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 The Quad Core "Advantage"?, Quad vs Dual core in the REAL world

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Kagaya
post Jun 23 2008, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(drgadgets @ Jan 3 2008, 07:48 PM)
I'm sure many of us here, being enthusiasts, have either dual core or quad core processers. And while quad-core seems to shine in syntethic benchmarks, the real world performance paints a very different picture mad.gif . Of course, that's not the end of the story. Having quad-core enables u to run many apps at once, like torrents and gaming, along with say RSS feed downloading, virus scans, sytem utilities at full speed.

Has anyone found a piece of software/game that makes good use of the extra cores? Do u think that having 2 extra cores boosts productivity? Or is it just an over-hyped, over-expensive innovation from Intel meant to squeeze every last bit of enthusiast dollar they can get their hands on hmm.gif ? Let the world(or at least LYNians) know what u think!

P/S : My personal opinion is that quad core is worthwhile, mainly because it future-proofs ur cpu investment icon_rolleyes.gif
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Eventhough I'm still a single core user, I believe those who adopt a multicore rig, as high as quad core, is rather wasteful. Only if you are into HD content, wide-screen gaming and multitasking.

Waiting for a true MAINSTREAM program that can truly harness the raw power of a multicore processor is futile. MP3 player? Office productivity suit? It'll never reach that stage. Perhaps some serious number cruncher, 3D rendering and programming, or as a mainframe serving multiple thin clients, that I believe the more core the better.

If user now felt that their multi-core processor isn't fully utilized, perhaps they should start playing with Processor Affinity; where user will set all SYSTEM task to Core 0, while user task to Core 1, and separate it as those processes are multi-thread but non-SIMD. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 23 2008, 09:24 PM

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@Respond to 1st post

A friend of mine using a Quad Core, less ram than i had but smoother than i got. (lol this is nonsense XD sure smoother tongue.gif)

Anywhere, thinking to get 1 also, but intel got announced it will come out 6-cores this year right~ (see see first)

PLUS, recently in forum had found out, not every program are fully utilize Quad Core...

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post Jun 23 2008, 11:20 PM

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4get about dual o quad.........

how bout 2++ cores? nVidia CUDA any1?
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post Jun 23 2008, 11:34 PM

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@Kagaya
thanks for the idea... now then i know about the affinity and playing it now... i notice that core0 doesnt have any usage when i set all the system to that core... i wanna ask will it be lag if the usage in 2nd core is high?
anyway i dont think it will be wasteful for me as i do play HD content and those graphic things... hehe

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post Jun 25 2008, 11:22 AM

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whatever u guys said, i still think HDD makes everything slow be it on dual or quad when fully utilised..i just cant stand it..haih
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post Jun 25 2008, 01:13 PM

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hmm come to think of it... it make sense also... my HDD always lag and loading so slow...
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post Jun 25 2008, 10:56 PM

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^but today's SSD (solid state disc).. so no more slow hdd..

its depend on software.. if u still using xp and not a hardcore video encoder/gamer, then single core is enough.. dual core mean gaming for me..

<sorry for bad english>..
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post Jun 25 2008, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(NOX @ Jun 25 2008, 10:56 PM)
^but today's SSD (solid state disc).. so no more slow hdd..

its depend on software.. if u still using xp and not a hardcore video encoder/gamer, then single core is enough.. dual core mean gaming for me..

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for me dual core already enough. yeah hdd thing is the annoying thing.
but if quad core price is as low as rm499, who wouldnt want one rite? whistling.gif


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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Jun 23 2008, 11:20 PM)
4get about dual o quad.........

how bout 2++ cores? nVidia CUDA any1?
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Is it a cpu?
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post Jun 26 2008, 03:39 AM

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QUOTE(Federer @ Jun 26 2008, 02:26 AM)
Is it a cpu?
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its GPU, which nVidia will use 2 challenge intel domination.....

its actually 2 c how these 2 completely different architecture goes up against each other...........
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post Jun 26 2008, 09:02 AM

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i am currently using a dual core...and running illustrator sometimes it just hangs... laugh.gif so i would really go for quad core...but no money buy..so must use mental support... doh.gif

using a GPU to challenge a CPU...its like a bear and a silver back gorilla.....who will win??
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post Jun 26 2008, 09:48 AM

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I wonder why the core can't past 3++ GHz at the factory
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post Jun 26 2008, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(Federer @ Jun 26 2008, 09:48 AM)
I wonder why the core can't past 3++ GHz at the factory
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coz the factory has lots of factors to be considered:
1.the heat it produced(higher frequency produce more heat),since stock coolers are generally not good enuf especially for quads.
2.the amount of power it draws,the higher ur frequency, the more current it draws from TNB(very true during OC)
3.the warranty it gives u,manufacturers need to assure close to 100% stability(no system in the world has 100% stability) and good life span of the chip.
4.Quota of production.Example:intel feels tht not many Kentsfield procs can pass 3.0Ghz(they test it throughly before they brand it, thts y u get Q6600,Q6700-->its the same chip) while maintaining the same TDP of 130W with all other Kentsfield proc,maintain the same Vcore used by Q6600 and maintain the same amount of stability and predicted lifespan of Q6600. its true, some might be able to do it but the quantity wise is very little,how to sell the product then considering additional cost of packaging for new variant of the proc and other factors. like dat might as well scrap the plan for 3ghz version.
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post Jun 26 2008, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(Federer @ Jun 26 2008, 10:48 AM)
I wonder why the core can't past 3++ GHz at the factory
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dis thread already answer u.............
b couse people figure out dat having multicore is a better solution den having faster proc.......
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post Jun 26 2008, 12:53 PM

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post Jun 27 2008, 12:20 AM

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How about using Intel Death Trail mobo & equip it with two quad extreme ftw!! ur gonna own a 8x core!!
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post Jun 27 2008, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Vor @ Jun 27 2008, 12:20 AM)
How about using Intel Death Trail mobo & equip it with two quad extreme ftw!! ur gonna own a 8x core!!
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i've read news about intel bringing back the hyper threading technology in P4 days to its upcoming CPU production.quad core become virtual 8 cores.just wish more applications will make use of so many cores.
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post Jun 27 2008, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jun 27 2008, 03:12 PM)
i've read news about intel bringing back the hyper threading technology in P4 days to its upcoming CPU production.quad core become virtual 8 cores.just wish more applications will make use of so many cores.
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nehalem is actually quad core wit 8 threads..............
so it will simulate 8 cores, nice

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