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 Proton Saga BLM Club V2, One of the hottest car right now

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post May 10 2008, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(cyberloner @ May 10 2008, 05:22 AM)
it is same as i manual brake my motorcycle SS last time... when play with disk brake... i brake and release and brake again and release a few times... it really shorten the distance... by hitting brake directly...
car is also same... no abs... if u hit the brake directly... the car will move.... quite a far distance...
with abs... it is auto hit and release the brake...



see how the brake work

you are also right about control the car when braking as well... maybe i was wrong..
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ABS, it wont shorten the distance, it is still the same. The only thing that ABS works is, when you do emergency brake, tyre will get lock and it will cause your car unable to control when you turn the steering, it will still go straight only. With ABS, it will prevent this to happen, you'll feel that your tyre is lock but it allow the tyre to move, you'll feel it because the tyre is hold by something and it is forcing it to move, so when this happen, you turn the steering and you still able to control the steering.

With ABS, when tyre lock, you turn the steering, your car can be control.
Without ABS, when tyre lock, you turn the steering, your can will go straight only.

My friend tested with his camry on a flat road and I was in the car, because I do not understand how ABS works sweat.gif



QC, Perodua and Proton do not have any difference. You can say Proton have a same issue for over 10 years, is Perodua release that long like Proton? As I said, Perodua does have a lot of QC problem like Proton, just because it release later than Proton, everyone thought that it got better QC.

Window problem, I'm not sure. But common problem in Proton, sound here sound there, it is happening on Perodua too. If you say it is just some cars having this issue, Proton also same, not everyone having the problem. Proton use spoilt parts on the car, yes Perodua did the same thing as well to cut cost, took back to SC for fix? They just use glue like what Proton did to some customer. Some SC might not having this issue? Yes, some Proton SC does fix the problem without this problem. And haven't mention door knorb problem that my friend's myvi.

Conclusion is, Proton and Perodua, both having the same QC. You are lucky to get good QC perodua, so do I that lucky to get good QC proton.
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post May 10 2008, 11:56 AM

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drove my blm b-line tis morn..
overall,hard to get used to it..
1. signal light different direction
2. braking are some sort like air-pump..i need to press twice for an emergency brake.
3. the sofa is kinda cushy..haha.nvm, like it too.
4. i got no time to check on my rpm coz i haven get used to eat..focus more on the road.haha.

not bad car.gear 1, 2 and 3 kinda slow in pickup..4 and 5 is a WOW!not bad not bad..will try on a 160rpm speeding soon.woot!illegal but yes.

however i don like the time when change gear..the petrol wont cut off immediately when u put off my oil pedal..thats a task..used to drive accord 1.8 1986..nw downgrade 1.3 but not bad..like to speed behind..will test on with the milage..still counting.
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post May 10 2008, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ May 10 2008, 11:56 AM)
drove my blm b-line tis morn..
overall,hard to get used to it..
1. signal light different direction
2. braking are some sort like air-pump..i need to press twice for an emergency brake.
3. the sofa is kinda cushy..haha.nvm, like it too.
4. i got no time to check on my rpm coz i haven get used to eat..focus more on the road.haha.

not bad car.gear 1, 2 and 3 kinda slow in pickup..4 and 5 is a WOW!not bad not bad..will try on a 160rpm speeding soon.woot!illegal but yes.

however i don like the time when change gear..the petrol wont cut off immediately when u put off my oil pedal..thats a task..used to drive accord 1.8 1986..nw downgrade 1.3 but not bad..like to speed behind..will test on with the milage..still counting.
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The brake pads proton gave is not good, so hard to do emergency brake, proton mech told me that, try changing to aftermarket high performance brake pad confirm satisfy. The petrol wont cut off is due to the electronic control throttle no more line already that why got delay. As for pick up my one is auto im quite satisfy power really comes when hit 3k rpm and above, better than my wira 1.5.
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post May 10 2008, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(ching4ever @ May 10 2008, 10:59 AM)
ABS, it wont shorten the distance, it is still the same. The only thing that ABS works is, when you do emergency brake, tyre will get lock and it will cause your car unable to control when you turn the steering, it will still go straight only. With ABS, it will prevent this to happen, you'll feel that your tyre is lock but it allow the tyre to move, you'll feel it because the tyre is hold by something and it is forcing it to move, so when this happen, you turn the steering and you still able to control the steering.

With ABS, when tyre lock, you turn the steering, your car can be control.
Without ABS, when tyre lock, you turn the steering, your can will go straight only.

My friend tested with his camry on a flat road and I was in the car, because I do not understand how ABS works  sweat.gif
QC, Perodua and Proton do not have any difference. You can say Proton have a same issue for over 10 years, is Perodua release that long like Proton? As I said, Perodua does have a lot of QC problem like Proton, just because it release later than Proton, everyone thought that it got better QC.

Window problem, I'm not sure. But common problem in Proton, sound here sound there, it is happening on Perodua too. If you say it is just some cars having this issue, Proton also same, not everyone having the problem. Proton use spoilt parts on the car, yes Perodua did the same thing as well to cut cost, took back to SC for fix? They just use glue like what Proton did to some customer. Some SC might not having this issue? Yes, some Proton SC does fix the problem without this problem. And haven't mention door knorb problem that my friend's myvi.

Conclusion is, Proton and Perodua, both having the same QC. You are lucky to get good QC perodua, so do I that lucky to get good QC proton.
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chingy, u didnt mention that produa is all copy jobs.. all the car is from toyota or daihatsu.. yes we all have wira n tiara copy jobs.. but we do have the new Saga build from btm to top n design by malaysian..

Yes i agree, we have bad QC n all.. Other car makers are more than a dacade or half a dacade in making cars.. dun compare.. and remember our country is still a raising country.. dun compare with japan or korean cars.. koz they have better technology and also they have so much more years behind their sleves in car making.. u dun ask a newborn child to walk n jump rite? n yes produa has better QC...so what? its all copy jobs.. i can also buy a car from toyota n double side tape a produa tag on... and so if they make the car in malaysia, its still from an exact blue print from toyota..

at leats i can say this SAGA is a huge leap for proton and they will keep progressing..

enuff said, if u still think ur kelisa or kancil is still the best.. go ahead.. im not bothered.. less 1 person liking proton doesnt make any difference.. take a drive out ur house.. n look at the cars around u.. most of them are protons... so next time u see a word proton is a word F**k u from proton to ur sorry ass...

This post has been edited by LambOfGod: May 10 2008, 03:50 PM
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post May 10 2008, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(kewlbuzz @ May 10 2008, 10:07 AM)
latest fc report..

rm30 = 230km about 13cent/km wink.gif
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wow that quite good
for rm 30 i can only get around 160-170km
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post May 10 2008, 08:13 PM

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proton needs more and better engines..the waja should at least have 150hp in it..the r3 versions should have more than 200, but wat am i kidding, it will be decades b4 that happen based on their progress
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post May 10 2008, 09:50 PM

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http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/02...211406.3-lg.jpg

http://www.hostvibes.com/proton-blm-clay-m...-design-studio/

proton BLM fans, compare carefully.... BLM is juz a sedan model of Savvy ....

see clearly the chassis urself.... they only change the bumper and add a tail....

if u still cannot see the diff , go to proton edar and take the brochure and compare side by side ... see the chassis carefully.... its savvy chassis ....
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post May 10 2008, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(steventan85 @ May 10 2008, 09:50 PM)
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/02...211406.3-lg.jpg

http://www.hostvibes.com/proton-blm-clay-m...-design-studio/

proton BLM fans, compare carefully.... BLM is juz a sedan model of Savvy ....

see clearly the chassis urself.... they only change the bumper and add a tail....

if u still cannot see the diff , go to proton edar and take the brochure and compare side by side ... see the chassis carefully.... its savvy chassis ....
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what is your point boy? cmon la...if u prefer myvi over saga..then go for myvi...nobody is forcing u to get saga doh.gif

and please stop making stupid statement here sweat.gif
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post May 10 2008, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(RoyMcAvoy @ May 10 2008, 07:58 PM)
wow that quite good
for rm 30 i can only get around 160-170km
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urs manual or auto?
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post May 10 2008, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(imprint @ May 10 2008, 10:06 PM)
what is your point boy? cmon la...if u prefer myvi over saga..then go for myvi...nobody is forcing u to get saga  doh.gif

and please stop making stupid statement here  sweat.gif
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wateve u say... juz wanna point out that saga is a new model of savvy.... tats wat my bro point it out to me juz now .... whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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post May 10 2008, 10:19 PM

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thats why i asked, wats your point? we all knew that the new saga is based on savvy chassis... please la..u want to bash saga but u just found out bout it hahaha please..pleasee
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post May 10 2008, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(godbaby @ May 10 2008, 10:12 PM)
urs manual or auto?
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mine is manual to get better fc.. rev it below 3000rpm.. smile.gif


Added on May 10, 2008, 10:23 pm
QUOTE(steventan85 @ May 10 2008, 09:50 PM)
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/02...211406.3-lg.jpg

http://www.hostvibes.com/proton-blm-clay-m...-design-studio/

proton BLM fans, compare carefully.... BLM is juz a sedan model of Savvy ....

see clearly the chassis urself.... they only change the bumper and add a tail....

if u still cannot see the diff , go to proton edar and take the brochure and compare side by side ... see the chassis carefully.... its savvy chassis ....
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u recently know ah? haiyoo, pitty u.. proton already said it is from savvy chasis.. icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by kewlbuzz: May 10 2008, 10:23 PM
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post May 10 2008, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(steventan85 @ May 10 2008, 11:13 PM)
wateve u say... juz wanna point out that saga is a new model of savvy.... tats wat my bro point it out to me juz now .... whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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LOL!! That's the funny thing I ever heard! Did you saw anyone here said saga is not build base on savvy? I remember even proton clarify that it is base on savvy, that's why saga can have a good handling compare to your so good myvi that sucks on handling.
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post May 10 2008, 10:48 PM

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ya lo we already know before the saga come out..
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post May 10 2008, 10:59 PM

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haha,at least blm got modify a bit,but myvi?omg,totally the same,haha,juz ignore that fellow,he get myvi ad,sure la say his myvi very powerful bla bla,as i noe,blm is 98x kg,but extra power,cc,myvi is 960,who say blm is 1000 kg?totally nuts
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post May 10 2008, 11:09 PM

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hi.. im new here.. after 3 months waiting.. FINALLY get my new saga BLM.. is really a good car in terms of handling. the design vry vry wise!!!

to someone who like to bash here and there... myvi is not good as what u quote!!! my dad own a myvi as well.. the audio sux!! air-cond sux!! not cold at all especially day time-HOT doh.gif !! the new saga air-cond is really super duper cold.. if u r saying the interior for saga not nice .. i can tell u that even my dad prefer saga interior more then the easily get scratch interir which ur so good myvi own!! its damn easy get scratch juz only by ur fingers nail.!! dn belive?? go to the showroom try yourself..
saga handling really good.. thumbup.gif u can feel the difference..>>>!! myvi??when on bumpy road it sounds like the tyre will terkeluar.. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif like the car buang buang buang like that the sound..>>!!! saga handling much much more better than ur myvi!!and thats becoz it base on savvy chasis!!!!!!!!!!!

vmad.gif Juz feel angry haha nod.gif ... btw its my first car..BLM!! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
Juz sharing my experience.... flex.gif


Added on May 10, 2008, 11:14 pm
QUOTE(steventan85 @ May 10 2008, 09:50 PM)
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/02...211406.3-lg.jpg

http://www.hostvibes.com/proton-blm-clay-m...-design-studio/

proton BLM fans, compare carefully.... BLM is juz a sedan model of Savvy ....

see clearly the chassis urself.... they only change the bumper and add a tail....

if u still cannot see the diff , go to proton edar and take the brochure and compare side by side ... see the chassis carefully.... its savvy chassis ....
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hi.. im new here.. after 3 months waiting.. FINALLY get my new saga BLM.. is really a good car in terms of handling. the design vry vry wise!!!

to someone who like to bash here and there... myvi is not good as what u quote!!! my dad own a myvi as well.. the audio sux!! air-cond sux!! not cold at all especially day time-HOT doh.gif !! the new saga air-cond is really super duper cold.. if u r saying the interior for saga not nice .. i can tell u that even my dad prefer saga interior more then the easily get scratch interir which ur so good myvi own!! its damn easy get scratch juz only by ur fingers nail.!! dn belive?? go to the showroom try yourself..
saga handling really good.. thumbup.gif u can feel the difference..>>>!! myvi??when on bumpy road it sounds like the tyre will terkeluar.. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif like the car buang buang buang like that the sound..>>!!! saga handling much much more better than ur myvi!!and thats becoz it base on savvy chasis!!!!!!!!!!!

vmad.gif Juz feel angry haha nod.gif ... btw its my first car..BLM!! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
Juz sharing my experience.... flex.gif

This post has been edited by blackartd: May 10 2008, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(blackartd @ May 10 2008, 11:09 PM)
hi.. im new here.. after 3 months waiting.. FINALLY get my new saga BLM.. is really a good car in terms of handling. the design vry vry wise!!!

to someone who like to bash here and there... myvi is not good as what u quote!!! my dad own a myvi as well.. the audio sux!! air-cond sux!! not cold at all especially day time-HOT doh.gif !! the new saga air-cond is really super duper cold.. if u r saying the interior for saga not nice .. i can tell u that even my dad prefer saga interior more then the easily get scratch interir which ur so good myvi own!! its damn easy get scratch juz only by ur fingers nail.!! dn belive?? go to the showroom try yourself..
saga handling really good.. thumbup.gif  u can feel the difference..>>>!! myvi??when on bumpy road it sounds like the tyre will terkeluar.. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif like the car buang buang buang like that the sound..>>!!! saga handling much much more better than ur myvi!!and thats becoz it base on savvy chasis!!!!!!!!!!!

vmad.gif Juz feel angry haha nod.gif ... btw its my first car..BLM!!  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
Juz sharing my experience.... flex.gif


Added on May 10, 2008, 11:14 pm

hi.. im new here.. after 3 months waiting.. FINALLY get my new saga BLM.. is really a good car in terms of handling. the design vry vry wise!!!

to someone who like to bash here and there... myvi is not good as what u quote!!! my dad own a myvi as well.. the audio sux!! air-cond sux!! not cold at all especially day time-HOT doh.gif !! the new saga air-cond is really super duper cold.. if u r saying the interior for saga not nice .. i can tell u that even my dad prefer saga interior more then the easily get scratch interir which ur so good myvi own!! its damn easy get scratch juz only by ur fingers nail.!! dn belive?? go to the showroom try yourself..
saga handling really good.. thumbup.gif  u can feel the difference..>>>!! myvi??when on bumpy road it sounds like the tyre will terkeluar.. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif like the car buang buang buang like that the sound..>>!!! saga handling much much more better than ur myvi!!and thats becoz it base on savvy chasis!!!!!!!!!!!

vmad.gif Juz feel angry haha nod.gif ... btw its my first car..BLM!!  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
Juz sharing my experience.... flex.gif
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another honest comment, flex.gif flex.gif

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post May 10 2008, 11:33 PM

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Yeah, he sound like we never compare the car before we buy. Most of us here not just go show room like he did to test the car but based on real experience by ourself or friends and family instead of few minutes touch and drive at show off feeling.

All the points he said doesn't make any sense. When he got nothing else better to say then he comes out another point saying saga based on savvy, and that's the news that annonunce by proton before saga launch. He thought his myvi is so damn good but actually just another brand's car that change the name tag only.
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post May 11 2008, 03:27 AM

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haha ..
going to get my car within this month....
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Do your know the suspension of blm is made in France =P

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