made me think of Mario!

And another, no Shakespearan confession between father and son

I had a bad feeling about Iron Man but it turned out well. I have a bad feeling about this as well but if this movie is good, we are in for a killer 2008. But Liv Tyler really is FTW!

I was thinking more Armageddon but LOTR will do

We need another reboot of the Hulk

One question, does anyone (esp Burga) know where I can get Norton's script because this one was horrible and paper thin. Norton however did himself no favors with a piss poor bland performance. I still stand by what I said that I'd watch this over Lee's Hulk though

Point 1: Edward Norton in my opinion is an excellent actor. Very demanding but nonetheless, excellent. I've always admired his willingness to stay away from big budget blockbusters and stay with smaller projects. Primal Fear, American History X and Fight Club have provided enough for me to think of him as being a fine actor. Hulk just sucked. Be it because of a lack of material to work on or him being pissed at his ideas not getting accepted, no one knows.

Lee's Hulk sucked. Okay, the comic book editing was great - I'd give you that and after seeing this Hulk, I'd say that Bana, Connelly, Nolte (Nolte >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roth ) and the old Ross (can't remember his name, Elliott?) were way better than this movie but for feck sake, you are directing a summer blockbuster, what the hell were you trying? Try directing a Bond movie and make it look like Get Smart. Let's see if that genius will get slated by the critics. I gave it another go on TV3 last week I think and I still thought it sucked.

I am Jack's enraged fingers.

Not surprising considering how we don't agree on anything.

How the heck you got Darabont's script then?!

No matter which light you see it in, the Hulk should have been trimmed down by half an hour (the first half hour) and I think Iron Man has proved that you can have a good origin story (depth and fun) without boring the heck out of the audience. What made Batman Begins, Iron Man and even this (by .5 star) a better movie was the pacing of the film. I think Begins and Hulk was about the same length but by God, I thought I was watching Lawrence of Arabia when I was switching on to the Hulk.

This post has been edited by kobe8byrant: Jun 22 2008, 11:58 AM

Yes, but I wasn't talking about depth alone. I said that I thought that Iron Man had the right balance of both depth and fun.

By your logic, shouldn't we forgive Joel Schumacher's Batman bastardization for being a tongue in cheek mindless comedy with a comic book element? Doesn't take away that the film was rubbish. Admittedly, Lee's Hulk doesn't hit that level by any means, but it still sucked. In a nutshell, I wouldn't watch both Hulk movies again even if I was paid to do so.

I was okay with Illusionist and Orlando Bloom ruined KoH for me to even care two hoots about it. Liam Neeson FTW!!!