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> Lampe Berger & Estebel Issues V III, Beware of DCHL,SYN and RZ Corporation!

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post Jan 14 2013, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(eikozai @ Jan 14 2013, 02:28 PM)
This is old. They no longer in MLM, banned. Now they're in commercial - u come, u see,u wan, u buy, then u take home. You come, u see, u dunwan buy, no problem.. they still serve u with spirits and still friendly.

i asked tonnes of questions and walked off like its not there, and decide to come back later, they still serve me well. Walked off coz i wanna do some online survey if they r selling overprice but i find that they have standardizes it at much lower and affordable cost.

Product wise, i would say they r still one of the top, but if u r comparing to their previous MLM in terms of branding, of coz, its kinda spoilt.

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I'm not defending them or one of their stuffs, but im here to share my experience to be their customer.
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old?
howcome they not in MLM while last 2 weeks i was introduce to their business plan scheme? hmm.gif
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post Jan 14 2013, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(xsan @ Jan 14 2013, 02:43 PM)
old?
howcome they not in MLM while last 2 weeks i was introduce to their business plan scheme? hmm.gif
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u mean business plan as in :

- u pay me x amount of money
- i give u x amonut of product

this kinda scheme?

i thought that's called business?
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post Jan 14 2013, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Jan 14 2013, 02:50 PM)
u mean business plan as in :

- u pay me x amount of money
- i give u x amonut of product

this kinda scheme?

i thought that's called business?
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their bizniz plan that the leader explain like this..

u invest some amout.. they give some product + some test items..
u can either sell ur item product or use it..
then invite people to join ur downline to get ur income..

bonus : they force people to get loan from friends/family to pay for the bizniz plan
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post Jan 14 2013, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(xsan @ Jan 14 2013, 02:56 PM)
their bizniz plan that the leader explain like this..

u invest some amout.. they give some product + some test items..
u can either sell ur item product or use it..
then invite people to join ur downline to get ur income..

bonus : they force people to get loan from friends/family to pay for the bizniz plan
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eh..their biznis plan is like all other business i see ler..
when i wanna start off any business...they plan is also the same...

i take product from A party..then i sell them to everyone else....
then i hire some sales person to help me sell the product...

so...dont u think it's like a normal business?


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post Jan 14 2013, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Jan 14 2013, 03:00 PM)
eh..their biznis plan is like all other business i see ler..
when i wanna start off any business...they plan is also the same...

i take product from A party..then i sell them to everyone else....
then i hire some sales person to help me sell the product...

so...dont u think it's like a normal business?
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hmm.gif
invite people to join is equal to hire sales person ? hmm.gif
their plan also state easy income..
just talks and talks.. and invite people to join business plan only
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post Jan 14 2013, 03:06 PM

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lolz this company still alive .. i see one shop at Sg Wang
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post Jan 14 2013, 03:34 PM

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Guess u still met with old jerk who try to con u and sell u their old stucked products. The MLM have been banned 2-3 years ago and i think in year 2012 they have started in commercial market n that's y we see booths in supermarkets. If still in MLM, they r not allowed to sell in supermarkets booths/shops.
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QUOTE(eikozai @ Jan 14 2013, 03:34 PM)
Guess u still met with old jerk who try to con u and sell u their old stucked products. The MLM have been banned 2-3 years ago and i think in year 2012 they have started in commercial market n that's y we see booths in supermarkets. If still in MLM, they r not allowed to sell in supermarkets booths/shops.
u must be Lampe Berger tauke, deswai seem so butthurt to defend this co...
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post Jan 14 2013, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(xsan @ Jan 14 2013, 03:06 PM)
hmm.gif
invite people to join is equal to hire sales person ? hmm.gif
their plan also state easy income..
just talks and talks.. and invite people to join business plan only
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i think u never do business before...
it's ok...let me share with u how normal business works...

normal business :
u get product from A company, then sell to market
in the process, u might want to hire salesperson, where u pay them...
and when u want to expand ur business, but dont have sufficient fund, u look for partners to invest in it...

so mind sharing how lampe berger works? which is different from normal business conduct?
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post Jan 14 2013, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Jan 14 2013, 03:37 PM)
i think u never do business before...
it's ok...let me share with u how normal business works...

normal business :
u get product from A company, then sell to market
in the process, u might want to hire salesperson, where u pay them...
and when u want to expand ur business, but dont have sufficient fund, u look for partners to invest in it...

so mind sharing how lampe berger works? which is different from normal business conduct?
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have you been in their talk?
does 'buying rank' rings a bell?
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post Jan 14 2013, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Jan 14 2013, 03:37 PM)
i think u never do business before...
it's ok...let me share with u how normal business works...

normal business :
u get product from A company, then sell to market
in the process, u might want to hire salesperson, where u pay them...
and when u want to expand ur business, but dont have sufficient fund, u look for partners to invest in it...

so mind sharing how lampe berger works? which is different from normal business conduct?
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u never go to their talks rite?

their business plan ..
u invest money..
u invite people to join this business plan get income..
not for selling item.. not for selling products..
there is no salesperson thingy in here..

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post Jan 14 2013, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(sendoh_7 @ Jan 14 2013, 03:43 PM)
have you been in their talk?
does 'buying rank' rings a bell?
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only once very long time ago....jst like herbal life, amway, elken, neway...
their business concept is part of what reality business is like...

u pay x amount, they give u x product, then u go sell and make profit....

but i kenot see what's so different from their business style vs other legit business like opening ur own shop, or buying franchise license like chatime or mcd..?
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QUOTE(sendoh_7 @ Jan 14 2013, 04:43 PM)
have you been in their talk?
does 'buying rank' rings a bell?
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Buy more. rank up higher. E.g. starter is 2k then you're at 1 star member. Put more $$ (maybe 10k above?) then you can straight promote 5 star member.

Almost kena, nowadays weekday passby that menara also I think still got ppl got scammed. Now I mostly walk around The Weld and there got a MLM product as well.
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QUOTE(andrewcha @ Jan 14 2013, 04:48 PM)
Buy more. rank up higher. E.g. starter is 2k then you're at 1 star member. Put more $$ (maybe 10k above?) then you can straight promote 5 star member.

Almost kena, nowadays weekday passby that menara also I think still got ppl got scammed. Now I mostly walk around The Weld and there got a MLM product as well.
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this can be explanable in "normal business practice" as well..

"buy more" (lunch/dinner/hampers)..... you're a "star retailer" .. so wholesaler will gip special preference and discount to you.


I think LB might restart their MLM concept literally...... they might open booth is every floor of the same mall ? ... still multi-level right? LOL.

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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jan 14 2013, 04:52 PM)
this can be explanable in "normal business practice"  as well..

"buy more"  (lunch/dinner/hampers)..... you're a "star retailer" .. so wholesaler will gip special preference and discount to you.
I think LB might restart their MLM concept literally...... they might open booth is every floor of the same mall ? ... still multi-level right? LOL.
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LOL. Make sense as well. Tak kesah really. Not a perfume user also. Was been dragged there before and showing me all the expensive pen to do their signature and show their car that they get. I am not bashing about the MLM concept but come to think of it at the end the real fella who get the benefit will always not be us.

Booth in every floor? Which shopping mall?
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post Jan 14 2013, 04:01 PM

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i remember my bro also kena this, until now my house cupboard still got plenty these doh.gif
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Lately they r movin under the name dchl rz corporation n they r using the kpdnkk guide called hala tuju jualan langsung(can get from kpdnkk websites) as their support~ any comment guy~
Jz been to their 5 hours bla3x few days ago~ haha!! so tiring...................
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QUOTE(Pilaf050 @ Jan 25 2013, 02:33 PM)
Lately they r movin under the name dchl rz corporation n they r using the kpdnkk guide called hala tuju jualan langsung(can get from kpdnkk websites) as their support~ any comment guy~
Jz been to their 5 hours bla3x few days ago~ haha!! so tiring...................
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did their leader ask u to borrow money from friends/relative? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Pilaf050 @ Jan 25 2013, 02:33 PM)
Lately they r movin under the name dchl rz corporation n they r using the kpdnkk guide called hala tuju jualan langsung(can get from kpdnkk websites) as their support~ any comment guy~
Jz been to their 5 hours bla3x few days ago~ haha!! so tiring...................
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What info they give?

tarik people become downline?

joining fee?


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post Feb 22 2013, 12:29 PM

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just now lunch one of koliq try brainwash me join some mc ocean mlm

i have read it was a scam last time

no wonder he so nice drive me out and treat me eat lunch
brainswash strategy

why so many people scamming?

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