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TSMaryWong
post Feb 27 2008, 11:42 AM, updated 18y ago

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Well,
i think this have occur several couples.

my situation is...He, Buddhist. Me, Christian.
At the beginning of the relationship, i once force him to become a christian.
but then, i give up coz i dun wanna him to be so difficult in choosing himself and me.
so i respect him.

now after we together more than 2 years.
he now showing up that i must become a buddhist to so we can marry.
the thing is, my parents will nvr let us marry if he is not christian. But his parents doesnt have this issue, i guess.
so he said, a girl married to a man should follow the man's religion. and must work together as husband and wife
and this is been practices since olden days.

so i argued, i said this is kinda ridiculous. How can possible you can force me to be something that i dun wanna be?
i nvr insist him to become a christian, but now he's forcing me now. There's not respect, discussion and further more.

I'm a strong minded woman, who will not be easy to change my decision.
Everything issues other than to change my religion i will be fine with it.
but why cant he just be tolerate me and stop forcing me?

if you are in the situation, wouldnt you will ask that
"IF malaysia want every citizens to become MUSLIMS, and you have no freedom to choose ur religion,
do you wanna?" shakehead.gif

he speechless and say he will leave the country then.
i said now is not leave or leave but about the relationship.
relationship is not easy to say leave...but it's painful to make a decision that you dun wanna.

what do u all think? unsure.gif
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post Feb 27 2008, 11:44 AM

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Meh WTF is wrong with husband being Buddhist and wife being Christian?

As long as wife helps out (prepare offering etc) when the Buddhist/Taoism/Muslim husband need to pray then ok la... (vice versa)

Bleh... think so much for wat.

This post has been edited by ed0gawa: Feb 27 2008, 11:44 AM
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post Feb 27 2008, 11:47 AM

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Say goodbye lo.

I see there will be A LOT of problem once you married due to this.

In daily life, like or not there is no freedom of religion in married couple.

One have to give up.

And pls do not assume that his parent is ok with the switch unless you hear from them. This is as serious matter to his parent as it is to yours.
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post Feb 27 2008, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(MaryWong @ Feb 27 2008, 11:42 AM)
Well,
i think this have occur several couples.

my situation is...He, Buddhist. Me, Christian.
At the beginning of the relationship, i once force him to become a christian.
but then, i give up coz i dun wanna him to be so difficult in choosing himself and me.
so i respect him.

now after we together more than 2 years.
he now showing up that i must become a buddhist to so we can marry.
the thing is, my parents will nvr let us marry if he is not christian. But his parents doesnt have this issue, i guess.
so he said, a girl married to a man should follow the man's religion. and must work together as husband and wife
and this is been practices since olden days.

so i argued, i said this is kinda ridiculous. How can possible you can force me to be something that i dun wanna be?
i nvr insist him to become a christian, but now he's forcing me now. There's not respect, discussion and further more.

I'm a strong minded woman, who will not be easy to change my decision.
Everything issues other than to change my religion i will be fine with it.
but why cant he just be tolerate me and stop forcing me?

if you are in the situation, wouldnt you will ask that
"IF malaysia want every citizens to become MUSLIMS, and you have no freedom to choose ur religion,
do you wanna?" shakehead.gif

he speechless and say he will leave the country then.
i said now is not leave or leave but about the relationship.
relationship is not easy to say leave...but it's painful to make a decision that you dun wanna.

what do u all think? unsure.gif
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of course a girl married to a man should follow the man's religion
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post Feb 27 2008, 11:53 AM

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notworthy.gif to you MaryWong for being a strong christian.....got to agree with ed0gawa on helping each other out...this is where mutual understanding comes in...and it is really important to continue relationships smile.gif just my 2 cents...


Added on February 27, 2008, 11:54 am
QUOTE(NicolasLau @ Feb 27 2008, 11:51 AM)
of course a girl married to a man should follow the man's religion
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not actually....stone age maybe....

This post has been edited by timpete: Feb 27 2008, 11:54 AM
wingcross
post Feb 27 2008, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(MaryWong @ Feb 27 2008, 11:42 AM)
Well,
i think this have occur several couples.

my situation is...He, Buddhist. Me, Christian.
At the beginning of the relationship, i once force him to become a christian.
but then, i give up coz i dun wanna him to be so difficult in choosing himself and me.
so i respect him.

now after we together more than 2 years.
he now showing up that i must become a buddhist to so we can marry.
the thing is, my parents will nvr let us marry if he is not christian. But his parents doesnt have this issue, i guess.
so he said, a girl married to a man should follow the man's religion. and must work together as husband and wife
and this is been practices since olden days.

so i argued, i said this is kinda ridiculous. How can possible you can force me to be something that i dun wanna be?
i nvr insist him to become a christian, but now he's forcing me now. There's not respect, discussion and further more.

I'm a strong minded woman, who will not be easy to change my decision.
Everything issues other than to change my religion i will be fine with it.
but why cant he just be tolerate me and stop forcing me?



he speechless and say he will leave the country then.
i said now is not leave or leave but about the relationship.
relationship is not easy to say leave...but it's painful to make a decision that you dun wanna.

what do u all think? unsure.gif
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u once force him to become a christian before. then later u say u never insists him ?
cant comment much here, i experienced this before, i got "excommunicated" in the end.

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if you are in the situation, wouldnt you will ask that
"IF malaysia want every citizens to become MUSLIMS, and you have no freedom to choose ur religion,
do you wanna?" shakehead.gif
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i dun understand this part. but anyway, both of u need not convert. but maybe there are more to it, as why the religion issues start now, not when u both started the relationship. it can be someone there hantu api ur bf. i hope no hantu api on ur side.


Added on February 27, 2008, 12:07 pm
QUOTE(NicolasLau @ Feb 27 2008, 11:51 AM)
of course a girl married to a man should follow the man's religion
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doesnt applies anymore. but in the bible, a woman supposed to submit to the husband, and the husband must also respect and something like that. thats all. no conversion neccessary applies here.

This post has been edited by wingcross: Feb 27 2008, 12:07 PM
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post Feb 27 2008, 12:23 PM

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it's good u dropped the expectation for him to convert to christianity. it's unfortunate tat instead, he dropped his parent's condition on u. on top of it, saying he will leave the country, sounds like u r given the final choice to convert or break-up. if u convert, does it mean he will stay and not leave the country? the whole story not told.

for my case, she insisted that the 'hubby' must be stronger/deeper in christian faith than her. coming fr a non-christian bground, it's not like i can jst pick up the bible and change my faith. she's strong-will and faith combined whereas im stubborn and realistic. even if she accepted me as i am, the church would not recognise the sanctity of our marriage. she chosed the church of cos and (quote) im the devil and going to hell (unquote) sad.gif


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post Feb 27 2008, 12:37 PM

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Your bf is stupid. Never heard that a Buddhist will force a Christian to convert. Only Christian force Buddhist to convert. Because Buddhist is not a religion to begin with. I think your bf is Taoism. If your bf is Taoism, better leave him because Taoism is consider Devil in Christianity. Why sleep with a devil?


Added on February 27, 2008, 12:38 pmAnd I think, he just want to break up with you. Religion is just excuse. Have you slept with him?

This post has been edited by gogo2: Feb 27 2008, 12:38 PM
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post Feb 27 2008, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(leenux @ Feb 27 2008, 12:23 PM)
it's good u dropped the expectation for him to convert to christianity. it's unfortunate tat instead, he dropped his parent's condition on u. on top of it, saying he will leave the country, sounds like u r given the final choice to convert or break-up. if u convert, does it mean he will stay and not leave the country? the whole story not told.

for my case, she insisted that the 'hubby' must be stronger/deeper in christian faith than her. coming fr a non-christian bground, it's not like i can jst pick up the bible and change my faith. she's strong-will and faith combined whereas im stubborn and realistic. even if she accepted me as i am, the church would not recognise the sanctity of our marriage. she chosed the church of cos and (quote) im the devil and going to hell (unquote) sad.gif
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She's a b*tch for even saying that.

QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 27 2008, 12:37 PM)
Your bf is stupid. Never heard that a Buddhist will force a Christian to convert. Only Christian force Buddhist to convert. Because Buddhist is not a religion to begin with. I think your bf is Taoism. If your bf is Taoism, better leave him because Taoism is consider Devil in Christianity. Why sleep with a devil?


Added on February 27, 2008, 12:38 pmAnd I think, he just want to break up with you. Religion is just excuse. Have you slept with him?
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Why start calling people devil!?
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post Feb 27 2008, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Feb 27 2008, 12:43 PM)
Why start calling people devil!?
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You don't know about Christian meh? I went to a Christian devil casting ceremony.
They keep on casting out Taoism god such as Tua Pek Kong etc. Its a general idea
that Christian think god in Taoism is devilish.

What do you think?
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post Feb 27 2008, 12:51 PM

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MaryWong, any suggestion here shouldnt be put into ur relationship.
In any case ur going to marry him, its going to be a Buddhist-Christian.
A mix, in a simplified word. There is nothing to choose about.

I understands how a strong Christian believer would be and a Buddhist as well.
Something to share, I have a relative whom his dad is a Christian and mum a Buddhist.
They go to Church together on Sunday and to the Buddhist temple, i.e Wesak day. Its needless to ask ones to convert.
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post Feb 27 2008, 12:53 PM

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lol DEVIL ....

Got call
monkey god and zhu ba jie or not?
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post Feb 27 2008, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 27 2008, 12:49 PM)
You don't know about Christian meh? I went to a Christian devil casting ceremony.
They keep on casting out Taoism god such as Tua Pek Kong etc. Its a general idea
that Christian think god in Taoism is devilish.

What do you think?
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It's people like this that makes the world a sad, sad place.

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post Feb 27 2008, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Feb 27 2008, 12:53 PM)
It's people like this that makes the world a sad, sad place.
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I'm not the one who say Taoism god is devil la. Its Christian mah.
Just fyi, I'm atheist. I'm just telling the truth la. No hard feeling. Coz
we now trying to solve her problem. We need to be frank in our talk.

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post Feb 27 2008, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Feb 27 2008, 12:43 PM)
She's a b*tch for even saying that.
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pls dun call her tat. the quote is not from her. if u know/read abt the bible - non-christians are labeled as devils.

she's my best fren and we're both still in good terms. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 27 2008, 01:47 PM

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Take it or leave it...Is simple as nut.....
You & him cant force each other into religion....To me is not a big deal btwn buddhist or christian.....unless u say is malay then different case.......
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For TS, a simple note* for you regarding marriage.

Buddisht never mentioned that both of couple needed to be a Buddisht in order to get married. No and never.

The law is simple, love each other, and one of the person must be a buddisht if the couple wish to get married in their way.

So, the excuse that your current bf saying that you need to convert to buddisht so that you and him can get married is a lie. Keep that in mind.

For Christian, I don't know. Perhaps, somemore could enlighten TS.
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QUOTE(leenux @ Feb 27 2008, 01:35 PM)
pls dun call her tat.  the quote is not from her. if u know/read abt the bible - non-christians are labeled as devils.


care to quote a scripture?
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Feb 27 2008, 02:03 PM)
care to quote a scripture?
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no.. but i can introduce u to the pastor, 10 minutes talk abt tat nod.gif

anyway, to the TS - good luck. hope everything will go well on your end.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Feb 27 2008, 02:03 PM)
care to quote a scripture?
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I guess you never in BnNB thread. Yes, we, the non-believers always being asked where the scripture
that say certain things which is being generalize by us. For example, where in the scripture say that
earth is flat?

The answer is, no, the scripture does not say such stupid thing. But unfortunately, Christianity is not
confined to scripture whether you like it or not. It is the community. You might disagree with me but
this is a fact.

And the fact is, we, the non-believers are always deemed to be controlled by devil, but not the devil.
But I think that's what he meant anyway. smile.gif

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