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 Gandum V6, ガンダム (Gandamu)

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wolfx
post May 30 2008, 09:48 AM

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Guessing that's from Turn A?
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post May 30 2008, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ May 30 2008, 09:48 AM)
Guessing that's from Turn A?
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Nope, from the original Gundam (0079). The character and the Elmeth is chibi-fied though
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post Jun 2 2008, 10:20 AM

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Hail Elmeth... mother of all Funnel-u tongue.gif

Bow before Lalah, who could have been our motherfigure... nevermind.

Am I the only one who's relieved that it's Katoki's who's designing the Unicorn mecha? I say bring back Yutaka Izubuchi or let Katoki Hajime design the future gundam series. In fact I wouldn't mind Okawara too as long as he stops slapping on more junk onto his CE designs.
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Look mum, I'm a gerwalk with no hands and I'm a gundam too doh.gif

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post Jun 3 2008, 08:42 AM

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Avalanche Exia.
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Definitely more BADASS than the Exia.
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post Jun 3 2008, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Jun 2 2008, 10:20 AM)
Hail Elmeth... mother of all Funnel-u tongue.gif

Bow before Lalah, who could have been our motherfigure... nevermind.

Am I the only one who's relieved that it's Katoki's who's designing the Unicorn mecha? I say bring back Yutaka Izubuchi or let Katoki Hajime design the future gundam series. In fact I wouldn't mind Okawara too as long as he stops slapping on more junk onto his CE designs.
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Look mum, I'm a gerwalk with no hands and I'm a gundam too doh.gif


Not only the mecha is ugly. The name is ugly too. >_<
That's like shit excuse of a gundam srsly. I wonder what it does in the story. laugh.gif

But i like the other one that looked like a Exia protoype...forgot the name.

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post Jun 3 2008, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Jun 3 2008, 08:52 AM)
Not only the mecha is ugly. The name is ugly too. >_<
That's like shit excuse of a gundam srsly. I wonder what it does in the story. laugh.gif

But i like the other one that looked like a Exia protoype...forgot the name.
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astrea?
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post Jun 3 2008, 01:04 PM

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gundam must hav "V" horns~
no arms not gundam~
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post Jun 3 2008, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Jun 2 2008, 10:20 AM)
Hail Elmeth... mother of all Funnel-u tongue.gif

Bow before Lalah, who could have been our motherfigure... nevermind.

Am I the only one who's relieved that it's Katoki's who's designing the Unicorn mecha? I say bring back Yutaka Izubuchi or let Katoki Hajime design the future gundam series. In fact I wouldn't mind Okawara too as long as he stops slapping on more junk onto his CE designs.
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Look mum, I'm a gerwalk with no hands and I'm a gundam too doh.gif


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lousy design ... look like pice of crap haha
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post Jun 3 2008, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 3 2008, 12:17 PM)
astrea?
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Yeah that one. wink.gif

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post Jun 3 2008, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Jun 3 2008, 01:47 PM)
Yeah that one. wink.gif
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im still preferring the original though i know astrea fan base (gunpla) is HUGE despite the lack of the alternative 00 story animes (only manga and novels atm AFAIK)

either the original exia, or avalanche. despite party poopers critisizing its mispropotioned upper torso/back (especially the "backpack"), the "story" or rather tech specs did indicate the avalanche add-on allows exia to be more agile than he already is due to the additional releasing of condensed GN particles. the catch? only last few minutes ROFL! (although that + trans-am would be some awesome bullshit, bleach's shun-po anyone?)
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post Jun 3 2008, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(RCrex @ Jun 3 2008, 01:04 PM)
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gundam must hav "V" horns~
no arms not gundam~
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EZ8 doesn't have V-fins and the design kicks ass laugh.gif

No arms not gundam... LOL

QUOTE(wolfx @ Jun 3 2008, 01:47 PM)
Yeah that one. wink.gif
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Well I've always mentioned that the Astraea is a much balanced design than the Exia. Beam rifle, bazooka, shield, sabres... basic necessities... no need for overwhelming number of swords which only TWO can be wielded at once (two hands only, TWO !!) tongue.gif

Avalanche Exia still doesn't suit my taste as it's too messy. It's similar to the Astray designs where everything just get slapped onto its backpack. I still don't believe that the extra upper torso weight can be balanced by whatever GN particles as it would severely affect the centre of gravity when it's running. Shoot the legs and it'll topple easily.

Having said that, the gunpla looks bulkier than the lineart which has skinny legs and an overweight top. Yet the shoulder design is too similar to the Mushas tongue.gif

If extra boosters are required it should be equally distributed all over the body, or at least on the bottom part of the mecha to improve the stability. This is why huge Zeon MSes have boosters around the bell bottom legs and lower skirt armour.

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post Jun 3 2008, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Jun 3 2008, 03:04 PM)
EZ8 doesn't have V-fins and the design kicks ass laugh.gif

No arms not gundam... LOL
Well I've always mentioned that the Astraea is a much balanced design than the Exia. Beam rifle, bazooka, shield, sabres... basic necessities... no need for overwhelming number of swords which only TWO can be wielded at once (two hands only, TWO !!) tongue.gif

Avalanche Exia still doesn't suit my taste as it's too messy. It's similar to the Astray designs where everything just get slapped onto its backpack. I still don't believe that the extra upper torso weight can be balanced by whatever GN particles as it would severely affect the centre of gravity when it's running. Shoot the legs and it'll topple easily.

Having said that, the gunpla looks bulkier than the lineart which has skinny legs and an overweight top. Yet the shoulder design is too similar to the Mushas tongue.gif

If extra boosters are required it should be equally distributed all over the body, or at least on the bottom part of the mecha to improve the stability. This is why huge Zeon MSes have boosters around the bell bottom legs and lower skirt armour.
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Hmm, but if you noticed, all Solar Furnace-equipped MS already have flight capability similar to V-Gundam series in UC (they can float without boosters), so there's no need to put boosters around legs. Avalanche Exia have additional booster near its skirt armor though. Maybe the the upper armor can be disengaged, like Virtue?
But looking from the design, isnt it seems that Avalanche Exia is more suited for space battle? Dunno about the sotry in which it appears, but for space battle, there's lower consideration for center of gravity
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Jun 3 2008, 03:04 PM)
EZ8 doesn't have V-fins and the design kicks ass laugh.gif

No arms not gundam... LOL
Well I've always mentioned that the Astraea is a much balanced design than the Exia. Beam rifle, bazooka, shield, sabres... basic necessities... no need for overwhelming number of swords which only TWO can be wielded at once (two hands only, TWO !!) tongue.gif

Avalanche Exia still doesn't suit my taste as it's too messy. It's similar to the Astray designs where everything just get slapped onto its backpack. I still don't believe that the extra upper torso weight can be balanced by whatever GN particles as it would severely affect the centre of gravity when it's running. Shoot the legs and it'll topple easily.

Having said that, the gunpla looks bulkier than the lineart which has skinny legs and an overweight top. Yet the shoulder design is too similar to the Mushas tongue.gif

If extra boosters are required it should be equally distributed all over the body, or at least on the bottom part of the mecha to improve the stability. This is why huge Zeon MSes have boosters around the bell bottom legs and lower skirt armour.
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GN particles are pretty much anti gravity if you havent forgotten.
even on ground, exia pretty much "hovers" around during its "high speed agile melee combat" movements. barely ever walks/runs on foot, and even so, hes basically just "standing still" being pinned.

also, since you mentioned the extra boosters should be equally distributed, look at the avalanche's arms/legs, they do have added GN dispersers

noticed that on exia, you only need the lump thingy on its back and its already able to perform remarkable agile movements. now they added 4 additional dispersers on arms/legs, and thats not even counting the load on the backpack.


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QUOTE(Exiled_Gundam @ Jun 3 2008, 03:21 PM)
Hmm, but if you noticed, all Solar Furnace-equipped MS already have flight capability similar to V-Gundam series in UC (they can float without boosters), so there's no need to put boosters around legs. Avalanche Exia have additional booster near its skirt armor though. Maybe the the upper armor can be disengaged, like Virtue?
But looking from the design, isnt it seems that Avalanche Exia is more suited for space battle? Dunno about the sotry in which it appears, but for space battle, there's lower consideration for center of gravity
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aiks you already made similiar reply to mine >.>

=edit=
to clarify, exia avalanche is designed to counter fast paced MS's like the flags/enacts that have high velocity propulsion based movements. given its melee nature, should a flag/enact pilot just flies around and kites exia, it would be difficult (as seen in the anime on some occassions) for the exia to chase them (as its speed isnt exactly fast when running straights against say, a flag in plane form) and usually ends up using that gimp beam gun which pretty much does nothing.

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the avalance design was done by ian, and ian was an ex-AEU engineer IINM, that based his designs on the enact's plane propulsion systems.

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post Jun 3 2008, 05:27 PM

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GN = anti gravity but only to levitate the mecha. When the mecha is on earth it'll still have weight and therefore be affected by earth's gravity. Fair point about the Avalnche Exia being used in space, but its poor centre of gravity prevents it from being used on Earth. And like Quazacolt said, if the other ranged units fly around in circles the Exia is pretty much a stand still target, hence a balanced ranged-melee unit like the Astraea would be a better choice biggrin.gif

I still think the Avalanche doesn't bring that much improvement to the Exia. It could have provided more ranged weapons to balance it, but yet it's still packed with melee blades which again, only two can be wielded at once. Why not ditch the heavy solid blades to shed some weight and hence improve on the speed enhancement. Or add some rifles too.
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Jun 3 2008, 05:27 PM)
GN = anti gravity but only to levitate the mecha. When the mecha is on earth it'll still have weight and therefore be affected by earth's gravity. Fair point about the Avalnche Exia being used in space, but its poor centre of gravity prevents it from being used on Earth. And like Quazacolt said, if the other ranged units fly around in circles the Exia is pretty much a stand still target, hence a balanced ranged-melee unit like the Astraea would be a better choice biggrin.gif

I still think the Avalanche doesn't bring that much improvement to the Exia. It could have provided more ranged weapons to balance it, but yet it's still packed with melee blades which again, only two can be wielded at once. Why not ditch the heavy solid blades to shed some weight and hence improve on the speed enhancement. Or add some rifles too.
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thing is, as i said in my post, avalance exia is a lot more mobile/faster thanks to the condensed GN particle dispersion units added on the arms/legs/backpack. imagine avalance flying faster than propulsion based jets/variable fighters and going up close and slicing them.

range/beam weapons still got chance to miss/deflect via shields etc but a straight up cut is hard to avoid. especially when ur in plane mode where ur not gonna have that much avoidance/maneuverability to begin with minus the straight flight speed.

the only catch is that it is mentioned that the new condensed GN particle dispersion units doesnt last long and does drain the GN drives greatly. Something similiar to the present trans-am system. Although nothing is said if this avalanche addon can be used with the trans-am system or not for maximum win.

end of the day, its on the side story available via manga/novel which i dont have to begin with so not much can be said.
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Exia is for Ground combat ?
Avalance Exia is got more advantage on space combat ?

What is the different between Astraea and Astraea F (function) ?


QUOTE(RCrex @ Jun 3 2008, 01:04 PM)
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gundam must hav "V" horns~
no arms not gundam~
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Isn't it got two head ? the gundam head with "V" horn is hidden infront
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QUOTE(Hellscream @ Jun 3 2008, 09:30 PM)
Exia is for Ground combat ?
Avalance Exia is got more advantage on space combat ?

What is the different between Astraea and Astraea F (function) ?
Isn't it got two head ? the gundam head with "V" horn is hidden infront
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exia or avalanche exia is for MELEE CQB (close quarter combat)
space or ground alike.

astrea F denotes the 00F gundam side story.
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Actually this is a wise decision(took off armor) against GN weapon-wielding MS, coz what's the point for armor, if even GN Handgun(used by Thrones) shots can penetrate even Tieren's thick armor. This decision is similar to the situation when RX178 Gundam MkII were developed, in which a well-placed shot can destroy an MS, regardless of the armor, therefore the armor is sacrificed for greater speed

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QUOTE(Exiled_Gundam @ Jun 4 2008, 09:54 AM)
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Actually this is a wise decision(took off armor) against GN weapon-wielding MS, coz what's the point for armor, if even GN Handgun(used by Thrones) shots can penetrate even Tieren's thick armor. This decision is similar to the situation when RX178 Gundam MkII were developed, in which a well-placed shot can destroy an MS, regardless of the armor, therefore the armor is sacrificed for greater speed
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if ur referring to the avalance, its not even armor to begin with, just something like booster packs tongue.gif

although this time it does share the concept of the flag you mentioned, the avalance pack only last few minutes lol...
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 4 2008, 10:48 AM)
if ur referring to the avalance, its not even armor to begin with, just something like booster packs tongue.gif

although this time it does share the concept of the flag you mentioned, the avalance pack only last few minutes lol...
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Haha. no lah, not referring to Avalanche. It's just that the guy is actually underestimate Overflag because of its thin armor

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