i sent my car to service yesterday and i asked the foreman at the workshop what will happen if timing belt snapped since he ask me to change it (65k millage)

but after he told me ,
if your timing belt snapped and you better prepare 2k++ to take out the engine and do complete overhaul , the piston , valve , block might damaged.

i quickly ask the foreman to change the timing belt and the kit (don't want to waste money on taking out the engine to fix this fix that x-x)

and TS , i suggest that you ask the foreman at the workshop take your engine out and do complete overhaul since they said they fix your car for free

Yeah, they did said to fix my car for free. But no matter how they fix it, it seems like they are dragging the time until it to finish warranty (they give 1 month warranty).

I have no choice but to complain to tribunal. Waiting for them to process the claim to change the engine, valve, mounting etc is taking ages. And those siang hin fellers are just dragging the time and didn't change anything.

Seems like I sent the car to workshop is for decoration only, they are not changing anything!

complaint 2 da department lo~
da worst case of my car overhaul also 2 days only~

complain them at consumer association ?

just ask them change a L2 engine for you la xD

anyway , full overhaul probably just take 2~3 days , i did the top overhaul yesterday morning and evening i can get my car

A little update. I sent my car to my personal mechanic, it's confirmed that they never change the engine or valve. Even the mounting is screwed.

So I took the car back to Siang Hin on Sunday, told them that I need the valve and engine to be changed or at least fixed. Coz if I continue to have low power and high FC like this it will continue giving me problem and I will continue sending it back and it's not good for both of us.

Siang Hin feller : But we have changed the valves for you.
Me : Nope, my friend is a mechanic, he checked and even show me that the valve is not changed, or maybe you guys bought scraps to replace and it is doing my car no good. I want it to be replaced with new parts because it is your workshop's fault that my car end up in this condition.
Siang Hin feller : We will consider. (that means he admit that he cheat me la)
Me : I wanna speak to your boss.
Siang Hin boss : I am the boss (a lady)
Me : Alright, so your boys spoilt my car, I need the valves to be changed or at least fixed. (repeat the problem above)
Siang Hin boss : We shall take responsibility.
Me : Alright.

Few minutes later.

Siang Hin feller : Miss, your car leak black oil, need to refill.
Me : How come leaking? Last time you guys fixed it ma.
Siang Hin feller : (totally ignore my question) Miss, you wanna buy which black oil?
Me : Why should I buy when you guys are the one who spoilt it? It never leak until you guys lay hands on it.
Siang Hin boss : Miss, changing timing belt have nothing to do with black oil.
Me : When I sent my car back for the third time, it's already leaking. (calling my mechanic - he said yes, it might caused rupture when timing belt pulled my engine senget)
Siang Hin boss : We will not fix the leakage.
Me : Alright, I'll make sure I update the tribunal.

And now my car is still with me, still leaking engine oil. Waiting for tribunal to do things would be very long. Valve not changed. No complete overhaul. Blah..... life sucks for me now.

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Added on March 25, 2008, 9:47 amI found something
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/628644

This post has been edited by suiteng: Mar 25 2008, 09:47 AM

It's a bad idea to drive with just the timing belt fixed. If your pistons or valves are compromised, it'll be a VERY bad thing
Good thing you did a top overhaul after that though


Firstly, you better find a ride to temporarily use. This is going to take a while.
Secondly, don't give a second thought to charge/accuse them of things that they have actually done. NEVER give them the slightest hint that you 'might' be responsible for any problem a they will dig at that until the story turns 180. You'll find yourself in trouble if you ever do.
Your mindset should be "They screwed my car, PERIOD!".
Idiots like this should be thought a lesson, too many of their kind around due to the large population of ignorant drivers

Hope to share some information in case some people didn't know.
Most product has lifespan in terms of TIME too. In this case of timing belt, some have 3-5 years lifespan (usage).
When unused, I "believed" it willd deterrioates too, just much slower.
So, if your car is old, doesn't matter if it has hit 60K or 80K, check your timing belt regularly.
If you just change new ones, make sure the new ones aren't in storage for years or more importantly, they're giving your second hand (in other case, cheat you).

Another thing to look out for is Rubber Hose and Brake Hose, Brake Hose would go faster.
My previous Wira Rubber Hose leaked due to "age", my coolant leaked. Luckily the Air-Cond guy I went to is a very nice and honest person, he help me identify the problem (which is hidden quite deep inside), and tell me that I could have it replace for only few ringgit.
Take care of these "hoses" or "aging" parts, it's a messed when they give way, imagine if it happens on your long journey and in the midnight, worst when something bad happens.

I also experience losing brake fluid completely, luckily I've almost reach my brother's aparment. If it was on the highway...

how come this Siang Hin so money & degil?

really bad luck suiteng met this type of irresponsible work shop

sue sue sue!! sue Siang Him 9 9!

This post has been edited by iRonTech: Mar 25 2008, 11:54 AM

i nearly change my rim & tire at
Sin Siang Hin (M) Sdn Bhd
2, Medan Midah, Taman Midah
56000 Cheras, Kuala Lumpur

lucky dint...some more is on sunday afternoon

Yeah, I bought a new car. But still wanna fix this wan. And my mindset is "just fix my damm car!" They are the one who screwed it up!

What's the different between rubber hose and brake hose?

They already have bad repo, just that I didn't google before going It's near my house ma...

I think changing tayar and small service is no problem. Dun let them touch your engine can already

Senior Manager from the HQ called me ask me to send my car there. So I'm sending it after work

Let's see how things goes

suiteng, u shd have bring me along, tink they bully female

2-3 days not enough for a full overhaul lah.

At least 5-7 days if you want a decent job.

just saw the thread today

1. tek tek tek tek sound u mentioned, it is from the tappet not tighten properly (which might be caused by bent valve)

2. idle speed become high, this is because they messed up the timing belt teeth by 1-2 teeth and ur engine cant idle properly, so they turn up the idle to "solve problem"

3. no power - caused by bent valve, misaligned timing belt or they messed up ur carb tuning

4. vibrate - misaligned timing belt, broken mounting

btw, wat do u mean by the engine went senget when they first start ur car?

imo, they should change a complete halfcut engine head for u..those valve and tappet in ur head should be damaged by the idiot

This post has been edited by athlonxp: Mar 25 2008, 11:01 PM

hope the SM won't ask u change the whole kancil

I rather bring my whole gang along Got

Just sent to HQ yesterday. Will update again. If got anything the SM himself will call me wor.. but I doubt it.

Wah thanks for all the info. I'm not sure about halfcut engine but they said the have already done top overhaul. But based on suggestions here, overhaul takes days.. but I sent there for 1 day only gao dim. Maybe I got cheated?

1. Noted, will tell the mechanic. So far checked valve and mounting only. Didn't mention tappet

2. Timing belt teeth - broken teeth? Means the roda like thing izzit?

3. Noted. Already asked them to check on the tuning.

4. Mounting memang sudah broken. They said changed already but it's still vibrating. Told the HQ, waiting for result.

On his bill, no problem

my condolence 2 ur beloved kancil~
hope tat they can able 2 resurrect it~

good luck. hope the HQ fixes it for you.

the strongest twin cam + turbo kancil (suiteng's SLK) on da way

My logs :
8 Mar - Sent to Siang Hin for service at 12pm. Went to lunch from 1pm to 2pm. Observe the fixing from 2pm onwards. Saw with my own eyes they screwed up at 5pm.
10 Mar - Collect the car at 7pm. Test drive during traffic jam from Siang Hin Jln Tun Razak road to Jalan Loke Yew, car died when idle at the ramp up to UE3. Died during idle another time near the junction to my place.
11 Mar - Sent back to workshop to fix the die when idle problem.
12 Mar - Took back the car at 6pm.
13 Mar - Noticed engine oil leakage. Sent back to workshop.
14 Mar - Took back car, bring back to apt. Get a mechanic friend to help me check, valve is unchanged, no overhaul is done. Pissed off.
16 Mar - Back from outstation. Sent car to workshop.
17 Mar - Took back car. They claimed that overhaul is done. Noticed the RPM is way higher than normal. Sent back to workshop.
18 Mar - Took back car. RPM stable at 1 this time. Test drive in traffic jam and on highways. Still shaky when reach 90kmph.
24 Mar - Still no power and shaky, ask mechanic friend to help me see. He said no overhaul is done and I'm taken for a ride. And my engine oil left half tank only! The oil is leaking from valve bearing!
25 Mar - Sent to workshop together with my mechanic friend. They discussed things that is damaged and need change. Left it there.
27 Mar - Went to collect car with mechanic friend. Overhaul is done, leakage is fixed. Still gonna test drive for a few days.
2 Apr - Send back to workshop, engine oil leakage is significant when engine is hot.
3 Apr - Got back my car, they fixed the valve bearing again. Let's test drive and see how it goes.

This post has been edited by suiteng: Apr 4 2008, 09:52 AM