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Abie.C
post Jan 15 2008, 03:28 PM, updated 14y ago

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Please beware for this seller on ebay. The cheated people at ebay posting original Nokia N95 and later money received sent china made nokia to buyer. When buyer receive item, not as descripted on the posting and request to return or change, seller acccuse buyer cheating for changing their original nokia to a fake nokia.

His ID : kbb2720
Name : KOH CHENGSOON (As on this RHB account name)
Account no : 10702800773718

I bid the seller item original Nokia N95 8gb used 2 months old at his ebay posting on 3/01/2008. At first the seller is very corresponsive and reply to every mail. I bank-in money to his RHB account on 04/01/2008 and request him to post the item to me. Later i received the item 3days later. When i open the item, i found that the item i bid orginal nokia has changed to china made n95. I immidiately contact his hp. But the hp never on. I try to sms and message him using ebay. The next day i received his massege. And i told him that this is not the item i bif for and is not original nokia. I ask for a return and sent me back my original item. But this seller, told me under his policy there is no return. I told him that i receive the wrong item and later the seller accused me for cheating him by changing the original nokia and use fake nokia to cheat him. PLEASE IS YOU ARE GOING BUY ANY ITEM FROM HIM PLEASE DON'T HE WILL SEN YOU FAKE NOKIA. I have checked with few of his other buyer and they have similar case like me. Receive china make nokia.

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post Jan 15 2008, 03:45 PM

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Well, you are considered lucky that at least the seller didn't just MIA-ed with your money.

Always practice COD whenever possible. Nowadays there are a lot of imitations phones around

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post Jan 15 2008, 10:38 PM

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pls report this to ebay.
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post Jan 16 2008, 01:56 AM

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I got fake N95 also sad.gif
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post Jan 16 2008, 07:59 AM

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so bad.. TT_TT

anyway i just deal to buy n95 8 gb with ebay seller, but the seller is not him..
hopefully he will send me the ori set one...
Abie.C
post Jan 16 2008, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(superxboy @ Jan 16 2008, 01:56 AM)
I got fake N95 also sad.gif
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Are you also a victim from this seller buying n95 from him.
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post Jan 16 2008, 09:41 AM

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In fact most Asian market's Nokia N95 is actually made in China. Same goes with many other Nokia models in this region. Nokia tried to cover it up by using the words "Made by Nokia" instead.

Check out US & European Nokia models, it states "Made in Finland".

Just take out the battery of your Nokia model & check it out.

For the fake N95, the differences can be quite easily spotted though.

This post has been edited by ben83: Jan 16 2008, 09:43 AM
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post Jan 16 2008, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(Abie.C @ Jan 15 2008, 03:28 PM)
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Please beware for this seller on ebay. The cheated people at ebay posting original Nokia N95 and later money received sent china made nokia to buyer. When buyer receive item, not as descripted on the posting and request to return or change, seller acccuse buyer cheating for changing their original nokia to a fake nokia.

His ID : kbb2720
Name : KOH CHENGSOON (As on this RHB account name)
Account no : 10702800773718

I bid the seller item original  Nokia N95 8gb used 2 months old at his ebay posting on 3/01/2008. At first the seller is very corresponsive and reply to every mail. I bank-in money to his RHB account on 04/01/2008 and request him to post the item to me. Later i received the item 3days later. When i open the item, i found that the item i bid orginal nokia has changed to china made n95. I immidiately contact his hp. But the hp never on. I try to sms and message him using ebay. The next day i received his massege. And i told him that this is not the item i bif for and is not original nokia. I ask for a return and sent me back my original item. But this seller, told me under his policy there is no return. I told him that i receive the wrong item and later the seller accused me for cheating him by changing the original nokia and use fake nokia to cheat him. PLEASE IS YOU ARE GOING BUY ANY ITEM FROM HIM PLEASE DON'T HE WILL SEN YOU FAKE NOKIA. I have checked with few of his other buyer and they have similar case like me. Receive china make  nokia.
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I have already report to ebay but i dunno that is ebay doing. I have open a dispute with this seller and now what he looks like threating me like asking dunno who called himself mohamed sobri write in malay. I want to show all you guys out there. What this malay guy wrtten to me.

kbb2720 Jan 15, 2008 at 15:06:18 MYT
nama saya ialah mohamed sobri bekerja sebagai technician repair hp.saya telah tengok email anda yang
berunsur anti-kaum dan menghina kaum melayu sebagai tak ada standard dan low kelas..apa ini?Saya
sebagai anak melayu umno berasa hampa dengan cina beruk seperti kamu!Abang dan pakcik saya berada di
selangor dan saya telah memberitahu mereka berkenaan dengan kamu.Kami memang melayu tapi bukan boleh
dihina sebegitu.pakcik dan abang saya juga sebagai ahli umno nak jumpa kamu!

I am now asking other of his buyers who have the same situation please post it here so that everone can see and avoid dealing with him.


He accused me for cheating him and now he is threating me on the mail. He knows i'm a lady and want to scared me off. All his good feedback is a liar and can be created by himself to lure his victim buying items from him. I want to post all his bad thing in the internet and let other know about this scam seller selling in ebay. Anyone recommed which forum is a best place other than lowyat.net. i want more poeple to know about this seller kbb2720. KOH CHENG SOON alias Micheal.



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I suggest you to quickly leave him a negative feedback at eBay
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post Jan 16 2008, 11:30 AM

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I have leave a follow up negetive feedback for him. I hope no more victims from this seller. Last time, he has a ebay store when i buy the item from him and today i check. No longer have ebay store. We will dissapear soon in ebay and i think will created another new name for himself to continue scamming people.
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QUOTE(Abie.C @ Jan 16 2008, 09:31 AM)
Are you also a victim from this seller buying n95 from him.
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No, I am victim of other case.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/611376

QUOTE(Abie.C @ Jan 16 2008, 09:51 AM)
i want more poeple to know about this seller kbb2720. KOH CHENG SOON alias Micheal.
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Opps, my name is Michael also, I am shame on it.

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that just coward thread ignore him ... smile.gif .. go report to police that u been scam and closed his account smile.gif that will show him

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This is my second time conned in ebay. What a bad luck of me. December i have been conned rm1200 and now just a month January another rm1620. I dun trust ebay anymore. Even if i have reported to to police, i dunno whether the police is sdoin something about. I never hear internet conned man been catch.
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QUOTE(Abie.C @ Jan 16 2008, 08:25 PM)
This is my second time conned in ebay. What a bad luck of me. December i have been conned rm1200 and now just a month January another rm1620. I dun trust ebay anymore.  Even if i have reported to to police, i dunno whether the police is sdoin something about. I never hear internet conned man been catch.
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Although you have report to the police. But the police also can't do anything already. Try to get some friends which working at that particular bank & try to the grab the info from that scammer account. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(jtcs87 @ Jan 16 2008, 08:37 PM)
Although you have report to the police. But the police also can't do anything already. Try to get some friends which working at that particular bank & try to the grab the info from that scammer account.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I like too. But i dun have any friends working around in the bank section. Could not get his details.
This is the ebay information i can get.

Seller's contact information:
Michael
No.70,Lorong Asas Jaya 5,Kawasan Perniagaan Asas Jaya.
Bukit Mertajam, Penang 14000
Malaysia
0174836017


Anyone staying around this area can have a look for me. Whether this location is true or false.


Added on January 16, 2008, 8:54 pm
QUOTE(ben83 @ Jan 16 2008, 09:41 AM)
In fact most Asian market's Nokia N95 is actually made in China. Same goes with many other Nokia models in this region. Nokia tried to cover it up by using the words "Made by Nokia" instead.

Check out US & European Nokia models, it states "Made in Finland".

Just take out the battery of your Nokia model & check it out.

For the fake N95, the differences can be quite easily spotted though.
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This 100% fake. Cos no 8gb, no 3g, no gps and also have a mirco sd card slot. I never heard n95 8gb have memory slot. This is total fake. Thought i'm a lady dunno nothing and sent me a fake one to trick me.

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QUOTE(ben83 @ Jan 16 2008, 09:41 AM)
In fact most Asian market's Nokia N95 is actually made in China. Same goes with many other Nokia models in this region. Nokia tried to cover it up by using the words "Made by Nokia" instead.

Check out US & European Nokia models, it states "Made in Finland".

Just take out the battery of your Nokia model & check it out.

For the fake N95, the differences can be quite easily spotted though.
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Check my thread, the fake N95 really almost 100% similar with real N95.

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post Jan 17 2008, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(superxboy @ Jan 16 2008, 10:23 PM)
Check my thread, the fake N95 really almost 100% similar with real N95.
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My fake nokia totally fake. Just like a toy. No Nokia n98 8gb wording on the front of the phone. Very light. Only black color that all. The box show n95 silver and inside the fake n95 8gb is black. With a adapter and a data cable. that's all.


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QUOTE(Abie.C @ Jan 16 2008, 09:51 AM)
I have already report to ebay but i dunno that is ebay doing. I have open a dispute with this seller and now what he looks like threating me like asking dunno who called himself mohamed sobri write in malay. I want to show all you guys out there.  What this malay guy wrtten to me.

kbb2720 Jan 15, 2008 at 15:06:18 MYT
nama saya ialah mohamed sobri bekerja sebagai technician repair hp.saya telah tengok email anda yang
berunsur anti-kaum dan menghina kaum melayu sebagai tak ada standard dan low kelas..apa ini?Saya
sebagai anak melayu umno berasa hampa dengan cina beruk seperti kamu!Abang dan pakcik saya berada di
selangor dan saya telah memberitahu mereka berkenaan dengan kamu.Kami memang melayu tapi bukan boleh
dihina sebegitu.pakcik dan abang saya juga sebagai ahli umno nak jumpa kamu!

I am now asking other of his buyers who have the same situation please post it here so that everone can see and avoid dealing with him.
He accused me for cheating him and now he is threating me on the mail. He knows i'm a lady and want to scared me off.  All his good feedback is a liar and can be created by himself to lure his victim buying items from him. I want to post all his bad thing in the internet and let other know about this scam seller selling in ebay. Anyone recommed which forum is a best place other than lowyat.net. i want more poeple to know about this seller kbb2720. KOH CHENG SOON alias Micheal.
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i dont think hes a malay. talking trash , making no sense in BM.im a malay, n believe me, the msg sounded like direct translation from english. he's just lying n provoking u.never ever buy from ebay malaysia unless got paypal secured. i never trust ebay malaysia for 1 bit

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QUOTE(hibiki0104 @ Jan 17 2008, 10:40 AM)
i dont think hes a malay. talking  trash , making no sense in BM.im a malay, n believe me, the msg sounded like direct translation from english. he's just lying n provoking u.never ever buy from ebay malaysia unless got paypal secured. i never trust ebay malaysia for 1 bit
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Yeah, I think so. cos i also check other of his buyer victim at the same time. He also told me this is created by him just to treatening me. As i know they are already 5 buyer conned by him including me neither receive a fake nokia or totally none from him. All the same, Accusing buyer fro cheating him or told buyer already posted with fake poslaju consignment note.


Added on January 17, 2008, 11:59 amI will never ever buy from ebay anymore or else COD. Conned twice is enough for me.


Added on January 17, 2008, 10:59 pm
QUOTE(Abie.C @ Jan 16 2008, 09:51 AM)
I have already report to ebay but i dunno that is ebay doing. I have open a dispute with this seller and now what he looks like threating me like asking dunno who called himself mohamed sobri write in malay. I want to show all you guys out there.  What this malay guy wrtten to me.


kbb2720 Jan 15, 2008 at 15:06:18 MYT
nama saya ialah mohamed sobri bekerja sebagai technician repair hp.saya telah tengok email anda yang
berunsur anti-kaum dan menghina kaum melayu sebagai tak ada standard dan low kelas..apa ini?Saya
sebagai anak melayu umno berasa hampa dengan cina beruk seperti kamu!Abang dan pakcik saya berada di
selangor dan saya telah memberitahu mereka berkenaan dengan kamu.Kami memang melayu tapi bukan boleh
dihina sebegitu.pakcik dan abang saya juga sebagai ahli umno nak jumpa kamu!

I am now asking other of his buyers who have the same situation please post it here so that everone can see and avoid dealing with him.
He accused me for cheating him and now he is threating me on the mail. He knows i'm a lady and want to scared me off.  All his good feedback is a liar and can be created by himself to lure his victim buying items from him. I want to post all his bad thing in the internet and let other know about this scam seller selling in ebay. Anyone recommed which forum is a best place other than lowyat.net. i want more poeple to know about this seller kbb2720. KOH CHENG SOON alias Micheal.
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This is the latest ebay message from him. Asking a malay guy to message me again. This is the rubbish that he said. I totally dunno what he is talking about.


abiechong Jan 17, 2008 at 22:54:28 MYT
I will post what you message me on the other forum i have open and now everbody is ready what you
message me.I dunno who are you and i'm not interested to talk to you. Since you reply me ,Ok then, a
lot of other buyer would like to see you too.I will ask other buyers to come together.If you dare or
you got guts give us your contact no, address no,we dun mind come to your place all the way from kl
to talk to you. I think a lot of your buyer wants to see you all. We will go together to meet you.


kbb2720 Jan 17, 2008 at 14:49:46 MYT

kami sebagai pemuda umno sedang menunggu kau datang menjelaskan hal anti-perkauman berkenaan dengan
penghinaan terhadap bangsa kami.
Rizal Shukri pemuda umno permatang pauh,penang.


kbb2720 Jan 17, 2008 at 14:45:55 MYT

oii..tauke aku dah penat layan kau laa..hang dah lupa apa yang kau cakap kat Jane-don be like low
class malay, no standard at all! dah lupakah?jane pun tak nak layan kau! bukan senang tuduh orang
macam2 tapi sendiri menghina kaum melayu buat tak tau kononnya!!tak pe..abang,pakcik dan pemuda umno
sekalian nak jumpa kau ni..negara inin penuh dgn kaum berbilang bangsa cik adik! jgn mencetuskan isu
perkauman kat ni laa..saya dah print message yg kau hantar kat jane laa..datanglah kedai kami.


abiechong Jan 17, 2008 at 14:22:07 MYT

Seen you you are hiding yourself then showing yourself up. Only cheater will hide away from buyer.
You sending fake handphone not only to me but to other of your buyers. Now, you don't want to respond
to us because you are indeed a scammmer and cheating buyer.


Added on January 17, 2008, 11:01 pmNow, he sent someone talking nonsense to me and not related to the fake phone he sent to me.

This post has been edited by Abie.C: Jan 17 2008, 11:01 PM
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next time please COD my lady.
I dun mean to make you feel bad, but this is online transaction with a very high ratio of risk, if you really need it, then u COD, if he cant COD, forget it.

in chinese saying, there is not big frog jump here and there.

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