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 Xbox 360 performance equivalent to..?, Xbox 360 vs PC

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post Jan 22 2008, 11:47 PM

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XboX 360 runs HD-DVD lar
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post Jan 22 2008, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Jan 22 2008, 11:42 PM)
that why console is far far diffrent than PC..PC depents ur GC power...COnsole Depents ur HD or blue ray Disk power

so this 2 cannot compare to each other~~~
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ur statement doesn't make much sense....

PS2 in it's early stage have a lot of games still in CD form.. the graphics are same with the same title in DVD form.... the only problem for the CD is it store much less data than the DVD...

it will be the same for 360/PS3.. if the console can support DVD in game title, the outcome will be still equivalent to the same game title make in HD/BR....

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post Jan 22 2008, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Jan 22 2008, 11:07 PM)
those console graphic 50% depents GC 50% is depents on CD...dun forget xbox 360 is using HD-DVD!...HD-DVD is 50% more clear than DVD....Even Xbox 360 is using Nvidia7900XT as GC...result out also same as 8800GTS.....WHen i play Ghost Recon Advance Warfighter...in Xbox graphic = PC Very high setting (PC i used 8800GTS SLI result = same graphic to Xbox 360 HD-DVD result)
PS3...DO it got GC..i tell u it dun have.....WHY PS3 graphic so so Pretty?

PS3 using 8 Extreme Processor (Normal PC is 5Ghz super max OC with nitrogen liquid) But PS3 Processor is 20GHZ=2Trilion per second speed without OC MEANS 8X20 GHZ = 160GHZ PROCESSOR in PS3!!!!! plus using Blue-Ray Disk...150% more clear view than DVD....PS3 no GC but result same to 8800Ultra Triple SLI result (Do u guys see Grand Tusimo newest one? play games like see a Movie...SO SO  real....Even 8800ultra triple SLi also cannot do that maybe.......
Back to X-box 360....it using HD-DVD and x-box processor is 1 trilion per second speed...means 10Ghz Processor without OC....so PC how to beat those console ? Console no need GC at all using it processor power can make ur games see very nice and Very Fast!!!

DO u see Console games make u lag before? LOL!!!!
Conclusion:Console gaming they no depents on GC they used quality on HD-DVD or Blue Ray Disk to win PC......and Processor too~~~

Here the Link to let u see :PS3 power
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwCDhMJ6-r4&feature=related

Console Graphic Tech is far more higher than PC graphic setting.......
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post Jan 22 2008, 11:50 PM

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kid, u have to understand what is Video format first.. n those video format use in HDDVD/BRDisc, 720p/1080p... doesn't apply to a Data Disc(game disc)....

ur statement will be only corrent for those disc in Video Format....
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post Jan 22 2008, 11:51 PM

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WHy ps1 and PS2 graphic so many diffrent..Both no GC...IT because the CD diffrent only.......DVD is much higher space compare to CD that why it can make more detail stuff into it~~~~MOre detail stuff = more Pretty Graphic it can goes~~~ DO PS2 got Graphic card...Answer is NO!! That why in console world CD /DVD /HD-DVD/Blue-ray is thier Graphic Card!!! SO it cannot compare to PC..PC have GC
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post Jan 22 2008, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Jan 22 2008, 11:07 PM)
those console graphic 50% depents GC 50% is depents on CD...dun forget xbox 360 is using HD-DVD!...HD-DVD is 50% more clear than DVD....Even Xbox 360 is using Nvidia7900XT as GC...result out also same as 8800GTS.....WHen i play Ghost Recon Advance Warfighter...in Xbox graphic = PC Very high setting (PC i used 8800GTS SLI result = same graphic to Xbox 360 HD-DVD result)
PS3...DO it got GC..i tell u it dun have.....WHY PS3 graphic so so Pretty?

PS3 using 8 Extreme Processor (Normal PC is 5Ghz super max OC with nitrogen liquid) But PS3 Processor is 20GHZ=2Trilion per second speed without OC MEANS 8X20 GHZ = 160GHZ PROCESSOR in PS3!!!!! plus using Blue-Ray Disk...150% more clear view than DVD....PS3 no GC but result same to 8800Ultra Triple SLI result (Do u guys see Grand Tusimo newest one? play games like see a Movie...SO SO real....Even 8800ultra triple SLi also cannot do that maybe.......
Back to X-box 360....it using HD-DVD and x-box processor is 1 trilion per second speed...means 10Ghz Processor without OC....so PC how to beat those console ? Console no need GC at all using it processor power can make ur games see very nice and Very Fast!!!

DO u see Console games make u lag before? LOL!!!!
Conclusion:Console gaming they no depents on GC they used quality on HD-DVD or Blue Ray Disk to win PC......and Processor too~~~

Here the Link to let u see :PS3 power
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwCDhMJ6-r4&feature=related

Console Graphic Tech is far more higher than PC graphic setting.......
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jan 22 2008, 11:40 PM)
doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

U can't use the word HD-DVD/Blu-Ray and Compare to Normal DVD n judge the HD-DVD/BR have better graphics Quality ... U are right when u go to Video format like HD/BR use 720p/1080p and DVD in movie only using 420p or even less...

In gaming, those Disk are use to store data.. the only thing different btwn them are only HDDVD/BR have higher capacity where DVD have lower.. how good is the picture quality fully depend on how good is the game made n how powerful the mechine rendering the Graphic....

In PC... say some game, some version use 3-4CDs.. where another version can be only 1DVD.. the outcome of the game are identical to each other..  U can install ur PC with a HDDVD drive anytime and even a game in HDDVD and it still make the same thing for u.. ur game still having the same output for u...
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Jan 22 2008, 11:42 PM)
that why console is far far diffrent than PC..PC depents ur GC power...Console Depents ur HD or blue ray Disk power

XBOX360 dun have any Graphic card..WHy it can so pretty? in PC world HD-DVD is cd stroage but in console world HD-DVD is thier graphic nice or not nice le.......Xbox360 it just using HD-DVD Tech clear view plys it 10GHZ processor to make entie games works.....IF Console got GC with 10GHz processor...u can go into 4D world alrady...LOL!!

so this 2 cannot compare to each other~~~
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i think they are different at all, xbox & ps3 which are using cell processor and while PC are using x86 architecture, which i think shall be diff machine language and so on...
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showd...spx?i=2379&p=13
refer the link for more info about cell processor...
consoles also have their own ram & hdd for ur info, just same as PC, Xbox have 3 cell processor...

This post has been edited by lichyetan: Jan 22 2008, 11:54 PM
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post Jan 22 2008, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Jan 22 2008, 11:51 PM)
WHy ps1 and PS2 graphic so many diffrent..Both no GC...IT because the CD diffrent only.......DVD is much higher space compare to CD that why it can make more detail stuff into it~~~~MOre detail stuff = more Pretty Graphic it can goes~~~ DO PS2 got Graphic card...Answer is NO!! That why in console world CD /DVD /HD-DVD/Blue-ray is thier Graphic Card!!! SO it cannot compare to PC..PC have GC
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I am patiently trying to explain to u where u are wrong.... but u seem to not understand...

u didn't read I telling u in the early day PS2 still have a lot of title in CD form??

nevermind la.. I see the way u answer.. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Jan 22 2008, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Jan 22 2008, 11:47 PM)
XboX 360 runs HD-DVD lar
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Dude HD DVD is an add on for XBOX360...so far all games made are normal DVD only..

BTW a mistake by myself...the XBOX360 actually uses an ATI Xenos GPU architecture...not a 7800GTX..

EDIT : Bloody hell its the PS3 hat uses the NVIDIA RSX GPU which is assumed to be a 7800GTX!!! rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Jan 22 2008, 11:51 PM)
That why in console world CD /DVD /HD-DVD/Blue-ray is thier Graphic Card!!! SO it cannot compare to PC..PC have GC
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post Jan 22 2008, 11:57 PM

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i think xbox and ps3 work almost same as pc, they got their own cell processor to process date fetch from data from the roms... just the cell processor are processing more thread then regular PC so i think probably tht makes the graphic processing smoother than regular PC.. while regular PC are using Graphic card to calculate the graphic data while CPU calc others such as physic and AI...

Xbox and Ps3 simpler OS which specific for gaming also make it faster then PC OS which consumes ram and also meant for office applications

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post Jan 22 2008, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(lichyetan @ Jan 22 2008, 11:53 PM)
i think they are different at all, xbox & ps3 which are using cell processor and while PC are using x86 architecture, which i think shall be diff machine language and so on...
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showd...spx?i=2379&p=13
refer the link for more info about cell processor...
consoles also have their own ram & hdd for ur info, just same as PC, Xbox have 3 cell processor...
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of course u cannot do a direct comparison from a PC to a Console...

game in console doens't need to go through another layer of kernal compare to a PC... which u can see a up to date PC which is much much more superior to a PS2 also may face speed problem while running a PS2 game...

My point to him is.. the different kind of disc use .. have only capacity different.. nothing to do with which have more superior graphic compare to each other...
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post Jan 23 2008, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jan 22 2008, 11:58 PM)
of course u cannot do a direct comparison from a PC to a Console... 

game in console doens't need to go through another layer of kernal compare to a PC... which u can see a up to date PC which is much much more superior to a PS2 also may face speed problem while running a PS2 game... 

My point to him is..  the different kind of disc use .. have only capacity different.. nothing to do with which have more superior graphic compare to each other...
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agree with u... due to OS also compare to console, we cannot compare them as they are built for diff purpose...
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post Jan 23 2008, 12:00 AM

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dis spec of pc sure can pwn anytime..........


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post Jan 23 2008, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(lichyetan @ Jan 22 2008, 11:57 PM)
i think xbox and ps3 work almost same as pc, they got their own cell processor to process date fetch from data from the roms... just the cell processor are processing more thread then regular PC so i think probably tht makes the graphic processing smoother than regular PC.. while regular PC are using Graphic card to calculate the graphic data while CPU calc others such as physic and AI...

Xbox and Ps3 simpler OS which specific for gaming also make it faster then PC OS which consumes ram and also meant for office applications
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one of the major different is Game maker only have to make the game and program the graphic level optimum to the specific console.... where in PC.. every single PC can be different....
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post Jan 23 2008, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jan 23 2008, 12:00 AM)
one of the major different is Game maker only have to make the game and program the graphic level optimum to the specific console....  where in PC.. every single PC can be different....
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ya, i think major diff are their software optimization... processing power i think pc are better
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post Jan 23 2008, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Jan 22 2008, 11:42 PM)
that why console is far far diffrent than PC..PC depents ur GC power...Console Depents ur HD or blue ray Disk power

XBOX360 dun have any Graphic card..WHy it can so pretty? in PC world HD-DVD is cd stroage but in console world HD-DVD is thier graphic nice or not nice le.......Xbox360 it just using HD-DVD Tech clear view plys it 10GHZ processor to make entie games works.....IF Console got GC with 10GHz processor...u can go into 4D world alrady...LOL!!

so this 2 cannot compare to each other~~~
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can't stop laughing.. laugh.gif dude you really crack me up at this hour.
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post Jan 23 2008, 12:08 AM

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i tot x box 360 has onboard custom ATI Graphic...

hahahhaha... really funnay la regentcid.
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post Jan 23 2008, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(lichyetan @ Jan 23 2008, 12:05 AM)
ya, i think major diff are their software optimization... processing power i think pc are better
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yes in terms of raw power PC is definetely the leader...but game optimisation for consoles is always...easier and better...since its the same system world wide...but for PC developers have to make it scalable for PC like 2 years old etc...
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screw this:

PC can play CS, while Xbox360/Ps3 can't




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