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Red-Scorpion + 3.0ghz.... LOAD....... (Stock Vcore[1.325v] + Stock FSB/MCH voltage) = 54'c
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Red-Scorpion + 3.2ghz.... LOAD....... (Stock Vcore[1.325v] + Stock FSB/MCH voltage) = 56'c
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Red-Scorpion + 3.4ghz.... LOAD....... (Vcore set to 1.375v + FSB/MCH set to +0.1v) 59'c
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Red-Scorpion + 3.6ghz.... LOAD....... (Vcore set to 1.400v + FSB/MCH set to +0.1v) = 61'c
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8. Graphs

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9. Conclusion

The Xigmatek HDT-S1283 Red-Scorpion is a massive cooler with just as big 8 mm heat pipes. The great upside of such a large
heatsink is the use of a large fan, which does significantly decrease the noise level and it does manage to cool the CPU well. So
if you are looking for a quiet alternative to that stock cooler, the very well built Red-Scorpion is a good choice as it will also cool
the surrounding components.

The Fan was extremely quite. Cant hear anything from 1 meter away with side panel closed even at its full speed which is 1,500rpm.
This Red-Scorpion is amazing as it still cooler at 3.6ghz with Xigmatek VS 3.0ghz with Intel stock fan which is 61'c and 65'c respectively.
Predict and estimate it can bear E6750 overclocked till around 3.8ghz. Really a recommended cooler which have an amazing price/performance.
There is no comparison between the old plain vanilla s1283 with this Red Scorpion for now. Hope we will see one somewhere soon. Its
even better when C1E, EIST, TM2 is activated..... at 3.6ghz with all thermal features activated... it idle at 37'c which I'm using it as my
default clockspeed now. It is incredibly AMAZING!!!!!

Pros
- HDT design
- Quality
- Very quiet fan compared
- Compatibility with motherboard
- Replaceable fan
- PWM fan
- Great value/performance

Cons
- LED Fan is not as bright, attractive, and nice as in advertise picture
- Will not fit in all cases - height.
- No External Fan Controller (not so important)
- Confusing for specification from website VS product box

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how much is the damage?
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xigmatek red scorpion user reporting in!

man.. this cooler is powderful... the cpu temp(not core temp) dropped from 68 to 44 on load @1.3v 475x8=3.8ghz on my e8400 compared to intel stock HSF thumbup.gif


here's some screenies for red scorpion on load in aircond room.... no screenies for intel HSF available cos lazy want to fit it back to test tongue.gif but i still remember clearly the temp is around 68 on the same clock biggrin.gif


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any chance to compare how much improvement from normal version to this? smile.gif
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oh my god... i was looking this HDT S1283 non Scorpion before, seems like no1 bulk it....

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performance nice or not? or the previous one btter? lol
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Mar 16 2008, 01:28 AM)
xigmatek red scorpion user reporting in! man.. this cooler is powderful... the cpu temp dropped from 68 to 42 on load @1.3v  475x8=3.8ghz  on my e8400 compared to intel stock HSF  thumbup.gif
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U can easily reach 4GHz what... flex.gif
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any comparison between the old n this red scorpion in term of the temperature
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QUOTE(emilz @ Mar 16 2008, 03:34 AM)
any comparison between the old n this red scorpion in term of the temperature
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sry i cant carry out old VS new s1283 coz i dont have the old 1.... tongue.gif i'll be comparing stock intel VS redscorpion...
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Mar 16 2008, 02:37 AM)
U can easily reach 4GHz what... flex.gif
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yup..that was just the test clock i use on stock HSF to compare with red scorpion... stock HSF cant be used to compare if use 4ghz... the temp is too high sweat.gif

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another red scorpion coming in.... i got to tell u that this thing is magnificent... my e6550 temp drop like hell more than 20 degrees...

stock HSF
load=70 degrees (max)
idle=40-45 degrees

Xigmatek Red Scorpion S-1283
load=50 (max)
idle=30-35

i can conclude that it is the best cooler i ever seen so far... the HDT is just so good and the scorpion keeps poisoning my e6550 to cool down... laugh.gif

some pics for u guys.... pm ckhoong if u r interested...

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QUOTE(emilz @ Mar 16 2008, 03:34 AM)
any comparison between the old n this red scorpion in term of the temperature
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the old version has lower cfm, lesser life span, sound level are higher..... other than that everything are the same except for the colours...

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EDIT: sorry bout the post... just too excited bout the cooler...

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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 16 2008, 04:33 AM)
the old version has lower cfm, lesser life span, sound level are higher..... other than that everything are the same except for the colours...
he mean benchies..... as the theoritical differences already mention in section 2........
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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 16 2008, 04:52 AM)
he mean benchies..... as the theoritical differences already mention in section 2........
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my fault then... sorry ya... blush.gif

but just want to let u guys know the diff... smile.gif
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 16 2008, 04:55 AM)
my fault then... sorry ya...  blush.gif

but just want to let u guys know the diff...  smile.gif
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 16 2008, 04:33 AM)
another red scorpion coming in.... i got to tell u that this thing is magnificent... my e6550 temp drop like hell more than 20 degrees...

stock HSF
load=70 degrees (max)
idle=40-45 degrees

Xigmatek Red Scorpion S-1283
load=50 (max)
idle=30-35

i can conclude that it is the best cooler i ever seen so far... the HDT is just so good and the scorpion keeps poisoning my e6550 to cool down...  laugh.gif

some pics for u guys.... pm ckhoong if u r interested...

EDIT: sorry bout the post... just too excited bout the cooler...
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wow man the cooler can reduce to 20 deg that should be amazing cooler drool.gif
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QUOTE(emilz @ Mar 16 2008, 06:15 AM)
wow man the cooler can reduce to 20 deg that should be amazing cooler drool.gif
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20'c is alot.... mine just 11'c difference at OCed 3.0ghz......

it depends actually... at load 70'c is very hot for stocks... might not have good enuf airflow inside it... tongue.gif.. so when change to xigmatek.. the airflow bcom better due to higher cfm and the air flow from 1side to another... not like intel stock fan blow facing onto the board

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what do you guys think will it bring much difference if i change from my current thermaltake v1 to the xigmatek red scorpion?
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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 16 2008, 06:43 AM)
20'c is alot.... mine just 11'c difference at OCed 3.0ghz......

it depends actually... at load 70'c is very hot for stocks... might not have good enuf airflow inside it... tongue.gif.. so when change to xigmatek.. the airflow bcom better due to higher cfm and the air flow from 1side to another... not like intel stock fan blow facing onto the board
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Walaoweh..... nice short review..... suddenly become reviewer pulak... thumbup.gif

I think your difference is less because of lower OC. The difference would be greater at higher voltage and higher OC. smile.gif
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QUOTE(ir1z @ Mar 16 2008, 06:49 AM)
what do you guys think will it bring much difference if i change from my current thermaltake v1 to the xigmatek red scorpion?
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haha not very sure..... personally feel dont need to change but if u can get good value for it then ok lor..


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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 16 2008, 07:34 AM)
Walaoweh..... nice short review..... suddenly become reviewer pulak...  thumbup.gif

I think your difference is less because of lower OC. The difference would be greater at higher voltage and higher OC.  smile.gif
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lol no la... reviewer pulak.. haha just make for fun.. try everythg ma... at least have bit of experience...tongue.gif

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But 1 thing i concern about the temperature reading, coz from my experience, Core Temp get different reading from those utilities come with ur mobo, perhaps someone here to clarify this???

Difference between the old and the new red scorpion can easily being seen by the heatpipe, the new 1 seems to have 1 layer coated on to the heatpipe, might improve the heat transfer.... just my 2 cents... =) still need some users with both the old and the new cooler to test out the performance

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How S1283 vs Ultra-120 (normal version)?
I Tried to google around seem like they are almost same performance. But ultra-120 got higher height clearance than S1283.
I askin this bcoz also kena poison by S1283...just want to know if worth change or not.

Thank for any constructive comment..TY!!

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From what I study last time until now (not never got real test at all), thermalright 120 Ultra Extreme can handle higher temperature compare to this Xigmatek 1283. I am not sure the Ultra version.

Generally it is good cooler, the little comment about this product. The built quality is just need to have some improve. Do you guys (currenct xigmatek user) agree that the fin easily to loose from Heatpipe?


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Wah, nice review there. And it's so cool that makes me feel like getting one.
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does the screw spring kit included or not?
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What's the weight of the this particular cooler?

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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Mar 16 2008, 11:20 AM)
does the screw spring kit included or not?
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nope, thats not included sweat.gif push pin is still bundle as default coz of easy installation for newbie sweat.gif
while i have given feedback to manufacture to retail cooler with s&s kit only..see how it goes

QUOTE(ahsiah @ Mar 16 2008, 10:48 AM)
From what I study last time until now (not never got real test at all), thermalright 120 Ultra Extreme can handle higher temperature compare to this Xigmatek 1283. I am not sure the Ultra version.

Generally it is good cooler, the little comment about this product. The built quality is just need to have some improve. Do you guys (currenct xigmatek user) agree that the fin easily to loose from Heatpipe?
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bro ah siah, basically this second batch cooler, there is a small revision:

-better packaging for protection
-the fins on top wouldnt loose out easily, manufacture has applied paste to secure the fins
-lower noise but greater life span n air flow fan
-better aluminum CPU block, looks better than 1st batch


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QUOTE(mikelanding @ Mar 16 2008, 10:27 AM)
How S1283 vs Ultra-120 (normal version)?
I Tried to google around seem like they are almost same performance. But ultra-120 got higher height clearance than S1283.
I askin this bcoz also kena poison by S1283...just want to know if worth change or not.

Thank for any constructive comment..TY!!

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Nice purshace U got there...smile.gif
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hopefully this is what u are looking for... i do think that s1283 is a better buy for u for its price over performance ratio thumbup.gif
QUOTE(kianweic @ Mar 16 2008, 11:37 AM)
What's the weight of the this particular cooler?

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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Mar 16 2008, 11:20 AM)
does the screw spring kit included or not?
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QUOTE(Downcast @ Mar 16 2008, 09:36 AM)
But 1 thing i concern about the temperature reading, coz from my experience,  Core Temp get different reading from those utilities come with ur mobo, perhaps someone here to clarify this???

Difference between the old and the new red scorpion can easily being seen by the heatpipe, the new 1 seems to have 1 layer coated on to the heatpipe, might improve the heat transfer.... just my 2 cents... =) still need some users with both the old and the new cooler to test out the performance
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im not sure about that too... but im using 2 CPU temperature sw.... everest ultimate/ coretemp... tongue.gif


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QUOTE(ahsiah @ Mar 16 2008, 08:36 AM)
any review on the Xigmatek Battle-Axe?
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QUOTE(fesick @ Mar 16 2008, 10:09 AM)
me also waiting for my xigmatek S1283
bro vincentlaw need ur permision to post some s.shot here later  laugh.gif
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no problem la bro.. all people are welcome to post any benchies and picture... this topic is meant to share...


Added on March 16, 2008, 12:32 pm
QUOTE(mikelanding @ Mar 16 2008, 10:27 AM)
How S1283 vs Ultra-120 (normal version)?
I Tried to google around seem like they are almost same performance. But ultra-120 got higher height clearance than S1283.
I askin this bcoz also kena poison by S1283...just want to know if worth change or not.

Thank for any constructive comment..TY!!

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Nice purshace U got there...smile.gif
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Acording to majority of review sites, Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme a.k.a TRUE is better compared to the old s1283, when a fan is installed on it... but due to the fan specification of this red-scorpion is better and still wondering the silver plated coated on the heatpipe is just cosmetic or enhance performance, red scorpion might be nearer to TRUE, but i guess TRUE will be still the winner but just slightly.


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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Mar 16 2008, 11:20 AM)
does the screw spring kit included or not?
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QUOTE(Goliath764 @ Mar 16 2008, 11:11 AM)
Wah, nice review there. And it's so cool that makes me feel like getting one.
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hehe thx. Go get 1 too.. and start OC and benchies then post up ur screenie too.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(kianweic @ Mar 16 2008, 11:37 AM)
What's the weight of the this particular cooler?

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well done , very clear review , to me is not short review . overall is good . just u can do a graf to shown the result of temperature ...

i'm the old s1283 user , i feel this better abit . because it's quiet and silver heatpipe
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QUOTE(mikelanding @ Mar 16 2008, 10:27 AM)
How S1283 vs Ultra-120 (normal version)?
I Tried to google around seem like they are almost same performance. But ultra-120 got higher height clearance than S1283.
I askin this bcoz also kena poison by S1283...just want to know if worth change or not.

Thank for any constructive comment..TY!!

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Nice purshace U got there...smile.gif
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i personnaly think the ultra-120 is good but its for the price and performance ratio i will still go for the red scorpion... and bout the clearance, the s-1283 clearance is around 4 cm if im not mistaken... very seldom the stocks mobo's NB are higher than that... IMO red scorpion s-1283 is the choice....

better be fast or not later no stock then u need to wait again... i been waiting for like around 1 month plus for this red scorpion to sting me.... ahahah
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this cooler looks is better than quality .. but the price is kinda high brows.gif
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QUOTE(likito @ Mar 16 2008, 02:21 PM)
well done , very clear review , to me is not short review . overall is good . just u can do a graf to shown the result of temperature ...

i'm the old s1283 user , i feel this better abit . because it's quiet and silver heatpipe
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hehe ya wanna do a graph but only have word2003, which the graph is very ugly. Hehe later go my fren house to use his word2007 to make graph. Nicer alot.. anyway already updated again with minor description..

The fan is quieter, longer lifespan, higher CFM acording to spec, but from the test it only have 750-1500RPM which is min-max rpm. how bout the old 1? 1000-2000rpm?


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QUOTE(Ickythump @ Mar 16 2008, 02:38 PM)
this cooler looks is better than quality .. but the price is kinda high brows.gif
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if u compare to TRUE, its much more cheaper already as TRUE dont have fan come with it, with fan it will cost ~rm295 or so with 120mm UV vizo fan. But luckily it comes with spring&screw kit, else will be much more expensive. So Rm229 vs ~Rm295.

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OLD S1283 the fan can goes up to 2100 rpm.. then u can hear a loud noise out liao...
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QUOTE(Downcast @ Mar 16 2008, 03:06 PM)
OLD S1283 the fan can goes up to 2100 rpm.. then u can hear a loud noise out liao...
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but the noise is it acceptable?? then how is the performance??

i dont really mind it the loud noise as long as it is acceptable and it has good performance... but too bad the my red scorpion only can go up to 1510rpm....
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 16 2008, 03:30 PM)
but the noise is it acceptable?? then how is the performance??

i dont really mind it the loud noise as long as it is acceptable and it has good performance... but too bad the my red scorpion only can go up to 1510rpm....
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u can always change ur fan to something like silverstone fm123 if u want tongue.gif but personally i will prefer silent setup
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This got what different compare to the normal version?

LEDs?
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QUOTE(Liuteva @ Mar 16 2008, 04:06 PM)
This got what different compare to the normal version?

LEDs?
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it is shown in 1st post.... its more than just LED changes... it poison ur proc... ahahahaha
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QUOTE(Downcast @ Mar 16 2008, 03:06 PM)
OLD S1283 the fan can goes up to 2100 rpm.. then u can hear a loud noise out liao...
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no la, i set my s1283 fan to 2100 rpm for daily use..
if u put ur ear next to the fan then only u can hear the noise..
but for normal closed casing it's not a problem...
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 16 2008, 04:16 PM)
it is shown in 1st post.... its more than just LED changes... it poison ur proc... ahahahaha
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haha so far 3 ppl kena liao poison... me, u and tkh... tongue.gif


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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Mar 16 2008, 04:39 PM)
no la, i set my s1283 fan to 2100 rpm for daily use..
if u put ur ear next to the fan then only u can hear the noise..
but for normal closed casing it's not a problem...
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means s1283 at max speed 2100rpm, u wont able to hear the noise 1meter away with a closed case?

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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 16 2008, 05:12 PM)
haha so far 3 ppl kena liao poison... me, u and tkh... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 16 2008, 05:12 PM)
means s1283 at max speed 2100rpm, u wont able to hear the noise 1meter away with a closed case?
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if im next to my case (cm690) i can only hear noise from air flow but it's not too quiet yet not loud..
i can say that the noise coming from my case is comparable to the noise that's my ceiling fan makes..

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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 16 2008, 05:12 PM)
haha so far 3 ppl kena liao poison... me, u and tkh... tongue.gif
i guess we are the first three in malaysia to kena poison..... rclxms.gif

anyone else out there want to be the fourth pls get red scorpion from ckhoong... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Mar 16 2008, 05:18 PM)
eh...when u cod with him ar? cos he told me i am the 1st to buy from him yesterday...then i tot can be 1st to post mana tau let u rampas liao  doh.gif  laugh.gif
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me ah... 7.30pm yesterday lor..


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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 16 2008, 05:43 PM)
i guess we are the first three in malaysia to kena poison.....  rclxms.gif

anyone else out there want to be the fourth pls get red scorpion from ckhoong...  laugh.gif
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got alot wanna COD with him.. go his topic and u will know.. haha


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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 16 2008, 06:09 PM)
me ah... 7.30pm yesterday lor..
then i think tkh is the first la... tongue.gif

because he cod with ckhoong around 6.30.... but maybe u install the cooler faster than him la so that makes u the first to use it... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Downcast @ Mar 16 2008, 03:06 PM)
OLD S1283 the fan can goes up to 2100 rpm.. then u can hear a loud noise out liao...
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sory for my shortcut.....that means the older rpm is higher than the new led fan....
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 16 2008, 06:31 PM)
then i think tkh is the first la...  tongue.gif

because he cod with ckhoong around 6.30.... but maybe u install the cooler faster than him la so that makes u the first to use it... thumbup.gif
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no la he install faster... but i post up in buy club faster... i install the cooler at near 1am la.... coz went to midvalley at night and then come back take alot photo,edit,upload, write review .. so it slows down... hehe who first nvm la.. no award also.. haha


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sory for my shortcut.....that means the older rpm is higher than the new led fan....
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yes
old ~1000-2100rpm
new ~750-1500rpm

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seems promising HSf, but i bet BTVX better than this
well, times to change i guess.. i need slimmer hsf currently smile.gif
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oso got the red scorpion at 2pm just now COD with ckhoong.....
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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 16 2008, 06:37 PM)
no la he install faster... but i post up in buy club faster... i install the cooler at near 1am la.... coz went to midvalley at night and then come back take alot photo,edit,upload, write review .. so it slows down... hehe who first nvm la.. no award also.. haha


Added on March 16, 2008, 6:38 pm
yes
old ~1000-2100rpm
new ~750-1500rpm
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alamak....like that make me think to stick wz my old xigmatik....then better hunting for the vga cooler....

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TS,is the fin soldered to the heat pipe?
or just like first model one?

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I would like to ask, you guys apply the TIM on the base of the heatsink, or on the IHS of the processor? Mind to share with me as I not sure which method will give better performance...

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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Mar 16 2008, 08:03 PM)
I would like to ask, you guys apply the TIM on the base of the heatsink, or on the IHS of the processor? Mind to share with me as I not sure which method will give better performance...

Thanks! notworthy.gif
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u can get it from the manual... apply to the heatsink... not the proc according to the manual...
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Mar 16 2008, 07:23 PM)
seems promising HSf, but i bet BTVX better than this
well, times to change i guess.. i need slimmer hsf currently smile.gif
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I heard ben_panced say his old BTVX got pwn by xigmatek s1283. blink.gif
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QUOTE(myee @ Mar 16 2008, 07:54 PM)
alamak....like that make me think to stick wz my old xigmatik....then  better hunting for the vga cooler....
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lol if u got old d dont change to new 1 la.. almost the same.. anyway rpm alone doesnt prove its better.... the new fan more quieter and more advantages compared to the old 1.


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I would like to ask, you guys apply the TIM on the base of the heatsink, or on the IHS of the processor? Mind to share with me as I not sure which method will give better performance...

Thanks! notworthy.gif
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make sure u apply them across all 3 heatpipes in a straight line in the middle and thats shud do the job


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TS,is the fin soldered to the heat pipe?
or just like first model one?

btw,thanks for the time to make this short review,nice!!!
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no problem.... hehe just sharing... would like to listen to other comments and pictures too... im still waiting for other red scorpion benchies from others..
shud be the same with old 1...

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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Mar 16 2008, 05:21 PM)
if im next to my case (cm690) i can only hear noise from air flow but it's not too quiet yet not loud..
i can say that the noise coming from my case is comparable to the noise that's my ceiling fan makes..
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Mine also same case.... those noise is those air flowing noise.. not the FAN noise... the fan noise is acceptable... not like stock cooler HSF noise =)
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Mar 16 2008, 08:03 PM)
I would like to ask, you guys apply the TIM on the base of the heatsink, or on the IHS of the processor? Mind to share with me as I not sure which method will give better performance...

Thanks! notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 16 2008, 10:21 PM)

make sure u apply them across all 3 heatpipes in a straight line in the middle and thats shud do the job

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actually i did apply the TIM on the IHS proc instead of heatpipe cos i scare over spread n dirty the other areas... but the temp result is still around 20c improvement from stock HSF just like everybody smile.gif any specific reason y have to apply on heatpipes instead of proc? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Mar 16 2008, 11:33 PM)
actually i did apply the TIM on the IHS proc instead of heatpipe cos i scare over spread n dirty the other areas... but the temp result is still around 20c improvement from stock HSF just like everybody  smile.gif  any specific reason y have to apply on heatpipes instead of proc? notworthy.gif
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so that u make sure all 3 pipes are applied... it have to applied across all 3 hearpipes in a line... u can do it on the proc too but just make sure all 3heatpipe wil be connected..
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QUOTE(eimzic @ Mar 17 2008, 12:14 AM)
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wow... thats very low for cpu temp man... by the way what's ur core temp?? usually that will be a lil higher...


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air-conditioned room and naked setup??
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direct blow of aircond on it? sweat.gif didnt know that kinda temp can be reached on air-cond
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 17 2008, 12:23 AM)
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wow... thats very low for cpu temp man... by the way what's ur core temp?? usually that will be a lil higher...
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yup it should be like that....even mines between 18 to 23....using 2140....but sadly when come to PD 3.20ghz it going up to 36 to 40...
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Mar 16 2008, 07:57 PM)
TS,is the fin soldered to the heat pipe?
or just like first model one?

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@AceCombact... 2nd batch xigma cooler's fin doesn't soldered to the heat pipe,
manufacture has applied something to the fins n heatpipes, tighten them up

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bro mines was not in air-conditioned room....
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holy crap.... >_<"..... haha.... craZ low temp.... im wonder E8400 + aircon + naked rig + REDSCORPION!!!.....5'c???


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yup it should be like that....even mines between 18 to 23....using 2140....but sadly when come to PD 3.20ghz it going up to 36 to 40...
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E2140 is much more cooler since its a lower performance proc

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well it cant go that low below ambient temp lorr vincent for air cooling.......unless ur room aircond can do 0 celcius than only its possible if im not mistken, (which would make u an ice cube already hahahhaa)
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QUOTE(myee @ Mar 17 2008, 12:32 AM)
yup it should be like that....even mines between 18 to 23....using 2140....but sadly when come to PD 3.20ghz it going up to 36 to 40...
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man...that kinda temp considered very good already lar.... 100% overclock what thumbup.gif btw...how was my ex doin now? tongue.gif how much u got highest from stock vcore?

QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 17 2008, 12:34 AM)
holy crap.... >_<"..... haha.... craZ low temp.... im wonder E8400 + aircon + naked rig + REDSCORPION!!!.....5'c???
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now u mentioned e8400 then i baru remember bout my proc temp reading is only around 24(idle) in aircond room under a closed casing tongue.gif the proc was clocked at 3.8ghz as well during that time flex.gif

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QUOTE(ir1z @ Mar 17 2008, 12:38 AM)
well it cant go that low below ambient temp lorr vincent for air cooling.......unless ur room aircond can do 0 celcius than only its possible if im not mistken, (which would make u an ice cube already hahahhaa)
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mentioned E8400 + aircon + naked rig + REDSCORPION!!!.....5'c la...... dont always look at gals only la... whistling.gif

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finally i found some time to do this... anyway here is a pic after i OC my e6550 at 3.15, fsb 450 with stock vcore and no air cond but half naked....


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the temp doesnt reach 60 which i think is great... maybe if i leave it longer the temp may go higher but previously the core clock was 2.8 with stock HSF and the temp hit 70 after just 10 min...

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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 17 2008, 01:25 AM)
finally i found some time to do this... anyway here is a pic after i OC my e6550 at 3.15, fsb 450 with stock vcore and no air cond but half naked....
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the temp doesnt reach 60 which i think is great... maybe if i leave it longer the temp may go higher but previously the core clock was 2.8 with stock HSF and the temp hit 70 after just 10 min...
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wow...great OC result there on priority 10 rclxms.gif is it on stock vcore? but dude... priority 10 is kinda too cruel for ur proc la sweat.gif just 8 is enuf IMHO...

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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Mar 17 2008, 01:42 AM)
wow...great OC result there on priority 10 rclxms.gif  is it on stock vcore?  but dude... priority 10 is kinda too cruel for ur proc la sweat.gif  just 8 is enuf IMHO...
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yeah stock vcore... i dont usually do priority 10 but just want to see how far the scorpion can perform... and no doubt that xigmatek is good as hell... im thinking of going for higher clock but lazy edi... laugh.gif
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First Review...

Using Zalman CPNS 9700 LED.

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Xigmatek S1283 Red Scorpion

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here's is my red scorpion set up.

thank god is fits vertically on my mars sweat.gif

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QUOTE(ezinger @ Mar 17 2008, 02:46 AM)
here's is my red scorpion set up.

thank god is fits vertically on my mars sweat.gif

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wow the northbridge fan enter accurately into the xigmatek fan corner??? haha it looks both fans touches ..... mind to post picture on that part?

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lorrr...so tempting ar...so anyone go go grab red scorpion fromckhoong..then get rid off ur old xigmatek s1283!!...hehehe...then come offer me...huhu
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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 17 2008, 03:20 AM)
wow the northbridge fan enter accurately into the xigmatek fan corner??? haha it looks both fans touches ..... mind to post picture on that part?
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lol, actually the NB fan is in between the gap of the cpu fan haha..how lucky is that!!
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QUOTE(ezinger @ Mar 17 2008, 04:17 AM)
lol, actually the NB fan is in between the gap of the cpu fan haha..how lucky is that!!
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Added on March 17, 2008, 4:24 amvcore graph uploaded.... temperature graph edited due to minor mistake.. doh.gif

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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 17 2008, 04:23 AM)
vcore graph uploaded.... temperature graph edited due to minor mistake.. doh.gif
Nice one - the graphs. thumbup.gif

Anyway, the old xigmatek fan max rpm is 2200 with a cfm of 99.6 cfm le..... brows.gif
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[quote=tkh_1001,Mar 17 2008, 12:46 AM]
man...that kinda temp considered very good already lar.... 100% overclock what thumbup.gif btw...how was my ex doin now? tongue.gif how much u got highest from stock vcore?

arrggghh.... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
dont ask me bro....cause i really noob on oc knowledge...just really like to do modding instead of oc ing.... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 17 2008, 07:23 AM)
Anyway, the old xigmatek fan max rpm is 2200 with a cfm of 99.6 cfm le.....  brows.gif
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bro, thats very high but may i ask where did u get that source?? or are u using one and u test it with a meter or something??
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The Red Scorpion experience for me is not so joyous, though no fault of the cooler. It works great, immediately see a 7-10c drop in idle temps.
Only thing is somehow during the installation process my Vista x64 install got fubar-ed. Aiiihhh. Luckily there was a XP dual boot to verify that i didn't break anything. I need to get my Vista fix'ed bebfore i can do a full bench on the Red Scorpion.

Wish me luck fellas. sad.gif sweat.gif
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wow thats good to hear eoma......havent got the time to crack open my rig yet to install the scorpion....
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 17 2008, 10:15 AM)
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Nice one - the graphs.  thumbup.gif

Anyway, the old xigmatek fan max rpm is 2200 with a cfm of 99.6 cfm le.....  brows.gif
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bro, thats very high but may i ask where did u get that source?? or are u using one and u test it with a meter or something??
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source? the BOX. tongue.gif

but to reach 2200rpm mayb need a little tweak.
i do manage to get 2080rpm..

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QUOTE(ir1z @ Mar 17 2008, 10:38 AM)
wow thats good to hear eoma......havent got the time to crack open my rig yet to install the scorpion....
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 17 2008, 10:45 AM)
no offence but i dont get what u mean rclxub.gif ... u mean eoma's vista got fubar is a good thing or is it my understanding problem??
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laugh.gif No lah, i'm sure he meant me installing the Red Scorpion as a good thing. Was pretty troublesome though, having to take out the mobo and all.

How did you guys apply thermal paste ar ? I applied a thin line along each heat pipe and also a bit in the gaps between the heat pipes. Also, for those using the S&S kit, do the screws go all the way down, if you get what I mean ?
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QUOTE(Eoma @ Mar 17 2008, 10:59 AM)
laugh.gif  No lah, i'm sure he meant me installing the Red Scorpion as a good thing. Was pretty troublesome though, having to take out the mobo and all.

How did you guys apply thermal paste ar ? I applied a thin line along each heat pipe and also a bit in the gaps between the heat pipes. Also, for those using the S&S kit,  do the screws go all the way down, if you get what I mean ?
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hmm i applied it a line across the 3 heatpipe instead.... for SSkit, screw them bit by bit for all 4 legs until tight to make sure it press down equally and not only 1 side press down at a time..... not straighaway 1 time finish 1 leg...
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bro, thats very high but may i ask where did u get that source?? or are u using one and u test it with a meter or something??
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source? the BOX. tongue.gif

but to reach 2200rpm mayb need a little tweak.
i do manage to get 2080rpm..

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bro... is yours a red scorpion or the older version? may i know how you modify to run at 2.2k rev/min?
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ok since i look at the box of red scorpion and compared it to eimzic vanila s1283 box... found that the value from box and website in different, both fan have same CFM but red scorpion fan is slower therefore less noise, i've edit this on the first page.

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2. Differences Between Plain Vanilla Xigmatek s1283 vs s1283 Red-Scorpion [updated 17th March '08]

There is some confusion in this part since xigmatek website spec and the product box spec have different value, i've include both of them inside.
Hope it wont confuse u all.

1. HEATPIPE ---- [No coat heatpipe] VS [Silver coated heatpipe]

2. LED ---- [Plain Black Fan] VS [4 White LEDs Fan]

3. LIFESPAN ---- [40,000 hrs] VS [50,000 hrs]

4. AIRFLOW ---- [56.3 cfm] VS [61.3 cfm] <------ from website --- but from box, both are same at [72.1~99.6 cfm]

5. AIR PRESSURE ---- [1.516 mmH2O] VS [1.57 mmH2O] <------ from website --- but from box, both are same at [2.4~4.8mmH2O]

6. NOISE LEVEL ---- [20.6 dBA] VS [27.2 dBA] <------ from website --- but from box, both are [20~32 dBA] VS [18~28 dBA] respectively

7. FAN SPEED ---- Both [800~1500 rpm]<------ from website --- but from box, both are [1000~2200 rpm] VS [800~1500 rpm] respectively

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i only use 1000rpm for daily use..
the heatsink is too good, I even tried without the fan for a day. brows.gif
cant remember the temp but acceptable since i can touch the heatsink with my bare hand.
Wonder how it perform on e8xxx . brows.gif

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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Mar 16 2008, 10:06 PM)
I heard ben_panced say his old BTVX got pwn by xigmatek s1283.  blink.gif
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hmm izzit caused of higher RPM from s1283(2200rpm)?
btvx fan only around 1800~1900rpm tongue.gif
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from my experiences, I would say..

Normal black fan will always perform better than hard plastic transparent fans..
even with the same rpm speed.. just my 2cents. blush.gif

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The fan on mine (Red Scorpion) spins at 1500rpm +/- 5%. verified in BIOS and ITE Smartguardian software.
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QUOTE(eimzic @ Mar 17 2008, 12:27 PM)
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i thought both also plastic right and both also hard right... so is there any significant diff???

imo the diff the both may be the rpm and blade design (the degree of curvature) and nothing to do with the material fan...

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QUOTE(Eoma @ Mar 17 2008, 12:51 PM)
The fan on mine (Red Scorpion) spins at 1500rpm +/- 5%. verified in BIOS and ITE Smartguardian software.
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1.5k is max already.... u can calibrate ur fan speed with ur mobo software for example mine gigabyte is using easytune5

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QUOTE(Eoma @ Mar 17 2008, 12:51 PM)
The fan on mine (Red Scorpion) spins at 1500rpm +/- 5%. verified in BIOS and ITE Smartguardian software.
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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 17 2008, 12:54 PM)
1.5k is max already.... u can calibrate ur fan speed with ur mobo software for example mine gigabyte is using easytune5
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Eh? So which one is correct regarding the new fan? 99cfm or 61cfm? rclxub.gif

So, the new fan runs max at 1500rpm..... hmmm..... should be 61cfm then.... hmm.gif

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 17 2008, 01:10 PM)
Eh? So which one is correct regarding the new fan? 99cfm or lower?  rclxub.gif
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red scorpion fan is 1.5k rev/min... confirm and checked many times already...
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 17 2008, 01:10 PM)
Eh? So which one is correct regarding the new fan? 99cfm or 61cfm?  rclxub.gif

So, the new fan runs max at 1500rpm..... hmmm..... should be 61cfm then....  hmm.gif
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cant confirm coz we dont have proper tools to measure it.... >_<"
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QUOTE(eimzic @ Mar 17 2008, 12:14 AM)
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u using Asus mobo right?
the bios always has problem reading the correct temperature.
pls use core temp to show us the temp tongue.gif

QUOTE(ckhoong @ Mar 17 2008, 12:32 AM)
LOL... must be something wrong  laugh.gif  sweat.gif
anyway

@AceCombact... 2nd batch xigma cooler's fin doesn't soldered to the heat pipe,
manufacture has applied something to the fins n heatpipes, tighten them up

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bro,tell moar!!!!
what is the thing that tighten the fin and the heat pipe?
if like that as what u said,no doubt it will have better performance than previous version.





as for the fan speed,dont use CPU fan socket to adjust the fan speed,if u really want to know the fastest fan speed of the fan,plug the fan to ur other 3 pin there and it will run at full speed.
the first model of the black fan can spin up to 2k RPM with promising air flow.
try it out guys.
put the red scorpion fan at ur chassis fan socket or anywhere as long as not in the PWM of the fan socket by the CPU.
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Mar 17 2008, 02:31 PM)
u using Asus mobo right?
the bios always has problem reading the correct temperature.
pls use core temp to show us the temp tongue.gif
aiyo, sumua orang pun tamau percaye ke.. sweat.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/483850/+717#

ini bila tak pasang aircond.
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Mar 17 2008, 02:31 PM)
u using Asus mobo right?
the bios always has problem reading the correct temperature.
pls use core temp to show us the temp tongue.gif
he is inside aircon room la.... maybe full power aircon d... at stockspeed 1.86ghz and VID 1.00v with eist on, no problem la... summore got DIY fan blowing it... LOL... next time we must buy the big fan which the medium class kopitiam have 1... big big 1 blow on it.... then put it in freezer.... wonder who can do that..... hehe but very dangerous oh....


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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Mar 17 2008, 02:31 PM)
as for the fan speed,dont use CPU fan socket to adjust the fan speed,if u really want to know the fastest fan speed of the fan,plug the fan to ur other 3 pin there and it will run at full speed.
the first model of the black fan can spin up to 2k RPM with promising air flow.
try it out guys.
put the red scorpion fan at ur chassis fan socket or anywhere as long as not in the PWM of the fan socket by the CPU.
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1,500rpm + lor... cant reach 1.6k... as for gigabyte 1 can control the CPU PWM so i can adjust it with eztune5.... here is what i do to get max speed

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Can somebody compare it with the thermalright cooler?
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QUOTE(justin78 @ Mar 17 2008, 06:12 PM)
Can somebody compare it with the thermalright cooler?
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do u have any thermaltake cooler?? maybe if u borrow us 1 then maybe we can do it... biggrin.gif

u can try to use thermaltake cooler and post the result here to compare... if u dont have then borrow 1 from ur fren or go buy 1.... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(eimzic @ Mar 17 2008, 12:27 PM)
from my experiences, I would say..

Normal black fan will always perform better than hard plastic transparent fans..
even with the same rpm speed.. just my 2cents.  blush.gif


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erm bro.... u suck air from heatsink instead of blowing on it n still works as good? hmm.gif

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i have Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme with me now,who wan to send me his Red Scorpion? brows.gif
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Mar 17 2008, 06:48 PM)
i have Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme with me now,who wan to send me his Red Scorpion? brows.gif
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Wooah! Somebody is offering to do the comparison now, TS and acecombat can now work together to find out the temperature results.
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QUOTE(justin78 @ Mar 17 2008, 07:04 PM)
Wooah! Somebody is offering to do the comparison now, TS and acecombat can now work together to find out the temperature results.
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actually there's a review bout TRUE vs s1283 already but its not red scorpion though tongue.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/505409
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QUOTE(justin78 @ Mar 17 2008, 07:04 PM)
Wooah! Somebody is offering to do the comparison now, TS and acecombat can now work together to find out the temperature results.
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cannot do like this.
review hardwares must be all teh same hardwares in order to get most accurated reading tongue.gif
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Mar 17 2008, 07:49 PM)
cannot do like this.
review hardwares must be all teh same hardwares in order to get most accurated reading tongue.gif
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at least something right... better than nothing.... laugh.gif

i also wanna see how is the performance of ultra.... when can post bro??
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 17 2008, 08:50 PM)
at least something right... better than nothing.... laugh.gif

i also wanna see how is the performance of ultra.... when can post bro??
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Just imagine after the comparison done and (if) find out that the Red Scorpion is better than the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme.........Sure the sale of Red Scorpion will fly sky high.

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Ultra has to lapped one in order to perform something brows.gif
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I think xigmatek also can be lapped, i saw one forumer done it before when he wanna sell off his S1283, but forget who liao... anyhow, who's up here wanna try lapping the heatsink??
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QUOTE(justin78 @ Mar 17 2008, 09:01 PM)
Just imagine after the comparison done and (if) find out that the Red Scorpion is better than the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme.........Sure the sale of Red Scorpion will fly sky high.
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read from coolaler forum there, TR Ultra 120 Extreme still perform better. But in term of CP, sure red scorpion better. laugh.gif

QUOTE(Downcast @ Mar 17 2008, 10:42 PM)
I think xigmatek also can be lapped, i saw one forumer done it before when he wanna sell off his S1283, but forget who liao... anyhow, who's up here wanna try lapping the heatsink??
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lap the cooler will void the warranty... I might do it if the warranty was expire... wink.gif
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QUOTE(Downcast @ Mar 17 2008, 10:42 PM)
I think xigmatek also can be lapped, i saw one forumer done it before when he wanna sell off his S1283, but forget who liao... anyhow, who's up here wanna try lapping the heatsink??
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I don't think it's going to be easy to lap the xigmatek. That's because you won't be able to lap an even surface, seeing that the aluminium plates are between the copper heatpipes.... if you only lap the copper heatpipes, then the aluminium plates will be protruding out.... however slightly it may be, if you know what I mean.....
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I don't think it's going to be easy to lap the xigmatek. That's because you won't be able to lap an even surface, seeing that the aluminium plates are between the copper heatpipes.... if you only lap the copper heatpipes, then the aluminium plates will be protruding out.... however slightly it may be, if you know what I mean.....
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i didn't face any difficulties while lapping my xigmatek (i tried that on two xigmatek tongue.gif)
Just make sure you lap it on flat surface.
The temperature dropped a bit after lapping. smile.gif
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Mar 17 2008, 11:08 PM)
i didn't face any difficulties while lapping my xigmatek (i tried that on two xigmatek tongue.gif)
Just make sure you lap it on flat surface.
The temperature dropped a bit after lapping.  smile.gif
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how lil bro?? 1, 5, degree? if really can lap i also wanna try bro.... but the surface isnt really like flat due to the pipe and not like regular heatsink surface... u get what i mean??

any tips on how u did it??
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Mar 17 2008, 10:49 PM)
read from coolaler forum there, TR Ultra 120 Extreme still perform better. But in term of CP, sure red scorpion better. laugh.gif
lap the cooler will void the warranty... I might do it if the warranty was expire... wink.gif
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actually im still wondering what kind of warranty do this xigmatek give for thier cooler??? the heatsink wont spoil rite?? unless u physical dmg it... izzit the warranty for the fan??


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how lil bro?? 1, 5, degree? if really can lap i also wanna try bro.... but the surface isnt really like flat due to the pipe and not like regular heatsink surface... u get what i mean??

any tips on how u did it??
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hmm im interested to know how the whole process of lapping is done... i know using sand papers to do it but no idea what to used to do it... i hope he enlighten me/us for the xigmatek....


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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 17 2008, 11:54 PM)

hmm im interested to know how the whole process of lapping is done... i know using sand papers to do it but no idea what to used to do it... i hope he enlighten me/us for the xigmatek....
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this thread might help.... although this is not on how to lap on direct touch heatpipe laugh.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/363027


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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Mar 18 2008, 12:03 AM)
this thread might help.... although this is not on how to lap on direct touch heatpipe laugh.gif

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huhu ARIGATO GOZAIMASU!!.. what about xigmatek s1283 lapping process?? hehe got tutorial? coz they are diff for the base... harder to lap it...

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here is some pics for u guys....

to push the performance of the xigmatek red scorpion i went and test it with my proc which i oc from 3.15 (450x7) to 3.22 (460x7) with stock vcore (1.32V)... this time i tried it without the fan and compare it with the fan at full blast (around 1510rpm)... to clarify things, the test is run in room temp (no air cond) and the setup was half naked.... enjoy the pics....


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the stress time might be too short (5 min) but i dont have the time to stress it longer... maybe when i have the time i'll do it but u guys can give it a try and post more result.... anyway when the scorpion with the fan off, the temp didnt exceed 67... it goes up and down but still at last remain at 67 degree (for the first 5 min)....

overall i would say that the xigmatek is just so awesome.... even without fan it still can perform quite well maybe due to the heat-pipe direct touch which has just proof its efficiency.... rclxms.gif icon_idea.gif rclxm9.gif

im hoping to see some result for those who wanna lap or already lap their xigamatek cooler.... smile.gif

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bro try to stress for longer period.... 5minutes is a little bit short....

last time i bench me E6750 @3.0ghz vs @3.2ghz on full load... with 3.0ghz finish run prime95 FFT 8k finish while 3.2ghz only run abour 30%(test 5/14) and both temp is the same at 54'c... thats why i retest it and update the review.. tongue.gif... actually its at 56'c for 3.2ghz intead of 54
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see post #540

I used grit 1500 and 2000 sandpaper for that. nod.gif
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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 18 2008, 02:51 AM)
bro try to stress for longer period.... 5minutes is a little bit short....

last time i bench me E6750 @3.0ghz vs @3.2ghz on full load... with 3.0ghz finish run prime95 FFT 8k finish while 3.2ghz only run abour 30%(test 5/14) and both temp is the same at 54'c... thats why i retest it and update the review.. tongue.gif... actually its at 56'c for 3.2ghz intead of 54
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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 18 2008, 02:51 AM)
bro try to stress for longer period.... 5minutes is a little bit short....

last time i bench me E6750 @3.0ghz vs @3.2ghz on full load... with 3.0ghz finish run prime95 FFT 8k finish while 3.2ghz only run abour 30%(test 5/14) and both temp is the same at 54'c... thats why i retest it and update the review.. tongue.gif... actually its at 56'c for 3.2ghz intead of 54
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i wanted to stress longer but no time.... when i have the time i surely will push harder and see how... i believe the scorpion can do it even without fan....
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Mar 18 2008, 11:44 AM)
Is it ur idle or partially load temp? It seems like high fsb also translates to high cpu temp....
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haha just forget it.. anyway refer to 1st 5 post and u will know the temperature..... already corrected..

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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Mar 17 2008, 09:39 PM)
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 17 2008, 11:03 PM)
I don't think it's going to be easy to lap the xigmatek. That's because you won't be able to lap an even surface, seeing that the aluminium plates are between the copper heatpipes.... if you only lap the copper heatpipes, then the aluminium plates will be protruding out.... however slightly it may be, if you know what I mean.....
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QUOTE(tapirus @ Mar 18 2008, 01:29 PM)
that true what u said..ultra really need to lapped...it got very bad base..cpz not rata...i test on mirror it became like buaian... brows.gif my ultra lay down almost 1 week for lapped..but still not start yet..waiting for lapping machine at lab free 1st... tongue.gif
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wooh..u sing lab machine?erm izzit flat surface?coz at my shcool oso got..but not flat surface as the sandin belt keep movin sweat.gif
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actually i wanna try to lap it my previous S1283,but what come in my mind is.
the DHT copper base,how thick is it?if lap until bocoh then i sweat.gif

heat pipe is quite thin and not as thick as the copper base like ordinary hsf using one,get my point?
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Mar 18 2008, 04:41 PM)
actually i wanna try to lap it my previous S1283,but what come in my mind is.
the DHT copper base,how thick is it?if lap until bocoh then i sweat.gif

heat pipe is quite thin and not as thick as the copper base like ordinary hsf using one,get my point?
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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 18 2008, 05:03 PM)
8mm thick??minus the cut off shud be left 5-6mm i guess.. wont bocor so ezly la... hahaa
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i thought 8mm is the whole pipe right... but at the bottom i believe its less than 8mm coz its like thinner right....

btw if i lap my scorpion shouldnt i lap my proc too?? or not only one surface is flat only (heatsink) then my proc still not smooth right...
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 18 2008, 07:51 PM)
i thought 8mm is the whole pipe right... but at the bottom i believe its less than 8mm coz its like thinner right....

btw if i lap my scorpion shouldnt i lap my proc too?? or not only one surface is flat only (heatsink) then my proc still not smooth right...
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lol tats why i mention 8mm and after cut off is 5-6mm la... doh.gif doh.gif

lap both will yield a better result but dont forget once u lap any of them = void warranty...

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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 18 2008, 07:59 PM)
lol tats why i mention 8mm and after cut off is 5-6mm la...  doh.gif  doh.gif

lap both will yield a better result but dont forget once u lap any of them = void warranty...
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eh... i thought u said after lapping... my bad.....

but how thick is the proc?? the heatsink dont bocor also later the proc bocor then sweat.gif

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i do believe is 8mm is the diameter of the heatpipe not the thickness...
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bro,tell moar!!!!
what is the thing that tighten the fin and the heat pipe?
if like that as what u said,no doubt it will have better performance than previous version.

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haha.. wouldn't see any much difference for performance.. the main concern is to tighten the fin nod.gif sweat.gif

QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 18 2008, 05:03 PM)
8mm thick??minus the cut off shud be left 5-6mm i guess.. wont bocor so ezly la... hahaa
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this recall me back.. manufacture told me be4 xigma's heatpipes polished to flat for HDT while HaiNan really cut the heat-pipes one..
i ask them again for confirmation..

btw, inside heat-pipe got liquid one.. cant say still got 5 to 6mm thick left sweat.gif
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Just imagine after the comparison done and (if) find out that the Red Scorpion is better than the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme.........Sure the sale of Red Scorpion will fly sky high.
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hmm sure marr, ppl love cheap hardware with decent performance
TRUE is good i must say but the it overpriced, IMO sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ckhoong @ Mar 18 2008, 08:32 PM)
haha.. wouldn't see any much difference for performance.. the main concern is to tighten the fin  nod.gif  sweat.gif 
this recall me back.. manufacture told me be4 xigma's heatpipes polished to flat for HDT while HaiNan really cut the heat-pipes one..
i ask them again for confirmation..

btw, inside heat-pipe got liquid one.. cant say still got 5 to 6mm thick left  sweat.gif
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aiks... got liquid 1 ah... hmm then will bocoooooor... haha.... better becareful...
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the only thing i worry if i lap s1283 is the copper pipe loose from the alluminium base. sweat.gif

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the only thing i worry if i lap s1283 is the copper pipe loose from the alluminium base. sweat.gif
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You thought they use normal glue? doh.gif
I lapped two xigmatek with 1500 and 2000 grit sandpaper, the heatpipe still attached to the aluminium firmly. whistling.gif
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this one cannot fit into normal atx casing...need to buy server casing one... blush.gif
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QUOTE(Tanakwagu_noh @ Mar 18 2008, 10:20 PM)
this one cannot fit into normal atx casing...need to buy server casing one... blush.gif
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this cooler will fit most of the atx casings.
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my Xigmatek s1283 just arrive today..but not the red Red-Scorpion one..
this is the previous xigmatek s1283..
very happy cause it perform better than my stock intel cooler..(sure everyone know bout this la)..

previous setup with stock cooler
O`c test result : max temp- around 65`c

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only some smaller width casing cannot use... other than that it shudnt be a problem.... this is also 1 of the problem for being too big.. hehe... its stated in te CONS of the review... not very casing friendly..

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QUOTE(fesick @ Mar 18 2008, 10:45 PM)
my Xigmatek s1283 just arrive today..but not the red Red-Scorpion one..
this is the previous xigmatek s1283..
very happy cause it perform better than my stock intel cooler..(sure everyone know bout this la)..

previous setup with stock cooler
O`c test result : max  temp- around 65`c

after change to this xigmatek s1283
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sorry..only short test..
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nice OC result there... bro is this in aircond room? maybe we can ask ham_revilo to test in similar settings to compare red scorpion with this s1283 brows.gif
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ya..in aircond room..
if without aircond turn on..the temp r around 57-59c max

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yup,Xigmatek heat pipe inside is using liquid,not like the Enzotech Ultra-X which using powder.

anyway,8mm is the diameter,not the thickness,the thickness will be less than 3mm,if u lap it too much,surely the base will bocor.

for those who wan to lap the hsf base and the proc IHS,it's better to use S&S kit to make sure more pressure contacted to each surface after lapped,cause after lapped,the surface become thinner and the pushpin might have not enough pressure when contacted.
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Guys will there be any difference if i put my thermal paste directly on my procs rather than on the cooler it self...
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QUOTE(fuzore @ Mar 19 2008, 09:31 AM)
Guys will there be any difference if i put my thermal paste directly on my procs rather than on the cooler it self...
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shud be the same if u do it correctly
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Mar 18 2008, 10:09 PM)
You thought they use normal glue?  doh.gif
I lapped two xigmatek with 1500 and 2000 grit sandpaper, the heatpipe still attached to the aluminium firmly.  whistling.gif
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so that means u also lapped the xigmatek that i bought from u rite???
no wonder the heatpipes surface is so smooth tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Mar 19 2008, 12:54 PM)
so that means u also lapped the xigmatek that i bought from u rite???
no wonder the heatpipes surface is so smooth tongue.gif
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you just realised kar? sweat.gif
the original surface where got so smooth one? doh.gif
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Mar 19 2008, 01:48 PM)
you just realised kar?  sweat.gif
the original surface where got so smooth one?  doh.gif
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huhu, that's why the temp drop between my lapped tt bt vx and my s1283 is so big.. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Mar 19 2008, 01:48 PM)
you just realised kar?  sweat.gif
the original surface where got so smooth one?  doh.gif
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too bad u in johor.. else ask will ask u do lapping service for me... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 19 2008, 03:06 PM)
too bad u in johor.. else ask will ask u do lapping service for me... tongue.gif
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where r going to sukhoi?
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where r going to sukhoi?
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Cannot tell. tongue.gif

It's offtopic already.

Let's get back to the discussion.
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QUOTE(fuzore @ Mar 19 2008, 09:31 AM)
Guys will there be any difference if i put my thermal paste directly on my procs rather than on the cooler it self...
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i did that on my proc IHS n i still do get the same temp drop like everybody else smile.gif
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Mar 19 2008, 07:23 PM)
i did that on my proc IHS n i still do get the same temp drop like everybody else  smile.gif
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vincent, i guess the temp is still the same and doesnt exceed 67 just like i tried before even if put it for almost an hour... thumbup.gif

but i notice that the scorpion fin has became hot when i touch it... besides that i think that the s-1283 can perform better during higher temp coz when i increase the vcore the temp still doesnt exceed 67 and at certain time the temp will decrease but too bad pc bsod due to unstable clock before i can take a snap... sweat.gif


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Just to add my results with the Red Scorpion:


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More or less tallies with the other results in the thread. What can I say, a good performer, and a silent one at that. Recommended !

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any quad user post the results? especially q6600 G0..
really thinking to grab this jengking merah.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 18 2008, 01:44 AM)
here is some pics for u guys....

to push the performance of the xigmatek red scorpion i went and test it with my proc which i oc from 3.15 (450x7) to 3.22 (460x7) with stock vcore (1.32V)... this time i tried it without the fan and compare it with the fan at full blast (around 1510rpm)... to clarify things, the test is run in room temp (no air cond) and the setup was half naked.... enjoy the pics....
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fan is on with full force
the stress time might be too short (5 min) but i dont have the time to stress it longer... maybe when i have the time i'll do it but u guys can give it a try and post more result.... anyway when the scorpion with the fan off, the temp didnt exceed 67... it goes up and down but still at last remain at 67 degree (for the first 5 min)....

overall i would say that the xigmatek is just so awesome.... even without fan it still can perform quite well maybe due to the heat-pipe direct touch which has just proof its efficiency....  rclxms.gif icon_idea.gif  rclxm9.gif

im hoping to see some result for those who wanna lap or already lap their xigamatek cooler.... smile.gif
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hi man ur {temp3} -2c ? u know is wis part ? y me 80c so high ?????

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QUOTE(ask8900 @ Mar 20 2008, 12:38 AM)
hi man ur {temp3} -2c ? u know is wis part ? y me 80c so high ?????
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i think that is a bug.... impossible there will be -2c while i run it in room temp... if u use coretemp then u will see there is one part 100c want.... so dont worry bout it...

i use speed fan to show my fan speed only.... dont really care what the temp shows as i use everest to monitor my temp...
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any quad user post the results? especially q6600 G0..
really thinking to grab this jengking merah.. tongue.gif
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Anyone that has a E8400 and red scorpion heatsink? How is the performance?
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QUOTE(tyss @ Mar 20 2008, 08:43 AM)
Anyone that has  a E8400 and red scorpion heatsink?  How is the performance?
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bro refer to tkh post.... i think its on the 1st page... biggrin.gif

dont worry la... the scorpion can performce very well and its very quiet too... there is no reason doubting the scorpion as imo it can handle high temp easily......

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QUOTE(tyss @ Mar 20 2008, 08:43 AM)
Anyone that has  a E8400 and red scorpion heatsink?  How is the performance?
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this heatsink can easily gives u around 20c temp drop comparing with intel stock heatsink flex.gif but it also depends on ur ambient temp n ventilation in ur casing smile.gif

btw...my test result was in an aircond room which normally gives u around 5c improvement in a closed casing tongue.gif
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The everest showing
core1: 70
core2:70
cpu: 60
vcore: 1.312
at full load while running prime with s1283 red scorpion. Something is wrong?

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QUOTE(tyss @ Mar 20 2008, 05:01 PM)
The everest showing
core1: 70
core2:70
cpu: 60
vcore: 1.312
at  full load  while running prime with s1283 red scorpion. Something is wrong?
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nope..nothg is wrong... e8400 dont have correct reading for its core temp.... u can use REAL TEMP for a more accurate reading smile.gif
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QUOTE(xen0 @ Mar 20 2008, 12:01 AM)
any quad user post the results? especially q6600 G0..
really thinking to grab this jengking merah.. tongue.gif
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will try to post some test result when i put it in the rig this sunday perhaps......
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QUOTE(ir1z @ Mar 20 2008, 05:15 PM)
will try to post some test result when i put it in the rig this sunday perhaps......
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dude i thought u bought it for quite some time.... y dont u post some result already... having difficulties putting into ur rig???

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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Mar 20 2008, 05:07 PM)
nope..nothg is wrong... e8400 dont have correct reading for its core temp.... u can use REAL TEMP for a more accurate reading smile.gif
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looks like 5c reading gap between both

so real temp more accurate?

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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 20 2008, 05:42 PM)
dude i thought u bought it for quite some time.... y dont u post some result already... having difficulties putting into ur rig???
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QUOTE(xen0 @ Mar 20 2008, 05:56 PM)
looks like 5c reading gap between both

so real temp more accurate?
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well..not really sure for 65nm... but for 45nm we have around 10c difference... n this software have to be calibrated 1st on idle before use.... there are some rumours saying that "core temp" is not that accurate though hmm.gif
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Mar 20 2008, 06:17 PM)
well..not really sure for 65nm... but for 45nm we have around 10c difference... n this software have to be calibrated 1st on idle before use.... there are some rumours saying that "core temp" is not that accurate though hmm.gif
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i read the last post of the forum..

looks like core temp 0.97.1 read the same temp like real temp2.21

but i tested on my rig.. new version of core temp still hv different reading tho..5c different unsure.gif

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ur real temp is oso showing a 5C difference in the TjMax xeno
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QUOTE(xen0 @ Mar 20 2008, 06:20 PM)
i read the last post of the forum..

looks like core temp 0.97.1 read the same temp like real temp2.21

but i tested on my rig.. new version of core temp still hv different reading tho..5c different  unsure.gif
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i tried with the 0.97 coretemp as well n the reading is still the same as 0.96...so i guess no improvement over the new version then.... but actually there are no software that can really give us a definite accurate reading... back then when i was still on 65nm i always use EVEREST for all my temp monitoring thumbup.gif

we are getting out of topic already tongue.gif let's get back with more benchies..come on ppl !! go n get ur self POISONED biggrin.gif
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I would like to ask that "Centurion 5 (CAC-T05)" this casing fit for the red scorpion?

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QUOTE(maxz663 @ Mar 20 2008, 09:10 PM)
I would like to ask that "Centurion 5 (CAC-T05)" this casing fit for the red scorpion?
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bro, it fits just nice la... my casing a lil smaller than u also can fit in la... as long u are using a ATX casing it will be okay... if cant fit then just dont close ur side window la but ur comfirm can fit... so its time u go get one and show us some pics... smile.gif
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 20 2008, 09:38 PM)
bro, it fits just nice la... my casing a lil smaller than u also can fit in la... as long u are using a ATX casing it will be okay... if cant fit then just dont close ur side window la but ur comfirm can fit... so its time u go get one and show us some pics...  smile.gif
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lol constantly poisoning ppl... >_<".... CM C5 shud be okay la...
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wow 10 pages already

by the way the red scorpion really kick ass
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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 21 2008, 02:43 AM)
lol constantly poisoning ppl... >_<".... CM C5 shud be okay la...
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not should okay.. is confirm can lar.. this is my previous CM 5 fit with S1283

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confirm can close ur side panel window as well... so no problem with this casing...
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guys is there anyone here using the same procs(look at my siggy) as mine using this red scorpion want to compare temp....
my casing is centurion 5 want to change to 690 but no stock now...
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QUOTE(Eoma @ Mar 19 2008, 11:58 PM)
Just to add my results with the Red Scorpion:
@ Idle (~5 minutes into boot)
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More or less tallies with the other results in the thread. What can I say, a good performer, and a silent one at that. Recommended !
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bro, wat voltage in bios reading? jus wanna compare since Iam using an E6600 as well, thanks.. and for the rest, when U guys show the temps, pls include how much U put the vcore In bios reading, I guess it's necessarily an important thing to be told.
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QUOTE(emilz @ Mar 21 2008, 04:36 AM)
wow 10 pages already

by the way the red scorpion really kick ass
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QUOTE(Downcast @ Mar 21 2008, 10:42 AM)
not should okay.. is confirm can lar.. this is my previous CM 5 fit with S1283

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confirm can close ur side panel window as well... so no problem with this casing...
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bro, u should go for the red scorpion la.... i bet it would be more matching with red in color MSI mobo... laugh.gif



QUOTE(anggajaya @ Mar 21 2008, 11:49 AM)
bro, wat voltage in bios reading? jus wanna compare since Iam using an E6600 as well, thanks.. and for the rest, when U guys show the temps, pls include how much U put the vcore In bios reading, I guess it's necessarily an important thing to be told.
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bro i have tried as high as 1.4v and temp doesnt go any higher than 60... average is around 55-60 on load but seldomly reach 60c....

btw im using e6550 and i think the scorpion perform better during high temp thats y even u put high vcore also wont matter... xigmatek rocks rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 21 2008, 03:19 PM)

bro, u should go for the red scorpion la.... i bet it would be more matching with red in color MSI mobo...  laugh.gif

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QUOTE(anggajaya @ Mar 21 2008, 11:49 AM)
bro, wat voltage in bios reading? jus wanna compare since Iam using an E6600 as well, thanks.. and for the rest, when U guys show the temps, pls include how much U put the vcore In bios reading, I guess it's necessarily an important thing to be told.
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Bios is +37.5mV, so it is 1.325v + 0.0375V = 1.3625v
cpuID shows it as 1.360v

@ Load it drops to 1.340v (cpuID value).
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hello guys...

can this Xigmatek s1283 Red-Scorpion fit on asus p5e mobo and will it fit inside cm elite 333? i'm planning to buy this red scorpion brows.gif
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QUOTE(JohnDoe86 @ Mar 22 2008, 12:06 AM)
hello guys...

can this Xigmatek s1283 Red-Scorpion fit on asus p5e mobo and will it fit inside cm elite 333? i'm planning to buy this red scorpion  brows.gif
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hmm the clearance of red-scorpion shud be ~40mm(from base of mobo)... so if ur Asus p5e heatsink height around the processor is below ~37mm(from base of mobo, not NB heatsink height) then shud be no problem... not that my gigabyte do have quite high NB heatsink too but no chance to touch at all... elite 333 is about the same as C5 rite... shudnt be a problem too... but its better to ask others too

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yesterday night i make test again
start at 11.58pm,i leave my pc and go baring² but suddenly i fall asleep tongue.gif

ok the result different as b4..where my temp is around 55c(aircon on) on my previous test
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after this i`ll test without aircon and see hows the temperature..
but its not fair cause maybe next time i ady change the tim inside..
currently using capkucing t. compound..

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QUOTE(fesick @ Mar 22 2008, 06:44 AM)
yesterday night i make test again
start at 11.58pm,i leave my pc and go baring² but suddenly i fall asleep  tongue.gif

ok the result different as b4..where my temp is around 55c(aircon on) on my previous test
and here the new one

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after this i`ll test without aircon and see hows the temperature..
but its not fair cause maybe next time i ady change the tim inside..
currently using capkucing t. compound..
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bro, damn nice clock though... temp look good too... laugh.gif

btw, what RAM are u using and how much vcore u using??
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ram?u can see from my 1st test..
i use c.ballistix 2x2ram
vcore 1.35 on bios then it drop on load..
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QUOTE(fesick @ Mar 22 2008, 08:25 AM)
ram?u can see from my 1st test..
i use c.ballistix 2x2ram
vcore 1.35 on bios then it drop on load..
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@fesick ~ nice result u got there mate

ham_revilo~have u increase ur ram Voltage n how bout ur timing
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From all those good result shown by you all, I think I will get myself 1 unit of Scorpion and test it out, but this can only be done next month, this month already over spend.
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QUOTE(emilz @ Mar 22 2008, 10:07 PM)
@fesick ~ nice result u got there mate

ham_revilo~have u increase ur ram Voltage n how bout ur timing
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QUOTE(justin78 @ Mar 23 2008, 02:17 AM)
From all those good result shown by you all, I think I will get myself 1 unit of Scorpion and test it out, but this can only be done next month, this month already over spend.
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better be fast... laugh.gif

anyways if can get the scorpion though rather then the plain vanilla s-1283... brows.gif
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QUOTE(justin78 @ Mar 23 2008, 02:17 AM)
From all those good result shown by you all, I think I will get myself 1 unit of Scorpion and test it out, but this can only be done next month, this month already over spend.
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better u ask ckhooong reserve one for u...just saw his thread n he is running out of scorpions soon already tongue.gif

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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Mar 23 2008, 03:22 AM)
better u ask ckhooong reserve one for u...just saw his thread n he is running out of scorpions soon already tongue.gif
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ya that is super fast... 1 week habis... haha
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ya...thanks to ur review thumbup.gif
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not really my review la... laugh.gif ... coz its a good cooler and we have a good seller too.. hehe
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yaa lorr....u bettter go and book. its depleting like like pizza on a pizza plate......
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QUOTE(ir1z @ Mar 23 2008, 07:04 AM)
yaa lorr....u bettter go and book. its depleting like like pizza on a pizza plate......
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REALLY? then I better act fast now, if not sure I regret.

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shocking.gif
REALLY?  then I better act fast now, if not sure I regret.
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its extremely true... ckhoong already announce the limited stocks already now... and he wont be bulking until furthur notice after stock finish up.... so its like get now or get much later

NOTE: if u all happen to find some review site (ENGLISH!) about red scorpion, kindly share it here so we can read it... and i can updated the link in the 1st post... so far i've found the review but its not in english... >_<"

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Im plugging the Coolermaster 110CFM on my coming Xigmatech. Lets see how nice it is? drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Mar 23 2008, 01:48 PM)
Im plugging the Coolermaster 110CFM on my coming Xigmatech. Lets see how nice it is?  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Mar 23 2008, 01:48 PM)
Im plugging the Coolermaster 110CFM on my coming Xigmatech. Lets see how nice it is?  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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wow... good setup bro thumbup.gif we will be waiting for ur benchies then... stock fan vs high CFM fans rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Mar 23 2008, 01:48 PM)
Im plugging the Coolermaster 110CFM on my coming Xigmatech. Lets see how nice it is?  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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Post some screenies pleeaseee drool.gif
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anyway care to explain whats the use of the fin? should i use it or not

ive just dimantled my whole pc damn there lots of junk in there..............hahaha now adding more junk in it hahaha.....

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QUOTE(ir1z @ Mar 23 2008, 04:12 PM)
anyway care to explain whats the use of the fin? should i use it or not

ive just dimantled my whole pc damn there lots of junk in there..............hahaha  now adding more junk in it hahaha.....
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the fin is for directing the some amount of air downward to ur to cool ur mobo chipset or something like that tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Mar 23 2008, 05:46 PM)
the fin is for directing the some amount of air downward to ur to cool ur mobo chipset or something like that  tongue.gif
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yeap.... if going for OC, should be good for the fin to direct some air flow towards ur mobo chip located near PROC... =P
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QUOTE(ir1z @ Mar 23 2008, 04:12 PM)
anyway care to explain whats the use of the fin? should i use it or not

ive just dimantled my whole pc damn there lots of junk in there..............hahaha  now adding more junk in it hahaha.....
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QUOTE(Downcast @ Mar 23 2008, 06:10 PM)
yeap.... if going for OC, should be good for the fin to direct some air flow towards ur mobo chip located near PROC... =P
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pls post some pics to show off its poison... laugh.gif

some screen shot on its performance too will be better... brows.gif
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QUOTE(ir1z @ Mar 23 2008, 04:12 PM)
anyway care to explain whats the use of the fin? should i use it or not

ive just dimantled my whole pc damn there lots of junk in there..............hahaha  now adding more junk in it hahaha.....
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you mean the spoiler right?
it's useful for hot mosfet on some mobos like my abit IP35E and IX38 QuadGT.
the temperature passive heatsink can reach 110C very easily during load. doh.gif

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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Mar 23 2008, 09:04 PM)
you mean the spoiler right?
it's useful for hot mosfet on some mobos like my abit IP35E and IX38 QuadGT.
the temperature passive heatsink can reach 110C very easily during load.  doh.gif
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110c ? above boiling point ? I think you need to recheck your figures.
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hahha OCed my Q6600 @ 3.6Ghz using vcore at 1.525v getting full load (use OCCT) max temp at 76C compared to last time 90C very good indeed.........will try post some pics later

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QUOTE(ir1z @ Mar 23 2008, 10:04 PM)
hahha OCed my Q6600 @ 3.6Ghz using vcore at 1.525v getting full load (use OCCT) max temp at 76C compared to last time 90C very good indeed.........will try post some pics later
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wat the... are u craZ to go 90'C or 76'c?? 90'c shud be in dead zone while 76'c in danger zone.... shud avoid that.. unless u plan to get new proc
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hahaha dont worry thats when it is at full load.....when on earth do you ever use ur pc to full 4 cores at 100% as i dont do folding by the way

im currently running on a daily basis start now at 3.6Ghz using vcore 1.5v temp at idle is core 1-4 = 44C cpu showing 31C........

manage to get stable at 1.5vcore now at load down to 70C max

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QUOTE(Eoma @ Mar 23 2008, 09:18 PM)
110c ? above boiling point ? I think you need to recheck your figures.
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bro, it's not only me got this figure.
i've seen other users got the same figure as well. (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/reviews/861-abit-ix38-quad-gt-living-review-ii.html)

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another succesful test result hahahha

using same 3.6 succesful with 1.475 vcore and 1.45v nb, my instability before this must have been due to my RAMS

got this result
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QUOTE(ir1z @ Mar 24 2008, 12:08 AM)
another succesful test result hahahha

using same 3.6 succesful with 1.475 vcore  and 1.45v nb, my instability before this must have been due to my RAMS

got this result
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in one of the CPU-Z.. u shud shown memory tab instead of SPD tab... >_<".... that doesnt really prove anythg bout the memory timing u use... doh.gif its okay since the Everest OSD already show
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hmm very nice temp.... show with coretemp also next time

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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 24 2008, 12:26 AM)
in one of the CPU-Z.. u shud shown memory tab instead of SPD tab... >_<".... that doesnt really prove anythg bout the memory timing u use...  doh.gif its okay since the Everest OSD already show
all.. tongue.gif

hmm very nice temp.... show with coretemp also next time
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hahha next time see lorrr..... i didnt put coz already available at the everest the RAM timings.

as for core tempt it shows the same temp as everst almost identical every time. so decide not to put it on. But i can tell u i have a vid of 1.3

p/s: i am in a air-conditioned room with temp at 23C on the remote but doubt it is accurate as my room has lots of holes on the top going out to the house balcony ( meaning it would be hotter than that )

might even be able to push this up a notch to 4.0Ghz maybe next try

some pics for u guys:
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QUOTE(ir1z @ Mar 24 2008, 12:39 AM)
hahha next time see lorrr..... i didnt put coz already available at the everest the RAM timings.

as for core tempt it shows the same temp as everst almost identical every time. so decide not to put it on. But i can tell u i have a vid of 1.3

p/s: i am in a air-conditioned room with temp at 23C on the remote but  doubt it is accurate as my room has lots of holes on the top going out to the  house balcony ( meaning it would be hotter than that )

might even be able to push this up a notch to 4.0Ghz maybe next try

some pics for u guys:
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Please update if you manage to push it all the way to 4.0GHz.
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wat is the price for tis cooler and where to get it ?
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i wonder, what is the performance difference between red scorpion and the s1283, since that they are both practically the same thing, with the exception of a higher rated cfm fan?

but afaik, the s1283 performance does not scale that well, probably 1~3c improvements on load when i strap on a 180cfm nmb screamer :S
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wat is the price for tis cooler and where to get it ?
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U can get all the infomation u want through this link :

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/483850
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QUOTE(ir1z @ Mar 24 2008, 12:39 AM)
hahha next time see lorrr..... i didnt put coz already available at the everest the RAM timings.

as for core tempt it shows the same temp as everst almost identical every time. so decide not to put it on. But i can tell u i have a vid of 1.3

p/s: i am in a air-conditioned room with temp at 23C on the remote but  doubt it is accurate as my room has lots of holes on the top going out to the  house balcony ( meaning it would be hotter than that )

might even be able to push this up a notch to 4.0Ghz maybe next try
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still acceptable for holes at the top since hot air rises and cool air falls so basically the hot air will flow out from ur room.. but yes it wont be as cold as sealed room with aircon.... but i guess with some holes on top for airflow is better too coz fresh air coming in..

really nice temp there... 23'c.. how i wish i can get that..... how about full load?... pushing Q6600 to 4ghz is too extreme since the voltage for even 3.6 is in danger zone already...

im sry this post really out of topic... forgive me

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my temp readings are not at 23C lorr vincent.......i state that is the celcius setting on my air cond. heheh u must have just miss read it. No harm done.

My full load setting is getting reading at 61-62C max. Idling at 35C
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my temp readings are not at 23C lorr vincent.......i state that is the celcius setting on my air cond. heheh u must have just miss read it. No harm done.

My full load setting is getting reading at 61-62C max. Idling at 35C
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ohya misread it... 23'c is for aircon temp.. haha i tot proc temp... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
dont go too far already la... the voltage will kill ur proc...
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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 24 2008, 05:03 PM)
still acceptable for holes at the top since hot air rises and cool air falls so basically the hot air will flow out from ur room.. but yes it wont be as cold as sealed room with aircon.... but i guess with some holes on top for airflow is better too coz fresh air coming in..

really nice temp there... 23'c.. how i wish i can get that..... how about full load?... pushing Q6600 to 4ghz is too extreme since the voltage for even 3.6 is in danger zone already...

im sry this post really out of topic... forgive me
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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 24 2008, 06:12 PM)
ohya misread it... 23'c is for aircon temp.. haha i tot proc temp...  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
dont go too far already la... the voltage will kill ur proc...
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temps would probably hit the high 70's if not low 70's at that sort of speed smile.gif

my quad at 3.8ghz 1.45v is already spewing 66c on water using prime, ambient is 33c, and reservoir temps is 40c

so what say on air? brows.gif



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intel warranties their q6600 up to 1.5v, so go have fun biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Mar 24 2008, 07:46 PM)
temps would probably hit the high 70's if not low 70's at that sort of speed smile.gif
do you mean that "at that sort of speed" on 3.6 or 4.0 Ghz as mine at 3.6 dont even reach 70C if 4.0Ghz should easily reach that though

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my quad at 3.8ghz 1.45v is already spewing 66c on water using prime, ambient is 33c, and reservoir temps is 40c
so what say on air? brows.gif
@ir1z
intel warranties their q6600 up to 1.5v, so go have fun biggrin.gif
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r u using the same q6600 bryan? i have set mine at 1.475vcore getting idle 35C-38C load 61-65C this is on air yaa using the red scorpion..........
will push the proc more but not now.wait the thermal paste fully settle down another day or two.

p/s: havent dont the pencil mod yet. Will do that oso nanti. current vid at 1.300v

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Need help on the red scorpion,
I installed it on my rig and am still getting very high temps ...details as below.
Rig details....
Processor E6750 @ 2.66Ghz at 1.35 Vcore
Mobo Gigabyte P35 DS3 (Bios F12) at stock voltages
Ram 2GB Patriot DDR2-800 (4-4-4-12 at 2.2V)
PSU Gigabyte Odin Pro 550W

I installed the Red Scorpion and have run the E6750 at 100% utilization both cores for
30 minutes a couple of times & the results are the same the CPU core temps is at 69 deg C
(temps using Everest Ultimate Edition).
The core temps during normal use (i.e. surfing, watching movies, etc) is between 45 to 50 deg C.

The red scorpion was installed using the spring & screw kit, the protective sticker was removed
and the enclosed thermal paste was used (thermal paste was applied on all 3 heat pipes).
All traces of old thermal paste was removed from the processor.

Based on the temps which are higher than I had using the stock intel cooler.......I definately have done
something wrong on the installation.

One thing I have noticed is that on my rig I have installed the fan perpendicular to the rams as opposed
to the pics posted by vincentlaw of his rig on the first page. Will this make a huge difference..??

Any ideas or suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks,
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u mean rite now ur HSF+fan are facing downwards is it? and not towards the rear? and another thing, u would be better off with current market thermal paste not the one they give in the box. Just my opinion though...
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yes.............currently my fan is facing downwards.
is this the wrong set up.....???

I was going to put aftermarket thermal paste but yesterday
all the computer shops near my area was closed.


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try to do exactly like the same way vincentlaw fixed his fan n then remount ur scorpion... btw... pls check for ur clearance between proc n heatsink... make sure the contact is good... cos the most likely problem will be ur contact as i have seen ppl using this heatsink without fan on a OCed setup n yet the temp is only around 65c

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hmm........there is no clearance between the heatsink & proc
basically I tightened the screws until it bottomed out on the motherboard
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it would be a better idea to put them facing the rear fan like what vincent and most of us others here do....
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bro, i have tried using the scorpion without fan and the temp is around 65-67...

in my opinion u didnt screw it properly... did u screw it equally?? i mean the 4 screw all going down at the same pace... u know what i mean??

or maybe u can try taking out the whole hsf and install it back... maybe in the process u did something wrong... so this time if u reinstalling the scorpion, try referring to vincent's guide...

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QUOTE(culain99 @ Mar 24 2008, 09:53 PM)
Need help on the red scorpion,
I installed it on my rig and am still getting very high temps ...details as below.
Rig details....
Processor E6750 @ 2.66Ghz at 1.35 Vcore
Mobo Gigabyte P35 DS3 (Bios F12) at stock voltages
Ram 2GB Patriot DDR2-800 (4-4-4-12 at 2.2V)
PSU Gigabyte Odin Pro 550W

I installed the Red Scorpion and have run the E6750 at 100% utilization both cores for
30 minutes a couple of times & the results are the same the CPU core temps is at 69 deg C
(temps using Everest Ultimate Edition).
The core temps during normal use (i.e. surfing, watching movies, etc) is between 45 to 50 deg C.

The red scorpion was installed using the spring & screw kit, the protective sticker was removed
and the enclosed thermal paste was used (thermal paste was applied on all 3 heat pipes).
All traces of old thermal paste was removed from the processor.

Based on the temps which are higher than I had using the stock intel cooler.......I definately have done
something wrong on the installation.

One thing I have noticed is that on my rig I have installed the fan perpendicular to the rams as opposed
to the pics posted by vincentlaw of his rig on the first page. Will this make a huge difference..??

Any ideas or suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks,
Culain
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Definitely something wrong.

My previous overclocked E6750 @ 3.5Ghz @ 1.400v (bios set) was only about 55'c max on full load (orthos), IIRC.....
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bro ham_revilo,

you might have a point. I cannot say I tightened all 4 screws at the same pace.
I did tighten them diagonally though.


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bro ham_revilo,

you might have a point. I cannot say I tightened all 4 screws at the same pace.
I did tighten them diagonally though.
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okay... so i guess problem solve.. laugh.gif

glad to hear from another scorpion user... and pls post some result though...
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hey guys.... new poison here... s1284 shocking.gif shocking.gif flex.gif
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hmm........there is no clearance between the heatsink & proc
basically I tightened the screws until it bottomed out on the motherboard
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bro u got apply thermal compound anot???? the small packet liquid thggie.. maybe u forgot that....
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bro u got apply thermal compound anot???? the small packet liquid thggie.. maybe u forgot that....
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he did if u read it all thru from top tongue.gif tongue.gif

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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Mar 24 2008, 11:12 PM)
hey guys.... new  poison here... s1284  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  flex.gif
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they squeez 4 8mm heatpipes on the heatsink base. thumbup.gif
cant wait to see it's performance.
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hey guys.... new  poison here... s1284  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  flex.gif
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i wonder why the 4x8mm heatpipe contact with processor.. if u observe.. the 3x8mm heatpipe now is accurately contacted with the processor.. if 4 heatpipe is squeeze in.. means the 2 side heatpipe will only contact about ½ only with proc...

everyday have new thgs la.. ask ckhoong about it..
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imo the performance will almost the same... according to ckhoong, the performance will be improve for 15-10% which i dont think its alot....

anyways hoping there will be review soon...
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waaa tak dan nak habih pueh pakai lagik yg scorpion nie dah ader yg lagik baru erk....
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Always got new thing... doubt this cooler will be more expensive than current red scorpy....
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Always got new thing... doubt this cooler will be more expensive than current red scorpy....
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yeah its surely will be more expensive than the current scorpion and everything seem same to me except for the 4 pipe...
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I guess the gap between these 4 pipes is reduce, it maybe located nearer to each other if compared with 3 pipes line up.....
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I guess the gap between these 4 pipes is reduce, it maybe located nearer to each other if compared with 3 pipes line up.....
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sure it will... but after reduce.. u think the reduction can fit in 1 more 8mm heatpipe?? hmmm i think can half only lor... lets do some simple calculation.. 8mm x 4 = 32mm.. and assume the gap between heatpipe is 1mm only... means 3mm.. total 35mm.... wats the dimension of processor heatsink which connected to the base of cooler ah?? not 35mmx 35mm so big rite...

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they are preparing it to be used on future octa-core proc doh.gif laugh.gif
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they are preparing it to be used on future octa-core proc  doh.gif laugh.gif
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i think octa-core the dimension of the proc will be the same... isnt it??

imo the 4 pipe is because of the competitor of other brand cooler always uses 4 pipes... and 4 pipes are usually always more efficient compare to 3 pipes... so i guess that is y they create a new 4 pipe just to compete with other brands only.... and most importantly make money out of us... laugh.gif sweat.gif

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juz finish installing my red scorpy ....haih...i install da fan first before install da screw kit....big mistake! wasting almost 1/2 hour to cabut the fan back..screw it. to mobo and...and assemble fan back

btway..quite an improvement...i forgot to check temp before...but before this afaik... at 3.6ghz..my cpu temp in load is 69...now afta quick oc[havent tune it yet] at 4ghz....its around 64-65...

02:14:10 03/04/08 3600.06 70 70
02:14:11 03/04/08 3600.06 69 69

now

15:58:34 03/25/08 3996.04 65 65
15:58:35 03/25/08 3996.04 64 64

btway temperature above is during load...




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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 25 2008, 04:01 PM)
i think octa-core the dimension of the proc will be the same... isnt it??

imo the 4 pipe is because of the competitor of other brand cooler always uses 4 pipes... and 4 pipes are usually always more efficient compare to 3 pipes... so i guess that is y they create a new 4 pipe just to compete with other brands only.... and most importantly make money out of us...  laugh.gif sweat.gif
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8core might have a bigger contact area with heatsink.... but the processor size will be the same.... just steel area of the heatsink will be bigger... anyway just a might only acording to commonsense..

other brand is using 4 heatpipe but not 8mm..... if 8mm also not direct touch.... without direct touch u can put as many heatpipe as u can since the heat transfer thru the copper bast to heatpipe.... but direct heatpipe touch (HDT) is a more efficient heat transfer...

the question im wondering here is whether the 4x 8mm heatpipe can FULLY directly touch with processor anot....

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dont know what to say..
even a quad processor i never test yet.. laugh.gif
anyway guys,hve u see anyone sell the smallrubber thingy?
the one that we use to hold-up the fan..lazy to do by own.. laugh.gif
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dont know what to say..
even a quad processor i never test yet..  laugh.gif
anyway guys,hve u see anyone sell the smallrubber thingy?
the one that we use to hold-up the fan..lazy to do by own..  laugh.gif
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try ask ckhoong... he mention b4 that IF the antivibration rubber broken then tell him... so i guess he got sell or spare for replacement or sumthg.... anyway no harm asking..


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juz finish installing my red scorpy ....haih...i install da fan first before install da screw kit....big mistake! wasting almost 1/2 hour to cabut the fan back..screw it. to mobo and...and assemble fan back

btway..quite an improvement...i forgot to check temp before...but before this afaik... at 3.6ghz..my cpu temp in load is 69...now afta quick oc[havent tune it yet] at 4ghz....its around 64-65...

02:14:10 03/04/08 3600.06  70  70 
02:14:11 03/04/08 3600.06  69  69

now

15:58:34 03/25/08 3996.04  65  65 
15:58:35 03/25/08 3996.04  64  64

btway this is during load...
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what about the temp reading by using coretemp software? how long u stress it??? at least 15mins?

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act..that was from the coretemp log file [Temp log.txt]


btway.here its[its quick 10 min stress..gonna to stress it tonight...]

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nywya one thing i notice...the fan is so silent...

my idle temp around 44-45

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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 25 2008, 04:24 PM)

other brand is using 4 heatpipe but not 8mm..... if 8mm also not direct touch.... without direct touch u can put as many heatpipe as u can since the heat transfer thru the copper bast to heatpipe.... but direct heatpipe touch (HDT) is a more efficient heat transfer...

the question im wondering here is whether the 4x 8mm heatpipe can FULLY directly touch with processor anot....
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u have a point there ... i guess maybe the idea is to get the rest of the heatpipes that didnt touch the IHS to actually conduct a lil bit of heat away from those heatpipes that are touching the IHS unsure.gif hmm.gif

thus, this will allow the heat transfer away from the proc a lil faster ...this way it will make sense for teh increment of 10-15% performance right? hmm.gif


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10-15% is alot man.
it's 3 degree Celcius out of 20 degree Celcius. tongue.gif
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u have a point there ...  i guess maybe the idea is to get the rest of the heatpipes that didnt touch the IHS to actually conduct a lil bit of heat away from those heatpipes that are touching the IHS unsure.gif  hmm.gif

thus, this will allow the heat transfer away from the proc a lil faster ...this way it will make sense for teh increment of 10-15% performance right?  hmm.gif
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hmm not very agreed... if they wanna do as what u said... they can just use 3x 8mm heatpipe and branching from the 3 heatpipes. Thier purpose for 4 HDT is to direct touch to IHS but i doubt current processor can fully contact with 4 HDT...

AMD proc is more advantage in this situation since thier contact area with heatsink is much larger...... not now for Intel, maybe in future...
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Mar 25 2008, 06:10 PM)
10-15% is alot man.
it's 3 degree Celcius out of 20 degree Celcius. tongue.gif
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hmm not very agreed... if they wanna do as what u said... they can just use 3x 8mm heatpipe and branching from the 3 heatpipes. Thier purpose for 4 HDT is to direct touch to IHS but i doubt current processor can fully contact with 4 HDT...

AMD proc is more advantage in this situation since thier contact area with heatsink is much larger...... not now for Intel, maybe in future...
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just a noob guess actually tongue.gif tongue.gif blush.gif


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well if according to what u say, then it means this is made for AMD? didnt realise that amd proc has bigger contact before u say this notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 25 2008, 06:21 PM)
hmm not very agreed... if they wanna do as what u said... they can just use 3x 8mm heatpipe and branching from the 3 heatpipes. Thier purpose for 4 HDT is to direct touch to IHS but i doubt current processor can fully contact with 4 HDT...

AMD proc is more advantage in this situation since thier contact area with heatsink is much larger...... not now for Intel, maybe in future...
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intel non native quad/multi core and larger sized cpu die's would benefit from the 4x heatpipes.

maybbe even phenom quad/tri core, since their cpu die size is so damned big icon_idea.gif
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hmm seems would be not and advantage for intel quad core to be used with a 4 HDT
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Dun judge it so fast... maybe it really can touch the 4 pipes with the proc, then u can imagine the heat transfer is how fast =).... well let juz hope this cooler perform well and it wont burn our pocket too deep.. haha... i hope to give a try on it... admire it once i saw it =P
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q6600@3.0 (8x375) vcore 1.275
OCT 30mins stress test

previous cooler .. scythe ninja
max temp 65 64 61 61

using red scorpion
max temp 61 59 57 57

significant improvement over the ninja .. smile.gif

sorry .. didnt take any screen shots tongue.gif
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QUOTE(QiW @ Mar 26 2008, 01:17 AM)
q6600@3.0 (8x375) vcore 1.275
OCT 30mins stress test

previous cooler .. scythe ninja
max temp 65 64 61 61

using red scorpion
max temp 61 59 57 57

significant improvement over the ninja .. smile.gif

sorry .. didnt take any screen shots tongue.gif
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nice improvement there... anyway do take some screen shot when u can...

btw this test was done in room temp or air cond??

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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 26 2008, 02:19 AM)
nice improvement there... anyway do take some screen shot when u can...

btw this test was done in room temp or air cond??
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room temp .. no aircond .. smile.gif
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well not bad temps reading ur getting there QiW.... room temp lagik
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same setting as fesick, vcore=1.35v and fesick temp was way below (48c) cry.gif

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but i manage to go further and temp also look the same only laugh.gif icon_idea.gif

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bro... did u just came back from the future ? look at the cpu-z core speed! laugh.gif laugh.gif

anyways..fesick's temp is around 55c with normal s1283 la @ aircond room iinm... seems like red scropion n the old ones not much difference

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ya..thats the 1st try..
but the 2nd test much lower..the temp around 49c
but its on aircond temp..still waiting if got time will do it iwif room temp..

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damn revilo did u just pump a trainer to boost ur cpu speed to that amount hahahaha..........
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bro... did u just came back from the future ? look at the cpu-z core speed!  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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ya..thats the 1st try..
but the 2nd test much lower..the temp around 49c
but its on aircond temp..still waiting if got time will do it iwif room temp..
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damn revilo did u just pump a trainer to boost ur cpu speed to that amount hahahaha..........
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no trainer la... just xigmatek only... laugh.gif

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ya..i test ady,mine can do 500fsb but yet stable..

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why r u guys using multiple of 7? much nicer kaa?
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why r u guys using multiple of 7? much nicer kaa?
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its default multiplier in e6550..
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oic luper lak korunk guna proc lain hahahha....
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so when is ur 4.0ghz coming? tongue.gif brows.gif
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hahah want to see kaa.....will try do this weekend as more free time at those days
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QUOTE(ir1z @ Mar 26 2008, 11:44 PM)
oic luper lak korunk guna proc lain hahahha....
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e6550 all this while is known for high oc ability but the multiplier is too low so those who like oc kaw kaw wont go for it....
too bad my ram cannot tahan... or not i bet can go higher than 495x7...


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hahah want to see kaa.....will try do this weekend as more free time at those days
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 27 2008, 12:04 AM)
e6550 all this while is known for high oc ability but the multiplier is too low so those who like oc kaw kaw wont go for it....
too bad my ram cannot tahan... or not i bet can go higher than 495x7...
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Mar 27 2008, 12:16 AM)
actually that could be mobo limitation too right? but 495 @ stock vcore very good edi la... my proc langsung nonit to dream reaching even 410 on stock vcore sweat.gif
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mobo could be the issue as very few board can go above 500mhz... but i think ds3 can do better than that....
anyways most e8xxx has difficulties reaching more than 4.0ghz... so if u could reach 4.0ghz is really good edi...
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mobo could be the issue as very few board can go above 500mhz... but i think ds3 can do better than that....
anyways most e8xxx has difficulties reaching more than 4.0ghz... so if u could reach 4.0ghz is really good edi...
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E8xxx series has difficulties??? i tot they ez go beyong that especially E8400...
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 27 2008, 01:36 AM)
afaik not all 8400 can do that... the very first batch can do that but still rare... 3.6 for 8400 is peanut but go higher or reaching 4.0 may be a problem for some...
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why???.....
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 27 2008, 01:36 AM)
afaik not all 8400 can do that... the very first batch can do that but still rare... 3.6 for 8400 is peanut but go higher or reaching 4.0 may be a problem for some...
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this is maybe true if u are talking bout on stock vcore bro... but if OCing with higher voltage e8xxx has no prob at all to hit 4.0ghz.... the hard part only comes when u are hitting 4.2 n beyond tongue.gif tongue.gif
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Just wanna share some pics of my red scorpion....

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QUOTE(fuzore @ Mar 27 2008, 10:56 AM)
Just wanna share some pics of my red scorpion....



dont mind the cable...messy la... tongue.gif
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if u put like tat wouldnt all the hot air will go into the psu ?...i think this gonna affect the psu temp also smile.gif smile.gif
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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Mar 27 2008, 11:01 AM)
if u put like tat wouldnt all the hot air will go into the psu ?...i think this gonna affect the psu temp also  smile.gif  smile.gif
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well thats the only way too put the red scorpion on my mobo....i cant change the position since amd design mobo is like that not like intel based mobo u can which u can direct it to ur rear fan... doh.gif
i just need to make a hole on top of my casing for another exhaust fan...
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QUOTE(fuzore @ Mar 27 2008, 10:56 AM)
Just wanna share some pics of my red scorpion....


dont mind the cable...messy la... tongue.gif
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bro... temp improvement by how much ar when u put extra fan compared to single fan brows.gif
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Mar 27 2008, 03:27 PM)
bro... temp improvement by how much ar when u put extra fan compared to single fan  brows.gif
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well i cant really say coz brisbane procs have temp detecting issue la...ask any other brisbane user they'll give the same answer...

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with the red scorpion and battle axe......the temperaturs for the cpu and gpu seems same as before...please give some advice or it;s just normal.
the temperatures are in room temp..


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your fan speed run at fullspeed?

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never change the fan speed before, i dont know how to change it but i wish to know...can teach me??
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try look for fan control in your bios..try disable it
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This is what i saw in the BIos,
Current system temperature 51'C
Current CPU temperature 55'C
Current CPU Fan Speed 1433RPM
Current Power system fan speed 0 RPM
Current Power FAn speed 0RPM

CPU warning temp [diasable]
CPU FAn fail warning [disable]
System FAn fail warning [disable]
power fan warning [disable]
cpu smart fan control [enable]
cpu smart fan mode [auto]
system smart fan control [enable]


should i change anything? change the cpu smart fan control?
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QUOTE(maxz663 @ Mar 27 2008, 05:00 PM)
This is what i saw in the BIos,
Current system temperature 51'C
Current CPU temperature    55'C
Current CPU Fan Speed        1433RPM
Current Power system fan speed  0 RPM
Current Power FAn speed              0RPM

CPU warning temp [diasable]
CPU FAn fail warning [disable]
System FAn fail warning [disable]
power fan warning [disable]
cpu smart fan control [enable]
cpu smart fan mode [auto]
system smart fan control [enable]
should i change anything? change the cpu smart fan control?
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system smart fan control [enable] disable
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after disable the cpu smart fan control, the cpu smart fan mode not allow me to do any changes and it showed cpu smart fan mode [PWM]...
before i disable the cpu smart fan control the cpu smart fan mode allow me to change to (auto/voltage/PWM)
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QUOTE(fuzore @ Mar 27 2008, 10:56 AM)
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i think its time for u to get a new casing which the psu is place at the bottom laugh.gif
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QUOTE(maxz663 @ Mar 27 2008, 05:15 PM)
after disable the cpu smart fan control, the cpu smart fan mode not allow me to do any changes and it showed cpu smart fan mode [PWM]...
before i disable the cpu smart fan control the cpu smart fan mode allow me to change to (auto/voltage/PWM)
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just disable the cpu smart fan control
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Mar 27 2008, 06:34 PM)
i think its time for u to get a new casing which the psu is place at the bottom laugh.gif
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its either u change ur casing or change or mobo dude hehehe....
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well i cant really say coz brisbane procs have temp detecting issue la...ask any other brisbane user they'll give the same answer...

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so bro, what is ur reading before this?? so how much drop from the previous hsf??
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aah ah how much drop ah u guys?
mine before running with stock intel hsf at 3.3ghz wif 1.35 vcore = around 53-55c
with xigmatek drop to 43-45c (on load)
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QUOTE(fesick @ Mar 28 2008, 12:19 AM)
aah ah how much drop ah u guys?
mine before running with stock intel hsf at 3.3ghz wif 1.35 vcore = around 53-55c
with xigmatek drop to 43-45c (on load)
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thats a high drop in temps fesick.....really nice improvement there Maybe u can get it to go lower perhaps
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Mine, e6600 @ 3Ghz

before @ stock Intel c2d HSF

Idle: 45+/-
Load: 70

After @ Xigmatek red Scorpion

Idle: 35+/-
Load: 55+/-

The HDD temps are lower too, thanks to the airflow going from the front of the case to the back (case fan-->hdd-->xigmatek-->rear fan)

Gonna try a higher overclock, and maybe re-sit/re apply paste (artic silver 5) across the pipes now instead of the current parallel direction. Mayyyybeeeee laa..if got time...
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hi maxz663,

I had same problem with you -> high cpu temp's after install.
Then after remove the red scorpion and screw in again (this time
taking care to screw each side with the same ammount) the temp's dropped.

E6750 @ 2.66Ghz @1.3V (set in bios) with 100% Loading for 15-20 minutes
Stock Intel HSF 75 deg C
Red Scorpion 66 deg C (not preperly screw in)
Red Scorpion 55 deg C (properly screw in)

This is in a rig with 8800GT and bad case ventilation (my case fans are damaged)
So the cpu temp might drop more if I replace my fans.


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Hi over there, again to inform forumers, try install it carefully and screw it even or else performance will drop... hahaha...
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QUOTE(Eoma @ Mar 28 2008, 11:00 AM)
Mine, e6600 @ 3Ghz

before @ stock Intel c2d HSF

Idle: 45+/-
Load: 70

After @ Xigmatek red Scorpion

Idle: 35+/-
Load: 55+/-

The HDD temps are lower too, thanks to the airflow going from the front of the case to the back (case fan-->hdd-->xigmatek-->rear fan)

Gonna try a higher overclock, and maybe re-sit/re apply paste (artic silver 5) across the pipes now instead of the current parallel direction. Mayyyybeeeee laa..if got time...
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QUOTE(Downcast @ Mar 28 2008, 01:11 PM)
Hi over there, again to inform forumers, try install it carefully and screw it even or else performance will drop... hahaha...
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but according to culain99, the temp also drop when he didnt install it properly tongue.gif
anyways its true the screwing of the scorpion is indeed very important.... if it is not properly u wont see a good result...
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One more important factor is ur casing air flow as well.... or maybe u can try out other thermal paste to see the performance.. =P
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i think is the push pin that giving me the problem, maybe i didn't install it nicely...i wish to get the ss kit but currently no stock...the push pin seems not really fit my mobo, when i push the pin during the installation it's really really hard to pin in...

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QUOTE(maxz663 @ Mar 28 2008, 03:25 PM)
i think is the push pin that giving me the problem, maybe i didn't install it nicely...i wish to get the ss kit but currently no stock...the push pin seems not really fit my mobo, when i push the pin during the installation it's really really hard to pin in...
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u have to PUSH!!!! hard... and not damage it while pushing... tongue.gif.. tat is wat push pin is... hmm for sskit, how bout other brand?
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its a normal thing that those push pin are very hard to push in tongue.gif even on stock intel HSF its very hard to push in...

maybe u can try pushing it in a cross-way... push the pin in the opposite position after pushing in the 1st pin in n so on brows.gif

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QUOTE(maxz663 @ Mar 28 2008, 03:25 PM)
i think is the push pin that giving me the problem, maybe i didn't install it nicely...i wish to get the ss kit but currently no stock...the push pin seems not really fit my mobo, when i push the pin during the installation it's really really hard to pin in...
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imo its normal... coz my previous intel hsf was stiff and a lil force is needed to install the hsf... but the push pin is suppose to fit in.... so dont worry, its perfectly normal but note that push pin may cause ur mobo to bend...
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bend and will cause faulty... and will get new RMA or getting new better mobo.. isnt that a good excuse to get a better mobo?? haha
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haha, get a new mobo but not now lah...at LYN got anyone selling other brand ss kit? If no then i have to go lowyat and find loh..

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QUOTE(maxz663 @ Mar 28 2008, 03:25 PM)
i think is the push pin that giving me the problem, maybe i didn't install it nicely...i wish to get the ss kit but currently no stock...the push pin seems not really fit my mobo, when i push the pin during the installation it's really really hard to pin in...
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thats why i hate to use push pin..b4 this i also use push pin..
i`ll takeout my mobo first then only do the installation so u can see from the back if it install properly..


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haha, get a new mobo but not now lah...at LYN got anyone selling other brand ss kit? If no then i have to go lowyat and find loh..
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ask ckhoong about other compatible sskit...
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just tried tonite to push to 4.0Ghz......tried with almost all setting to even yellow level voltage on my mobo. it wont even post to windows. Seems not to be going there lorr. Might try somehting like 3.8 perhaps next time.
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QUOTE(ir1z @ Mar 29 2008, 02:13 AM)
just tried tonite to push to 4.0Ghz......tried with almost all setting to even yellow level voltage on my mobo. it wont even post to windows. Seems not to be going there lorr. Might try somehting like 3.8 perhaps next time.
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give up edi?? that fast... iriz u disappoint me man... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
anyway its really hard to push q6600 to 4.0ghz... we understand... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
btw what is ur yellow level volatge?? belum sampai red level so still can push what.... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
joking only bro.....
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becareful with ur voltage oohh.... bahaya nie tongue.gif btw... gambateh bro thumbup.gif
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yaa i was worried when pushing the voltage to much. Silap haribulan kena RMA tak pasai2. So after so many failures decided to stop pushing any higher after 1.525v
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3.6ghz edi ok what..
if 4ghz u havnt push switch on button your cpu fly edi~
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haha i already push the button it did show the windows logo but would not go more than that......
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QUOTE(ir1z @ Mar 30 2008, 09:29 PM)
haha i already push the button it did show the windows logo but would not go more than that......
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Guys..just installed dis cooler last saturday.
got question here..how to set d fan to full speed n is there any other software to manage d fan speed?


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Guys..just installed dis cooler last saturday.
got question here..how to set d fan to full speed n is there any other software to manage d fan speed?
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just plug the power cable into 3pin fan connector will do. smile.gif
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3 pin?i think i plug d fan jus as ori intel hsf.
but when open everest it read d fan speed 1188~1205 only.
from d box state max 1500.it's normal or can increase till full?
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yup the max is 1500 plus and mine is running full blast no prob....
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QUOTE(ir1z @ Mar 31 2008, 09:52 AM)
yup the max is 1500 plus and mine is running full blast no prob....
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funny though if u have plug it in ur mobo section of CPU FAN u should be able to control it......the fan does a have a 4 pin plug rite
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yup.it does.argh...tensen2 rclxub.gif
i connected to cpu fan.why cannot control though..1205.dat max read from everest.
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QUOTE(magna_voxx @ Mar 31 2008, 09:30 AM)
3 pin?i think i plug d fan jus as ori intel hsf.
but when open everest it read d fan speed 1188~1205 only.
from d box state max 1500.it's normal or can increase till full?
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plugging into PWN connector will let mobo automatic adjusting ur fan speed acording to temperature.. depends on BIOS setting also.... and u can use specific software by ur mobo manufacturer to control the fan speed too if u want... the fan is ranging from ~750-1500rpm.... yes 1.1-1.2k is normal....ur fan speed will increase when ur processor getting hotter..... u can on full for full time if u want.. at 1.5k is not noisy at all....
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thanks vincentlaw notworthy.gif .i check and try it back tonight.
install dis cooler quite hard bcoz chipset mobo really close wif d heatsink.
but it's really good..idle cpu 9 core 48~49..oc 3.2Ghz laugh.gif

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magna_voxx ,what mobo u use anyway?
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QUOTE(fesick @ Mar 31 2008, 11:06 AM)
magna_voxx ,what mobo u use anyway?
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try find smart fan control in ur bios,then disable it
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QUOTE(fesick @ Mar 31 2008, 11:29 AM)
try find smart fan control in ur bios,then disable it
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abit provide fanEQ control.but if disable it,then no option will be open in bios to control fan speed.
even after install fanEQ,i cannot adjust d fan speed..only can set d warning temp n so on...no control for fan speed.
nevermind..will do dat.
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well hope u can find the solution soon dude.....
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QUOTE(magna_voxx @ Mar 31 2008, 11:03 AM)
thanks vincentlaw  notworthy.gif .i check and try it back tonight.
install dis cooler quite hard bcoz chipset mobo really close wif d heatsink.
but it's really good..idle cpu 9 core 48~49..oc 3.2Ghz  laugh.gif
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you cant find any 3pin fan adapter near to the processor? blink.gif

48~49 is kinda high for idle even at oced speed 3.2ghz.
my previous q6600 idle 40C at 3.6ghz 1.52v.
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okay...will adjust it back.and try to change fan speed oso.thanks 4 d advice guys.. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(magna_voxx @ Mar 31 2008, 11:03 AM)
thanks vincentlaw  notworthy.gif .i check and try it back tonight.
install dis cooler quite hard bcoz chipset mobo really close wif d heatsink.
but it's really good..idle cpu 9 core 48~49..oc 3.2Ghz  laugh.gif
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wat proc are u using... why at 3.2ghz is 48-49'c.. its quite high... my E6750 OCed to 3.6ghz at 1.406v idle at 42-43'c only at noon time..... max load 60-61'c using orthos and prime95

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QUOTE(magna_voxx @ Mar 31 2008, 11:03 AM)
thanks vincentlaw  notworthy.gif .i check and try it back tonight.
install dis cooler quite hard bcoz chipset mobo really close wif d heatsink.
but it's really good..idle cpu 9 core 48~49..oc 3.2Ghz  laugh.gif
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did u apply the thermal solution properly and are u using push pin or ss kit??... the temp should be around 38-45... even with close casing also around that range... my 6550 oc until 3.5 also around 44c (idle) and on load at 60c... all using 1.337 vcore...
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My rig shows unstable and hang at 3.6Ghz.......maybe bcoz I use the stock paste....
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QUOTE(Terence573 @ Mar 31 2008, 05:59 PM)
My rig shows unstable and hang at 3.6Ghz.......maybe bcoz I use the stock paste....
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My rig shows unstable and hang at 3.6Ghz.......maybe bcoz I use the stock paste....
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QUOTE(Terence573 @ Mar 31 2008, 05:59 PM)
My rig shows unstable and hang at 3.6Ghz.......maybe bcoz I use the stock paste....
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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Mar 31 2008, 05:41 PM)
wat proc are u using... why at 3.2ghz is 48-49'c.. its quite high... my E6750 OCed to 3.6ghz at 1.406v idle at 42-43'c only at noon time..... max load 60-61'c using orthos and prime95
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good for you.....hmm so now its running 1500rpm rite
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my fan wont go higher than 1400rpm..haha,but its ok

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did u set it properly fesick. How come cant go to 1500 at least.....mine is reading at a 1534rpm
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hahaa..i dont know..later i check it back..

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QUOTE(ir1z @ Apr 2 2008, 09:34 AM)
good for you.....hmm so now its running 1500rpm rite
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i just change the tim to tuniq tx2..
currently the temp drop by 5c

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QUOTE(fesick @ Apr 2 2008, 02:54 PM)
i just change the tim to tuniq tx2..
currently the temp drop by 5c
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its good to decrease 5'c... that is when load???
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ya..the temp is around 38-41c..

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ya..the temp is around 38-41c..
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thats idle rite.... not load... wat about load... i guess it will be much more different from stock paste
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ohh..load around 43-45c..
compare to previous temp is around 45-49c sweat.gif
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ok..after test for 1 hour(room temp)..
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mm..i cant compare with my previous test as before the test held on aircond temp..
i`ll updated later
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still using old version of prime 95 ka bro? tongue.gif waiting ur result biggrin.gif
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eh...hehe,got new version ka?i just do quick search on google..
whats the new version if got any?

edited:i only found version 24 only..

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eh...hehe,got new version ka?i just do quick search on google..
whats the new version if got any?

edited:i only found version 24 only..
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QUOTE(fesick @ Apr 2 2008, 06:29 PM)
eh...hehe,got new version ka?i just do quick search on google..
whats the new version if got any?

edited:i only found version 24 only..
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tada..... here u go... tongue.gif

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/Home-E...n/Prime95.shtml
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wohoo..thanks..
I edi ketinggalan Jaman..ngahaha
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u mean zaman?

anyway my temp also drop 5 after using TX-2... really great stuff... hahha
i'll post some pics later when i free... hahaha
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hehe..my friend always use "jaman" just joke..
anyway tomoro i`ll post the result..
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Wah! By just changing the TIM the temperature drop 5'C then the tuniq tx2 is a good investment man.
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QUOTE(justin78 @ Apr 2 2008, 10:52 PM)
Wah! By just changing the TIM the temperature drop 5'C then the tuniq tx2 is a good investment man.
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yup not to mention, the price of it as well..
rite now bombman is selling 1 tube of tx2 for rm20..
i also use tx2 for my hdt-s1283 brows.gif
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so many people selling this tx2 now..
ya la..its cheap cause tool-less
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can fit micro atx casing kah?
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QUOTE(notorius @ Apr 3 2008, 01:21 AM)
can fit micro atx casing kah?
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shud be a nope... tongue.gif it fit on ATX casing nicely but nearly touch(about 1-1.5cm left) with the sidepanel... microATX shud be in trouble for that...


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yup not to mention, the price of it as well..
rite now bombman is selling 1 tube of tx2 for rm20..
i also use tx2 for my hdt-s1283  brows.gif
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i tot sum1 is selling rm18 only where COD at imbi plaza 1... izzit bombman???

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ok, thanks mate. If got any idea HS can fit mATX, feel free to pm me.. i appreciate it. and thanks again.
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i decide to stop stress my pc at 3am cuz want watch tv on9 doh.gif
so here the result(aircond temperature)
Xigmatek HDT-s1283 + Tuniq tx2

#idle temp after stress test : mm..the temp correct or not..
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#3min after stop stress test : the temp better than my previous test
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and the result (test on held) : i just shakehead.gif when i see the temp
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thats all..i`ve done with mine..

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yo fesick r u sure ur temp lidat.... i cant believe it wif my own eye shocking.gif
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QUOTE(emilz @ Apr 3 2008, 06:01 AM)
yo fesick r u sure ur temp lidat.... i cant believe it wif my own eye shocking.gif
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aircon ma... u dont know how cool is the aircon... maybe ambient 18'c or 16'c where most of the aircon can set... tongue.gif

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fesick.... thats like so great man.... i now malu wanna post my temp edi.... laugh.gif
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yeah..i wish my temp bcome like urs fesick...aircond huh.hoho..
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ya lor..aircond,the lowers i can set only 18c..
just want show how is it perform compare to my previous test..
the temp wif cam kambing tim give me around 50c too..
so this is much better kan
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QUOTE(fesick @ Apr 3 2008, 05:03 AM)
i decide to stop stress my pc at 3am cuz want watch tv on9  doh.gif
so here the result(aircond temperature)
Xigmatek HDT-s1283 + Tuniq tx2

#idle temp after stress test : mm..the temp correct or not..
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#3min after stop stress test : the temp better than my previous test
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and the result (test on held) : i just  shakehead.gif when i see the temp
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thats all..i`ve done with mine..
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nice result there fesick! thumbup.gif

impressive for ur high clock.... even mine penryn oso cant get that kinda result... but will try remount everything n try apply the TIM on the heat pipes instead when i get my new mobo n see if it really makes a diff tongue.gif

btw.. nengok UCL ke tu? whistling.gif laugh.gif
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hahaha even if u do put ur air con to 18C ambient would be a tad bit higher then what u set on ur aircond remote......that is from what i see
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hahaha even if u do put ur air con to 18C ambient would be a tad bit higher then what u set on ur aircond remote......that is from what i see
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yes.... but depending on situation.... if u have 2hp aircon in small room then diff case.... the 18'c shud be the target for the aircon wanna achieve... so whenever it sense ambient not 18'c then will run faster/full power to cool down the place... if it reach the target then it will maintain it(adjusting)...... tongue.gif ops... too much on aircond since this is not aircond topic...

lets come back......... i think it is possible to go that cool....... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Apr 3 2008, 05:25 PM)
nice result there fesick!  thumbup.gif

impressive for ur high clock.... even mine penryn oso cant get that kinda result...  but will try remount everything n try apply the TIM on the heat pipes instead when i get my new mobo n see if it really makes a diff tongue.gif

btw.. nengok UCL  ke tu?  whistling.gif  laugh.gif
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tongue.gif ..pagi tadi hujan lebat..astro kejap² xda signal..nak tgk UCL xdpt.. tensen..
and 1 morething..dont u think its waste if put the tim intersect wif the heatpipe..?

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erm.... i dont really understand what u mean by intersect bro.... u mean it will be wasted if i apply on the heat pipe? why leh? rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Apr 3 2008, 07:35 PM)
erm.... i dont really understand what u mean by intersect bro.... u mean it will be wasted if i apply on the heat pipe? why leh? rclxub.gif

btw... where can  watch on9 ar? mind to share ka brows.gif
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he means the heatpipe is vertical but u apply it horizontally...


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tongue.gif ..pagi tadi hujan lebat..astro kejap² xda signal..nak tgk UCL xdpt.. tensen..
and 1 morething..dont u think its waste if put the tim intersect wif the heatpipe..?
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previusly i've read several guide on how to apply tims and i come across that applying across 3 heatpipe(intersect as u mention) is an efficient for the heat to transfer for xigmatek.....
anyway how much can u waste on that tiny bit of tim.... my AC MX-2 already half year and i've apply around 7-8 processors so far and it still left about 40% thumbup.gif thumbup.gif Unless u apply damn lot of tims each time and all ur tims goess off from the IHS, then it is a waste.... only small amount needed(not too lil and not too much)each time...... so to me i dont feel there is a need to save it for the lil thg. Unless u are the 1 that take off ur processor everyweek. But even if u do take off ur processor everyweek, the tim is still there, maybe need to reapply just a lil bit only.... Unless u change processor everyweek... then rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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yes but evry person hve their own perspective..
let see the picture :

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refer the picture above,what do u think?which one better?

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i did condition A for my friend and my friend E6550 at stock speed running 28'c with the default thermal paste provided...
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yes but evry person hve their own perspective..
let see the picture :
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refer the picture above,what do u think?which one better?
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i know wat u mean... if u apply both way nicely then it will still end up nearly the same spread after u pressured it... the trick is on how much u apply it... tongue.gif... u can carry out both ways of applying tims and make a test and let us know here..... but remember to be consistant for both way of apply...

there are afew ways to do it actually... refer here
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why need to transfer the heat through 3 pipes?
why not just transfer the heat directly to each heatpipe..
if we compare both cond A & B .. logically in cond B the tim usage are less than tim in cond A..but its all depends


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QUOTE(fesick @ Apr 3 2008, 11:01 PM)
why need to transfer the heat through 3 pipes?
why not just transfer the heat directly to each heatpipe..
if we compare both cond A & B .. logically in cond B the tim usage are less than tim in cond A..but its all depends
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i've edited my previous post with added link
okay here is my point of view,
1. applying tim on every single heatpipe as u mention is not 100% sure the paste wont spread and touch the next heatpipe paste.... unless u are very accurate....(take off ur HSF and see after few days and see the spread of ur paste)

2. if u can achieve the no.1 then u must be sure the paste is spread along 3 heatpipe and have divider in between them, about 1.5mm only.. which is difficult to do it after u pressured it onto CPU.......(take off ur HSF and see after few days and see the spread of ur paste)

3. my own logical thiking on "why need to transfer the heat through 3 pipes?" its to best optimise all 3 heatpipe usage.... as we know processor die inside is not as big as the whole IHS, and the heat from the die is not even across the whole IHS, so if u do that divider thggie for 3 heatpipe.... im very sure the mid heatpipe will be hotter compared to the side 1 due to the arrangement of cores inside the processor. Then the side will be cooler.... this is not very efficient...... for example 3 heatpipe.... 50'c | 65'c | 50'c.... not very efficient..

So if all 3 heatpipe are link then at least the hotter section can spread the heat to the side heatpipe which is cooler to cool it down.... for example 54'c | 58'c | 54'c... more efficient

all above stated is just my personal logic thinking and no fact proven..... i might be wrong

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great explanation there vincent...

imo condition B is better but after seeing what they did from http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=549530, one can apply the compound and use a flat thing like a ruler or blade to spread it until the compound looks flat then only install the HSF... i think that idea is good too but it may waste a lil compound... dont u all think so??
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Apr 3 2008, 11:49 PM)
great explanation there vincent...

imo condition B is better but after seeing what they did from http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=549530, one can apply the compound and use a flat thing like a ruler or blade to spread it until the compound looks flat then only install the HSF... i think that idea is good too but it may waste a lil compound... dont u all think so??
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yap it is a good way, make sure u have apply equal thin/flat surface.... this is the traditional way of applying paste i guess... coz last time i used to do this with Intel stock cooler... after reading some guide of applying paste then i change my way... applying on middle of the processor and use pressure to spread the paste.... then now with xigma is this..

here we have a great guide on installing spring and screw guide..... to get best pressure between ur HSF and IHS without spoiling ur mobo (bend).. the theory applies to all S&S Kit...
http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=16

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after go through all reference n discussion with u
i see both way have their own advantage..
either horizontal or parallel this cooler are perform well..
got people achieve best performance wif horizontal way..
and mine as my previous result using the other method
thanks for ur time vincentlaw

edit : next time i pinjam ur mx2 ya.. joke

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maybe the performance is more or less the same la... at most i think 1c or so diff only la... too bad i malas to take out and do it all over again...

fesick, maybe u could do it... laugh.gif laugh.gif
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yoohh..plssss..even the sskit make it easier to install..
i dont think i`ll re-do it again..after arrange all my cable so nice edi..
later la..hehe
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QUOTE(fesick @ Apr 4 2008, 12:08 AM)
after go through all reference n discussion with u
i see both way have their own advantage..
either horizontal or parallel this cooler are perform well..
got people achieve best performance wif horizontal way..
and mine as my previous result using the other method
thanks for ur time vincentlaw

edit : next time i pinjam ur mx2 ya.. joke
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go get Tuniq TX-2 lor... my next target paste after mx-2 finish... prove to have same capability as MX-2 or even better with about ~40% price cheaper from MX2.... RM20 vs RM35 tongue.gif... maybe u can get urself 1...

u dont need to take off the cable la... just take off ur xigma thats all... tongue.gif

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ya i know..but the fan cable i tie it together with other cable..
thats why lazy..haha
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u dont need to take off the cable la... just take off ur xigma thats all... tongue.gif
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AGREED laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

anyway vincent y dont u just go get a TX-2 and run the test... since u did so much for this thread edi.... a lil more wont harm right.... tongue.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Apr 4 2008, 12:28 AM)
AGREED laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

anyway vincent y dont u just go get a TX-2 and run the test... since u did so much for this thread edi.... a lil more wont harm right....  tongue.gif laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Apr 4 2008, 12:28 AM)
AGREED laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

anyway vincent y dont u just go get a TX-2 and run the test... since u did so much for this thread edi.... a lil more wont harm right....  tongue.gif laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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lol im quite bz with my life recently... im still a student.. hehe uni student..... recently alot of project need to finish up especially that tough microprocessor... haha..... additionally final exam is coming soon.... maybe will do it next weekafter i settle down with my project....

TX-2 is a confirm get when i got go down to imbi... tongue.gif.. but i dont think the temp will be affected alot.... both MX-2 and TX-2 have strong debatable performance but interm of price... TX-2 stand out alot.... thats why my next 1 is TX-2.... but MX-2 still have abour 40%... zzzzzz

any1 wanna sponsor me the Tuniq TX-2? drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Apr 4 2008, 12:38 AM)
lol im quite bz with my life recently... im still a student.. hehe uni student..... recently alot of project need to finish up especially that tough microprocessor... haha..... additionally final exam is coming soon....  maybe will do it next weekafter i settle down with my project....

TX-2 is a confirm get when i got go down to imbi... tongue.gif.. but i dont think the temp will be affected alot.... both MX-2 and TX-2 have strong debatable performance but interm of price... TX-2 stand out alot.... thats why my next 1 is TX-2.... but MX-2 still have abour 40%... zzzzzz

any1 wanna sponsor me the Tuniq TX-2?  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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bro, u can afford to buy mx-2 edi what... tx-2 only rm22 including postage la... dont eat 3 meal i think can buy edi lo...

btw im also student la... college student to be exact... haha
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guys, i u need ppl to test the scenario on xigmatek s1283? btw, going to cod with lehteck this evening...so which scenario u guys want me to test on my e6420?
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QUOTE(ezinger @ Mar 17 2008, 02:46 AM)
here's is my red scorpion set up.

thank god is fits vertically on my mars sweat.gif

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Look like i have to lay my TJ06 horizontally if i wanna use this mega-cooler... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif . Im using Mars too...
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guys, i u need ppl to test the scenario on xigmatek s1283? btw, going to cod with lehteck this evening...so which scenario u guys want me to test on my e6420?
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bro, try out scenario A..... see how is the temp but its hard to compare la unless u did both condition with ur spec... unless some one has exactly the same spec with u and did condition B....

but if u want, feel free to try out both condition and run some test and see how is the temp like... and pls post some screens too.... laugh.gif


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Look like i have to lay my TJ06 horizontally if i wanna use this mega-cooler... sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif . Im using Mars too...
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dont worry la bro.... the xigmatek will fit just nice... so what are u waiting for... faster go get 1 la.... laugh.gif
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bro ham_revilo,fyi all my previous test are same as condition A..
only the latest test are using condition B..
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Apr 4 2008, 10:55 AM)
Look like i have to lay my TJ06 horizontally if i wanna use this mega-cooler... sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif . Im using Mars too...
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gud to hear dat.mine need to twist it.cannot installed it like dat.so pc still sweat.gif
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Apr 4 2008, 10:55 AM)
Look like i have to lay my TJ06 horizontally if i wanna use this mega-cooler... sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif . Im using Mars too...
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So, does the Red scorpion performs better than the normal HDT-S1283?
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So, does the Red scorpion performs better than the normal HDT-S1283?
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Thx vincentlaw. I'm using Lian-Li PCA07 casing. would it fit?
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Thx vincentlaw. I'm using Lian-Li PCA07 casing. would it fit?
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So, does the Red scorpion performs better than the normal HDT-S1283?
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imo its about the same the most 1c or 2c diff only... if u are thinking of getting one, the next question should be do u like bling bling or normal vanila xigmatek icon_rolleyes.gif...

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yeah..... red scorpy bling bling FTW! icon_rolleyes.gif

darn....cant post new benchies for TIM application "type A" now...

the new mobo keep on crashing.... have to reformat i guess sad.gif
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Apr 4 2008, 11:21 PM)
yeah..... red scorpy bling bling FTW! icon_rolleyes.gif 

darn....cant post new benchies for TIM application "type A" now...

the new mobo keep on crashing.... have to reformat i guess  sad.gif
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must remember post when u get it to start up...
love to see how dfi board perform and some condition A performance... brows.gif
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any shop in LYP selling this Red-Scorpion?
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i dont think so u can find that in LYP.... so far only ckhoong got bring this cooler in from US( if i am not mistaken)....

but he macam sudah habis stock already tongue.gif

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not US... is taiwan XD
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ok guys... heres the test for TIM application for "type A method" VS TIM application on IHS....

the "type A" application was done on my new DFI mobo... while the application on IHS is by using my old temp bench on 1st page(using gigabyte p35-ds3) as the reference....

sadly to say my new mobo some how needs a lil bit more vcore to run near to the same clock speed that i can previously achieve with my p35-ds3..so i try to get those settings as close as possible...

the setup settings are as below with both in aircond room smile.gif


TIM application on IHS
clock speed: 475x8=3.8ghz
vcore: 1.3v in bios
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TIM application using "type A" method
clock speed: 470x8=3.76ghz
vcore: 1.31 in bios
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i guess maybe "method A" is almost identical in terms of performance with method on IHS then smile.gif

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both have diff clockspeed as in ur DFI have lower clockspeed(470FSB) and ur gigabute have 475FSB.... it is best to compore on same board since there are difference in vcore and etc...
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this is the stock TIM provided by xigmatek and reading taken just before i remove the scorpion


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here is the result using TX-2 and applying using condition B....



im not sure its the applying method or what but i know the result is amaze although the reading all are done in room temp (no air cond)... still cant beat fesick temp though sad.gif


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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Apr 6 2008, 02:40 AM)
both have diff clockspeed as in ur DFI have lower clockspeed(470FSB) and ur gigabute have 475FSB.... it is best to compare on same board since there are difference in vcore and etc...
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thats the best i can do as i malas want to use back my old mobo to run test tongue.gif

i tried to keep things to best balance... IMO just the slight difference wont give us much of a temp performance increment...

n do take note that as i am running with higher vcore... i did lower down the clock to balance it up... as temp is affected by both clock n voltage from what i have tried so far...


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bro ham_revilo and tkh_1001,can u guys pls upload the idle temp for ur current setup..
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sweat, i installed the xigmatek s1283 in my cpu and ended up the fan cannot lock proper since it's way too narrow to my st75zf.... maybe i should post a picture how it looks like?
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how come i canot reach 3.6ghz?450x8 n vcore pump up also cannot.izzit sumthing wrg?mayb my ram the bottleneck?
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how come i canot reach 3.6ghz?450x8 n vcore pump up also cannot.izzit sumthing wrg?mayb my ram the bottleneck?
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shouldnt u post this at overclockers united section??

anyway try pump up ur vdimm to 2.0v and see how...


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bro ham_revilo and tkh_1001,can u guys pls upload the idle temp for ur current setup..
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no prob... later in the evening i will do it....

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bro ham_revilo and tkh_1001,can u guys pls upload the idle temp for ur current setup..
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will do later on.. now bz tweaking mah new biatch... tongue.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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sweat, i installed the xigmatek s1283 in my cpu and ended up the fan cannot lock proper since it's way too narrow to my st75zf.... maybe i should post a picture how it looks like?
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how come i canot reach 3.6ghz?450x8 n vcore pump up also cannot.izzit sumthing wrg?mayb my ram the bottleneck?
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whats ur ram divider ratio? isit set to 1:1?
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bro..careful wif ur rig ah..later u tweak² ur pc go fly~haha
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how come i canot reach 3.6ghz?450x8 n vcore pump up also cannot.izzit sumthing wrg?mayb my ram the bottleneck?
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every mobo, processor, hardware have diff capability.... maybe ur mobo vdrop is large... so u need to increase ur voltage more than 1.406v which is mine.... increase ur FSB + MCH by 0.1v... loosen ur timing of ur ram and lower ur ram multiplier....
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did someone say the red scorpion fan low rpm?

i was trying to feel the heat on my ram and accidentally touch my knuckles on the fan, and my skin got peeled off. kinda bloody too :S
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okay fesick... got the chance to post edi... laugh.gif


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this is with stock TIM... wait until u see TX-2 brows.gif



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this is what it's like using TX-2 and just after my stress test...

really quite a diff between cap khinzir and Tuniq TX-2 thumbup.gif ....

p.s: all test in run in room temp

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ur temp so good..
but mine..on room temp

same with bro ham_revilo at 1.31v:
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at 1.34v:
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increasing the vcore didnt effect much on temp?

edit : now i see the difference..(on load)

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did someone say the red scorpion fan low rpm?

i was trying to feel the heat on my ram and accidentally touch my knuckles on the fan, and my skin got peeled off. kinda bloody too :S
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... lower rpm compared to previous xigma.. between 800-1500rpm
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hahaha seem ko nak join kitaorang guna xigmatek gak ker mara hehehehe.............
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QUOTE(fesick @ Apr 7 2008, 06:35 AM)
ur temp so good..
but mine..on room temp

same with bro ham_revilo at 1.31v:
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increasing the vcore didnt effect much on temp?

edit : now i see the difference..(on load)
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bro, actually okay edi... if i close my side panel, my temp will be around there and all of my test i did with my side panel open...

btw, damn good OC there.... 500mhz is off the hook bro notworthy.gif
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oh..me close the sidepanel..
my room damn hot right now..haha
the temp rise to 37-38c
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ok... this is my latest test on 1.41v bios smile.gif

finally free a bit time for fesick's request liao tongue.gif

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aduhh..why e8400 so kickA55 ah..
my finger gatal to get one edi..
but my mission for now is to change mobo..
want try push to limit this e6550 as my ds3 cant go any higher than 505fsb ~haha
btw,nice result bro tkh_1001..droooll droolll
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erm... actually i am doing only 4ghz with 500x8(look at cpu-z)... ehehe....

hopefully i didnt mislead u tongue.gif

ur e6550 oso very good edi la... considering the vcore that it needs to push that far to 3.5ghz thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(fesick @ Apr 7 2008, 07:37 PM)
aduhh..why e8400 so kickA55 ah..
my finger gatal to get one edi..
but my mission for now is to change mobo..
want try push to limit this e6550 as my ds3 cant go any higher than 505fsb ~haha
btw,nice result bro tkh_1001..droooll droolll
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still not many board can do more then 500mhz right??
anyways what board are u aiming for?? im thinking MARS as it really have good OC capability...


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not sure yet..
yea,many people said mars ability in oc quite good but im more to dfi than mars..
later i rethink bout it..maybe hold first the board mission..haha
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QUOTE(ezinger @ Apr 7 2008, 01:13 AM)
did someone say the red scorpion fan low rpm?

i was trying to feel the heat on my ram and accidentally touch my knuckles on the fan, and my skin got peeled off. kinda bloody too :S
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Huuu talking about peel off....not by xigma but stock fan.
When I put my fingers to it trying to feel the heat."zing" and my finger is pouring blood. whistling.gif
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too bad for u guys.....got hand cut by spinning fan
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QUOTE(Terence573 @ Apr 8 2008, 12:31 AM)
Huuu talking about peel off....not by xigma but stock fan.
When I put my fingers to it trying to feel the heat."zing" and my finger is pouring blood. whistling.gif
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u too?? actually i also pandai pandai wanna touch the heat pipe then ended up getting hurt by the fan blade but just small cut on my knuckle la... not really that bloody la...
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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Apr 7 2008, 12:54 AM)
every mobo, processor, hardware have diff capability.... maybe ur mobo vdrop is large... so u need to increase ur voltage more than 1.406v which is mine.... increase ur FSB + MCH by 0.1v... loosen ur timing of ur ram and lower ur ram multiplier....
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Oh.......with tat kinda temp will it fry the cpu ler? Afraid to go beyond 1.4v..wat is MCH by the way?
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QUOTE(Terence573 @ Apr 8 2008, 12:39 AM)
Oh.......with tat kinda temp will it fry the cpu ler? Afraid to go beyond 1.4v..wat is MCH by the way?
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actually imo its kinda hard to fry a proc as i seen ppl proc temp hit up to 80 but still okay... usually dont exceed 65c but i myself go up to 70c-71c with my stock intel HSF and my proc still working perfectly now... laugh.gif

MCH=memory controller hub... u may need to increase the volatge of MCH if u wanna go for higher fsb... lets say 500mhz but that doesnt mean u must increase it... some mobo doesnt have to increase the voltage and still hit 500mhz but those case are rare...

ps:correct me if im wrong...

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yup...seconded... u can always try increasing vcore n vdimm first... if those doesnt help to stabilise then only u start concentrating on tweaking ur Vmch or Vfsb....

heck i read at clunck forum saying that by increasing Vfsb n Vpcie u can reduce the vdroop for more stability blink.gif

anyways.. just fyi my previous ds3 can do 500fsb also without touching Vmch,Vfsb or Vpcie settings just like bro revilo nod.gif
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i think i want change the stock xigmatek fan..
last 2 day i install ccfl light i see the fan spin bit slow..haha..
slow only till i touch it..
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wei..sudah la tu...tamaknye tongue.gif

if u look back at what bryanyeo87 say in this thread the, high cfm fan doesnt seems to give u good improvement iirc tongue.gif
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QUOTE(fesick @ Apr 10 2008, 10:05 PM)
i think i want change the stock xigmatek fan..
last 2 day i install ccfl light i see the fan spin bit slow..haha..
slow only till i touch it..
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thats good news for us laugh.gif .... like that we can see more performance test from u notworthy.gif ... anyways what fan are u going for?? fm123 brows.gif

btw, if u can try putting two fans and compare it with one fan... that would be even better....
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Apr 10 2008, 10:29 PM)
wei..sudah la tu...tamaknye  tongue.gif 

if u look back at what bryanyeo87 say in this thread the, high cfm fan doesnt seems to give u good improvement iirc  tongue.gif
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haha..but im not going for superduper high speed fan.
just want change stock fan cuz the main point actually to make it look nice ah..
only if some of u dare to change wif ur red scop fan .. tongue.gif


QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Apr 11 2008, 03:42 AM)
thats good news for us laugh.gif .... like that we can see more performance test from u notworthy.gif ... anyways what fan are u going for?? fm123 brows.gif

btw, if u can try putting two fans and compare it with one fan... that would be even better....
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erkk..two fans? rclxub.gif ..later the fins all bent by me..haha..

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guys do i need a fan that have better cfm and speed then the original red scorpion fan if i wanna use two fan on my cooler....

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Damn Cool..

the color and led.. rclxms.gif
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height 120mm, stated at website...but just to confirm whats the final height of the entire heatsink with fan from MOBO PCB floor (not mobo tray)?

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QUOTE(fuzore @ Apr 11 2008, 02:48 PM)
guys do i need a fan that have better cfm and speed then the original red scorpion fan if i wanna use two fan on my cooler....

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this is how i plan to do another fan as a push n pull setup...rite now just using my old cm casing fan...
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Really want higher speed?Get a NMB 180cfm 120mm fan brows.gif
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QUOTE(fuzore @ Apr 11 2008, 02:48 PM)
guys do i need a fan that have better cfm and speed then the original red scorpion fan if i wanna use two fan on my cooler....

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this is how i plan to do another fan as a push n pull setup...rite now just using my old cm casing fan...
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bro, actually im waiting ppl to do that... thumbup.gif ahaha...

if can please post some result and compare it with a single fan... notworthy.gif



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QUOTE(fuzore @ Apr 11 2008, 02:48 PM)
guys do i need a fan that have better cfm and speed then the original red scorpion fan if i wanna use two fan on my cooler....

this is how i plan to do another fan as a push n pull setup...rite now just using my old cm casing fan...
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i dont think high cfm fan is really going to give u big temp improvement... u can refer here

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=16331457

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well well well..if anybody has seen this or if this is a repost, my apologies.
but this made me LOL'D

S1283
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on a side note; the S1283 had slightly higher vcore and slightly lower fan speed compared to the TRUE.


full review : http://www.armygroup.com.tw/myshop/article...articles_id=185
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nice post there bro ezinger ... but the are running on large fft wor... its for stressing rams? sorry ya cos never really knew what's a large fft is for tongue.gif

btw here's the rest of the other results which all got beaten by xigmatek s1283... do note that the result for noctua is on slightly lower vcore as well while test for tuniq tower is on the same vcore as xigmatek...

conclusion: XIGMATEK FTW!!!! thumbup.gif rclxms.gif flex.gif




TUNIQ TOWER

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NOCTUA NH-U12F
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OVERALL RESULTS rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Apr 13 2008, 03:08 AM)
Really want higher speed?Get a NMB 180cfm 120mm fan brows.gif
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what brand is that he..he..don want to fast one too much vibration... tongue.gif

QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Apr 13 2008, 04:34 AM)
bro, actually im waiting ppl to do that...  thumbup.gif ahaha...

if can please post some result and compare it with a single fan...  notworthy.gif
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he..he..just experimental onli i havent made any comparation yet later will do dont have time now... biggrin.gif
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Can i know where you buy the Xigmatek HDT-s1283 Red-Scorpion ?
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Can i know where you buy the Xigmatek HDT-s1283 Red-Scorpion ?
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check dis...
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QUOTE(magna_voxx @ Apr 14 2008, 12:03 PM)
haha he no more stocks d... both xigmatek old and redscor sold out..
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haha he no more stocks d... both xigmatek old and redscor sold out..
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waa.. really fast sold out. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(magna_voxx @ Apr 14 2008, 01:04 PM)
waa.. really fast sold out. tongue.gif
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of cos la its xigmatek "pisang goreng panas" sure sold out fast rite guys... tongue.gif
ask ckhoong to bring more next time including the new one achilles 1284 or the apache one... rclxms.gif
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he will for sure......as theres quite high demand still for these models....
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Really wanna grab 1 of it but too bad~~~~ what cooler should i get now than:(
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Really wanna grab 1 of it but too bad~~~~ what cooler should i get now than:(
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ckhoong prolly still awaitin goods to arrive.....
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Really wanna grab 1 of it but too bad~~~~ what cooler should i get now than:(
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bro, be patient and wait for this (refer to pic) and maybe u could do some review here... ahaha

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Hello guys... review samples are ready nod.gif

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OMG!!!!!! drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

bro, where is the review and what is the price???

EDIT:sorry bout the post... anyways when will the review be ready?? dying to know the difference between 3 pipes and 4 pipes ...

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QUOTE(ckhoong @ Apr 16 2008, 12:47 AM)
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Hello guys... review samples are ready  nod.gif
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give us one n we will happily review it for u tongue.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Apr 16 2008, 01:06 AM)
OMG!!!!!! drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif

bro, where is the review and what is the price???
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i guess u misunderstood his words tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Apr 16 2008, 01:16 AM)
give us one n we will happily review it for u  tongue.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
i guess u misunderstood his words  tongue.gif
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oops... edited my post already and thanks for the heads up...
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hahaha..will be waiting for the review
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Hello guys... review samples are ready  nod.gif
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bro do u mind to measure how long is the 4 heatpipe.... crossing the heatpipe like in the pic below


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hmm already sampai erk the new one hehehe
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seem like no much different between S-1283 & S-1284, here is the review from coolaler.
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QUOTE(scheewee @ Apr 16 2008, 06:47 AM)
seem like no much different between S-1283 &  S-1284, here is the review from coolaler.
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according to that source.... red scorpy is better than archiles in IDLE/ 10mins LOAD / 15mins LOAD..

Red Scorpy VS Archilles
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IDLE = 27+35 vs 30+35
10mins LOAD = 50+53 vs 59+54
15mins LOAD = 56+53 vs 58+58

hmmm... anyway im looking forward to get the measurement of total 4 heatpipe... pretty sure AMD proc will be more advantage in this archilles

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hmm...nice result... for red scorpy that is tongue.gif
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zerotherm nirvana is the winner !! LOL
this is the only thing surprised me. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Apr 16 2008, 07:31 PM)
zerotherm nirvana is the winner !! LOL
this is the only thing surprised me. tongue.gif
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it surprised me too... blink.gif the nirvana performance in frostytech.com is about the same with tuniq tower.. http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?...eid=2225&page=5
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Apr 16 2008, 01:16 AM)
give us one n we will happily review it for u  tongue.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
i guess u misunderstood his words  tongue.gif
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ayak... sorry for my bad english (><)

anyway.. i got 3 samples here.. can make it borrow unit for review... vincent n tkh_1001.. want to try it out? drool.gif

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aiya..why that picture make me drool ya..
hahaha..will be waiting for the review
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LOL... working on it... laugh.gif

QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Apr 16 2008, 03:49 AM)
bro do u mind to measure how long is the 4 heatpipe.... crossing the heatpipe like in the pic below
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FYI the measurement is 3.8cm

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if i have better proc..sure i borrow too..hehe
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if i have better proc..sure i borrow too..hehe
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haha... anyone got s1283, RS, TRUE, nirvana is welcome to borrow the sample for review ho nod.gif
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QUOTE(ckhoong @ Apr 16 2008, 07:47 PM)

anyway.. i got 3 samples here.. can make it borrow unit for review... vincent n tkh_1001.. want to try it out?  drool.gif 

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can can...no problem.... i will happily accept this tongue.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(ckhoong @ Apr 16 2008, 07:47 PM)
anyway.. i got 3 samples here.. can make it borrow unit for review... vincent n tkh_1001.. want to try it out?  drool.gif  
u mean me??? hmmm.... tkh_1001 shud be able to do it for Intel proc.... and u shud find at least 1 ppl to do it for AMD since i predicted it will more efficient for AMD proc...

anyway if u want me to do it for Intel proc also can... but everythg have to settle within this week... contact me la.... dowan to run 100m again liao k... doh.gif

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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Apr 16 2008, 08:43 PM)
u mean me??? hmmm.... tkh_1001 shud be able to do it for Intel proc.... and u shud find at least 1 ppl to do it for AMD since i predicted it will more efficient for AMD proc...

anyway if u want me to do it for Intel proc also can... but everythg have to settle within this week... contact me la.... dowan to run 100m again liao k... doh.gif
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