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post Apr 22 2008, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(destroyer @ Apr 21 2008, 11:52 AM)
owh2. sorry. i'd forgot about the last sentences in your previous post.

so, UTM diploma student will be entering straight 3rd year degree.

while poli and other diploma will be entering the 2nd year.

matric, stpm will be entering 1st year. i see...

so. i finally get it.

UTM diploma student take 6 years to complete degree.
Poli and other diploma take min 7 years.
matric take 6 years.
stpm take 7 years.

i see. my father was ok with me going into poli. although he always wanted me to be engineer. just that, my mom don't like it. because to her, poli have no class. die ckp saya buat malu keluarga je kalo pegi poli. many of my teacher and friends saying that it'll be stupid for me to reject matric and go to poli. kawan2 mak pun sama. sumer duk suruh mak jgn bg saya pegi poli. biasak r org pompuan. potpetpotpet. ni x baik, tu x baik. nnt bile dh loaded suruh gak minang anak die. haha. pdulikkan ape yg sy melalut. because, my brother is doing his medic in egypt under MARA. she also think that architecture is even lower ranked than engineering. hard to convince her. If possible, i want to enter architecture from matric because it'll save me 1 year. but, even if i get into architecture from matriculation, with no basic in art, i afraid that i might have a very hard time in degree.

but, right now, until i can convince my mother. i'll be pursuing architecture using matriculation route. right now, i afraid that i'll not able to catch-up matriculation syllabus.

sbenarnye takut gak nk tolak prmintaan mak. bukan pe. takut nnt kalo bwat perkara x diredhai mak nnt x dpt keberkatan. tu r. mne tau, sbb mak x suke saya bwat architecture, nnt tetiba saya xdpt bawak pelajaran.

@azarimy. is there any possibilities for poli student who perform very well in their diploma to skip into 3rd year instead of entering it in 2nd year?
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well, i cant promise u anything about entering 3rd year. at the moment there's no provision for poly students to skip to 3rd year. and it has not happened in the past.

and good luck in ur decision making wink.gif.

QUOTE(yuexia @ Apr 21 2008, 03:56 PM)
OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD
I just checked the mohe web and I GOT THE INTERVIEW on this Sun!! *beams* XD
...sorry. couldn't control myself. i simply Have to tell someone >___< cos' i honestly thought i wasn't going to get the interview after all >____<
(um. sorry to interrupt your conversations...ignore me ignore me XD)
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congratulations, and above all, good luck! biggrin.gif

which university did u get?
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post Apr 22 2008, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(yuexia @ Apr 21 2008, 04:21 PM)
hehe XD (okay, still in the hyperactive/overjoyed mode)

(oh and to Destroyer: yes, i just did STPM last year, going into undergraduate studies biggrin.gif)

i went to the UKM interview last Sat (2 days, er, *glances at the time*, no, 3 days ago) and the interview this Sun is from UTM~~ ^^

but i didn't get the interview from USM though (which falls on this coming Thursday, my friend got the phone call). but then USM is my third choice so...guess i sort of saw it coming ><

neeeway, too happy now. not sure whether i can sleep tonight  biggrin.gif

oh ya, opinions opinions: in the surat tawaran we were only asked to 'membawa alat tulis seperti pencil 2B, getah pemadam untuk ujian melukis'. but a senior of mine (currently 1st year in UTM Arch ^^) told me when her batch was invited for the interview last year they were specifically asked to bring one coloured drawing and one sketch. so...any particular reason for the change in this year's interview? do you think i should bring some drawings? not that i have any right now...but if i Have to...i mean, if there are advantages... blink.gif
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i'm not sure if it's an actual change, but previously they've only mentioned for the students to bring any sample drawings that they've done previously. they were never specific about it, just general work would do. if they havent informed u to bring anything, it doesnt hurt for u to prepare it. there will be aptitude test during the interview where u'd be asked to draw or sketch, but we all know u could produce better product WITHOUT pressure, right? believe me, i've seen lotsa crappy stuff during aptitude test, but in actual fact, they are really good in producing meticulous artwork in their own time.

anyways, details of what to do or what goes on during UTM's interview can be found here:

tanggam.com. u might need to register first if u cant view the topic.
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QUOTE(Benjamin911 @ Apr 22 2008, 04:25 AM)
I have a question that I would like to ask out of pure curiosity;

Does UTM Kuala Lumpur accept non-SPM students into their diploma programs; students who graduated from private and international high schools? (EG. The Garden International School and such...)
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UTM do accept O-levels, but only under two circumstances:

i. u're not a malaysian citizen; or
ii. u're a citizen, but SPM was not available to u (bcoz of living abroad with parents etc).

those who chose to study non-SPM certificates despite being available to them are highly unlikely to be entertained. but u can try though.

QUOTE(myesarah @ Apr 22 2008, 04:27 AM)
hi, azarimy

thanx for ur response. well, i'm not so sure whether UiTM accepts students from IIUM foundation center, but recently i've heard that some students from here are accepted to UTM in architecture. (or is it UiTM? i can't really remember if it's UTM or UiTM. hehe..)

and i suppose, other unis might as well do the same don't they? do correct me if i'm wrong, though.

u mentioned in your response that i can still apply for UiTM's diploma program. so, i'm wondering whether i should apply online or by post? because unlike any other last year's SPM candidates, i took SPM in 2006. so, can i still apply for their diploma program then?

will the process be the same as applying for the UPU just like i did last 2 years?

and, can i still apply for UiTM's 2nd intake when i didn't apply for the 1st one?

do u know what's the requirement for UiTM's ID diploma or degree program?
p/s : i'm sorry for asking too many questions.. happy.gif  i'm just confused and i don't know who to turn to for the guide, except u.
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+ other unis might accept IIUM's foundation, but i'm pretty sure it's not UTM, or else i would have heard it. or maybe they just didnt bother to tell me LOL. but do remember that it is not the policy of IPTAs to accept each other's foundation students. foundation is a programme that feeds directly to a degree course of a particular university. it is never meant to serve as a feeder programme to other universities like matriculations.

+ u can do it online, or by post, or by going there urself.

+ yes, u would have to apply just like anybody else regardless of when u took ur SPM.

+ it's not called 2nd intake. 2nd intake is for those who didnt make the first cut, but were called eventually to fill in the empty slots left by the 1st intake. in UiTM, there's two intakes: july and january. so it's a totally fresh process entirely. if u've applied for july but didnt get it, it doesnt mean u'll automatically be put into january intake.

+ no, i dont know ID programme's requirement. but u can find it out as easy as googling UiTM's diploma programme or checking out their website wink.gif.
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QUOTE(destroyer @ Apr 22 2008, 12:21 PM)
this is the synopsis i get from politeknik website about their Diploma Seni Bina program.

what do you think about the exmple of the syllabus in it sir azarimy? is it a standard syllabus for architecture? i know that every school have different syllabus. what do you think about poli syllabus?
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lets compare in english.

polytechnic:

architectural drawings, architectural design, material and constructions, building services, structure, CADD, architectural history, environmental science and architectural practice.

UTM diploma:

design, architectural theory and history (from early civilizations to modern history), structure (short to long span), building services, environmental physics, architectural practice, architectural computing, material and constructions (steel, bricks, concrete and timber) and measured drawing. there are also elective subjects that u could take (optional) to enhance certain aspects of urself - architectural presentation (both verbal and presentation), advanced computings, management, detailed history, behaviours, socio-cultures and so on.

generally it's about the same. but the content might be different. emphasis are different too. for example, design subjects in UTM accumulates about 50% of the entire education. so u can imagine how design is being given extra emphasis.


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QUOTE(myesarah @ Apr 23 2008, 08:11 AM)
sir azarimy,
let's say if i do apply for UiTM's ID diploma later, and if i'm accepted, will they put me in the 1st year of the diploma program or straight to the 2nd/3rd year program since i've taken a foundation in IIUM?

oh,ok, i'll google the requirements right away. *giggle*

and by the way, out of my curiosity, what courses are u studying in PhD of archi? and from which uni did u get ur diploma and degree from?

and my last words for now, pls pray for me that i'll be accepted for IIUM ID's degree. it'll be much easier that way.  biggrin.gif
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+ i'm not sure. i guess they may let u skip 1 semester the most, assuming they'd accept the subjects in ur foundation for a credit transfer. it all depends on how much UiTM's ID would recognize the subjects u've taken. but just assume u'd start from scratch, so that u dont get any hopes up.

+ i'm studying architecture education and the virtual environment at phd level in university of sheffield. i graduated my diploma and degree in architecture from UTM (skudai), and my masters (in virtual environment) from the bartlett school of architecture, university college london.

+ well good luck and all the best to ya! (that's me prayin'...)
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just concentrate on FLW, gehry and le corb for the international architects. i doubt u're gonna spend more than 10 minutes talking about them in the interviews. knowing what they've built, just 1 or 2 prominent buildings is fine.

then u go and pick up one or two local architects (ken yeang and tr hamzah is from the same office, so counts as one tongue.gif). maybe add hijjaz kasturi, jimmy lim, zaini zainul or kamil merican or something. also, know which building they've done. if u cant find those architects, look for local firms instead like GDP (group design partnership - kamil merican), ZDR (zaini dubuz richez), TR hamzah & yeang, PAB (perunding alam bina) and so on.
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QUOTE(yuexia @ Apr 23 2008, 10:37 AM)
Thanks azarimy!! will go search for them now~~  biggrin.gif

and also one more thing. i've been trying to search for forum or sites that give comments on buildings, i.e. its practicality, influences towards the surroundings, etc but to no avail. are there sites like those? or maybe discussion forums? i read about the design of the umno penang building (by TR Hamzah & Yeang) and have some questions on it... hmm.gif
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i'm not sure. for malaysian buildings, u could try tanggam.com.

QUOTE(destroyer @ Apr 23 2008, 11:04 AM)
gosh...

based on my reading. all architect are marvelous people. they not only an architect, some are even well known engineer, musician, writer and famous artist.

@azarimy. since you're an architect, how do actually architect become master in more than one profession?

for example. there are many architects that is also a great engineers. do their learning during architecture studies enhance or give them special abilities of solving problem or create a new thing?

how do architect build the skills that is not directly involved in their profession such as engineering skills?

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for dual professions like architect+engineer, they need to be qualified in both. literally meaning they would need to get a degree in both architecture and engineering. experience alone is not enough. but there are architecture-engineering joint degrees available, like the one in sheffield. taking those courses will accredit u both as an architect and an engineer. the course takes slightly longer than normal architecture degree.

architecture education is very different from normal education. we're more constructivist and highly depends on cognition rather than passive absorption of memory. most of the time, the way u learn in architecture is through output rather than input. strange isnt it? and architects always try to solve problem. it's part of their cognitive process. even edward de bono who wrote the manual about cognition and the whole problem solving deal derived a lot of his material from how architects think.

aside from that, architecture isnt called the mother of all arts for nothing. u master architecture, u could master in any branch of arts u want. in malaysia, notable figures who used to do architecture or at least study it are: afdlin shauki (actor, singer), halim othman (radio DJ) and azhar sulaiman (actor). internationally, u might know bands like suede or the tears, who're alumni of the bartlett.

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you've mention once that an architecture consists of 3 parts art, 4 parts science, 3 parts social skills. do this part help build up their engineering skills? or is it because they are awesome thinker. who always want to make world a better place to live?


well, no. those doesnt help engineering skills directly.

and both would wanna make the world a better place, but architects do have a bigger role to play in it.
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almost every architect i know have gone through a phase similar to that video, myself included.

it's normal, day-to-day occurrences. worse yet, that might not be a PC, but a person tongue.gif
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QUOTE(destroyer @ Apr 24 2008, 04:05 PM)
you beat ur wife or friends to release tension? haha. juz kidding. i've seen u with ur wife photos and it seem that you both look very "mesra".

huahuahua. since u're an architect, do most architects are romantic person? because as far as i know, people who have interest in art usually a romantic people.

wonder if there is any architect out there that have same behaviour like the cool+jerk Dr. House. he's jerk. but i think he's inspired many people to become a doctor. hoho.
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i. most architects are expressive. they are very good at displaying affection, and not embarrassed to show that they love another person. this can be very dangerous if u're against a PLAYA who's an architect haha.

ii. ALL architects think that they're dr. house personified. havent met one who didnt think so about themselves, even one bit.
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QUOTE(BridgestoneRE711 @ Apr 24 2008, 09:25 PM)
azarimy , i have one wonder here .
is it really so less lyn who is interested in architecture this year ?
during my batch 365 days ago , there were quite few of lynians who got utm usm ukm nus interview . ...
but it seems quite ... ... silent here .
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maybe, but u cant expect everyone interested in architecture to grow in LYN specifically hahaha. i've got a few who contacted me directly from my contacts in LYN, but they've never involved in the discussion at all.
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to tell u the truth, architecture was never popular in malaysia. from my own school back in 1995, about 350 SPM leavers, but only 6 applied for architecture. 2 made in UTM, 1 in UiTM. that's it.

in 2004 we did tabulate the percentage of each school. the most that ever applied from one school was 16. average is about 2-6 students. so as u can see, the number had been small consistently throughout the years. so we cant really say it's losing its popularity. it was never popular to begin with wink.gif.
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normally, graduates would go into architectural support services. some of them are:

i. design services
ii. plotting/printing
iii. visualization (3D, perspectives etc)
iv. model making
v. architectural photography
vi. draftmanship

there's no difference whether u hold a diploma or degree here.




it's 1.27am at the time u edited ur post. yes, it's normal for architects to stay up late, even after graduating. midnight is the best time to race online in GT5prologue.
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QUOTE(destroyer @ Apr 25 2008, 02:01 AM)
damn!!! you even own ps3. architects sure are rich people.

haha. juz kidding. tanx for da info.

do lecturer who own a firm and teaching in university(in this case UTM) willing to give their students to do some freelancing such as draftsmanship?
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ofcourse. this happens all the time actually. lecturers have a very good view on the capabilities of the students, and have the privilege to choose which students are best for the job. draftmanship and technical drawings are almost always be handed to poly students, while 3D visualizations are usually given to those who're computer savvy. but most of the jobs are back room jobs, meaning, jobs that dont require u to be involved with the clients, authorities, suppliers or other consultants. dont get me wrong, it's perfectly legal. back room are just jobs that dont require u to go out.

bbut like bridgestone've said, u dont usually have time for it. maybe early in the semester or during breaks, but definitely not during mid to end sem, coz u hardly have time to do anything else - even take bath.
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QUOTE(yuexia @ Apr 25 2008, 01:58 PM)
also i have sth to ask bout UTM's interview: are we allowed to use mechanical pencils to draw? i mean, i know we're told to bring 2B pencils, but i really don't like using them...cos' the lines tend to get broader by the end of the stroke  sad.gif  haih. but i guess it's not really 'professional' to use mechanical pencils, huh? ...or maybe it's exactly the skill of using 2B pencil to draw and Yet draw out even lines that really shows your, er, 'pro'-ness? blink.gif ....i think i'm talking nonsense =.=
well, u kinda explained why UTM wants u to use 2B pencils urself. there are certain techniques to master the 2B pencil beyond what u often use in school. but that's just a small aspect they're gonna look for. just make sure u bring a sharpener or a cutter for the pencils.

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neway, i just talked to my friend who went to USM's Archi interview and she said they actually asked her bout 'who's the CM of Penang?' 'who's the menteri besar of Selangor?' 'who's the menteri besar of Kedah?' she was so shocked...in the end she only managed to answer questions about Penang...(we're penangites-- mah ^^) ...will questions like these come out in UTM's interview? i mean, did they ask bout current issues in the past years? i know as malaysians we are supposed to know all these, but they didn't even ask her about local/international architects nor the basic question 'Why do you want to read architecture?'....That is what i call Weird >.< (plus my family only read chinese newspapers...now i have to go find out the menteri-menteri's names in eng =.=)
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well, we do ask some general knowledge or current issues, but only to warm up. whatever u answer wont affect the outcome of the interview, but how u answer it might. some people have a wealth of general knowledge that the interviewers would be astounded. in the UTM's interviews, we're looking for students who're outstanding. it doesnt matter if u cant draw if u can speak ur mind articulately. whatever it is, they're looking to be amazed, dazzled or to be blown away.

but to tell u the truth, we've never asked who the menteri besar or stuff like that, coz it doesnt do anything to calm u down or warm u up. asking those questions would make candidates even more nervous. so we usually asked more general questions, like "did u join the hindraf rally? what do u think about it?" or "do u drive? what car do u drive? how do u compare that to proton?". these questions have more than one answer, so u can just say yes or no and elaborate on ur answer. this will warm u up. questions like who the menteri besar of selangor has only one answer, and u will automatically be nervous if u dont know the answer.

personally, this is bad practice on behalf of the interviewer. if they were from UTM, they wont be interviewing anyone in the future wink.gif.

QUOTE(myesarah @ Apr 25 2008, 02:25 PM)
hi sir azarimy,
i'd only be able to skip 1 semester the most? hwaaa T_T  anyway,if there's seeeeeriously no choice at all, i would't mine starting from the 1st sem just like everybody else. as long as i'd be able to study in the field that i really really love and have a passion for, it'd be fine by me.

owh, wow! you have such an impressive achievements! did u continue your study in masters using your own money? and, did u work as a lecturer or an archictect after you've finished your degree? (before furthuring ur studies in masters)

and i was wondering what's the usual starting sallary of an architect and an interior designer? also, i heard that architecture-graduates who end up as model makers have high incomes. is that true?

and oh oh, i have one more question for today. can u pls tell me what's the difference between interior designing, interior decorating and interior architecture?
btw, thanx for praying for me. haha
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+ i worked as a part time lecturer and a part time architect straight after degree. and after a year of doing part time, i was offered fulltime lecturer with UTM whom sponsored my masters in the bartlett, london a year after.

+ on average, starting salary is between RM2200 to RM2500 in the urban areas, and RM1600-RM2000 in sub-urban/rural areas. i'm not sure about ID. model makers can have a pretty high income, but it highly depends on their skills and how fast they could cook up a model. u can only earn on how quick u can produce them.

+ it's all the same. perhaps interior decorating is actually the act of beautifying the interior, but yeah, it's generally the same.
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QUOTE(yawhong @ Apr 25 2008, 11:04 PM)
Hi
  I would like to ask about the curve roof structure. I know technically it is harder to build building with curve roof compare to standard roof. Below is my sketch model about my design. My main materials for the exterior of the roof might be stainless steel and aluminium. I really like the way i layering the roof, however, my tutor told me it is really hard to build it and aspect me to come out with valid reason if i insist to keep my design. So I would like to ask all the pro here how can i able to make this roof stand up. I would like to know some key word to google and some building which have similar roof design to refer as well. Thanks

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hmmm. it's been awhile since i've involved in crits. here we go:

first, i honestly dont think that ur solution is suitable for the shape u're going. i strongly URGE u not to do that roof as a solution. backtrack a bit, and rethink of ur form. the curved roof structure had almost one time banned in UTM bcoz it is the most simplistic solution u can have for a such a dramatic plan. students use it as an escapism. it's too easy, yet looks damn ugly!

it is pretty obvious to me that u've approach this design from plan. here's where i tell u to backtrack. now u've already know what to put in ur building (via plan). put that aside for a moment, and focus on form making. what do u think is the best form to house ur plan? think in 3D. dont think from plan, but think from section. u need a unified form to establish a character, a flare, a drive for ur design. u dont want to design something that indistinguishable from the next free standing building u see. my suggestion, if u cant find a suitable form of roof, detach the roof entirely from ur building. start looking into envelopes instead, where u can have a roof that totally separate from ur wall. i mean, u can design a dome covering ur building if u want, and it just stands free on the ground.

anyways,

if i failed to convince u to change, then lets go into the details of ur curved steel roof. first, for a curved roof, there's always a certainty that it will use a lattice frame or trust underneath it. work from top to bottom. to maintain the curve, u need curved frame. now design the frame. look at the span of the room to determine the depth and complexity of the frame. then move to the next one: u need to support the frames with columns. how do u do that? u have to locate specific points on ur building to put columns to support ur roof. here's the tricky part.

with one glance i already know u'd be propping up free standing columns that is not part of ur wall just to support the roof biggrin.gif. if this is so, then u'd better off with my earlier suggestion to design a freestanding envelope instead wink.gif.

QUOTE(BurgaFlippinMan @ Apr 26 2008, 06:28 AM)
Thanks. Another thing, is the interview conducted in malay or english? I must admit to having rather rubbish malay, having grown up mostly in an english speaking environment.
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it is usually conducted with emphasis to english. u need firm command of english for UTM architecture interviews in the last few years. back before then, most of the interviews were conducted in BM, with a small portion in english. but nowadays we start in english straightaway, unless the student struggles with the earlier questions, hence it will be asked again in BM. the best thing for u is, regardless of whether the question is asked in BM or english, u can always answer in english. but there will be time they'd just have to ask u to speak in BM for a brief moment just to test u out.

as bridgestone have said, there have been a multitude of talents applying to UTM lately, and his batch specifically has a number of experienced english debaters during 2ndary school. if the trend sticks, then u not only have to compete with some of the talented artists, but also debaters and other talents as well. not to mention those who can sing really well. oh yes, if u claim u can sing, we WILL make u sing during the interview. it's all about character!
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QUOTE(destroyer @ Apr 26 2008, 10:39 AM)
for model making, how do the process begin?

they usually build it complete with miniature interior or just model the building with no interior?

how much time usually be given to finish 1 model?

normally, i diploma or degree years, how often we have to make model? for example, 1 model per sem?

we use our own money for the model am I right?

if we have alternative materials to build a model and tested more efficient & economical than the normal materials use, can we ude it in the model building?

that's all. tanx in advance.
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+ depends on the requirement. u usually construct a model to communicate certain things that can be done efficiently in drawings or virtually. so it depends on what u wanna show others. if u wanna show form and solve roof problems (like yawhong's example), then u obviously dont have to do the interior. in other times, u might wanna show what ur interior really looks like, so u focus only on interiors. there's hardly any time for u to do everything.

+ it depends on the type of model, the scale, and the complexity/detail of it. model types such as conceptual, form making, rough or working models are very quick to do. i personally spend 1 to 2 hours on them. finished models, structural, visualization and so on are more complex with higher accuracy, so they take a lot of time to do. it can take between 2-6 days.

+ u do as often as u need to. 1 model saves u the time of doing plans, elevations and perspectives during idea formulation stage. so u might do that early on to quickly explain and establish ur ideas. personally i've done atleast 50 models during my diploma years, but mostly are conceptual models. but some design classes require u to submit a finished model, so that's a different story.

+ yes. and this is one of the parts where u will spend lots of money on.

+ yes. usually there's no restriction in what material u can use. most of the time my models came from discarded boards, boxes and crates from around taman universiti's factory area (near UTM skudai). so it's free. remember, it's not the material u use, it's how u use it to deliver the idea. u can spend literally hundreds of RM and still get a C, while ur friend spent only on glue and cutter and can score A.
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QUOTE(destroyer @ Apr 27 2008, 03:14 AM)
@azarimy, i've checked USM website, and it stated that for diploma holder, if we enter USM architecture, it only 3 years. could you clarify on this matter. thanx in advance.
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ok. i'll check on it.

QUOTE(BurgaFlippinMan @ Apr 27 2008, 04:08 AM)
btw, if I reject an offer in a public uni, will the place be offered to someone else?
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yes. it can be offered immediately to the next qualified candidate if u inform them soon enough; or it will offered as a 2nd intake which is 2-4 weeks later than the 1st intake; or in case of UTM, it will be kept so that they can take more diploma students (in to that batch) the next year.
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QUOTE(myesarah @ Apr 27 2008, 09:58 AM)
sir azarimy,

i was just wondering, why did u be a part time lecturer and a part time architect after your degree? why didn't u just do either one of them full time?

well, as what everyone already knows, architecture program of a uni/college in malaysia must have an accreditation by LAM. so, does interior design program need an accreditation by any body or something?
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well, for one thing, IPTAs dont often take fresh graduates to become part of the teaching staff unless they have some serious achievements under their belt. when i graduated in 2001, there wasnt any permanent vacancies, so the faculty had to apply to the administration for more fundings. so i had to wait for the opening, which apparently took 10months. so i became a part time lecturer rather than just wait and do nothing.

only if there were an opening readily available, and a 3.50++ with a bunch of dean's list and other awards, could one be taken directly into the teaching staff. even so, the faculty will have to screen them through interviews. great at learning doesnt mean u'll be good at lecturing. in my case, i had a 1 year long interview (via part time teaching), so the real interview was pretty much nothing.



no. at the moment interior design does not have an accreditation system, but they do have a society for it. check out MSID.
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QUOTE(yuexia @ Apr 28 2008, 12:12 AM)
came back from KL yesterday after the UTM interview ^^

i sort of realised sth...there is a reason for interviews to be called INTER-view. besides being assessed by the interviewer, it is also a chance for the prospective student to have a clearer idea of how the university is like.

I really really like my interviewers ^^ too bad i didn't take down their names. the session was really relaxed (...is that a good thing?  blink.gif ) and they were really really nice. i actually sort of regretted that i put UTM as second choice  sad.gif  i think they were shocked when i said UTM's not my first choice...then they told me i'll only get UTM IF i put it as first  *sob*  but if they aren't going to consider second-choicers, then why call them up for interviews in the first place?  cry.gif

compared to the warm and cheerful(?) impression that the UTM interviewers gave me, UM feels a bit distanced and cold now  yawn.gif  why oh why don't the UM people conduct interviews? >.<
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could u describe ur interviewers for me?

the reason why they mentioned about 2nd choicers is not about UTM, but about other universities. universities such as UM can bypass UTM's preferred candidates and "steal" them based on technicalities. if UTM sees that u have the talent, the character and the qualifications for the course, UM could steal u away based on qualifications alone (assuming UM is the first choice). i mean, if we think u're good, for damn sure other universities would think the same as well. so it boils down to which university u've put as the 1st choice.

and yes, UTM's interviews are conducted in a relaxed or casual environment rather than formal. we feel that students perform best when they are comfortable.
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QUOTE(yuexia @ Apr 28 2008, 03:56 AM)
um. well. i went into the room situated on the side of the corridor leading towards Dewan Jumaah (my interview centre was the KL campus). there were 2 interviewers, the man was quite tall i think (he was sitting down all the time. i just instictively felt that he's quite tall  tongue.gif ) , wasn't wearing specs and with no moustache. the lady wore specs, average height (i think). both were really jovial  smile.gif 

but then again, i'm Really veryvery poor at remembering what people wore and stuff like that. so... tongue.gif
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how about age? language proficiencies? skin colour? was the lady wearing tudung or not?

i'm just trying to figure out who ur interviewers were, bcoz i personally know all of them, and i know there are certain things that they say or do will indicate that u've got it. but they will not say it straight away so that u'll not put ur hopes up too high. one of the things that could be said is about the 2nd choicers that we've discussed earlier. to some, that would mean "i want to offer u the place right now, but UM might steal u away" (which is good), but to others it could mean "i have nothing else to talk about, so i'm just gonna say something ambiguous" (which is not really good).

QUOTE(destroyer @ Apr 28 2008, 07:26 AM)
@azarimy. i think i'll enter matric since i think i am uncertain about my future.

btw, thanks a lot for your info that you give and share here. i really2 appreciate it. mybe i'll enter architecture after finish my matriculation. thanx a lot azarimy.
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very well. hope u achieve ur best in ur future endeavours!

QUOTE(aprisis @ Apr 28 2008, 07:34 AM)
izit possible to enter Diploma in this field right after SPM using my trial results?
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trials? not for IPTAs, no. but i believe u can for IPTSs. IPTA intakes are usually well after the official SPM results are announced, so there's no reason why u need to apply using trial results. however, IPTS may have 2 or 3 intakes per year, and in light of saving time, they may allow u to apply to their courses using ur trial results. later they will still request ur official results.


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