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This one ? Sire of my hatchlings ( belong to a friend of mine and is about 20+ inch SCL I think ) Got 2 off my friend who breeds them

I think some more are gonna to hatch soon !!!

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Me , I am not the breeder I just bought 2 off the other SAM !!

You should see the other SAM's collection His collection is out of this world !!

I think I only managed to see half of his " pets " Some of his breeders are off limits no expection !!!

I and the other SAM are from the Land of many Tortoises and Turtles !!!

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Added on July 25, 2008, 12:49 pmI will reveal a bit here just chelonian I managed to count about 40+ sp ( I know theres more ) Then there's python , Lizard (Varanus , Iguana , Skink ) Birds , fishes .....etc

Like a private mini Zoo with different section quite far away from each other ie his parents place , his place , his Farm A , B , C ...etc



This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Jul 25 2008, 12:49 PM

I reckon between 3 - 4 " at most !!!

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You after this ??

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Jul 28 2008, 01:00 PM

Thats mine about 3 + "

The other Sam's one much bigger all breeder size liao !!!

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Jul 28 2008, 01:25 PM

Over here ( extra to bring over ) between RM 450 - 550 a pc !!!

I think also depends on quality ie young one will cost more !! As these are almost always WC animals !!!

Hey Chin what do you intend to acheive / promote by telling us that most of our pets (chelonian ) are for soup (more than once if I remember correctly) in the chelonian thread !!!

I could always buy and skin a few CHINCHILLA to make a cloak and post it in your thread !!! Thats what they are for after all !!! LOL
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This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Jul 29 2008, 03:49 AM

LOL but whats wrong with not being able to tell them apart !!!

Thanks for sharing !!

The below shared with me by a friend !!
I think there is one so call senior/sifu among us who bought a little baby turtle and feed it the wrong type of food ( live and swam too fast ) , thinking it still has york inside it (thus not eating ) and after a few weeks that baby turtle died from being too weak ( even thou it started eating after another sifu corrected the diet ) !! How sad !! Beginer or not a name is just a name Be them Turtle , Tortoise , Terappin or Slider !!!!!!

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Added on July 31, 2008, 6:41 amYou people might just be suprised on what people call tortoise or turtle Oversea
ie Try google Snake neack tortoise !!!

Result - http://www.faunanet.gov.au/wos/factfile.cfm?Fact_ID=287
LOL so no-one is wrong after all


Frogs who live in the well do get out more to see and learn before comment on such pity matter !!! The outside world is so so huge !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Jul 31 2008, 05:56 PM

Sorry about my comment as too early in the morning and I just quote any replies to "adriane_1707 " into my reply !!! Your reply about researching well before getting a new pet is well answered !!!

Sorry again about lumping you with those few !!!

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Jul 31 2008, 06:03 PM

My supplier has some on his list for RM 2++ a pc sub-adult to adult size !!

My friend has some in his collection and keep/feed them as if they are Malayan Boxie !!! But do remember to keep them seperate ( C.ambo and C. Galbinifrons ) as they do and will mate and hybrid among themselves

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Aug 1 2008, 09:04 PM

All new WC animals are unpredictable ( if they are weak they are not as hardy ) Even C.ambo can be fragile at times as new WC !!

Yes they are less aquatic (most Cuora sp are like that as they reach adulthood ) only the male lurk in the water (spent more time in water as adults than female ) waiting for female to mate ( they mate in water ) !!!

As for internal parasites - you have to worm them ( as with all Wc aniamls )

There are a few subspecies for Cuora galbinifrons ie Cuora galbinifrons picturata ,C. g. bouretti and C. g. galbinifrons

They are much more colourful than our local Malayan boxie !!!

I think the answer to the above is NO to a certain extent !!!

As no / slow growth after a certain size !!

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Added on August 4, 2008, 7:04 amI think you should write as " who CAN take care of them properly " as the owner wants to take care but did the wrong things ie too many " good/ junk" food and thus the result !

This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Aug 4 2008, 07:04 AM

mustard greed (sawi) = caixin

Lets start with getting the spelling correct first !! Its Tortoises !! LOL

What you wanna know / learn ? I have a v gud mentor which you also know !!

Just that he very quiet in forum nowadays due to too much mouths that needs feeding !!

No species are hard if you know how to keep them !! Only the breeding part is slightly more tricky !!

Just that some sp are more demanding in term of living enclosure !!

If you want something easy to care for and easy to breed - You cant go pass 2 of our local sp
Indotestudo elongata - Elongated Tortoise
Manouria emys emys - Burmese Brown Tortoise

A few other sp from the tropics who love humidity
Geochelone carbonaria - Red-foot Tortoise
Geochelone denticulata - Yellow-foot Tortoise
Geochelone platynota - Burmese Star Tortoise


All the above recommanded by the other SAM who keeps them and bred from them before !!


Of course there are many more sp who are good / easy to keep / care for !!

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Which Star ??

You folks think a Burmese Star too ??

Try any figure between RM 1200-2400 a pc YES a pc !!!

But those I think in Thailand !!

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See the differences ?

Both about the 10 inch mark !!