Hi there,originially i wanted to post a reply in respect of a thread whether or not sex will crumble a couple's relationship and the thread starter included that question as a poll and the story was something like her female friend is having bf prob whereby her bf is treating her like total stranger when they are living under the same roof after how the girl had refused to have sex with the bf becaue the girl somehow never enjoyed it after a couple of intercourse(pain,not comfortable).

The "Is sex really important?" poll
What i wanna tell the thread starter was that,if you are a female,grown up enough to think properly,your very common sense will think that being together with the guy is no good choice.And i see that almost 90% of the females here would agree with me,as they understand that females go by emotion while males have needs,and they couldn't care less(which also the case here). I didn't read all the post,but some,and before reading the post i view the results of the poll that goes by the question : "Will sex crumbles your relationship". Amazingly,the votes for "YES" have 532 votes where as "NO" has only 199 votes. Funny isn't it ?? It's funny when i see there are majority of the male and females,especially,voicing out which obviously indicated the answer "NO".

My worry is this.Most of the "YES" votes here are from those creepy ,sick males which wanna manipulate women thoughts by winning on this poll. "No people will be that free just to that lar miss" ,if that's what you are telling me,i'd give u an example here : There's this couple here,in late teens,being together for 5 years,the guys is handsome, church boy,financially ok and smart and as for the girl,guys drool for her,and is also some no.1 girl in class.And this guy here is going overseas to further his studies and is saw him setting up a poll on his blog with the questions "do u believe in long distance relationship?" and the answer "No,u are naive" outnumbered "Yes love is everything" by as much as the poll above.To tell u secretly i voted "No" because i'm also quite an bad ass here but it's not like i want the guy(the guy love the girl too much) but i seriously don't do long distance(unless it's some real real real love that's it) but there's a little evil part of me wanting to see them break off.Okay,flame me. I assume that the majority of the forumers here are males,and it won't hurt them to just fulfill their evil thoughts with just one click ,just like what i've done to that guy's poll.Oh yeah,and thread starter,what i wanna say to you is,assuming if that bf of your friends felt upset because the gf made him look as if he's not good in bed or doesn't give in to your bf,u know urself well that he's a trash and please don't rely on that poll.Of course,it is also possible that you know the answer well enough but just seeking opinions from the forum-ers.

(Actually at this point some guys might be thinking i hold grudge on males and part of you might shouting gender equality.Okay i may act sound somewhat feminist sometimes but i know myself well that how i hate b****es the most.No hard feelings to u male forumers,i'm just talking about general facts.Rape and kill cases are often committed by guys and i know females sexual harass guys too but that's minor compare to the previous one and very rare they kill the male rape victim.Not trying to degrade females here,but i do admit very often in the society men always excel women as women are always not ambitious enough,not strong-willed enough.Just trying to be fair here.)

The "Condom on or without" poll

Seriously this poll wanna make me puke. In case you don't know what i'm talking about,go see for yourself here.I can't believe the number for "without" outnumbered " on" for more than 50% or so.There are still choices like still virgin or depends or even don't know.I believe we need to only focus on the answers " Yes" "No" or "Depends".There's already an option for depends,meaning u can have sex without condom if the girl is on pills,other safety measures are already taken and whatnot.But what's up with the answer " No" really! If you are a guy,i can say u an irresponsible horny man who just know how to have sex,okay,i'm not gonna use the word animal(animals have no brains and they know only how to multiply) here as i expect some people will see me as an old virgin,guy-hated b****, sexlife-less b**** or whatever names they are gonna call.I'm referring to those losers who don't have a plan in getting babies and solely for better pleasure without having thought bout the consequences. And for the females who voted "without" ,unless u have all the safety measures taken ,i'd say you are worse than the guy even if you willingly give in.I just don't know why people can not love their body.You might as well just return in to God then.

I'm sorry to say this again,it's again something against guys also.I somehow have the perception that most of the votes it's better not to have condom are from males.Again i'm surprised if these are the votes ALL coming from females.Unless they are retarded enough to wanna get pregnant out of sudden and go for abortion,women will make sure they won't be taken advantage.Also,if the girl wants real-meat-contact i'm sure she'll take other precaution measures as well.I read some of the post and alot of them saying "without condom not syiok and i bet the girl also want good sex" and i don't know what else to see them except monkeys(a species more close to human,thank me).


You see,the whole thing is i'm quite angered IF,i said "if", there are some lame horny losers that dying for a shoot try to come around this ladies' corner and think they can change their mindset by simply posting their lame comments and always have this every-girls-enjoy-sex-but-depends-on-who-the-guy-is stupid thought. Well,i'm not saying that every girls hate sex in fact i there are a lot of girls do enjoy it and most of them know how to take care of themselves.

I know myself well that the anger had made me created this thread and at the same time i also wish to warn those if there are any girls who are not wise enough to expose themselves to dangers.Sometimes,when you girls ask questions related to sex,be sure who you are asking to,always separate the genders,cause both classes give very different answers.Heck,what am i saying,i talk as if i'm some old virgin lecturing primary school students.At the same time,i appreciate the males there who actually voice out on those topics and actually gave comments that are fair and reasonable,i really think that you are all gentlemen.

All in all,no hard feelings here against anyone and why would i care so much if you may ask.My answer is that i hope the women here are more aware of their rights and safety because by this only then the males(referring to the bad ass males) would not think that they can do whatever they can do on us.This is very important especially in asia, women are still somehow being valued less in the society and i wish this could changed by simply women know when to say NO and by simply being able to counter all the males' bullies.

Phew,i sure have typed a lot.Thanks for reading.

I regard any poll result here as totally inaccurate.

Looking at the replies from the various threads (especially the ones you highlighted), it's not surprising that girls don't participate here.

Plenty of desperate male hanging around here and still they got the cheek not enough girls participating.

nobody cares what you think or what you say on whatever you think on the polls result.

Is good you have voice out your opinion which is good advice for all the girl but the final decision is still on their hand. If they really have though of all those there won't have so much accident pregnancy every year. There is also some girl which is never care at all what will happen to them.

As for the poll result you can't blame if the vote is majority voted by male in this forum as female population is more than male in this world.

Thank you so much for saying something ,goldfries, with people who has "powers" like you here saying something decent is really some significant good sign.Looks like i've just had a gentlemen here saying that the poll result aren't really that accurate as you may think.

Ermm just to add on something to my 1st post, i've been so long-winded in my 1st post because i crap a lot to avoid any war break out.And apparently i'm gonna do the same thing again. I read some post by the guys here saying sex is almost a must in a marriage and that marriage without sex is ur dream and that you should get a life. I do not disagree with this person who gave such comment,after all,normal marriages mean,intentions to create a family.And again,humans are results of evolution from animals and we have our needs,regardless males or females and thus healthy sex life should be practiced.

After me screaming about how males should respect women and how women should stop being silly and get cheated,it's still weird to think a relationship can keep going with proper sex life isn't it. Oh,i did see some posts saying many girls never enjoyed sex because there were no foreplay,the girl's u-know-what is not lubricated,the guy has no skills and whatnot...which,i know it may be correct but it seems to me the male's ego is still there.Seriously, i don't see a reason why a normal,good healthy guy should just treat her gf like a stranger just because probably the gf didn't tell the bf she wanted a foreplay, or the gf is not wet(or whatever u call it). Whatever it maybe,the bf shouldn't treat the gf like that because the gf has done wrong whatsoever,okay,maybe didn't talk to her bf bout why she's reluctant to have sex.My...

Again,thanks.

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Added on December 21, 2007, 3:52 amYou may wanna think again.I'm already in my late teens and more mature so i know what is right and wrong,on basic things.But you know,back when i was in early teens i was really naive and if i really refer to the poll results,i might have thought that Malaysians are so open to the extent that it normal that people don't play safe sex.Of course,girls with brains won't care less on the polls but i'm just bothered by the fact that those votes might really affect part of the people,even 1 or 2 is also a life!

Honestly,i never care what the polls say,never even to bother to vote especially the answer is so clear.I guess i'm here just to be some smart-alleck



You know i'm an anime fan and i always go to IRC for that purpose.Whenever i speak,the ppl there always,always and always assume i'm a guy and the ppl once said "there's no girl in internet" hah...

This post has been edited by namae_dake: Dec 21 2007, 03:52 AM

You should be a writer and write some books...

Who ever mention this is on his opinion only.
I wouldn't say female not using internet. In fact I do believe female can debate much much better than male.
If not every couple went in argument the one who will win in the end always is female.

This post has been edited by Asurada: Dec 21 2007, 04:07 AM

internet never a real thing either ...all data is stored sumwhr but after awhile of time it eventually will be wipe off...

Err welcome to the internet? If you take anything here seriously, you'll get heart attack very often XD Don't even bother about those polls. Those are lame 'attention-whoring' threads by desperado. All you have to do is to ignore them and let them continue pretending to be female or making a fool out of themselves. (And they still want to complain about not getting a gf or getting laid, goodness forbid, if you act like a transsexual all the time, it'll be a wonder if you do get any.)

Heh, rare to see you leave comment in GC. What you said probably true. In my opinion, there are things that can be discuss in public but there also things that SHOULD NOT be brought to public discussion.

Topic like Kinky SEX is a good example as in a topic that SHOULD NOT be brought into public discussion. Heck I even wonder is the TS there real female or just a shemale. If you wish to discuss this kind of topic PLEASE discuss it among your IRL friends at nearby cafes or Kopitiam and not in this cyber world where DENIAL OF ALL RULES probabilities exists .

For those monkeys who have too much spare time to post lame nonconstructive comment which do not helps, do yourself a favor go got get yourself a proper job and earn some money for yourself instead of wasting time here. It will do bring good not only to yourself but to society as well.

P.S: Btw I think Moderators and Admins should take consideration on moving all this SEX related topic to another sub-forum or Kopitiam and labeled it as above 18+ kind of tag on those topic. Bare in mind that there are still a lot of 未成年 (under age) forumers lurking around reading all this topics which may lead them to wrong direction in mental thinking.

namae_dake> There no point in ranting to those thoughtless/mindless baboons or whatsoever they are. Out of all the poll, I dare to say all of them fill with at least 70-90% non-logical comments. GC is no longer what it used to be. However, there are still some topic which actually help. You just need to know where to look for and decide whether that is relevant to your problem. Again, decision still lies on the eye of beholder. Good Reference Made Good Example. Simple as that.


The above quote is taken from the GC New rules thread. Look & Read at the BOLD Statements. To those male who pretend to be female, I pray that one day you learn your lesson. Be honest with your gender, there's always a line whereby human are forbidden to cross.


edit: Add additional quotes.

This post has been edited by Yukirin: Dec 21 2007, 04:23 PM

I agree with the TS in that the poll topics completely disgust me...and I would like to add that the poll starters always put some stupid unnecessary option that allows the pollers to completely avoid the question. If you want a real poll, put Yes, No, Depends...and not Don't Care.

But I do also see that the polls here are pretty much garbage and that 99% of the repliers are men. TS, I'm grateful that you've brought this up...but maybe we shouldn't let the polls get to us too much

me thinks sexually related topics are fine if people discuss it in mature manner.

however, as you can see the desperate males have already turned GC to a second and not-quite-as-bad Cupid's Corner.

you'll get stupid replies like almost everywhere here.

LYN is just my past-time medicine to keep me awake from my sleepy boring job.

Dont take internet too seriously

QFT (I'm a girl btw )

Sadly enough, though, a significant number of the most (well, this emoticon sums it up best --> ) posts come from either girls or very cleverly disguised shemales, based on their other posts in the forum. I don't think sexual discussion etc is bad either, but the sheer level of immaturity which is seen in such threads (and in many other non-sexual ones too, come to think of it)... I don't deny it's quite entertaining, though, the way soap operas with exceptionally dumb heroes and heroines are. Perhaps that's why I still come here when I've nbtd.

seem like almost nobody really know the real problem here, goldfries and the moderation team has been searching for a female mod for so long time ago, but nobody want to step up to the plate, but they keep blaming why this place had changed to desperate male section.

So TS before you start flaming males this and that, first thing first is evaluate yourself first, even though u think u are mature enough but u can't understand deep enough what, why and how people react in life, cheers

this is the internet so the poll must be true

i don't think TS is flaming males at all. in fact it's refreshing to finally see someone voicing out the ridiculous nature of some of the threads in this forum section.

while LYN has been a forum most frequent by male Internet users, the admins at LYN have graciously setup a corner for the ladies to hang out BUT unfortunately this noble allocation of corner didn't turn out as well as it should, thanks to desperate males.

it's alright if males know how to discuss and post constructive posts but unfortunately as what I've observed so far, most of them just lost their constructive capability when they're in Girl's Club.

anyway, our search for lady mods for GC has nothing to do with the place becoming a desperate male section. with or without mod, as long as users learn to behave and all, this place would be much more peaceful, like some forum sections of LYN.

Simple, humans are too stupid. They only believe and listen to the majority.
And the poll simply winrar becoz most males shemales say sex is a must, and those tail-following-dog will just follow and think its the right thing.

i don't understand, how to teach the users to behave in here ? even mods can't stop people from coming here but we can control people posting here, and i don't think this place will be naturaly converted back the way it was before by doing nothing

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Added on December 21, 2007, 2:17 pmeven i was tempted to post something ridiculous to be funny in here, but sometimes even i don't really know whether the TS was rather male or female,

This post has been edited by nickisthemost: Dec 21 2007, 02:17 PM

LOL. not like you can do anything, really. only way is someone whipping the whip like our ex-mods. sexy leh? *shipiaaakkk* spank'em!

Goldfries can do the spanking XDDDD We don't mind (as long as you are spanking us XD) Fell free to spanks the shemales XDDD

Just woke up and a pleasant surprise! Not really pleasant surprise,i reckon in forums like this,good folks will sure reply on such issues.

I-should-not-take-internet-seriously comment
Hah, yes i know a lot of people might think i'm over-reacted or something. I cannot deny since there's this shadow in my past and i'm very sensitive to such issues but it's not like i care what's going on in the internet.If i really do,i'm already handfull spamming over all the forums.What i notice here is,like some girls have just said in previous post,i'm over-reacted by the polls which are being spammed by desperate males(possibly).It's just amazing how these people are that free to spam,that's it.

Judging from whatFlizzardo says,i'm afraid that she's taking the polls seriously and atcually think that more than half of the women think sex is a must in relationship and that it's better to have sex without condom on.I kinda get the feeling that she's just merely saying,but just hope that she's not some disguised male.

Happy to hear that there's a lot of good response here,especially Goldfries,someone very well known in LYN and are supposed to be not quite involved in girl's club.Your word is very powerful,and thanks for supporting me,i'm so so happy haha. Okay,see,it' just that i appreciate all the males who are actually acting positive on this issue and are willing to discuss and make sure the image of every guy's a desperate cyber-sex -seeker will go away.Over exaggerated,i know.

And some girls here actually sums up what i say,thanks a lot,i guess without reading my 1st post you understand urself. And i think more girls to actually come up and say is somewhat helpful as they tell what the males think.So that they won't think by posting such comments will get them anywhere.

Nickthemost : Okay,i'll just be honest with you.You said i was flamming on guys and i'm not very happy because i really wasn't.See,i'm in love with Goldfries already .Something happened in my childhood,okay i don't wanna hear ppl saying i'm trying to get attention, and i get very sensitive on this issues.I didn't think i'm mature enough and that's why i wanted ppl to debate on this.And i'm 100% female,it'd be too good to be true if a male would actually stand up against desperate males.Why did you even say i have anything against males?Did you read my 1st post,like,all the words?
In short,i was just upset by those monkeys who's trying to corrupt the minds here,all sorts of ppl lurk around here and God knows 1 or 2 kids actually thought that it's normal for girls to have sex without his partner having condom on.So unless you are that monkey ,you are completely out of my radar.And i'm sure you are out,right?

Hmm... i think i forgot what i'm suppposed to say.And then ummm i guess,well,talking about sex is definitely okay,things should be a bit liberal over the net especially where are in Muslim country,sex is a taboo to be brought up openly in public.But Yukirin might has his very good reasons to stand up for his beliefs too(i'm actually quite surprised why a male like you are against on discussing such topics in internet...i'm just curious,since it's not a taboo at all over the net).In my opinion,it's okay to have serious sex talk but i realized the people here bring up meaningless topics.I'm sorry to say this,i see a lot of topics which i assumed are started by grade schooler,and they really need to brush up their English.I definitely have no place to say that,cause,haha,i went to chinese independent high school so mandarin is actually my primary language and there's still a need of improvement on my English.

Gotta go get my brunch first.

This post has been edited by namae_dake: Dec 21 2007, 02:55 PM

Dear TS,

I understand your concern in girls being influenced by these polls. When I first read it, my first impression was that whoever who was silly enough to base their decisions on these polls will probably do silly things anyway.

But then I thought about it again and you raise a good point. There are some young teens out there, new to relationships and what to expect and if the only thing they have to go about are these polls, they'll probably think that perhaps unprotected sex is the norm in relationships and although they may not like it, they think 'this is part and parcel of being in a relationship'.

Guys have needs yes. I for one know that. There's this belief that Love conquers all or something of that sort. Perhaps that is the case. I was with my ex for two years and did not have sex with her cause she had a bad experience with her previous one. I understood that and didn't pressure her. But did I feel frustrated? Yes of course I did and I told her. She said she couldn't do it and I understood. We broke up over other reasons but that's another story.

Despite saying this, I am still of the belief that girls should only have sex if they also want to and not cause it's 'expected' of them. I have many good female friends who get themselves into shitty relationships and sex lives cause they think sex is a chore meant to please the guy. As a result, they abhor sex and see it as a boring activity and never really get into it. I think that's quite a sad state which stems from the fact that they had sex first when they didn't want to.

I guess the key point I want to make to women out there is:

a) Be honest with your boyfriend and make sure he understands what you are comfortable with.

b) Do not give in and say 'guys have needs' and just have sex with him because of that. You'll find that in the long run you won't enjoy sex and sex is about sharing not just a 'chore'. I cared enough to abstain from it for a reasonably long time.

c) But at the same time do not be offended if your boyfriend asks if you're ready. All of us guys want it, but that doesn't mean they can't wait for a while till you're ready. In fact, if you deny them (especially for a long period of time) and they still treat you nicely, that's a good sign that they truly care about you. However guys have their needs, if there's really a difference in sexual needs, you need to take that into account if you are seeking a long term relationship.

d) Sometimes a couple's sexual needs are really different. Then it's time to evaluate where you think it would be a problem in the relationship. Remember that if you are considering getting married to this guy, this is the sort of sexual drive you have to put with and frankly after time, it's going to drive a guy nuts and increases the chance of they finding other avenues to meet their needs. Are you willing to meet these needs? Call me an arse or what not but simple truth is that guys can only think with their penis or brain. It was tough for me and although I didn't cheat on my gf, I had constant thoughts about having sex with other people when I didn't get it for 2 years. I denied it but it felt horrible that my mind was cheating on her and so I told her about it and she was mature enough to take it and understand my position. We still didn't do it after that but it helps to know that your partner understands and find other ways to make each other happy. nice foreplay is a good start. more huggies more attention to each other.

e) Don't be stupid about unprotected sex That's a really selfish thing for a guy to do just for his pleasure. The risks are enormous for just a guy's pleasure.

I hope this doesn't offend anyone. Just voicing my opinion on the matter. It may sound contradictory but what I'm saying in a nutshell is that guys should be able to wait for a while so don't be pressured into it but be aware that they do have needs and if you think that there will be a problem in libido you should address this from the start and be honest about it and find ways to work within the boundaries you are comfortable with.


Sex should be something to be enjoyed and shared, not something to be given as bait or a carrot to keep a guy happy.

This post has been edited by Reuben: Dec 21 2007, 03:01 PM

What is the point of this thread anyway?

And my personal experience, LYN rules are not perfect..
They allow stupid comments in some rather "serious" sex related thread and suspend me for 3days for posting a porn link in a rubbish-meant-for-joke-aka-retard thread.

don't make me feel horny dirty please. thank you.



ahh. from my perspective, this thread is a lot more valuable compared to many other threads here.

it's finally a discussion on Girl's Club itself. perhaps it's a thread that could lead to Girl's Club's improvement.

Very well said,you should highlight your first and second para.Probably girls don't have as much needs as the guys do,it's not like i don't understand it completely at all,it's all your in-built hormones you can't help it.But always remember,getting your gf's body is not your right,but it's only your privilege.Also,even in marital rape,the husband is subject to charges.

Hey umm... to answer that question of yours,i'd say to create awareness i guess?If you are thinking i'm naive that no one who care such little pointless thread i'm just gonna answer you again by saying at least i tried and will always do.I guess Mods couldn't just delete comments cause not only they are being bombarded by internet liberty issues ,no one would ever comment anymore. As that porn link of yours, i think it's very common that porn links are banned you see,even in overseas forum,so don't let that get you if you took that seriously.You should have posted rubbish comments on that meant-for-joke thread instead.


Thanks.

Nah, it was just for fun...luckily i was quite busy during that day
Anyway, i dont agree to pre-marital sex

I don't agree to premarital sex either. I think, and I mean I, that women who sleep with their men for fear of losing them to other women need to settle their self-esteem issues before going into a relationship.

fey, I think your work pressure is getting over you Have a coffee break will ya.



Frankly speaking, SEX related topic/talk/thread in forum ain't taboo but more like Dens of Hungry Wolf waiting for bunch of naive little Red Ridding Hood walking into their mouth. I seen enough to believe how true this facts can be. Whenever I walk out to the street, I always amazed how corrupted the teens' mind can be. As a matter of fact I even felt sorry for them. But then, when we related the root cause of those thinking, one word appear, internet.

Internet is a double edge sword. When you gain some benefits, you will also loss some as well. You learn a lot when browsing for info and reference. But, when bad reference was made use widely, teens' mind/thinking are corrupted.
What happen when they are corrupted ? Simple, human devil side began to overwhelm the angel side. Conclude, hurting other people feeling, being unconditionally rebellious, unreasonable reasoning, WORST CASE SCENARIO, CRIMES EVERY WHERE.




Not every single guys can think like you do. It's good to be honest to your other-half/soul mate but never ever to be inconsiderate on each other well being.

Seriously, I think you missed the point. Read the LYN Global Rule, any sexual related link are not to be linked anywhere in LYN. So getting a "vacation" from above is not a surprise. Again, since when INTERNET RULES are perfect ? Name me one. To me, internet is where every thing is possible, not limits, no boundary, only the "walls" that are your only obstacle that needed to overcome. Isn't it right ?


Edit: Changing all the L33t words to normal word. I've been scold by goldfries(pointed the post below) for writing too much L33t word Ok, I'll be a good boy and stop using L33t words.(Vaccine taken for destroying the L33t)

This post has been edited by Yukirin: Dec 21 2007, 04:24 PM

Hehe. we're at a time where

1. COCK refers the male genitalia instead of male chicken.
2. PUSSY refers to the female genitalia instead of a slang for a cat.
3. DICK refers the male genitalia instead of a name

amazing how twisted are minds these days.

and judging by how forummers posts, it's as if mentioning SEX was so terrible they had to write it as s3x or 53>< or something. even PENIS is quite often spelled as P3N15 or something.

this shows how "altered" are the minds of people these days. it's as if mentioning these things are wrong or taboo or what not.

EDITED : guys, if you need to mention PENIS during a discussion. just do it. if you think you're going to get banned or warned just for doing so, you need a shrink.

why? disguising the word won't help you. more important is the context on how it's used.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Dec 21 2007, 04:12 PM

I don't get it.

Why is sex such a big deal in Malaysia?

Even sex scene is censored in 300 but non of the violence was censored.

It really depicts that having sex is not OK compared to chopping people head off and stabbing people to death.

What a load of crap?

If its 18SX or 18PG, sex scene should not be censored.

If you wanna have sex, do it safely and please enjoy it. Wonder why girls here think that having sex is like the end of the world type of situation.

yeah. well thought of that long time ago.

kiss more than 2 seconds - censor! 18sx!

guns blazing, blood splashing, parang wielding - U . hahah. what a joke.

seriously, sex do less harm than violence.

The point why girl doesn't want it as bad as guys it is because they sexual desire is 20x times less than the guy's sexual desire.

Girls derived more pleasure from having sex than guys, this is a scientific fact and when they want sex, they want it really bad too.

Frankly, when people talking about sex here is as if they have no prior sex education at all, especially girls. Don't know why, I can have a more meaningful conversation with Aussie girls about sex than I can ever have with any girl in Malaysia.

Peace out.

You may be right bout that scientific evidence proven thingy there but not every girls enjoy sex that much,alot,but not every.A lot of cases are where guys seem to seek only free sex from the gf in that relationship.But of course ,a lot of couples enjoy it a lot too,given that they have healthy sex life.

What do you mean by lotsa girls here have no prior sex education? I don't normally post here cause a lot of topics started by the girls here are simply immature. And not only girls,same applies to the guys,i do prefer talking to Western males bout sex related issues rather than those from Asia.Asian guys always always boost about how they made their gf cum like 3598423590642390 times,they are self centered,really! And what is sick is that during the intercourse they love asking those questions and they have to know this,if the girl really loves ur skill they'll tell you. White people are often more liberal and because of that they are not so narrow minded ,yes they are horny but not desperate.

Actually i'm not quite what you are trying to point here.Would appreciate if you'd elaborate further.

Not necessarily true..
Pre-marital sex is worst than killing ppl...atleast that's wat i was taught

In my opinion, narrow minded girls should understand that the pleasure of sex is not just for the male but for the female too.

If a guy wants to have sex with his gf, that is normal and in fact should be the case. Instead of him running around with one night stand / flings while going out with his gf or he masturbate at home watching pron non stop.

Fact is, some of my girl friends here says that their bf have no desire to have sex with them. That's really something quite stupid to say.

Also I don't think girls end up giving in to sex. Sex is supposed to something good, fun and healthy for both party and the relationship. NOT A THING TO BE TRADE AROUND.

It shouldn't be the case whereby, you should do this or get me this so and so before we ever have sex.

you're talking morality or what?

if morality sense, pre-marital sex is fine for some but violence (cut, slash, harm) is not fine by all.......except some minority i guess.

bottom line is. pre-marital sex doesn't harm anyone. it's an activity between 2 individuals. violence on the other hand while being activity between 2 people, actually causes physical damage and may even result in death.

well anyway i'm not going to debate on sexual activity vs violence. let's stick to the thread at hand.

This is what I was ranting about in regards to Malaysia girls.

Good lord, aren't we supposed to be more open minded these days?

I wonder how we'll ever make to a first world country when we can't even satisfy our own sex life.

Man, as far as everybody is concern we are still in a stone age man, especially when it comes to sex.

I really duno what should we talk about...

Pre-marital sex to me, its forbidden. But for you its not.
Its based on alot of points or path or wats the correct terminology...

And with this rate in LYN, im sure alot of youngster will think sex is just anything but nothing precious.

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Added on December 21, 2007, 5:24 pmIt was only meant for married couple, as given and commanded by the Good Lord.

What's to open minded about that?
Rules are rules, and i learnt that for 3days vacation for posting crap in a crap thread.

Why worry about sex whilst there's damm lot of stuffs that one should be worrying about?
U wont die without sex. no?

This post has been edited by WaCKy-Angel: Dec 21 2007, 05:24 PM

ok. now you're judging me. FYI I'm against pre-marital sex myself. I'm just saying it still causes less harm than violence. get it?

btw this thread is gonna be filled with what we've talked about so far............

girl you miss my point entirely , to put it simple, to create awarness is much more simple to talk than doing something about it, you can post all you want in here but two or more days later people will start to forget what this thread is all about, just like Girl's Santury thread get tumble down by sex thread lol. the question is who is the one that need helps ? girl's club or desperate guys ?, i'll say desperate guys. if you don't understand what i'm saying just take it as i'm crapping, cheers

dude u din't have a gf before of course u'll say u don't support pre-marital sex,

Again i don't get your point here.I opened this thread is merely to rant about(okay i'm admitting i'm ranting now ,nth else better to do) how meaningless and misleading the poll results here is. You quite off the track here,no one is talking about how close-minded Malaysian girls are,and how hypocrite the girls are here,one side shouting guys are horny dogs and the other side wanting a steamy night so badly.We are here focusing on desperate males here, unless i'm the narrow-minded girl here you are referring to.Even that way,you are wrong about me.

Bout how Malaysian girls are so shallow about the whole sex thing here,i agree with you.I'm the type of girl who can even joke about this issue,and my guy friends discuss these issues with me as if i'm no girl,darn them!To me i think it's some normal stuff,but i just somehow can't open up such conversation to my female friends(especially the college folks,man...),and when i joke about all that they will all go "yerrrr...","omg....what are u saying?" ,"ughhh.....plz don't talk about it",you know ,to the extent that my eyes will fall out if they ever get married and pregnant

But you see, kianweic,we just deal with it,we are in oriental country and the ppl here are all....oriental. To think that u even spoke about this,that you felt nauseated by the fact that girls are such pretenders somewhat make you quite an oriental guy too. Cause if you are really that open enough ,u wouldn't care less and you'll lay back and think that it's their own damn choice anyway.And for me even starting up this thread,to think that i even care about it,makes me very much an oriental person too.

Sorry if i judged you,ur post just made it sound as if guys are the victim here because girls always whining bout their horny bfs but on the other hand begging for sex.It may be true, however,from a girl's perspective,i'm a girl myself and i know ppl i talk to them i listen to them even adults, very often the female party is the one who doesn't get the pleasure.

Some you-might-already-know-about-sexual-intercourse facts
I see that guys always have this misunderstanding here.They ought to think that every sex they had was pleasurable because if they reached climax and had fun they assume same applied to the female party too.If the female party said no,again the guys would think they are just shy or liars because they sense the vagina contracted alot of times and fluid flowing out.I'm telling you this, even if you put a toothbrush,carrot(whaa?),or thick pen would also have the same effect,as long as it's an object,just like how oysters produce pearls,God.... i've said it.

Long before i saw some monkeys saying,"having sex that time sure girls only shiok lar,just like when you dig your nose,your nose feel shiok and not the finger right? somemore we are guys have to be power enough to make u all happy" ,if ppl wondering why isn't that true i'm gonna give u an example ,with the nose portraying female sexual organ and the finger portraying male sexual organ. Unlike our nose and fingers,vagina are sensitive,soft and tender organ and when the guy gets a hard on,the penis get.....hard and long,and what's also different from the finger is that penis is definitely an organ with sense,it felt comfortable when it enters female's sexual organ or mouth.And so when the penis penetrates the vagina,very often if there's no win-win case ,the female feels pain.Whereas the guys normally face problems like no excitement,no spark or boredom.Think of this,thrust a pen inside or a big hard object inside your nose,do u feel nice? It's all because one sexual organ is inside the skin and another is outside the skin.

I'm only giving general facts,of course there's also at many times 2 happily couple enjoy their moments in heaven.And some females feel happy to have such contact with their partners because they love their man.And also some ppl are masochist fetish.

After writing so long...i think i'm directing this to kianweic.

Thanks in advance.

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Added on December 21, 2007, 6:52 pmNickisthemost : i'd appreciate if you examine my word closely.You know,my post has been so long solely to emphasize on things to avoid being told stupid by ppl . I did say i wanted to create awareness,knowing the fact that this is just a forum,with high chances that no girls even click in and read bout my shits,and i did say at least i'm just trying to do it,from the stupid and easiest way. You are telling me i wasn't aware of that,well,think again.
Neither do i try to help ppl...actually,trace it back to the topic title,clearly it's stated "something i feel like commenting on the polls held here"...so you can take it as i'm just having my PMS and wanna rant about all these stupid polls results,after all,i did typed there i'm just commenting what i feel like saying.Yes,nothing else better to do. Just in case you think i should play my small girls business at other place, i guess.....ummm......internet is free,is anything and i like being immature enough complaining bout desperate guys and get kicked out by them.

When you said desperate guys need help,i think i agree with you as it seems like i'm attacking those ppl and therefore hoping they can change(hell yeah in my dreams).Hmm,strange that i couldn't care bout the life and death of these girls really.To me,one should be able to protect themselves and just because the female society endure so much in silence,this is the out come and i'm sure as hell are not gonna side them or forever no one is gonna take the intiative.Instead,i attack .Sigh,i have no place to say such things,i never stood up for my mum when i was little.But since things are okay at present after i've grown big,i'll just let it be.No hard feelings here really,just hope you can understand me.

Talking bout creating awareness...in future i'd really wanna be part of that community if i have any chance.

And omg how can u say that to whacky angel? you are so gonna get it from him. It's not like u know him so he may has his reason.It may be he's a typical traditional man,erectile dysfunction,asexual or even gay,you don't know right?Whacky agnel i'm just simply saying,i don't know ur reasons as well,i know u won't take it to heart.

This post has been edited by namae_dake: Dec 21 2007, 07:01 PM

Dear namae_dake,

Doesn't mean that you are western thinking makes you ignore everything else in the world.

You are saying like what I just perpetuate. You are treating sex like a commodity. Of course they are people going to be unsatisfied with their sex life as you would already know, people aren't perfect. Also good sex life takes practice, you not gonna perform like a pronstar in your first day.
Since you want to treat sex as a commodity, next time get your bf to tie his testicle up to avoid producing any hormone. Only give him sex when he is good husband or boy or when you want it.

Hmm, that does sound familiar doesn't it. Sounds like facism. It's either your way or no way.

As for Whacky angel,

The lord say masturbation is a sin. Therefore it means no pron for you. No fantansing about girls ever and no wetdreams.

So stop downloading pron and stop masturbation altogether. Also same advice please use the method I just describe to namae_dake, tying up your testicle will definitely stop you from doing those stuff. Amen, brother!

If you guys/girls would excused me, I am gonna get some beer.

Why blame the girls? We're only molded by society. A society that considers a girl 'secondhand goods' if there are even RUMOURS of her loss of virginity driven by, say, seeing her and another guy alone in a room. A society that places disgustingly tight boundaries on what the proper woman is supposed to be -- can cook, sits like a lady, doesn't want sex, doesn't know anything about sex, etcetc.

And honestly, most of the desperate guys posting in sex threads here hardly seem more knowledgable than the girls about sex despite their obsessions about it.

Hmm that was quite harsh to a lady isn't it when i didn't even plan to start a gender war.Treating sex like a commodity?What makes you think so?I don't even know why you use the word commodity and what is perpetuate...i really meant it literally,isn't perpetuate a word for continuation? Please explain if you'd.

Okay i won't tie his testicle up,i'd rather castrate him if he tried to force himself on me.Honestly,i don't know what is that you are against me,it'd be nice if u'd tell me.I read ur post and i really don't know what triggered u to think i'm some...someone that i don't know how to describe based on ur post.A man-hater,a hypocrite i guess? You hate those so-called narrow-minded girls and i dislike the fact that some girls are over-reacted on this issue but this is not the focus of my thread here.You can open another thread to debate on that if you want(u'd probably say it's silly and that u rather have ur beer anyway).My intention is to RANT(look i've even admitted it) about how some desperate guys vote on "will sex crumble ur relatinoship" and "sex better with condom on or without" made me sick,and at the same time felt annoyed by those who created the poll because they ask questions like 12yr old and they've created a chance to let guys spam.

To sum up,i'd like you,kianweic,to tell me what you are having against me as it bothers me(i'll deal with it and i know it's life,sure,i'll move on).You counter-attacked me(Did i even attack u in the first place?) based on facts which i... <=yes,just like that.Yeah,i'm some really immature mommy's daughter. As for me...i don't think u didn't make ur point here,it's just that how u turn from focusing on the desperate geeks here to shout about how Malaysian girls should get more sex education.No single connection. It's like we are talking about how to stop child porn and you are saying how we should stop women from buying child porn.Totally unrelated,you see?

If you'd excuse me,i gotta grab my cookies.

from start i know what are trying to say, i just want you to think and understand a lil bit more why guys act this way, from start most guys have crazy sex drive, yes super crazy, sometimes when i wake in the morning i have this urge of like wanting to have sex, i really don't why i just feels that way at that time, the only thing to make myself not to think about it is to make myself really busy, i guess that's the only way to do so, but as u know not every guy in this world is a busy guy that's why they tend to expose thier weakness all over the place. but at least some desperate guys just post some horny stuff in here just to make themselve happier, rather than go out and rape someone rite ? just ignore them lar, cheers

whacky angel ? that guy has been saying sex all the time in Cupid Corner u still beleive him ?

This post has been edited by nickisthemost: Dec 21 2007, 09:46 PM

"To sum up,i'd like you,kianweic,to tell me what you are having against me as it bothers me(i'll deal with it and i know it's life,sure,i'll move on).You counter-attacked me(Did i even attack u in the first place?) based on facts which i... rclxub.gif <=yes,just like that.Yeah,i'm some really immature mommy's daughter. As for me...i don't think u didn't make ur point here,it's just that how u turn from focusing on the desperate geeks here to shout about how Malaysian girls should get more sex education."

Look, I was discussing sex as a topic subject since Reuben made a statement, would be nice to discuss it and see what other people thinks. We are all entitled to our own opinions. If you wanna treat sex like commodity, by all means do so, it's a free country.

I never said anything about guy forcing sex on a girl.

"All I ever said was sex is supposed to be agreeable from both party and both parties should try to enjoy it instead of finding faults of each other."

Never once I said you were stupid but you just insulted me back out of the blue.

Well, you really strike me as a control freak. It's either your way of thinking and everyone else is silly, stupid, immature and etc.

I don't really wanna throw insults at you because first of all I have better things to do, 2nd what's the point insulting you, it's not gonna make me happier or make me richer or make the world a better place to stay.

So there you go.

nickisthemost : having 3 elder brother,and being the only daughter,have been lurking around the net.I sometimes pity guys,it's like they have this desire and it's not like they can control it. I sleep in the morning during semester break and i guess just ranted out those shits during the midnight,yes ,i wouldn't even sacrifice my shopping just to post that.I spend most of the time at garage sales and job enlistment,so i don't know what kind of person whacky angel is...


And then umm... i really don't know what else to say anymore cause i basically rant rant rant it in my 1st post.I honestly don't know what kianweic have against me, he did say i insulted him,which i may have,in the previous post,and forgot based on what. But would really like him to just say it straight like how i did if i dislike someone,i'd tell her/him. If he thinks i'm just happy to attack males.....i guess i'll just let him be.Not at the same wavelength.And i feel sad right now to think that a guy somehow had argued with me,although over the net,it's a little bit hurt. I created this thread,to attack ,to complain(in a a way useless effort) bout those polls results which i suspect are spammed by desperates which i need ppl to debate solely on the poll results.If ever someone commented on how Malaysian girls are not so open bout sex related issues in comparison to western girls,although somehow off topic,i'd agree. I just don't feel like saying anything now cause i actually made someone to call me stupid and immature.Sick of explaining too.

Guess what,ppl will start telling me how i should get a life and don't take it seriously and that internet is free and stupid things happen.But i guess i have to admit i'm a bit sensitive to these things,especially when i actually created this thread with good intention.Anyway i guess i have to apologize to kianweic and admit that i'm stupid,immature and silly and make sure he won't dislike me.And i have to take back every word which against him.And wishing that he could like me in any possible way.I just feel bad to cross line with someone,especially guys.Can't think how this is gonna happen in real,forgetting bout formal related events.

Goldfries,any piece of advice to me?

Dear namae_dake,

Look it's OK to have different thoughts from everyone else. Also its great if you are expressing yourself because it's better let it out than forever bottling in your mind and slowly eating you from inside out.

Frankly, I have nothing against your ideas. Yes, it is oriental. It is 'the way' over here but for me, I won't conform with that idea because I just don't believe so. When I post some stuff / crap is usually straight out of my mind and I usually compare it to where I been before that is Australia.

Everybody is entitled to their own thoughts. We all discussed in a civilized manner by posting on a forum / thread. Everybody is different, if everybody agrees everything with everybody, then the whole world would be very boring.

Eventhough I might disagree with what you think, doesn't mean I will / have to force you to conform with my thoughts. I will just argue why I think that way.

Remember it's great to voice out what you are not happy with. The hardest part is listening to other thoughts which I, myself am not good at.

So all in all, take it as it goes. There are far more terrible things happening in the world than this conversation / thread / discussion. For eg. Genocide in Sudan, genocide in Rwanda, insurgents in Iraq and etc.

In addition, I wish everybody in this thread Merry Christmas, Happy Hari Raya Qurban and a Happy new year. (Pretty sure everyone is happy with this season since we all get public holidays)

Cheers,
Ken

best advice i can give at the moment is to "enjoy the discussion".

anyway both of you have your points.

I don't know I think this discussion has been depreciated

yes it has. what to do.

Cause in this section,people like to discuss topics like "Guy more like girlish girls,wny?! " , "guys always sometimes nice to gf but suddenly become cold,discuss!! " , " saw 1 girl msg in my bb's inbox,how to tell if she's cheating? " .What's more,it's not really a discussion,although mentioned need someone to debate,it's just merely me commenting bout the poll results.

Goldfries,how did this section used to be long ago? It's hardly even any grammar errors made right? Or those not-so-school-girl girls don't surf here. I think i came here like once in 6 months and opened this thread,before that opened 1 before. Okay i think i've just implied that i belong to those not-so-immature class. Haihz,no long teen in few more days.Gawd.

a lot of people say that they wanna learn good english but I don't think they really make the effort because they just slip back into their native language...like the Chinese would converse in Cantonese/Mandarin because they're better at it and wouldn't wanna speak in English cos they're bad at it - hence the bad grammar and stuff..

I'm personally a banana/twinkie, so my first language is English.
How sad huh? XD

I myself attended chinese school until college. Am speaking cantonese with me family,but not very perfect. I use only Manglish when i'm chatting with my friends,smsing or whatever text-written media but i always try to use a proper language in public or formal events,even in internet. It's also a way for me to practice. But it's quite "unpleasant " for my eyes to read those translated eng from mandarin...especially from the chinese girls(it looks too paria,too sungai wang to me,if u understand what i mean)i don't know why,i'm very sure myself it's their god damn freedom but i think i felt it's....um...too unprofessional,too cincai i guess?

Why should i care in the first place... man,i really must ditch that attitude!

This post has been edited by namae_dake: Dec 23 2007, 05:22 AM

hahaha I'm with you on that. I have to get rid of my attitude that tends to not bother trying to understand someone speaking/writing horrible english.

I lol'ed at this thread. From commenting the poll until comment other peoples opinion. Its no doubt this forum is dominate by males and of course alot of duplicate accounts. So don't take it so serious, cause will give u some unwanted stress that might kills off your apetite. No healthy.

Me love you long time.