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 The Quad Core "Advantage"?, Quad vs Dual core in the REAL world

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post May 13 2008, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ May 13 2008, 12:35 PM)
no you dont need more space, you need 4x raptors in raid 0

or as much as your sata ports raid 0 on 320gb hdd's D:

coz afaik, .BMP files are a real pita when using photochop. its like 900mb files D:
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Stop giving bad advice. RAID-0 is unsafe as primary storage. Save a few seconds for each file IOP? So what? When one drive fails, the whole array gets taken with it and the user is left screwed. Depending when his last backups were made, he may have to catch up with a week's lost work. Not to mention the time spent reinstalling the OS and applications.

Repeat: RAID-0 is unsafe as primary storage.

Not to mention, getting more space can result in getting more (sequential) speed due to the increased platter density. New 500G drives are competitive with Raptor 150's sequential speed, while being 3x larger and 1/2 as cheap.
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post May 13 2008, 02:07 PM

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I think it's a never ending debate and what a person should do is to read up some reviews and understand what a Dual vs Quad core can do in different tasks, programs, games then decide what's best for himself. Honestly, there are plenty of them around the Internet and all we need is to "google" it up smile.gif I've read it myself too and base on that, I decide not to go for Quad core at this point in time. Not to mention that the Wolfdale's are better overclockers for now (in terms of performance VS money)
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post May 13 2008, 02:24 PM

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i've tested lost planet.......
there is an option 2 set either 2 o 4 cores...............

if u hav quad, set it to 4........den only ur c da performance of quad............

quad gives u more flexibility..........
as i said in previous post, u pc dun just run a single application @ a time...............

p/s: quad hav more OC potential den dual...............

dun compare OC for q6600 & 8xxx..........
it is just not fair, 65nm vs 45nm............

This post has been edited by tech3910: May 13 2008, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ May 13 2008, 02:07 PM)
I think it's a never ending debate and what a person should do is to read up some reviews and understand what a Dual vs Quad core can do in different tasks, programs, games then decide what's best for himself. Honestly, there are plenty of them around the Internet and all we need is to "google" it up smile.gif I've read it myself too and base on that, I decide not to go for Quad core at this point in time. Not to mention that the Wolfdale's are better overclockers for now (in terms of performance VS money)
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Nicely said there. I guess it all depends on user's specific tasks and usage as mentioned earlier. And performance/price ratio is the best guide to be referred to have a quality CPU that can save money and still deliver the perofrmance you need.
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tech3910, what has 65nm vs 45nm got to do with performance of the CPU?
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post May 13 2008, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ May 13 2008, 03:50 PM)
tech3910, what has 65nm vs 45nm got to do with performance of the CPU?
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45nm has more OC potential.....................

basically(usually) smaller is better @ OC....
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post May 13 2008, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ May 13 2008, 11:39 AM)
It is always case by case basis and if everyone runs vmware then perhaps everyone should go Quad core. If a typical PC user that only does Microsoft Office, Internet surfing and gaming then a Dual Core works just as well. It's not easy to max out 100% CPU usage all the time unless we're doing something very extensive.

However, if the person has extra cash to spend then by all means get the most expensive CPU out there smile.gif
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A trend on the web is that, javascript is getting the spotlight, and should the js vm making good use of threads... quad cores might be needed. You can try on website with full animation on js it could choke the entire browser but too bad it just utilizes 1 cores.

Other than that, well most 'office' task even a single core is enough. icon_rolleyes.gif
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I had my C2D overclocked and did not have problems in almost everything I do including Java websites smile.gif If you open up a log to track CPU usage, you'll be suprised how hard it is to hit 100% all the time. Of course there are always exceptions which is why I say case by case basis. If we don't need it, don't get it and why not use the cash for something else. Those 27" LCD's are sweet, lol.
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post May 13 2008, 04:22 PM

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post May 13 2008, 05:17 PM

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however... how long can core 2 duo last in market... which curious me....
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QUOTE(riku2replica @ May 13 2008, 05:17 PM)
however... how long can core 2 duo last in market... which curious me....
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There would always be a new line, family of CPU's and this would depend on Intel's roadmap.
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post May 13 2008, 06:55 PM

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my c2d still doing a good job......so far so good.....
really like to try the quad but dont have the budget right now
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post May 13 2008, 07:39 PM

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the only thing i like about my current c2d is... the speed when extracting rar file.. but... my e6420 seems to have so heat porblem so still thinking of some solution... might want to try back that intel original hsf.
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QUOTE(tech3910 @ May 13 2008, 02:57 PM)
45nm has more OC potential.....................

basically(usually) smaller is better @ OC....
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Not really.Q6600 vs Q9450,Q6600 win in max oc biggrin.gif Because 8x vs 9x multiplier sweat.gif
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post May 13 2008, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ May 13 2008, 09:18 PM)
Not really.Q6600 vs Q9450,Q6600 win in max oc biggrin.gif Because 8x vs 9x multiplier sweat.gif
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dis is b cause q9450 has less cache den 6600..............
try 9550 insted...........
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QUOTE(tech3910 @ May 13 2008, 10:02 PM)
dis is b cause q9450 has less cache den 6600..............
try 9550 insted...........
Wrong.
Dude, stop posting nuts again and again.

Q9450 losses to Q6600 in overclocking is because of low multiplier, not because of the cache.
Cache has nothing to do with overclocking.

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post May 13 2008, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ May 13 2008, 11:04 PM)
Wrong.
Dude, stop posting nuts again and again.

Q9450 losses to Q6600 in overclocking is because of low multiplier, not because of the cache.
Cache has nothing to do with overclocking.
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multiplier & cache both is essential in OC.........
i nvr test the 9k series b4 (no sample)...............

anyway.....9450 & 9550 both has 12mb cache, 9550 shud do better @ OC....................

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post May 13 2008, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE
tech3910,May 13 2008, 10:24 PM]
multiplier & cache both is essential in OC.........
i nvr test the 9k series b4 (no sample)...............

anyway.....9450 & 9550 both has 12mb cache, 9550 shud do better @ OC....................


u never tested it and u dare to give suggestion??? shocking.gif shocking.gif doh.gif

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post May 13 2008, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ May 13 2008, 11:33 PM)
u never tested it and u dare to give suggestion??? shocking.gif  shocking.gif  doh.gif
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i just got mix up wit da 9300 spec.......dats all............
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post May 13 2008, 11:17 PM

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even if u refering to q9300 specs u shud noe it still cant OC better than a q6600 right tongue.gif


n hope u can enlighten me on how cache affects OC notworthy.gif

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