No... too much oats causes binding that can lead to constipation. Carrots are high in sugars and Vitamin A, meaning the hamster can suffer diabetes and also Vit A intoxication, which is lethal..... please just use the proper hamster food. What do you mean big pellets? Is it those green coloured ones?

She cannibalized coz firstly, she bred when she was too young... resulting in some pups being premature.... so she cannibalized them so they won't suffer later in life. If she cannibalize the remaining 2, means she is not ready to be a mom.

Sometimes some give birth to a few is because get pregnant too early, sometimes female is not ready to be a mom and kills of her young.... things can happen.

Petshops do not care, so of course they sell at 3 weeks old. Most of the hamsters from Pets Wonderland there are actually underage, the hamsters there are never 4 weeks but as young as 3 weeks.... they do grow stunted or get sick easily coz their immune system is very weak. Take extra care of it.

It did not jump till it died. Because you inbred, it died from inbreeding.... hamsters that keep jumping continuously are like born with a disorder... like brain damaged....

guinea pigs are different, they are super sensitive and would die if they are too scared or are hurt.


You got 9.... I got more hahahah.... if you want cheaper, then mix a high quality brand with a normal brand. I mix Prestige with Harry Hamster and 2kg of Habitrail staple.... means RM18+RM18+RM13= RM49 and that only last me less than 3 weeks.... Also, I'm a student and my parents do not give me extra cash for my pets....

People here are not trying to flame you.... they are just concerned as to why you wanna find something cheaper.... coz to me, 9 hamsters is nothing compared to the 30 hamsters.... LOL... be cool about it. Everyone here is a concerned hamster owner, we would question alot and even may say somethings that we may not think it is that personal but to you maybe it is.... but just be cool about it and listen.

They will eat....

RM7 for habitrail is not 2kg.... it is 1.2kg..... 2 kg is RM12.50 to Rm13....

Yes, you can separate.... but make sure it really can eat.

It doesn't cost much.... about RM20 or maybe RM5... who knows what the vet may charge.... The teeth grows pretty fast.

Female syrians smell.... coz of their heat cycle.... Do not bath it.

Keep alone is best.... Robos only do well with pairs or small groups.

LOL.... too bad rats are not in demand.... if they are, sure I won't have any available anymore hahahah..... Rats are much nicer than mice.

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Added on January 22, 2008, 10:30 pmNot all robos are friendly.... it is their nature to be scared and cautious of everything.

Anyway, you should change your cage into a tank. It is dangerous to keep robos in the cage you are using. Habitrail cage is fine but not the one you are using.

Why they do not climb the ladder when you modify with cardboard is that it is hard to grip while climbing....

Yes, they will. If the injured WW is in another WW's territory, the strong one would protect and defend its territory by fighting off another.... it would kill too.

RCs from petshops are rarely tame.... they are the best to be in colonies but if you get those that are from petshops, they will bite..... the RCs from breeders do not or can say rarely bite.

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Jan 22 2008, 10:30 PM

Happy CNY to everyone.

I'm back after a long month of working....

Well, I don't really have time to read everything and reply one by one.... so see how it goes, will try to reply those that need help.

Anyway, breeding is never easy, there is much planning to be made. Extra cages/tanks... food.... care.... supplies....

But most important is never breed if you do not have knowledge on hamster breeding. Breed for the right reasons. I see a few people who are breeding for quality and tameness, good for you guys and go on in doing proper breeding, concentrate on what you got. Never breed if you cannot handle death... also never breed if you got sibling hamsters..... Never overbreed.

Almost all dwarf hamster males actually take care of the young.... this I have seen before with own experience once.... but then the males just sleep on them and groom them sometimes..... the female hamster is the key care giver. So always separate your females after they have birth of have shown signs of pregnancy already. There is no need for the male to be with the young..... in the wild, dwarf hamsters live in colonies.... but they rarely fight badly since they got lots of space in the wild to escape or hide. In captivity, it is just a small space for them, so escaping fights and squabbles and breedings is just hard.

We are responsible for our pets, so we must give them a good life. Make sure you do the right thing and provide proper care for your hamsters.

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Added on February 12, 2008, 2:04 amBright red coz of camera and lighting. It is not called maroon eyes.... it is called Ruby.... but it can differ in shades.....

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Feb 12 2008, 02:04 AM

Firstly, a grumpy female is gonna be hard to tame.... and with pups, it will be risky and harder.

You should start taming at 3 weeks.... or 18 days.... but it won't all be successful.... if the parents aren't really tame, then 1 or 2 pups may end up becoming bitey as some biting habit is inbred in them.... this is from experience.... RC requires constant handling, more handling than WW if you want them to stay tame. If you neglect for a few days, for sure it would become bitey again.

The cage is a Critter Trail pink cage.... that cage is only fit for 1 hamster....

Do not get promo packs from Pets Wonderland as most of it is just a sales gimmick..... 2 hamsters, they will give you a male and female, they will breed non-stop if you do not practice ethical and proper breeding methods, then it will bring you trouble and burn your wallet..... Think before buying. I wouldn't ask about worth it or not as I would never buy a promo pack that contains pets in it like PW do.... all sales gimmick. Get hamsters from breeders and buy your supplies and accessories according to what you need and also space....

Hahaha..... having fun with little WW pups? 20 days is alright..... 18 to 20 days is a good time to start touching but always make sure the female is ok with you.

Hamsters sexually mature at 5 weeks old, but if WW or Robos, 8 weeks can already breed. You should start separating at 5 to 6 weeks old.

Hahaha, saw your Shasha that day. I also got a black eyed cream. I'm hoping to breed solid sable soon, the dark sable but I need to find a dark umbrous female to breed first heheheh....

Did you send me a MMS?

From the pic, is a bit hard to tell. You should try Hands and Paws vet. Ask jtl to give you the contact and directions, dr Jenny should know how to treat as she has done quite a number of treatments on my small animals. Dr Jenny is in on Mondays, Saturdays and Sundays.

Could be over licking, causing an irritation which let to an infection. Sometimes that could happen.

Too young..... why did you breed her? It is not good to breed that young as it can cause health problems or shorten its lifespan.....

Stop breeding your hamsters for now, do not overbreed.

Nice Syrians.... do remember that they are solitary.

Yups.... that is a Syrian.... there is no dorsal stripe and the body is more rattish than roundish.

Oh dear, you lost her in your home? It is possible to get her back. I would suggest a rat cage.... but sometimes you can catch back easily as Syrians will come out for food at night. Keep looking, I hope you find Shasha back. Good luck.

Means must separate already. How old are they? Pretty syrians , I love syrians now, got 8 of them....

What staple are you using? Sometimes it could be the food..... maybe stale, not enough variety, plain boring.... as you have been feeding treats to them, they have lost the taste for their normal staple food.

Kuaci is just full of fat and oils. A bit of kuaci is good, but too much is just bad. It is better to include other type of seeds like flaxseed, pumpkin seeds... that's why Prestige and Harry Hamster are better, the variety of seeds, pellets and grains are much more varied and high in nutrition. If you open a bag of Prestige, the smell of fruits and herbs is just so lovely.

Of course they love it. It's high in fat, and very addictive in taste. Is like a cheese burger or whatever junkfood to humans, it is addictive. So we must control the kuaci intake.

Habitrail staple is very basic, with nothing much but loads of kuaci, wheat, corn and alfalfa pellets..... not a varied diet....

Hamsters prefer to be alone.... so if they want to do separate stuff, then let them.

Also, hamsters enjoy hiding in their hide box or house. So just let your hamster be. She is doing what instinct tells her to do, which is to say out of sight.

You won't find Harry Hamster or Prestige at Pets Wonderland, only Pet Shack, Pet Safari, Pet Epicure and Petsmore sell them.

Firstly, you already know she doesn't make a good mother, then why in the world are you letting them both live together in the same cage? You want her to get stressed up again and eat more babies?

Hope you separate them soon.....

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Added on February 21, 2008, 9:08 pmToday I had a hamster shopping spree.... bought 3 new syrians and 3 robos.... 2 syrians are the Satin variety.... then 1 is a black eyed cream. Then my robos are a great find! 2 are White Face Robos! LOL....

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Feb 21 2008, 09:08 PM

I see.... well, you gotta be careful about breeding..... coz sometimes even old already, pregnancies can occur.

You need not worry much about the changes, sometimes such things happen. As long your Robos appear healthy, alert and active, they would be fine.

Of course. There are many types, flu, wet tail, hairloss, fungus, mange, allergies, pneumonia.... this is just a few common types, you should Google to find out or get a book.

I do but currently my breeders are still not ready. I'm a hobbyist breeder, not a commercial or mass breeder so I do take time and only breed when my hamsters are ready Never over breed them.

My GS thread old already, I will be doing a new one once everything is running smoothly at my side. Anyway, look out at GS, there got a few people selling I think.... WW.... Robos not so much, but sure will have some soon. Just take your time in getting a hamster, do not rush.

Yups, animals breed in order to survive. Kinda worrying when people put human emotions together with animals. I see this happening to people buying on impulse from most petshops. For example, when I was at Petsmore to get my hamsters, the staff asked Reanne and I, "Do you want a male and female couple?" Wahhh.... that really was.... well, this would wrongly mislead alot of new hamster owners. They would think all hamsters have to be in an opposite sex pair. Worst is that the hamsters I bought were Syrians! Well, in the end I got a male and female but of course they are in their own cages

Sugar gliders are different. They are colony animals, they survive in groups.... with no group, they would need constant companionship.... is not love, it's just companionship. Like parrots and certain animals.


You should not have done that. Why did you wanna intro a new hamster to them? When you intro any new hamster to an existing pair or colony, it could stress your older hamsters, causing them to be defensive. Also, female RCs do not do well with new members and they could kill each other..... hamsters are territorial and would fight till death to protect their space.

You mean you put 1 hamster in 1 hand and another in the other hand? Or you put the new hamster in your hand and you stuck your hand into your older hamster's cage?

As said before, hamsters are territorial.... even a new hamster's smell can cause upset and stress.... when she has smelt the presence of another hamster, her instinct to protect her area kicks in. The drive to chase off other hamsters erased the memory of her sister. This can happen with hamsters.... sometimes it doesn't, so it depends lah.....

A split cage is also good.... but the problem with hamsters is that not all like to live in groups. Robos yes, RC can lah but it depends... WW only with siblings can they get along till old age....

Sometimes we have to be cautious lah, better not intro new hamsters to existing groups or pairs.... Also, age difference plays..... if you intro young hamsters together, it won't cause bad fights, maybe some squabbling. But to intro new members to adults, it is risky.

LOL.... that's not a new breed. Those are adult RC hamsters that have been fed on a diet of chicken food. They are that fat coz of the corn and oils in the feed, also bloated with water.

The colour is not called Panda.... Mottleds.... but some got the silvering gene, so it makes them look different.

That's a duprasi@Fat Tailed Gerbil.... not a hamster. It is expensive coz it is rare and very difficult to breed.

Yah, saw it.... not a new breed. Mottleds are sometimes called pandas.... like how black and white Syrians are called Panda Syrians as well.

Good for you. Lucky nothing serious happen. Once 2 of my RCs fought till 1 lost a ear.... but after the ear incident, they became friends again. Kinda rare....