With soaring price of steel and other material, making a mecha is out of the question?..

Look at the array of weaponary the Jegan have. its to bad F91 and CCA didnt feature it.

yet jegan seems to b the soldier units that use for very long time
from CCA to F91 around 30 yrs

unlike from GM to GM II so fast

Because there wasn't any major conflicts after the demise of Zeon all the way up to F91 era. Without big scale wars there's no need to upgrade weapons in a rapid rate. Note that during the peri-OYW years MSes get churned out faster than anything else, especially from the Titans as they seem to throw every possible prototype into action ASAP.

Jegans were pwned by the smaller and more nimble Xbone mechas... But credit must be given to the Jegans. Their presence meant that the EF was able to resist Neo Zeon's Geara Dogas without major problems. But of course they were no match for funnels like Jagd Dogas or Alpha Azieru... until the god-like Nu appeared...

y don they use Nu gundam juz like they use F91 in cross bone X story lol haha

o.O anime become politics

IN WAT WAY OF ?

F91's performance during the Crossbone Vanguard conflict would later result in this Gundam being put into limited mass production. Some of these mass-produced F91s would be used by the Earth Federation Forces' in a war against the Jupiter Empire in UC 0133.
This is wat i meant

Well Nu was destroyed when it got vaporised by the psychoframe resonance. Don't ask why Anaheim didn't mass produce the Nu and sell it to EF for profit, for that you need to ask Tomino. Maybe they realised that ReGNu (Refined Gundam Nu) sounds shitty...

Unicorn's storyline sheds some light about the psychoframe technology. In 0093 the psychoframe was only integrated into the frame around the cockpit. That alone already caused the fin funnels to be too sensitive and reflexive to the pilot's brain waves, as shown by Amuro when his panicking made the funnels attack the cables which are trapping Nu and indirectly leading to Kayra's death in Gyunei's hands. Forward 3 years, and we see Anaheim incorporating the psychoframe into the entire skeleton of the Unicorn (and possibly Sinanju too). As mentioned before, Barnage's reflexive thoughts allowed the Unicorn to dodge Full Frontal's attacks without even requiring joystick control. This could possibly be the predecessor of the Rafflesia's handless control system, where Karozzo piloted the bunga entirely with cables connected to his helmet.

Oh well, here's some proof why Zeon suits KICK ASS.


This one is huge so I'll put the link instead.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v245/Sta...nt=goalgoal.gif

SIEG ZEON !!

nice goal Zaku !! Goal !!!!!!
lol
thx for that info i really like that
i m always wondering wat is the follow up story after CCA n b4 F91

hasaway's flash?
unicorn?
after that moon crisis
til F90, F91...

I would like to also add.. The EF was at facing massive financial crisis. This can be observe though CCA during the trading for Axis. Even though Char cant be trusted the EF accepted Char Gold because EF is desperate for money.

So with this in mind, The EF was facing cutbacks in military wise. That why EF keep the old Jegans after so long.



I dont exactly agree 100% with this statement. During 0083 it shows that the EF, Even though the EF army is rather relaxed after OYW nonetheless The EFSF was in top shape, With C type GMs + Alexandria Class warships + Improve Salamis.

Although 0083 is only 3 years gap from OYW but it show EF is still able to keep a strong army even with "defeated" terrorist.

I still feel that EF was starting to deline after CCA hence their military is weak.



The Nu cant be mass produce because Amuro play a major role into inventing Nu Gundam. While AE and Chen pretty much help him out. So with the inventor dead and his assistant , So Nu Gundam will remain forever lost.

If u wanted to see Nu Gundam again.. well ask Fukuda to introudce Gundam Seed III and Kira Yamato will pilot Nu Freedom just as planed.

Possibly. EF was already corrupted to start with, so there's no surprise to see them decay even more after CCA. AE should have had a copy of the Nu's plans since they are the ones who made it, but who knows why didn't they make it anyway. The demise of Chan and Amuro doesn't mean that AE couldn't re-manufacture the big machine, it's just whether Tomino wants it to be resurrected or not.

At the moment, Unicorn seems to be on par, if not more powerful than the Nu... The only thing it lacks is the funnels and the cheating pyramid beam shield. So maybe that's where the AE resources went.

Nu Freedom... *shudders*

This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Apr 27 2008, 08:41 AM

AE wouldnt have a complete copy of Nu because Nu to begin with wasnt complete. It was rushed to the frontlines. Also Mass Producing it require alot of changes and modification so without Amuro, Its just difficult to be practical.

Also if observe EF in general is using GMIII which is consider outdated already. So compare to spending more time and money on Nu or just pump out an already exsisting design Jegan. So there you have it.

Like it or not, 0080 has more soul since the characters were more developed than the rest of the UC Gundam series. A lot of other Gundam characters were becoming caricature themselves, too much emphasis on MS battle while neglecting who are this people are. 0080 is story of human beings, not typical Gundam which a massive win from other where other Gundam is either mecha masturbation or peacenik ramblings. F 91 for example is so tepid in characterization. Sure the MS look pretty but it is hollow and empty, no soul.

MS Igloo is pretty yes, but it is so hopelessly stereotypical that it become unmemorable.

Gundam dialogue also bordering on either too silly or too childish. That needs reworking too. The writers have to trust that audience can think for themselves and show the story, not telling it.

This post has been edited by Stormy001_M1A2: Apr 27 2008, 02:56 PM

AHH Kampfer, Gundam Alex, RGM 79 C and G, MP guncannon, Zaku II kai and etc etc etc..

How can we not have cries for mecha porn while all this Cool looking Mecha is in the anime

Obviously it's too difficult to be practical for a mass produced Nu. I never said they succeeded in the first place... I'm merely suggesting the possibility that they are able do so if they wanted to.

The ReGZ without transformation is already deemed too expensive, to mass produce a psychoframe unit would be even more tedious. That's why Jegans got rolled out instead.

That's why I loved 0080 a lot. It means so much more than the other series despite having the least amount of battles. And every time they fought it ends up in a bloody mess, which is the way war should be. And as you put it, everyone has a soulful existence in the story. They don't have to pilot MSes to be important.

Gundam dialogue... this is why we need maniacal yet philosophical baddies whose ideas are thought-provoking, although they don't necessarily need to be correct.


This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Apr 28 2008, 01:52 PM

WOW... ME DOZLE HULK !!! ME ANGREEEEEE !!!!!

Isnt this that korea cartoon that totally rip off all of Gundam chara.. got Char, Sayla and Hayato also..

WTF.. dumb koreans always ripping of anime..

hmm....the skinhead octopus?
what i wondered is why does it always have to be the baddies that have some very philosophical ideas and thinking till the extend that they seems to be doing it in good intentions, but the leaders behind the main character's side are just bunch of corrupted,money thirsty, and selfish old man???(and usually involved American in the top position....)
hmm.....