that's 3 agouti n 1 albino.. it's not argente becos doesnt look like my 3 argente pups at all.. page 1 of this thread contains many info on wat u can feed ur hamsters

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Added on March 23, 2008, 6:35 pmread up on wat u're supposed/NOT supposed to do when breeding hamsters..

This post has been edited by jayniel: Mar 23 2008, 06:35 PM

tsk tsk, i can't imagine a woman giving birth over n over again.. i mean, tat's absolute torture.. same with animals, no matter they're rodents or watever, dun torture them like tat.. poor thing... at least wait a few months before allowing them to have the next batch (that is if u r at all ready for it....)

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Added on March 24, 2008, 6:02 pmRC? c some agouti n argente there..

This post has been edited by jayniel: Mar 24 2008, 06:02 PM

wanna ask some RC pros here.. i bought a RC from a forumer not loo long ago, but recently she has shown signs of flipping iover.. sometimes she even do somersaults backwards too..

the forumer told me it's just her playful behaviour.. but i dun think so n i think it's a genetic deformity.. may i noe wat reli is the cause? will it pass down to her future pups? very concerned here, need urgent guidance on this matter.. n how can it be cured?

thanks alot, just wanna clarify my doubts ere..

it could've started happening weeks ago, but i do not notice.. until yesterday nite (i slept late) i notice it flips n somersaults.. it's impossible she bangs her head on anything cos there's nth in my tank except water bottle n plastic food bowl.. btw she's probably around 2 months old now.. it's happening again today n it could be wat u said, a genetic disorder.. but she's not a mottled.. any idea how this came about? inbreeding? parents carrying this disorder? she still carries out normal activiteis but will flip all of a sudden..

hope the forumer wont breed that line again.....

thanks for ur reply.. now i know more about this..

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Added on March 26, 2008, 5:59 pmok, first of all, u shouldnt breed them for fun.. because giving birth is not a fun thing to them, at all.. next, there is no such thing as profit making in breeding hamsters unless u spent very little on them, which means not taking care of them well.. i breed hamsters too n am still making losses due to the amount i spend on them everyday..

next i hope u'll do research on the hamster u're trying to breed before actually doing so.. by saying tat ur hamster are pearls when they are actually agouti show ur lack of knowledge.. if u're breeding hamsters to sell to people, then make an effort to breed a good quality hamsters, not just simply breed n sell to make money..

when breeding them u need to take very good care of the mother.. feed good food to her.. n u need to separate the male into another cage/tank to prevent overbreeding, which will exhaust the female.. there are tonnes of info on the first page of this thread, or u can even google on wat u shud/shudnt do when breeding a hamster.. read up on genetics too if possible.. above all, every breeder must have an objective in wat they're doing.. if ur objective is just for fun n profit, pls reconsider for the hamsters' sake

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Added on March 26, 2008, 6:09 pmmain factor is the gender/sex of the hamsters..
male-male pairs will fight when they reach minimum 2 months of age, this is from my experience.. but some people have experienced their males to be able to live peacefully till adulthood..

another factor is the size of cage/tank..
winter white is very territorial, fyi.. they will fight over space.. so providing a bigger cage/tank may help the situation to a certain level ONLY..

since they've been attacks to the point of bleeding, best n only way is to separate them, before fatality occurs.. males ww are harderto remain together til adulthood becos of BOTH the reasons above..

u din make any mistakes, but probably the careless mistake u did was to place them together?

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Added on March 26, 2008, 6:18 pmans:
1. neither are pearls.......
2. sterile means 'mandul'.. 'mandul' means unable to produce young.. in WW, it only happens to male heterozygous pearl..
3. age is not easy to determine, for me i look at their length of the body n also their face.. let people with more experience answer this
4. go to a vet
5. u shud always pair with SAME SPECIES.. wat we're talking about here is the coat color.. certain coat colors when paired up, give 'cacat' pups.. this 1 u have to google for more info, cos there's too much to say..


ps/ n ya, the cage is only enuf for 1 hamster..

This post has been edited by jayniel: Mar 26 2008, 06:22 PM

hooverbell's one of our forumers that have 3 long-haired syrians.. apparently she bought them from jonker walk, melaka

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u can separate the tanks using impraboard.. can buy inpraboard from bookstores eg. Popular.. this method i learn from Crazymouse de.. very useful..

i missed it too.. but i thought it's only for dogs n cats? the entrance fee itself is already rm5 lol..

zzz.. go wash then.. lolz..

sometimes, the highest price is not the rarest.. the highest price for me so far is roborovski, n they certainly r not rare.. there are even rarer hamsters like certain colors of the RC, and also the white-faced robo which i've been looking for too..

it's VERY rare, because it's quite hard to breed that color.. many steps needed for it..

wat hamsters u have there?

another possibility is the female pregnant, so will be more aggressive.. but very seldom will lead to fights.. do they draw blood?

anyone noes where the pet shop near pudu raya is? how to go there from the bus station?

well i cant tell u wat happen, but ur second floor can cause hurt to the hamster's legs.. put card board on top of it or smth to prevent the hamster's legs from going thru..

well, hamsters noe when to take out the food they store.. i dun think it's cos of rotting, more probably an external cause.. well, maybe u can apply some medicine or wat?

maybe wat u can do is fix the tubes sideways instead of upwards.. at least they will not keep falling..

i think for 1 week is ok.. but make sure the water is full n the food is enough for 1 week.. n preferably change the bedding b4 u leave..

well, u ought to separate them in the first place.. do not place them together anymore.. u should have thought tat this would happen in the first place.. separate those that cannot be placed together..

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Added on April 7, 2008, 5:30 pmu can actually start touching them when their fur have grown.. but beware because they walk very fast.. careful not to drop them or hold them too high, so as not to injure them..

This post has been edited by jayniel: Apr 7 2008, 05:30 PM

lolz repeating my words..