go for E2160.. cheaper...

...No offence but this is AMD Thread lar

Thank you bro.
How about the performance compare to F3 OC??

I know bro.I am just asking opinions because i have been thinking to join the darkside but its really damn hard for me to leave AMD clan.
Thats why i need opinions before i make the next move.

My latest oc.





Could do the same speed with 4-5-4 timings but that needed higher vdimm so ill settle with this setting for now.

(refer to my new oc below a few posts instead. tq)

This post has been edited by awh85: Mar 15 2008, 01:40 AM

gud..try tighten the tRAS and tRC..make 5-5-5-5-11

previously i had 5-5-5-5-x but sked too tight timings will kill my ram. got such thing? lol

ull kill ur ram if the vdimm is too high..try tighten and test with orthos.

tRC can set to 11, no problem for D9GMH

ok thanks. will give it a go later on. tempted to give CL4 timings another go but the vdimm required is .

added : now im using a safer vdimm of 2.01-2.05 only.

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Added on March 15, 2008, 12:40 amadded : now i can get it a 5-5-5-5-11 2T but had to loosen my MAL to 11. TRFC is at 105. testing for stability now.

This post has been edited by awh85: Mar 15 2008, 12:40 AM

i u feels hard to leave the clan, then juz get ur self an intel rig and dun sell ur AMD rig la...
test intel 1st.. if it satisfies u, then u sell la ur AMD rig...
get ur self a cheapo P35 mobo adn an E2160... should cost around RM500 for both...
but still, u should know that from the term of OCability, even the E2160 can beat F3 proc...
but from terms of performance, i dunno.. i got both intel and amd rig but i also never compared the performance... hahaha...
but intel are quite fun to OC...

i also feels like leaving the clan, but i've used AMD almost all my life since their K6 proc... even when i use my intel rig i feel weird.. hahahaha

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u use wat u feel is right for u....

This post has been edited by casperito: Mar 15 2008, 04:41 AM

avoid usin half multi even yas is brisby bro... ya ram cud have run @ lower speed as what shown in cpu-z.

really nice brisby there...


by d way guys, no one can help on d mal issue of mine ar...

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Mar 15 2008, 12:43 AM

from i start learn oc till now, i couldnt figure out how to change my multiplier from the default 9.5

btw, why would i want to run lower speed?

maybe u can wait for the pros to answer u about mal, i also simply tweak only until can work.

This post has been edited by awh85: Mar 15 2008, 12:46 AM

Just some of my experiences sharing.
When you're stuck at ram oc on D9GMH,
Don't think of loosing the timings only,
Try to tight the timings if loosing the timings fails you
D9GMH has unique characteristic, it loves to be tighten.
(eg. MAL changes to 6ns instead of using 10ns, 10ns is too loose for D9GMH actually )
Also, make sure the ram is as cool as possible.
I have this experience, i can use my ram at 1266MHz 5-5-4-3-2T when it's fresh and cool,
but once it's getting hot , i need to change my tRFC value to 127.5NS in order to work stably.

oh, never knew about that coz my normal thinking would be if tight kenot, then lagi tight sure kenot lol

maybe my trfc i need to change to 127.5 also, coz now at 105 i feel the ram is not cool at all. any side effects if i change to 195 or 3xx?

added the changed i did just now



This post has been edited by awh85: Mar 15 2008, 01:09 AM

trfc sticks to 75NS always for D9GMH
try to active cool the ram when performing ram oc

actually my OC i always target 24/7 usage one. dun have any form of active cooling here. just have some cheap heatspreaders only.

(btw, are the heatspreaders for absorbing the heat or what?)

will try tightening the mal and trfc now. =D

remember this,
ram killer = overheat , overvoltage , tight timings + high frequency
my advise is try to get a ram cooler if u plan to oc for 24/7 usage.
Most of the heatspreaders don't work well actually ,
even it is working well, at the end you need active cooling as well.

icic, will look into active cooling then

my mal value i changed to 6 in the bios and can post, but once i changed trfc to 75 from 105 then cant post. lowered MAL to 5 then can already.

but according to memset here, my mal value is 8, but i set it as 5 in the bios.

which one is correct? or did the bios auto adjust for me or something?



btw, is my ram considered safe?

This post has been edited by awh85: Mar 15 2008, 01:30 AM

the memset one is correct.
i guess it is bios bug, the MAL setting is not working eventhough you already set it
Try to flash bios if u willing to set it in bios ( but i'm not sure whether they fix it in later bios or not)
oh ya, don't use MAL 6ns for long term, i got bad feeling if u do so
IMHO, the MAL just leave it as auto should be fine.
TA690G's bios is D9GMH-friendly

icic, so right now its 8 which i assume is auto/bug problem but its preferred to 6ns which not be suitable. so, ill just leave my settings like this then. thanks lots =D