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Determine your C2D is overclockable or not, CPU right mark
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The theory is very simple, what you need is to download the CPU right mark... the lower value for Maximal req. Vcore mean the proc is more overclockable. OCer from lyn please share and see whether it is true or not.
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aiya.. just apply thermal paste on my e2160 & no thermal paste left for my e6600..
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from you results i think its true
my e6600 min : 1.162 max : 1.325 |
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sukhoi37: your q6600 temp ?
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QUOTE(gsan @ Dec 20 2007, 01:38 PM) The theory is very simple, what you need is to download the CPU right mark... the lower value for Maximal req. Vcore mean the proc is more overclockable. OCer from lyn please share and see whether it is true or not. your idle temp 14c? ![]() original source : http://forum.coolaler.com/showthread.php?t=164058 |
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@sHawTY
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QUOTE(gsan @ Dec 20 2007, 06:36 PM) @sHawTY Wait, now that you've asked, now only i realize my Q6600 G0 has the lowest "Req. Vcore" your proc highest can oc to how many? Anyway, for your question, i don't know man, i only oc my Q6600 G0 to 3.2GHz [400X8]. I'm a mild oc'er, not a hardcore oc'er. That's what i do since the my first C2D processor. I've had 3 e6600 & one e6420. before 1st. E6600 ES - [Sold] 2nd. E6600 OEM - [Sold] 3rd. E6600 Retail - [Sold] 4th. E6420 Retail - [Sold] 5th. Q6600 G0 OEM - [Using Now] I ran all of them at 400MHz [Bus Speed] X 8 [Multiplier] - [3.2GHz [Clockspeed] @ 1600MHz [Rated FSB]] This post has been edited by sHawTY: Dec 20 2007, 07:44 PM |
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 20 2007, 07:41 PM) Wait, now that you've asked, now only i realize my Q6600 G0 has the lowest "Req. Vcore" So many E66xx... Anyway, for your question, i don't know man, i only oc my Q6600 G0 to 3.2GHz [400X8]. I'm a mild oc'er, not a hardcore oc'er. That's what i do since the my first C2D processor. I've had 3 e6600 & one e6420. before 1st. E6600 ES - [Sold] 2nd. E6600 OEM - [Sold] 3rd. E6600 Retail - [Sold] 4th. E6420 Retail - [Sold] 5th. Q6600 G0 OEM - [Using Now] I ran all of them at 400MHz [Bus Speed] X 8 [Multiplier] - [3.2GHz [Clockspeed] @ 1600MHz [Rated FSB]] |
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QUOTE(IcEMoCHa @ Dec 20 2007, 08:46 PM) So many E66xx... ES: Engineering Samples - Originally for Intel Laboratory use.OEM: Original Equipment Manufacturer - Doesn't come with heatsink or any sorts of warranty from intel. Retail: Boxed With 3 Years Warranty - Processor's that you bought from the shops. |
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How did u get the ES?... And why did u change so many times?
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es can be brought...also can be brought from intel staff...but es is not 100% stable...sometimes u lucky u get good one..sometime not..and es have no warranty
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seriusly those VID could get from coretemp itself too
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I will test out the maximum speed i can go with my Q6600 G0 later once i got my Abit IX38 Quad GT.
@ Hyde`fK, buying the Abit IX38 Quad GT, is that a really good idea? What i'm trying to ask is, is that board a real performer? |
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How much you get for it? The board is not bad but just aware that the board won't boot if set to high vcore. Abit IP35-E does have that problem though. This post has been edited by Hyde`fK: Dec 21 2007, 02:52 AM |
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QUOTE(Hyde`fK @ Dec 21 2007, 02:50 AM) @sHawTY Well, i'm getting it from kvmcom.How much you get for it? The board is not bad but just aware that the board won't boot if set to high vcore. Abit IP35-E does have that problem though. He state in his topic the price is RM780. I PM'ed him for the availability and the best price. waiting for him to reply my PM. Too high vcore? I'm using Abit IP35-E right now by the way. Well, i'm not a hardcore oc'er anyway, i'm just looking forward for a board that can really stabilize the whole system with my Q6600 G0. I'm also looking for a board that has the third PCI-E X16 slot so that i can slot in another graphic card for my 2nd monitor so that the 2nd monitor won't burden the GC that i use for gaming. So is it a wise choice to upgrade from the IP35-E to IX38 Quad GT? |
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Vcore higher than 1.6v bios set iinm won't boot. tAmp0i tested it when aiming 4Ghz. I don't know for you but P35 is still very good. I would upgrade to 780i.
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i guess u do need 1.6 to get 4ghz for most quads...how abt d x38 dfi? i heard is quite good..seems like abit has problems too at x38 section...does abit resolve d problem with any bios update?
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That's not the case. Even if run at 3.5Ghz and with high vcore, won't boot either.
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I thought Quad GT still has the bios problems?...
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QUOTE(Hyde`fK @ Dec 21 2007, 09:35 AM) That's not the case. Even if run at 3.5Ghz and with high vcore, won't boot either. Oh wait, now that thing stops me from buying the board. Aaaa. What board should i go for now, i really really need a new board to replace mine, got really tired with this f*cked up IP35-E. |
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QUOTE(IcEMoCHa @ Dec 21 2007, 12:11 PM) Go Mars... Mars doesn't have the third PCI-e X16 slot.If it has, i would have it by my hands now. |
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"the lower value for Maximal req. Vcore mean the proc is more overclockable"...
Hmmm..Conroe and Kentfield vcore if compare to Merom....Merom the lowest Vcore...Does that mean merom proc can clock higher? |
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QUOTE(kinwai88 @ Dec 21 2007, 01:59 PM) Does that mean merom proc can clock higher? No.That's because laptop processors are made to use low vcores. Sometime it uses half of the vcore compared to desktop processors. That doesn't meant it will perform well in overclocking. |
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5 minutes ago, i raised FSB to 450MHz but the multiplier stays at 8, and guess what, the "Maximal Requested Vcore" still stay on 1.250V.
PS: 450MHz [Bus Speed] X 8 [Multiplier] = 3.6GHz [Clockspeed] @ 1800MHz [Rated FSB] Sadly, i forgot to take the screenshot. My system is not stable though, didn't play with the vcore hard enough to find either my system is stable or not. |
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 22 2007, 12:25 AM) 5 minutes ago, i raised FSB to 450MHz but the multiplier stays at 8, and guess what, the "Maximal Requested Vcore" still stay on 1.250V. I think the maximal req. vcore is still remain no matter what speed you are running. actually the theory is very simple, let say for E6750, default speed is 2.66GHz with maximal req. vcore is 1.250v only, so it still can go more higher as there is a distance to pump up the vcore, compare to other E6750 which the maximal req. vcore is more than 1.250v, eg 1.350vPS: 450MHz [Bus Speed] X 8 [Multiplier] = 3.6GHz [Clockspeed] @ 1800MHz [Rated FSB] Sadly, i forgot to take the screenshot. My system is not stable though, didn't play with the vcore hard enough to find either my system is stable or not. |
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QUOTE(gsan @ Dec 22 2007, 01:28 AM) I think the maximal req. vcore is still remain no matter what speed you are running. actually the theory is very simple, let say for E6750, default speed is 2.66GHz with maximal req. vcore is 1.250v only, so it still can go more higher as there is a distance to pump up the vcore, compare to other E6750 which the maximal req. vcore is more than 1.250v, eg 1.350v Does that mean i can go alot higher with my Q6600 G0? This post has been edited by sHawTY: Dec 22 2007, 05:19 AM |
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humang aii... such a low VID there...
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Dec 23 2007, 12:00 AM) humang aii... such a low VID there... Low?Beat this: A Q6600 G0 with a VID of 1.2000V ![]() |
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Dec 23 2007, 12:13 AM) btw, izzit stable enough? Bang, VID tu tak berubah la.Mmg datang original dgn processor. Ko try la ubah ubah FSB, ko tgk sendiri yang VID tu takkan berubah langsung. |
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QUOTE(gsan @ Dec 23 2007, 02:34 AM) come on bro, oc it kaw kaw la Patience man, waiting for my new motherboard.I can't go anywhere with this IP35-E. Still deciding on which motherboard to buy. So many choices. 1. Abit IX38 Quad GT 2. Asus Maximus Formula SE 3. Abit IN9 32X Max WiFi <-- The weakest in OC'ing. Sheesh, Why do i include this board in the list? Probably because it has what i need, the third PCI-E Slot. 4. DFI Lanparty DK P35 <-- Yeah, This one is the best in oc'ing, but the bad part? Getting it is so hard! 5. EVGA 680i SLi Rev. A1 <-- The most expensive! |
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 23 2007, 04:45 AM) Patience man, waiting for my new motherboard. dunno the price for EVGA 680i but the price for Maximus Formula SE is around RM1100, so I wonder why you will put DK P35 in your choice list? you should go for DFI LP UT/LT X38 I can't go anywhere with this IP35-E. Still deciding on which motherboard to buy. So many choices. 1. Abit IX38 Quad GT 2. Asus Maximus Formula SE 3. Abit IN9 32X Max WiFi <-- The weakest in OC'ing. Sheesh, Why do i include this board in the list? Probably because it has what i need, the third PCI-E Slot. 4. DFI Lanparty DK P35 <-- Yeah, This one is the best in oc'ing, but the bad part? Getting it is so hard! 5. EVGA 680i SLi Rev. A1 <-- The most expensive! |
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QUOTE(gsan @ Dec 23 2007, 10:04 AM) dunno the price for EVGA 680i but the price for Maximus Formula SE is around RM1100, so I wonder why you will put DK P35 in your choice list? you should go for DFI LP UT/LT X38 Because i can get Maximus Formula SE at much much lower price than the price you state earlier? |
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Some update with my newly bought EVGA 680i SLi Rev. A1. It seems that the Maximal Req. Vcore will stay the same even if you change the board.
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@Izwan898 & skymyxe
both of your proc are E6750 ? btw, I found that the VID of my friend's E6550 is 1.3125v |
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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Jan 9 2008, 05:22 PM) should be more overclockable compare to other 1.35v E6550. QUOTE(NightRaven @ Jan 9 2008, 05:42 PM) it is not the current vcore of your proc |
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I actually don't think the VID has anything to do with overclockability overally. It only means there's a higher chance of the processor being able to clock higher with less voltage as it started off to be stable at the same speed across the same processors with less voltage.
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QUOTE(GRexer @ Jan 9 2008, 07:36 PM) I actually don't think the VID has anything to do with overclockability overally. It only means there's a higher chance of the processor being able to clock higher with less voltage as it started off to be stable at the same speed across the same processors with less voltage. Agree with u bro GRexer...but why with the different VID?Different batch or what? |
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I have 1 1.3v(Bios default and lowest) E6550.Get it up to 420fsb on intel capalak G33,22hrs OCCT stable.Now going into other people IP35E,see can go 460(Stock cooler,KVR Hynix pair) stable or not
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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Jan 9 2008, 09:40 PM) It's most probably from different batch as it comes from different wafer, the only thing VID shows is that your processor can be ran stablely at stock speed at a lower voltage, that's all, not really a guaranteed better overclocking chip, it might not like high voltages, or maybe need high voltage to run at a higher speed(which might be why it's binned to be a lower speed processor instead also) |
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Jan 14 2008, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(GRexer @ Jan 10 2008, 11:30 AM) It's most probably from different batch as it comes from different wafer, the only thing VID shows is that your processor can be ran stablely at stock speed at a lower voltage, that's all, not really a guaranteed better overclocking chip, it might not like high voltages, or maybe need high voltage to run at a higher speed(which might be why it's binned to be a lower speed processor instead also) @bolded partyeah, i think you just maybe right. because u see my e2140 is at 1.325v, but then it can stably oced to 3.4ghz with 1.45v where as some e2140 with a vid of 1.25v like a friend of mines, can barely do even 3ghz with 1.5v This post has been edited by bryanyeo87: Jan 14 2008, 02:57 PM |
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Jan 15 2008, 12:39 AM
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This is my Screenshot...
Any comments?? Also, i'm using shitty INTEL HSF Stock... [attachmentid=379599] |
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Jan 15 2008, 12:59 AM
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damn nice... 1.2375 VID
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Jan 15 2008, 01:31 AM
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Nice...low vcore but don't say shitty Intel Stock HSF...makes me sad coz I'm using it rite now too...haha
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Jan 15 2008, 08:08 AM
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i wonder can intel cure 2 duo T7300 clockable??? is a lappy processor though
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Jan 15 2008, 05:41 PM
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Jan 20 2008, 12:24 PM
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Jan 20 2008, 12:27 PM
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Jan 20 2008, 12:29 PM
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the VID seems nothing to do with ocbility.
i've seen someone with lower VID than mine but still cant oc much. |
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Jan 20 2008, 04:10 PM
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Nice E6750 you got there.
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Jan 21 2008, 07:53 AM
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Jan 21 2008, 08:13 AM
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@knight
nice one, indeed @sukhoi37 from what i see is, it's not about highly overclocking thingy (it is though...) but, it's about how our processor need such voltage @ certain speed... for example, it's better right 3.6GHz @1.3000VCore than 3.6GHz @1.4500VCore?, say the Maximal VID is 1.4500, and in order to run 3.6GHz stable, we need to pump @1.5VCore (for example), i mean... it'll more lovely if got a processor with Maximal VID @1.2750 - you get what i mean? anyway, just my simple theory... me myself could be wrong though... |
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Jan 21 2008, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 21 2008, 08:13 AM) @knight but the problem is that i've seen someone with lower VID but needs higher vcore to achieve 3.6ghz.nice one, indeed @sukhoi37 from what i see is, it's not about highly overclocking thingy (it is though...) but, it's about how our processor need such voltage @ certain speed... for example, it's better right 3.6GHz @1.3000VCore than 3.6GHz @1.4500VCore?, say the Maximal VID is 1.4500, and in order to run 3.6GHz stable, we need to pump @1.5VCore (for example), i mean... it'll more lovely if got a processor with Maximal VID @1.2750 - you get what i mean? anyway, just my simple theory... me myself could be wrong though... he's using identical mobo (IP35-Pro) with me. |
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Jan 21 2008, 10:05 PM
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Jan 21 2008, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jan 21 2008, 11:31 AM) but the problem is that i've seen someone with lower VID but needs higher vcore to achieve 3.6ghz. he's using identical mobo (IP35-Pro) with me. QUOTE(convicted_knight @ Jan 21 2008, 10:05 PM) @gsan, Whats the diffrent between orthos and prime..? its look the same to me.. 3.7ghz overnite orthosed... AFAIK, SP2004 would detect as maximum multiplier even though you already use lower multiplier |
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Jan 21 2008, 11:13 PM
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sorry.. aiyo.. kat orthoz tu kan ader tulis 3704mhz... 3.7ghz kan...?
Q&A: 1. there is a beta ver. for multicore... it is good? 2. izzit normal to have difrent vcore during idle n during load..? ie: my 3.7ghz screeny shows 1.392v but during idle 1.44v (1.48125v in bios) |
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Jan 21 2008, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(convicted_knight @ Jan 21 2008, 11:13 PM) sorry.. aiyo.. kat orthoz tu kan ader tulis 3704mhz... 3.7ghz kan...? 1. ??? not sure...Q&A: 1. there is a beta ver. for multicore... it is good? 2. izzit normal to have difrent vcore during idle n during load..? ie: my 3.7ghz screeny shows 1.392v but during idle 1.44v (1.48125v in bios) 2. that's what we called vdrop |
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Jan 22 2008, 12:29 AM
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Jan 22 2008, 12:37 AM
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Jan 22 2008, 12:45 AM
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Jan 25 2008, 06:26 PM
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Whats the maximum overclock that the e6750 can manage ? Have anyone seen the worst e6750 batch and what was the result ?
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Jan 26 2008, 12:27 AM
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mine can clock up to 3.8ghz but not yet stable..
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Jan 26 2008, 01:45 AM
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Jan 26 2008, 12:54 PM
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Jan 28 2008, 08:14 PM
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Jan 28 2008, 09:58 PM
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Jan 29 2008, 06:43 PM
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Feb 1 2008, 01:14 PM
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nice software...
will post mine asap... |
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Feb 2 2008, 07:24 PM
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Feb 2 2008, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(colabear98 @ Jan 26 2008, 01:45 AM) I'm still waiting for mine.. hope that i can get my e6750 and test it later today. I hope the new Asus P5N-D is a good board and can clock. Why get P5N-D?All SLI board clock like shit with a few exception.And down the road better GPU will come out so don't even bother to deal with SLI. |
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