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Sony-Ericsson All new G900 and G700 from SonyEricsson, G for giraffe? 'G' is the new 'N'-series

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davidmak
post Jun 24 2008, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(Travies @ Jun 24 2008, 04:56 PM)
so dissapointing, 262k color again.. sigh sony, shd make it 16.7 million color d lar
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It is an architectural limitation. To do 16.7 million color, SE would have to revamp its entire processor platform. Anyway I seriously doubt Nokia N-series can do 16.7 million real colors. Its more like color dithering process and near-pixel manipulation to give you that amount of colors. Granted the LCD must be able to support more than 262k addressing, the ARM9/11 used is only a 16bit MCU. So you do the math.

That is also the main reason why most PDA phones are limited to 65k colors on their LCD although many sported 262k capable LCD panels.
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QUOTE(acwc @ Jun 23 2008, 11:09 PM)
may i know what are the bad comments that u heard??
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well, i heard it from a fren of mine....

1. he said the cam is bad.... (maybe becoz of the small lense)
2. battery life.... (i suppose its due to brutal usage on touch screen) whistling.gif whistling.gif
3. limited 3rd part application.... (well uiq 3 is way behind s60 in this)

so, wat u guys think? would the be an improvement by SE? sad.gif sad.gif

Davidmak....
u seems to noe a lot about SE platform.... u work for them or sumthing? tongue.gif tongue.gif

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QUOTE(charles_nkj @ Jun 24 2008, 05:44 PM)
well, i heard it from a fren of mine....

1. he said the cam is bad.... (maybe becoz of the small lense)
2. battery life.... (i suppose its due to brutal usage on touch screen) whistling.gif  whistling.gif
3. limited 3rd part application.... (well uiq 3 is way behind s60 in this)

so, wat u guys think? would the be an improvement by SE? sad.gif  sad.gif

Davidmak....
u seems to noe a lot about SE platform.... u work for them or sumthing? tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Ah, the usual assumption that one knows too much will be associated with whatever company he speaks on. tongue.gif

The answer is no because you can get these information from esato forums, gsmarena, mobile-review, etc. If you want me to speak on Nokia's platform, I am just as competent. Hehehe!

By the way, UIQ is an UI interface (with touch capability) that sits on top of the Symbian kernel. It is an extension to the Symbian OS just like S60. Both are Symbian. Now there's a good chance for a software to work on S60 will work with UIQ. Not all will though. You can find a lot of UIQ applications if you search hard enough. GPS navigation applications for example are available on all mobile OS platforms. Of course, it is not as robust and scalable as S60 but it has a pretty good track record so far.

Also most games that you download from internet or telco are J2ME based and they can run cross-platforms. Its essentially JAVA. The only requirement is that the resolution must be correct/match your display resolution and in some cases, the soft keys must be correct.

Then again, your friend is right to a certain extend. I am not a great fan of UIQ, in fact I am a new user. G900 is my first UIQ phone and so far my experience has been pleasant. rclxms.gif
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post Jun 25 2008, 08:53 AM

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yahoo good for u.. we must have more sony ericsson user.. then price more cheaper.. hahahah then pawn all the phone.. NO KIA will gone.. make it gone man... hahaha sony ericsson must get no 2 spot bak.... maybe in malaysia got no 3 sony ericsson.. tats my opinion. also usin w960 bigger screen more satisfied.. wit the 8gb hard disk
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QUOTE(spideysam @ Jun 25 2008, 08:53 AM)
yahoo good for u.. we must have more sony ericsson user.. then price more cheaper.. hahahah then pawn all the phone.. NO KIA will gone.. make it gone man... hahaha sony ericsson must get no 2 spot bak.... maybe in malaysia got no 3 sony ericsson.. tats my opinion. also usin w960 bigger screen more satisfied.. wit the 8gb hard disk
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do me a favour and stop spamming unnecessarily on threads to increase yr post counts. Thank you.
David,so far any hangs experience on yr hp ?
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QUOTE(doomx @ Jun 25 2008, 10:33 AM)
do me a favour and stop spamming unnecessarily on threads to increase yr post counts. Thank you.
David,so far any hangs experience on yr hp ?
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The stability is marvelous since I used to have a bad impression on UIQ-enabled phones. I chose the G900 because it was optimized for finger usage. So far it has not 'hanged' except for one time when I was scanning for WIFI hotspot while streaming from youtube. I guess that more like a user error. Other than that, it has been behaving reliably.

One thing I would like to see G900 improve is the smoothness of the UI. I saw a lot of video previews which shows the G900 having really smooth transitions. I think with new software update, its possible. Also the Messaging section is a little bit stuttering. Whenever, you touch on a message, it flashes a few times before showing you the content (more like refreshing the message). So I'm very sure thats a bug that can be eliminated.

I've tried loading a lot (and I mean A LOT) of programs into the memory. At one point I loaded more than 30 applications including GPS navigation software, games, bible reader, pdf reader, quick office, sms, mms, web with a few pages loaded including one with youtube streaming, media center, etc. The remaining memory still have around 25MB and I still get very quick response from the OS. I can still make a call and multitask (as in switching from one program in memory to another). The 128MB is virtually 'unfinishable'. Then I did one thing. I used Swiss Manager Pro and I hit the end all application. And it diligently quit every program one by one without any problem. Pretty robust. I am beginning to build the trust on the phone now.

I really like the transflective display which doesn't loose contrast when viewing in the sun so GPS navigation is very usable unlike my previous LG KS20 which fades so much you can't see anything but the screen. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jun 25 2008, 02:20 PM)
The stability is marvelous since I used to have a bad impression on UIQ-enabled phones. I chose the G900 because it was optimized for finger usage. So far it has not 'hanged' except for one time when I was scanning for WIFI hotspot while streaming from youtube. I guess that more like a user error. Other than that, it has been behaving reliably.

One thing I would like to see G900 improve is the smoothness of the UI. I saw a lot of video previews which shows the G900 having really smooth transitions. I think with new software update, its possible. Also the Messaging section is a little bit stuttering. Whenever, you touch on a message, it flashes a few times before showing you the content (more like refreshing the message). So I'm very sure thats a bug that can be eliminated.

I've tried loading a lot (and I mean A LOT) of programs into the memory. At one point I loaded more than 30 applications including GPS navigation software, games, bible reader, pdf reader, quick office, sms, mms, web with a few pages loaded including one with youtube streaming, media center, etc. The remaining memory still have around 25MB and I still get very quick response from the OS. I can still make a call and multitask (as in switching from one program in memory to another). The 128MB is virtually 'unfinishable'. Then I did one thing. I used Swiss Manager Pro and I hit the end all application. And it diligently quit every program one by one without any problem. Pretty robust. I am beginning to build the trust on the phone now.

I really like the transflective display which doesn't loose contrast when viewing in the sun so GPS navigation is very usable unlike my previous LG KS20 which fades so much you can't see anything but the screen.  biggrin.gif
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wow..seems like G900 is pretty good after read this positive comment on it..haha...worth to get it??????
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QUOTE(acwc @ Jun 25 2008, 02:47 PM)
wow..seems like G900 is pretty good after read this positive comment on it..haha...worth to get it??????
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Worth definitely worth it one lar. But depends on how you see it lor. I can't say you should buy it or ignore it. Kekekeke! Later people will tembak me or say I work for Sony Ericsson or this handphone shop or etc. I'm selling one unit you see. So I am at a conflict of interest here. Kekekeke! Maybe more users should feedback to this thread.

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hey david, where did you dl your swiss manager pro? i tried to google, but they only provide trial versions, or are yours trial too?
just got myself a red G900 yesterday XD.

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QUOTE(rayzrblade @ Jun 25 2008, 03:26 PM)
hey david, where did you dl your swiss manager pro? i tried to google, but they only provide trial versions, or are yours trial too?
just got myself a red G900 yesterday XD.
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u can search at dotsis forum under UIQ subforums to find swiss manager pro ahem2 version
ipmart forum n dotsis forum provide many ahem2 software for UIQ, s60 n etc
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ahem ahem biggrin.gif tongue.gif biggrin.gif
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Hi all, it have been 1 month since the release of the G900 phone. Still no news about the availability of the ori set or the pricing yet?
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jun 25 2008, 04:26 PM)
ahem ahem  biggrin.gif  tongue.gif  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(squall_kay @ Jun 25 2008, 04:53 PM)
shhhhhh.....nnti later kene warning dgn mod  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(deathclaw @ Jun 25 2008, 04:26 PM)
Hi all, it have been 1 month since the release of the G900 phone. Still no news about the availability of the ori set or the pricing yet?
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Yeah no availability yet. Even AP is limited in quantity and only available in red. Black/dark brown is almost non-existent. I heard that it'll take another week or two for the original to arrive. Probably stuck at SIRIM or paper works for SE Malaysia.
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cool... davidmak
where n how much did u bought ur unit? from shop or lyn? whistling.gif whistling.gif

u said u run numerous applications on it...
then i still hav few questions to ask....
1. does the fone get "warm"?
2. how is the battery life under for heavy users?
3. is there any film protector for this fone? i seen 1 4 k850 (not lens cover), just not too sure abt this fone... rclxub.gif
*its like a screen protector, oni the difference is that u put this 1 one the lense instead of the lcd screen* whistling.gif

hope to hear from u soon..... aka sum1 affiliate to SE company brows.gif
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QUOTE(charles_nkj @ Jun 25 2008, 05:22 PM)
cool... davidmak
where n how much did u bought ur unit? from shop or lyn? whistling.gif  whistling.gif

u said u run numerous applications on it...
then i still hav few questions to ask....
1. does the fone get "warm"?
2. how is the battery life under for heavy users?
3. is there any film protector for this fone? i seen 1 4 k850 (not lens cover),  just not too sure abt this fone... rclxub.gif 
*its like a screen protector, oni the difference is that u put this 1 one the lense instead of the lcd screen* whistling.gif

hope to hear from u soon..... aka sum1 affiliate to SE company brows.gif
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I got it as a present and to my knowledge it is around the price of RM15xx with bluetooth headset. The shop name is in Lowyat First Floor... Gadget something. Forgot already.

Anyway to answer your questions:

1. This is one of the best parts of the phone. It doesn't get warm during recharging and when running intensive applications. At least throughout my entire experience so far. However, I have not speak on the phone for extended period of time so I am not able to comment on that part.

2. Battery life so far has been mediocre. At most is only 2 days. Probably shorter if you use it extensively.

3. There is film protector for the LCD screen but not on the lens though. It is a small area to cover actually.

I am only an enthusiast since I am owning this phone and I am happy about it. That is what I am doing here - to give the right information to future users.
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Hey davidmak, how to stream youtube video with G900? REALLY GOING TO GET IT ALREADY.... just waiting my money to be collected.
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sorry for the trouble guys, hehe!
i'm not as lucky as david... My G900 crashed a few times when I was tryin to connect to wifi... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Jeffery @ Jun 26 2008, 01:00 AM)
Hey davidmak, how to stream youtube video with G900? REALLY GOING TO GET IT ALREADY.... just waiting my money to be collected.
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Its easy. There are two ways to do it.

1. Open up your browser, connect to the internet (via WIFI or 3G/data plan), type in www.youtube.com and it'll bring you there.
2. You can use a program called CorePlayer with flv support. You got to buy it though.

Basically coreplayer will give you a better rendering quality. I've tried streaming on browser and the quality isn't good. A lot of artifacts. But my comments on coreplayer is based on assumptions from hearsay. I have not personally used coreplayer yet. So take it as it is.

QUOTE(rayzrblade @ Jun 26 2008, 02:37 AM)
sorry for the trouble guys, hehe!
i'm not as lucky as david... My G900 crashed a few times when I was tryin to connect to wifi... sweat.gif
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So have you been able to connect to any WIFI? If you aren't, there could be a problem. Try a full reset.
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aiks g900 firmware crashes when in wifi... lucky bought w960.. thought of buyin g900... maybe se must release newer firmware fast.. hope SE X1 come out faster... hehehehe

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