QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 17 2009, 03:21 AM)
Hahaha! Now I know why I don't buy pirated CDs anymore! chinese ed gf vs english ed gf, let the debates begin lulz
chinese ed gf vs english ed gf, let the debates begin lulz
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Apr 17 2009, 08:41 PM
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Jun 6 2009, 12:34 PM
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If communication isn't the only problem, what is?
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Jun 8 2009, 05:55 AM
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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jun 7 2009, 11:55 PM) This is something that annoys me about Chinese-ed people too. It even happens in the office - they start talking in Mandarin or Cantonese even when discussing work, when it's important for me to understand what they're saying. The worst is when they do it in front of non-Chinese colleagues. Isolation of the intellectual. To them, it is subliminally and hereditary perceived that the English language is simply SUPERIOR, not because of its characteristics, but because most people are influenced by today's modernization that is enriched by the West.Hell, it even happens here in LYN. Believe me, subliminally, they are the insecure ones, and they WILL ISOLATE YOU if you DON'T SPEAK THEIR LANGUAGE. I know. I knew. I WAS ONE OF THEM, until I was converted to Westernization, although not completely. Imagine a commie given the revelation of LIBERTY. It's something like that. However, this is off-topic. This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Jun 8 2009, 05:58 AM |
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Aug 1 2009, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jul 30 2009, 03:10 PM) I mix with both sides although I'm english ed. No one I know from the english ed. camp looks down on chinese ed. because they can't speak english well. If you noticed, english ed. people tend to mix with people with several different mother tongues. How often do you see chinese ed people hanging out with people from africa, maldives, germany, holland, russia, korea, japan etc.? These people don't speak english well, and the english ed. people do not discriminate against them. The perception that you're being looked down upon is due to your own insecurity. Whether you're willing to admit it or not, you do view English as something good, and when you can't excel at it, it makes you feel inferior. Which is why you think people are looking down on you, when in fact, nobody is doing anything of that sort. Perhaps you've had bad experience with some people, but you shouldn't be so quick to generalise that everyone is like that, get to know more people instead of hating them for something other people have done to you. I've experienced discrimination from chinese ed people cause I can't understand mandarin, but that has never stopped me from making friends with them anyway. Grow up. QUOTE(destee88 @ Jul 31 2009, 04:14 PM) Do you understand what silverhawk is trying to tell you? |
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Aug 3 2009, 08:20 PM
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Aug 23 2009, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Aug 22 2009, 11:51 AM) "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." And unfortunately, by such endeavours, the English Language still remained being the language with the largest vocabulary, covering almost all the specifics to describe our modernized world.- James Nicoll |
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Aug 23 2009, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(KirklandLee @ Aug 23 2009, 12:58 PM) In the States some Asians really wanna be Asian but here in Asia we have Asians who really wanna be Whites. Damn it's weird. Just be proud to be Asian. "Caucasian" and "Asian" are really, POLITICAL LABELS. People are people, irregardless of what their endeavours may it be Westernized or Orientalized.Culture, history, and nationality do not determine who you are. You determine who you are. This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Aug 23 2009, 02:12 PM |
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Aug 23 2009, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(KirklandLee @ Aug 23 2009, 07:38 PM) Yes and wrong. It is because of history and culture is where we are now. Who makes the decisions? You, or the influences?simple as that. They way you lead your life and eat and work it has to do with culture. Then why majority of the malays fast on the fasting month. That is still belief that still influence a part of their life. It does not determine but it influences. This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Aug 23 2009, 09:29 PM |
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Aug 24 2009, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(KirklandLee @ Aug 23 2009, 09:35 PM) How you have been raised and other people have been raised is thru the influences of the culture you been brought up that influences your decisions. Other factors? Do you make the decisions yourself, or do you let the influences make the decisions for you?Some are individualist and think about other people. So, the answer to that question is only you, yourself can answer. Prolly for you, its you but for other people its other factors. It all boils down to the culture and lifestyle and mindset you been brought up with. |
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QUOTE(KirklandLee @ Aug 24 2009, 12:11 AM) It may influence you, but it is YOU who call the shots. So if you are responsible for yourself, and you have yourself to blame, and not pointing fingers at the environment.QUOTE(debbieyss @ Aug 24 2009, 12:40 AM) Well, i like english ed guys, any one out there like me? Are you some kind of a cosplayer?p.s: you guys want Chinese Tea? The temperature here seems too warm... This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Aug 24 2009, 09:05 PM |
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Aug 24 2009, 09:12 PM
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Aug 24 2009, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Aug 24 2009, 09:15 PM) *shrugs*Pink hair, pink toy, pink dress. I thought you'll think that's a lil' obvious too. QUOTE(KirklandLee @ Aug 24 2009, 09:17 PM) That's my point. Influence does affect the situation choices. When it comes to buy a house, buying a car etc. But you see, some people can't see transcendentally beyond culture, race, and ethnic roots.It does affect your decision. That's my point. Some people buy a house because their family wants it or spouse wants it. just an example. This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Aug 24 2009, 09:25 PM |
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Aug 24 2009, 09:52 PM
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Aug 24 2009, 09:58 PM
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Aug 24 2009, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(KirklandLee @ Aug 24 2009, 09:59 PM) There we go, with things so close to us to be reached, and the skies way too far from us only to be admired, to only understand how life actually still moves on irregardless of what has happened, and just like the snow in may, it's as if it's never even there before. |
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Aug 25 2009, 11:45 PM
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Aug 25 2009, 11:37 PM) I prefer specific terms like Westernized, and Orientalized, instead of English, and Chinese educated.It's the mindset. One believes in liberty and the other...well, believes in Communism? No offense. This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Aug 25 2009, 11:45 PM |
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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Aug 26 2009, 01:46 AM) Do you consider that a good thing? Hahaha, KirkandLee. It's too late. You being a Chinese, as soon as you are exposed to the Westernized concept of modernization and liberty, you may say it's the value of heritage that sparked your interest of your ethnicity's culture, but whenever some intellectual phenomenon is happening...mark my words:Maybe you'll say, it's not a matter of good or bad, it's just the way it is. But what if I were to ask you, is it good or bad? Because you seem to be very blase about the worse aspects of traditional Chinese thinking. Every time someone criticizes a negative aspect of Chinese culture, you seem to jump right up to defend it. It's almost as if, to you, as long as it's Chinese, no one can criticize. As long as it's Chinese - or you think it's Chinese - you follow. You will use the English Language to express that intellect, and will only use the Chinese Language to give archaic words of wisdom, which is usually, and mostly from Confucius, or at least that's how I've always heard from Orientalized people lol. Dickson Poon's idea of the "Western indoctrination" explains the best. Especially whenever you get the urge of not-wanting-to-miss-a-HOLLYWOOD-movie, the UNIVERSAL INFLUENCE. Here's a question KirkandLee: "Don't you find it a lil' strange of why most of the Orientalized are the least controversial compared to their Western counterparts?" It is the basic explanation of why there are so few Oriental philosophers now, compared to the West, which I think, excels in philosophy more than the Orientals. Another explanation is how the Oriental conformity is not encouraging new ways of thinking, new thoughts, and new ideas. With this explanation, it is why I consider the English Language as the language of intelligence, in case you may be wondering why I think you will use that language to express your intellectual side, and since the English Language is usually the bastion of LIBERTY (hint: U.S.A), the idea of LIBERTY, which also means freedom, gives infinite doorways to new thoughts and ideas. Yeap, you will only use the Chinese Language to mingle with other Oriental inclined people, and to quote ancient Oriental philosophers from centuries ago. But whenever an intellectual phenomenon arise, lol, you will use the English Language, because the conformity culture of the Oriental...simply blocks the urge to be controversial in your thoughts and ideas. Now you are just a Chinese, tainted by the West. Who ask you go and be English educated? This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Aug 26 2009, 02:31 AM |
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