ok , we understand ... KTA IS WAY BETTER

Yeah, we understand, we understand.....

no need to start your line with

'you don't understand' ......

Hey, computers from vendor is way better, certified, guaranteed.... Dell/Acer/Alienware .... so everyone should buy from them?
Then all the shop in Lowyat close down cos no one ever built their own anymore?

KTA is certified, but if KVR or other value ram works like charm and don't caused any problem. What's wrong with it? Here is not UK or US where the price difference between KTA and KVR is just the price of a meal. We are talking DOUBLE here.

ed0gawa.
you sound angry. its not about its from vendor or not from vendor. its manufactured to a different specification, which is Apple's specification. that way, its guaranteed not to cause problems.
if the ValueRAM works fine, sure it works fine. if it does not, do you think the shop you bought it from will let you give it back simply because it doesn't work on your Mac?

final analysis, its your computer. if you use parts that don't meet the manufacturer's spec, its still your computer and you get to fix it.

Agree with xaw5126.

If your KVR RAM is working, then it is.
If it is not, then it is not. It is like playing around.

To play safe, get certified Apple RAMs. As simple as that.

Anyway, what is KTA stands for..?

I remember reading somewhere that all ram in this world are produced solely by a few number of company. You will see lots of brands around with the same specs and stuff. but thre are price differences between them. It's like they choose the best 10% and sell it at a higher price, because it's tested and guranteed good, then the rest 90%, they will sell to other company and then chop other company signature and sell as their own. All in all, they are from the same production house. Out of so many ram production, there are alot of faulty pieces lying around. If you are going for KVR, chances of getting a faulty ram is much higher, may be by 10%? (just a rough count) Because the production of ram requires expensive stuff and expensive method. It's a field where margin is tight and small. Something similiar to paper industry, where the profit margin is very small, unless you do it big scale.

xaw5126,

Thanks for the reply.

You guys could think of it as "insurance". KTA is buying RAM and the assurance it will work. KVR on the other hand, so far has worked for many Mac users, but may cause problems.

Does Apple or Kingston specify whether or not KTA and KVR RAMs are different in any way besides the extra buck for insurance, branding and guarantee? That way we can come to a verdict on whether or not people are merely paying for the branding, or is there something behind it all in reality?

This post has been edited by Samanoske Akechi: Feb 7 2008, 11:39 AM

yes, they do. but this isn't the place to answer that question.

may I ask again, why do LY.net members hardly ever google, instead they always seem to be asking questions here, which are easily and immediately answered by someone else, somewhere else?

my personal advise is, if I buy my macbook or macbook pro from a place that I am comfortable. I will go back to the same reseller to ask for advise, unless you know what you are getting.
Usually the Apple store has their certified technician and they know what RAM is good for what machines, I dunt think so their will sell you something that end up gets complaints from customer. unless they make a huge mistake which seldom the case.

This post has been edited by sonnettech-asia: Feb 7 2008, 12:37 PM

Looks like no one agree with ed0gawa, don't worry mate I'm on your side. Agree with him when he said Here is not UK or US where the price difference between KTA and KVR is just the price of a meal. We are talking DOUBLE here. I would buy the KVR and if there's problem I don't think going back to the shop and change to a new one will cost you double the price.

Anyway, I've use KVR ram for my iBook, iMac and MacBook for this past 5 to 6 years and so far, I faced no problem because before buy I bring my Mac together and tell the shop I will only buy if they allow me to test the RAM first and if no kernel panic problem I will buy it. So far, all the shop I went, allow me to do that.

Maybe I do that because I didn't own much money to spend double like some of you, but at least, it's satisfy me

It's like international shipping fees You pay an extra buck for insurance, then you can feel assured that your expenditure is guranteed. Pay less without insurance, you'll still get your shipment most of the time, but still there is a heightened probability of losing your item during shipping.

It's all about how much you're willing to spend

Most people are talking about Kingston, just because the name is more often mentioned, I would say do consider Corsair Value Ram, I had then for more than a year now, no problems whatsoever.

Correct me if i'm wrong, Kingston Value Rams are tested randomly, means not every piece of ram out of the factory are tested, whereas Corsair tests each and every piece.

I'm using Corsair too.. so far so good =)

For information, Epicentre @ Pavillion also run the same promotion..