Hi there,originially i wanted to post a reply in respect of a thread whether or not sex will crumble a couple's relationship and the thread starter included that question as a poll and the story was something like her female friend is having bf prob whereby her bf is treating her like total stranger when they are living under the same roof after how the girl had refused to have sex with the bf becaue the girl somehow never enjoyed it after a couple of intercourse(pain,not comfortable).

The "Is sex really important?" poll
What i wanna tell the thread starter was that,if you are a female,grown up enough to think properly,your very common sense will think that being together with the guy is no good choice.And i see that almost 90% of the females here would agree with me,as they understand that females go by emotion while males have needs,and they couldn't care less(which also the case here). I didn't read all the post,but some,and before reading the post i view the results of the poll that goes by the question : "Will sex crumbles your relationship". Amazingly,the votes for "YES" have 532 votes where as "NO" has only 199 votes. Funny isn't it ?? It's funny when i see there are majority of the male and females,especially,voicing out which obviously indicated the answer "NO".

My worry is this.Most of the "YES" votes here are from those creepy ,sick males which wanna manipulate women thoughts by winning on this poll. "No people will be that free just to that lar miss" ,if that's what you are telling me,i'd give u an example here : There's this couple here,in late teens,being together for 5 years,the guys is handsome, church boy,financially ok and smart and as for the girl,guys drool for her,and is also some no.1 girl in class.And this guy here is going overseas to further his studies and is saw him setting up a poll on his blog with the questions "do u believe in long distance relationship?" and the answer "No,u are naive" outnumbered "Yes love is everything" by as much as the poll above.To tell u secretly i voted "No" because i'm also quite an bad ass here but it's not like i want the guy(the guy love the girl too much) but i seriously don't do long distance(unless it's some real real real love that's it) but there's a little evil part of me wanting to see them break off.Okay,flame me. I assume that the majority of the forumers here are males,and it won't hurt them to just fulfill their evil thoughts with just one click ,just like what i've done to that guy's poll.Oh yeah,and thread starter,what i wanna say to you is,assuming if that bf of your friends felt upset because the gf made him look as if he's not good in bed or doesn't give in to your bf,u know urself well that he's a trash and please don't rely on that poll.Of course,it is also possible that you know the answer well enough but just seeking opinions from the forum-ers.

(Actually at this point some guys might be thinking i hold grudge on males and part of you might shouting gender equality.Okay i may act sound somewhat feminist sometimes but i know myself well that how i hate b****es the most.No hard feelings to u male forumers,i'm just talking about general facts.Rape and kill cases are often committed by guys and i know females sexual harass guys too but that's minor compare to the previous one and very rare they kill the male rape victim.Not trying to degrade females here,but i do admit very often in the society men always excel women as women are always not ambitious enough,not strong-willed enough.Just trying to be fair here.)

The "Condom on or without" poll

Seriously this poll wanna make me puke. In case you don't know what i'm talking about,go see for yourself here.I can't believe the number for "without" outnumbered " on" for more than 50% or so.There are still choices like still virgin or depends or even don't know.I believe we need to only focus on the answers " Yes" "No" or "Depends".There's already an option for depends,meaning u can have sex without condom if the girl is on pills,other safety measures are already taken and whatnot.But what's up with the answer " No" really! If you are a guy,i can say u an irresponsible horny man who just know how to have sex,okay,i'm not gonna use the word animal(animals have no brains and they know only how to multiply) here as i expect some people will see me as an old virgin,guy-hated b****, sexlife-less b**** or whatever names they are gonna call.I'm referring to those losers who don't have a plan in getting babies and solely for better pleasure without having thought bout the consequences. And for the females who voted "without" ,unless u have all the safety measures taken ,i'd say you are worse than the guy even if you willingly give in.I just don't know why people can not love their body.You might as well just return in to God then.

I'm sorry to say this again,it's again something against guys also.I somehow have the perception that most of the votes it's better not to have condom are from males.Again i'm surprised if these are the votes ALL coming from females.Unless they are retarded enough to wanna get pregnant out of sudden and go for abortion,women will make sure they won't be taken advantage.Also,if the girl wants real-meat-contact i'm sure she'll take other precaution measures as well.I read some of the post and alot of them saying "without condom not syiok and i bet the girl also want good sex" and i don't know what else to see them except monkeys(a species more close to human,thank me).


You see,the whole thing is i'm quite angered IF,i said "if", there are some lame horny losers that dying for a shoot try to come around this ladies' corner and think they can change their mindset by simply posting their lame comments and always have this every-girls-enjoy-sex-but-depends-on-who-the-guy-is stupid thought. Well,i'm not saying that every girls hate sex in fact i there are a lot of girls do enjoy it and most of them know how to take care of themselves.

I know myself well that the anger had made me created this thread and at the same time i also wish to warn those if there are any girls who are not wise enough to expose themselves to dangers.Sometimes,when you girls ask questions related to sex,be sure who you are asking to,always separate the genders,cause both classes give very different answers.Heck,what am i saying,i talk as if i'm some old virgin lecturing primary school students.At the same time,i appreciate the males there who actually voice out on those topics and actually gave comments that are fair and reasonable,i really think that you are all gentlemen.

All in all,no hard feelings here against anyone and why would i care so much if you may ask.My answer is that i hope the women here are more aware of their rights and safety because by this only then the males(referring to the bad ass males) would not think that they can do whatever they can do on us.This is very important especially in asia, women are still somehow being valued less in the society and i wish this could changed by simply women know when to say NO and by simply being able to counter all the males' bullies.

Phew,i sure have typed a lot.Thanks for reading.

Thank you so much for saying something ,goldfries, with people who has "powers" like you here saying something decent is really some significant good sign.Looks like i've just had a gentlemen here saying that the poll result aren't really that accurate as you may think.

Ermm just to add on something to my 1st post, i've been so long-winded in my 1st post because i crap a lot to avoid any war break out.And apparently i'm gonna do the same thing again. I read some post by the guys here saying sex is almost a must in a marriage and that marriage without sex is ur dream and that you should get a life. I do not disagree with this person who gave such comment,after all,normal marriages mean,intentions to create a family.And again,humans are results of evolution from animals and we have our needs,regardless males or females and thus healthy sex life should be practiced.

After me screaming about how males should respect women and how women should stop being silly and get cheated,it's still weird to think a relationship can keep going with proper sex life isn't it. Oh,i did see some posts saying many girls never enjoyed sex because there were no foreplay,the girl's u-know-what is not lubricated,the guy has no skills and whatnot...which,i know it may be correct but it seems to me the male's ego is still there.Seriously, i don't see a reason why a normal,good healthy guy should just treat her gf like a stranger just because probably the gf didn't tell the bf she wanted a foreplay, or the gf is not wet(or whatever u call it). Whatever it maybe,the bf shouldn't treat the gf like that because the gf has done wrong whatsoever,okay,maybe didn't talk to her bf bout why she's reluctant to have sex.My...

Again,thanks.

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Added on December 21, 2007, 3:52 amYou may wanna think again.I'm already in my late teens and more mature so i know what is right and wrong,on basic things.But you know,back when i was in early teens i was really naive and if i really refer to the poll results,i might have thought that Malaysians are so open to the extent that it normal that people don't play safe sex.Of course,girls with brains won't care less on the polls but i'm just bothered by the fact that those votes might really affect part of the people,even 1 or 2 is also a life!

Honestly,i never care what the polls say,never even to bother to vote especially the answer is so clear.I guess i'm here just to be some smart-alleck



You know i'm an anime fan and i always go to IRC for that purpose.Whenever i speak,the ppl there always,always and always assume i'm a guy and the ppl once said "there's no girl in internet" hah...

This post has been edited by namae_dake: Dec 21 2007, 03:52 AM

Just woke up and a pleasant surprise! Not really pleasant surprise,i reckon in forums like this,good folks will sure reply on such issues.

I-should-not-take-internet-seriously comment
Hah, yes i know a lot of people might think i'm over-reacted or something. I cannot deny since there's this shadow in my past and i'm very sensitive to such issues but it's not like i care what's going on in the internet.If i really do,i'm already handfull spamming over all the forums.What i notice here is,like some girls have just said in previous post,i'm over-reacted by the polls which are being spammed by desperate males(possibly).It's just amazing how these people are that free to spam,that's it.

Judging from whatFlizzardo says,i'm afraid that she's taking the polls seriously and atcually think that more than half of the women think sex is a must in relationship and that it's better to have sex without condom on.I kinda get the feeling that she's just merely saying,but just hope that she's not some disguised male.

Happy to hear that there's a lot of good response here,especially Goldfries,someone very well known in LYN and are supposed to be not quite involved in girl's club.Your word is very powerful,and thanks for supporting me,i'm so so happy haha. Okay,see,it' just that i appreciate all the males who are actually acting positive on this issue and are willing to discuss and make sure the image of every guy's a desperate cyber-sex -seeker will go away.Over exaggerated,i know.

And some girls here actually sums up what i say,thanks a lot,i guess without reading my 1st post you understand urself. And i think more girls to actually come up and say is somewhat helpful as they tell what the males think.So that they won't think by posting such comments will get them anywhere.

Nickthemost : Okay,i'll just be honest with you.You said i was flamming on guys and i'm not very happy because i really wasn't.See,i'm in love with Goldfries already .Something happened in my childhood,okay i don't wanna hear ppl saying i'm trying to get attention, and i get very sensitive on this issues.I didn't think i'm mature enough and that's why i wanted ppl to debate on this.And i'm 100% female,it'd be too good to be true if a male would actually stand up against desperate males.Why did you even say i have anything against males?Did you read my 1st post,like,all the words?
In short,i was just upset by those monkeys who's trying to corrupt the minds here,all sorts of ppl lurk around here and God knows 1 or 2 kids actually thought that it's normal for girls to have sex without his partner having condom on.So unless you are that monkey ,you are completely out of my radar.And i'm sure you are out,right?

Hmm... i think i forgot what i'm suppposed to say.And then ummm i guess,well,talking about sex is definitely okay,things should be a bit liberal over the net especially where are in Muslim country,sex is a taboo to be brought up openly in public.But Yukirin might has his very good reasons to stand up for his beliefs too(i'm actually quite surprised why a male like you are against on discussing such topics in internet...i'm just curious,since it's not a taboo at all over the net).In my opinion,it's okay to have serious sex talk but i realized the people here bring up meaningless topics.I'm sorry to say this,i see a lot of topics which i assumed are started by grade schooler,and they really need to brush up their English.I definitely have no place to say that,cause,haha,i went to chinese independent high school so mandarin is actually my primary language and there's still a need of improvement on my English.

Gotta go get my brunch first.

This post has been edited by namae_dake: Dec 21 2007, 02:55 PM

Very well said,you should highlight your first and second para.Probably girls don't have as much needs as the guys do,it's not like i don't understand it completely at all,it's all your in-built hormones you can't help it.But always remember,getting your gf's body is not your right,but it's only your privilege.Also,even in marital rape,the husband is subject to charges.

Hey umm... to answer that question of yours,i'd say to create awareness i guess?If you are thinking i'm naive that no one who care such little pointless thread i'm just gonna answer you again by saying at least i tried and will always do.I guess Mods couldn't just delete comments cause not only they are being bombarded by internet liberty issues ,no one would ever comment anymore. As that porn link of yours, i think it's very common that porn links are banned you see,even in overseas forum,so don't let that get you if you took that seriously.You should have posted rubbish comments on that meant-for-joke thread instead.


Thanks.

You may be right bout that scientific evidence proven thingy there but not every girls enjoy sex that much,alot,but not every.A lot of cases are where guys seem to seek only free sex from the gf in that relationship.But of course ,a lot of couples enjoy it a lot too,given that they have healthy sex life.

What do you mean by lotsa girls here have no prior sex education? I don't normally post here cause a lot of topics started by the girls here are simply immature. And not only girls,same applies to the guys,i do prefer talking to Western males bout sex related issues rather than those from Asia.Asian guys always always boost about how they made their gf cum like 3598423590642390 times,they are self centered,really! And what is sick is that during the intercourse they love asking those questions and they have to know this,if the girl really loves ur skill they'll tell you. White people are often more liberal and because of that they are not so narrow minded ,yes they are horny but not desperate.

Actually i'm not quite what you are trying to point here.Would appreciate if you'd elaborate further.

Again i don't get your point here.I opened this thread is merely to rant about(okay i'm admitting i'm ranting now ,nth else better to do) how meaningless and misleading the poll results here is. You quite off the track here,no one is talking about how close-minded Malaysian girls are,and how hypocrite the girls are here,one side shouting guys are horny dogs and the other side wanting a steamy night so badly.We are here focusing on desperate males here, unless i'm the narrow-minded girl here you are referring to.Even that way,you are wrong about me.

Bout how Malaysian girls are so shallow about the whole sex thing here,i agree with you.I'm the type of girl who can even joke about this issue,and my guy friends discuss these issues with me as if i'm no girl,darn them!To me i think it's some normal stuff,but i just somehow can't open up such conversation to my female friends(especially the college folks,man...),and when i joke about all that they will all go "yerrrr...","omg....what are u saying?" ,"ughhh.....plz don't talk about it",you know ,to the extent that my eyes will fall out if they ever get married and pregnant

But you see, kianweic,we just deal with it,we are in oriental country and the ppl here are all....oriental. To think that u even spoke about this,that you felt nauseated by the fact that girls are such pretenders somewhat make you quite an oriental guy too. Cause if you are really that open enough ,u wouldn't care less and you'll lay back and think that it's their own damn choice anyway.And for me even starting up this thread,to think that i even care about it,makes me very much an oriental person too.

Sorry if i judged you,ur post just made it sound as if guys are the victim here because girls always whining bout their horny bfs but on the other hand begging for sex.It may be true, however,from a girl's perspective,i'm a girl myself and i know ppl i talk to them i listen to them even adults, very often the female party is the one who doesn't get the pleasure.

Some you-might-already-know-about-sexual-intercourse facts
I see that guys always have this misunderstanding here.They ought to think that every sex they had was pleasurable because if they reached climax and had fun they assume same applied to the female party too.If the female party said no,again the guys would think they are just shy or liars because they sense the vagina contracted alot of times and fluid flowing out.I'm telling you this, even if you put a toothbrush,carrot(whaa?),or thick pen would also have the same effect,as long as it's an object,just like how oysters produce pearls,God.... i've said it.

Long before i saw some monkeys saying,"having sex that time sure girls only shiok lar,just like when you dig your nose,your nose feel shiok and not the finger right? somemore we are guys have to be power enough to make u all happy" ,if ppl wondering why isn't that true i'm gonna give u an example ,with the nose portraying female sexual organ and the finger portraying male sexual organ. Unlike our nose and fingers,vagina are sensitive,soft and tender organ and when the guy gets a hard on,the penis get.....hard and long,and what's also different from the finger is that penis is definitely an organ with sense,it felt comfortable when it enters female's sexual organ or mouth.And so when the penis penetrates the vagina,very often if there's no win-win case ,the female feels pain.Whereas the guys normally face problems like no excitement,no spark or boredom.Think of this,thrust a pen inside or a big hard object inside your nose,do u feel nice? It's all because one sexual organ is inside the skin and another is outside the skin.

I'm only giving general facts,of course there's also at many times 2 happily couple enjoy their moments in heaven.And some females feel happy to have such contact with their partners because they love their man.And also some ppl are masochist fetish.

After writing so long...i think i'm directing this to kianweic.

Thanks in advance.

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Added on December 21, 2007, 6:52 pmNickisthemost : i'd appreciate if you examine my word closely.You know,my post has been so long solely to emphasize on things to avoid being told stupid by ppl . I did say i wanted to create awareness,knowing the fact that this is just a forum,with high chances that no girls even click in and read bout my shits,and i did say at least i'm just trying to do it,from the stupid and easiest way. You are telling me i wasn't aware of that,well,think again.
Neither do i try to help ppl...actually,trace it back to the topic title,clearly it's stated "something i feel like commenting on the polls held here"...so you can take it as i'm just having my PMS and wanna rant about all these stupid polls results,after all,i did typed there i'm just commenting what i feel like saying.Yes,nothing else better to do. Just in case you think i should play my small girls business at other place, i guess.....ummm......internet is free,is anything and i like being immature enough complaining bout desperate guys and get kicked out by them.

When you said desperate guys need help,i think i agree with you as it seems like i'm attacking those ppl and therefore hoping they can change(hell yeah in my dreams).Hmm,strange that i couldn't care bout the life and death of these girls really.To me,one should be able to protect themselves and just because the female society endure so much in silence,this is the out come and i'm sure as hell are not gonna side them or forever no one is gonna take the intiative.Instead,i attack .Sigh,i have no place to say such things,i never stood up for my mum when i was little.But since things are okay at present after i've grown big,i'll just let it be.No hard feelings here really,just hope you can understand me.

Talking bout creating awareness...in future i'd really wanna be part of that community if i have any chance.

And omg how can u say that to whacky angel? you are so gonna get it from him. It's not like u know him so he may has his reason.It may be he's a typical traditional man,erectile dysfunction,asexual or even gay,you don't know right?Whacky agnel i'm just simply saying,i don't know ur reasons as well,i know u won't take it to heart.

This post has been edited by namae_dake: Dec 21 2007, 07:01 PM

Hmm that was quite harsh to a lady isn't it when i didn't even plan to start a gender war.Treating sex like a commodity?What makes you think so?I don't even know why you use the word commodity and what is perpetuate...i really meant it literally,isn't perpetuate a word for continuation? Please explain if you'd.

Okay i won't tie his testicle up,i'd rather castrate him if he tried to force himself on me.Honestly,i don't know what is that you are against me,it'd be nice if u'd tell me.I read ur post and i really don't know what triggered u to think i'm some...someone that i don't know how to describe based on ur post.A man-hater,a hypocrite i guess? You hate those so-called narrow-minded girls and i dislike the fact that some girls are over-reacted on this issue but this is not the focus of my thread here.You can open another thread to debate on that if you want(u'd probably say it's silly and that u rather have ur beer anyway).My intention is to RANT(look i've even admitted it) about how some desperate guys vote on "will sex crumble ur relatinoship" and "sex better with condom on or without" made me sick,and at the same time felt annoyed by those who created the poll because they ask questions like 12yr old and they've created a chance to let guys spam.

To sum up,i'd like you,kianweic,to tell me what you are having against me as it bothers me(i'll deal with it and i know it's life,sure,i'll move on).You counter-attacked me(Did i even attack u in the first place?) based on facts which i... <=yes,just like that.Yeah,i'm some really immature mommy's daughter. As for me...i don't think u didn't make ur point here,it's just that how u turn from focusing on the desperate geeks here to shout about how Malaysian girls should get more sex education.No single connection. It's like we are talking about how to stop child porn and you are saying how we should stop women from buying child porn.Totally unrelated,you see?

If you'd excuse me,i gotta grab my cookies.

nickisthemost : having 3 elder brother,and being the only daughter,have been lurking around the net.I sometimes pity guys,it's like they have this desire and it's not like they can control it. I sleep in the morning during semester break and i guess just ranted out those shits during the midnight,yes ,i wouldn't even sacrifice my shopping just to post that.I spend most of the time at garage sales and job enlistment,so i don't know what kind of person whacky angel is...


And then umm... i really don't know what else to say anymore cause i basically rant rant rant it in my 1st post.I honestly don't know what kianweic have against me, he did say i insulted him,which i may have,in the previous post,and forgot based on what. But would really like him to just say it straight like how i did if i dislike someone,i'd tell her/him. If he thinks i'm just happy to attack males.....i guess i'll just let him be.Not at the same wavelength.And i feel sad right now to think that a guy somehow had argued with me,although over the net,it's a little bit hurt. I created this thread,to attack ,to complain(in a a way useless effort) bout those polls results which i suspect are spammed by desperates which i need ppl to debate solely on the poll results.If ever someone commented on how Malaysian girls are not so open bout sex related issues in comparison to western girls,although somehow off topic,i'd agree. I just don't feel like saying anything now cause i actually made someone to call me stupid and immature.Sick of explaining too.

Guess what,ppl will start telling me how i should get a life and don't take it seriously and that internet is free and stupid things happen.But i guess i have to admit i'm a bit sensitive to these things,especially when i actually created this thread with good intention.Anyway i guess i have to apologize to kianweic and admit that i'm stupid,immature and silly and make sure he won't dislike me.And i have to take back every word which against him.And wishing that he could like me in any possible way.I just feel bad to cross line with someone,especially guys.Can't think how this is gonna happen in real,forgetting bout formal related events.

Goldfries,any piece of advice to me?

Cause in this section,people like to discuss topics like "Guy more like girlish girls,wny?! " , "guys always sometimes nice to gf but suddenly become cold,discuss!! " , " saw 1 girl msg in my bb's inbox,how to tell if she's cheating? " .What's more,it's not really a discussion,although mentioned need someone to debate,it's just merely me commenting bout the poll results.

Goldfries,how did this section used to be long ago? It's hardly even any grammar errors made right? Or those not-so-school-girl girls don't surf here. I think i came here like once in 6 months and opened this thread,before that opened 1 before. Okay i think i've just implied that i belong to those not-so-immature class. Haihz,no long teen in few more days.Gawd.

I myself attended chinese school until college. Am speaking cantonese with me family,but not very perfect. I use only Manglish when i'm chatting with my friends,smsing or whatever text-written media but i always try to use a proper language in public or formal events,even in internet. It's also a way for me to practice. But it's quite "unpleasant " for my eyes to read those translated eng from mandarin...especially from the chinese girls(it looks too paria,too sungai wang to me,if u understand what i mean)i don't know why,i'm very sure myself it's their god damn freedom but i think i felt it's....um...too unprofessional,too cincai i guess?

Why should i care in the first place... man,i really must ditch that attitude!

This post has been edited by namae_dake: Dec 23 2007, 05:22 AM