justice league is DC's universe
the avenger or the ultimates or whatsoever they call it which include spidahman,ironman,hulk and such are from Marvel's universe

oh now i understand but it seems the less understood i am

One question, does anyone (esp Burga) know where I can get Norton's script because this one was horrible and paper thin. Norton however did himself no favors with a piss poor bland performance. I still stand by what I said that I'd watch this over Lee's Hulk though

Nope, Stan Lee never drew anything. He only did the plotting/scripting. The art chores were handled by a number of different artists, most famous among them Jack Kirby.

Together they created Ironman, Captain America, Thor, Hulk, Avengers, Fantastic Four, X-Men and other lesser known works.

This post has been edited by screech: Jun 21 2008, 10:52 PM

Stan Lee are not alone when he created the characters of Marvel Universe. There a lot more who give the idea of the characters. But the famous of them all are Stan Lee..

norton almost always carries an air of blandness around him anyway.... I mean he's okay, but he never excels past being just good except in one or two movies.

Watch Lee's Hulk again with a different mindset la. Dont expect a standard hollywood action blockbuster and you should at least find it pretty good.

Point 1: Edward Norton in my opinion is an excellent actor. Very demanding but nonetheless, excellent. I've always admired his willingness to stay away from big budget blockbusters and stay with smaller projects. Primal Fear, American History X and Fight Club have provided enough for me to think of him as being a fine actor. Hulk just sucked. Be it because of a lack of material to work on or him being pissed at his ideas not getting accepted, no one knows.

Lee's Hulk sucked. Okay, the comic book editing was great - I'd give you that and after seeing this Hulk, I'd say that Bana, Connelly, Nolte (Nolte >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roth ) and the old Ross (can't remember his name, Elliott?) were way better than this movie but for feck sake, you are directing a summer blockbuster, what the hell were you trying? Try directing a Bond movie and make it look like Get Smart. Let's see if that genius will get slated by the critics. I gave it another go on TV3 last week I think and I still thought it sucked.

I am Jack's enraged fingers.

I agree with.....Quickfire

Not surprising considering how we don't agree on anything.

Well its obvious who has the better taste then... ROFL. jk.

Anyway you can buy the Incredible Hulk's (and many others) screenplays here

How the heck you got Darabont's script then?!

Darabont's Indy script is not for sale. Its presumably locked up somewhere in Lucasfilm archives along with Jeb Stuart's, Jeff Nathanson's and Jeffrey Boam's. But, as fate would have it, Darabont's leaked and then spread like wildfire on the internet. I mean, this is the one script that everyone wanted to see after its rejection by Lucas despite enthusiasm from Spielberg. Now it hasn't been confirmed by Paramount, Lucasfilm or Darabont that its legit, but Moriarty of AICN and some other industry insiders have stated that it is legit. It reads like a real script (if it were a hoax, the writer would have to be a screenwriter himself) and someone has definitely been playing whack-a-mole with the sites that hosted the script. So all indications are that it is indeed legit.

This post has been edited by BurgaFlippinMan: Jun 22 2008, 12:42 AM

i like dis movie...
sooo childish...

I'm not gonna argue about norton. Try as he may he just cant shed that slight bit of blandness around him. Even in his best roles he has suspect acting moments, like at the end of AHX where he cries. That almost ruined the scene for me.

I'm not talking about the movie getting mauled by the critics here. I'm saying people should go watch it again in a different light, and not AS A SUMMER BLOCKBUSTER. Sometimes I wonder why people love Batman Begins and slate this. It's not a fun movie. There is hardly any fun in it. Perhaps its because batman has always been one of the darker and more serious of superheroes, while Hulk is the brainless all-fun-and-no-depth counterpart... so fans cant appreciate it when a director comes along and tries (and pretty successfully) gives it depth?

Yeah,i watched AHX and Fight Club few months ago.Edward Norton's acting was really great in both movies but in Hulk,i just find that he wasnt really given a chance to show his talent.

I guess the reason that he doesnt want to Hulk 2 is because of that.Hulk is too brainless and emotion less for him.

No matter which light you see it in, the Hulk should have been trimmed down by half an hour (the first half hour) and I think Iron Man has proved that you can have a good origin story (depth and fun) without boring the heck out of the audience. What made Batman Begins, Iron Man and even this (by .5 star) a better movie was the pacing of the film. I think Begins and Hulk was about the same length but by God, I thought I was watching Lawrence of Arabia when I was switching on to the Hulk.

This post has been edited by kobe8byrant: Jun 22 2008, 11:58 AM

Iron Man's depth doesn't even skin the surface of Hulk. Look at Hulk as a good, complex drama with a comic book element. Iron Man for all it accomplishes is still very much a standard fun blockbuster ala Spiderman. It's still is very well done though, I'm not gonna take that away. Needed more action and it could have been great.

I think it wouldnt be fair to Hulk if we were to compare it to movies like Spiderman, X=Men, and Iron Man. Its just different from the usual popcorn fare. It made the mistake of coming out in the wrong season, being hyped for the wrong reasons, and being targeted at the wrong audience.

Yes, but I wasn't talking about depth alone. I said that I thought that Iron Man had the right balance of both depth and fun.

By your logic, shouldn't we forgive Joel Schumacher's Batman bastardization for being a tongue in cheek mindless comedy with a comic book element? Doesn't take away that the film was rubbish. Admittedly, Lee's Hulk doesn't hit that level by any means, but it still sucked. In a nutshell, I wouldn't watch both Hulk movies again even if I was paid to do so.

I would say Edward Norton acting in this movie is better than the one he starred in The Illusionists and Kingdom of Heaven.

You know the first thing in my mind when Lee drank the 'green juice', i was like 'OMG, what will he become?'

I was okay with Illusionist and Orlando Bloom ruined KoH for me to even care two hoots about it. Liam Neeson FTW!!!