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Technical LCD TV/Display Discussion Thread, technical discussion on LCD TV/Monitor

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post Jul 11 2009, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(yujin86 @ Jul 11 2009, 01:20 PM)
hey guys wanna ask u all
my budget is only rm400 so i think only can go for Acer P205H which is not full hd. but 1600x900. so how about the picture quality for tis lcd? cos it is scaling down from 1080p or up from 720p. is it still ok?
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The LCD doesn't have 16:9 zoom in so the image on screen will be stretched to 16:10 making many games look distorted.
Not a good deal. I suggest you save up another RM250+ for an Acer H233H.
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post Jul 12 2009, 11:35 AM

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Eh? Was I seeing things? I thought I read 1680x1050! lulz!! doh.gif

My bad, it is 16:9.
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post Jul 14 2009, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(wan_d7 @ Jul 13 2009, 11:19 PM)
Acer H233H
Dell S2409
ViewSonic VX2233WM
benQ E2200HD

Just need an honest advice to chose between this 4 product in term of price,performance, and quality.

Not sure bout their price though.
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Acer H233H
Best of the bunch because of it's price. If you have read the past few pages, you'll know why it performs so well.

Dell S2409W
Used to be the choice for everyone, but because it is one of the earlier models that went into the 16:9 Full HD monitor market, there are quirks all around. Hardware revisions has been available for this monitor, but still doesn't fix most of its problems.

Viewsonic VX2233WM
While it has the best color range IMO among all 4, the price of this monitor really pulls me away from it.

BenQ E2200HD
Getting increasingly hard to find and very expensive as well for a 21.5 incher. Performs well, but lack of input button spoils the deal.

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post Jul 20 2009, 08:04 PM

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I always rate refresh rate as nothing other than market-gimmicks, also something more subjective to the person looking at the screen. 100hz, 120hz, 200hz, all look stupid to me. Makes movement on the screen really 'fake'.

So I suggest you take a look and see if your eyes like higher refresh rates or not. I'd personally always opt for lower response times.
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Yea and worst is most PS3 games are v-sync enabled anyway.
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post Jul 22 2009, 11:36 PM

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Viewnet selling it at RM650 now.
Pretty much the lowest you can get retail. Unless you bulk.
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post Jul 23 2009, 10:50 PM

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Harga for H233H won't turun much if at all anymore actually.
The new models will be coming in to replace the H233H in a couple of months time. So if you still want to get it, next week's PC fair is as good as a chance you'll get.

Acer has slowed production for H233H already.
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post Jul 25 2009, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(Cristiano-Ronaldo-7 @ Jul 25 2009, 03:54 PM)
dont get what you mean by night and day?  just want something that has good frame rates for gaming. dont really need extreme high end ones.

was wanting some suggestions actually.
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Unless you sit 3 feet away from the TV (on a 32 incher), you aren't going to see much of a difference which also means it isn't night and day. And it'd already be stupid if you are sitting 3 feet away from your TV anyways. Furthermore, majority and I mean above 98% of PS3 games aren't even in native 1920x1080 resolution anyways.

Unless you plan on watching Blu-Ray movies then it is an all different story.

Frame rates has got nothing to do with TV, but within the game itself.
Give yourself a budget of RM1.7k or so and get a decent SHARP LCD TV. Go look at some display models first before buying. After all, what looks lousy in our eyes doesn't mean it'll look bad in your eyes.
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post Jul 29 2009, 03:33 PM

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Depends on which model.
Most of their low-end and mainstream models are using S-IPS/IPS Alpha.
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post Aug 1 2009, 04:20 PM

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AOC 2432PW blows nut when it comes to text readibility, scaling and fails rather miserably on grayscale tests. Stay away.
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post Aug 1 2009, 11:15 PM

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Why is it out from your list?
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post Aug 1 2009, 11:24 PM

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I guess your back is facing your window then.
The 2343BWX is an okay alternative. But doesn't come with a HDMI input. The color accuracy is just bare average, black levels are acceptable though.
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post Aug 1 2009, 11:34 PM

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The LG isn't worth the price.
Its only a 22-inch and it is already nearly as expensive as the other 24-inchers. Colors are average, but it has a rather nasty input lag from a non-dedicated source (which in this case, consoles).

Honestly, the H233h reflection isn't a big deal since you are placing in the middle of your room is it not? Your room lights getting in the way?
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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Aug 1 2009, 11:37 PM)
Nope. There's 2 light. 1 at the left and 1 at the right. I seldom power on the the light of the right side of the room.
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In that case get the matte screen version:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1106567&hl=acer
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post Aug 2 2009, 02:51 PM

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HDMI version of the x233H is available in many places in Malaysia actually.
The thing is, you didn't ask?

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QUOTE(300078 @ Aug 4 2009, 09:46 AM)
U press the button for dunno how many sec (7-10sec i assume) when u hear the beep sound it has reset the resolution to 480p so any TV can view it. All u need to do then is to set the resolution to the one u want.
Back to my question earlier about the Plasma. If plasma got ghosting problem, does it mean that i need to go with LCD?
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Burn-in issues are the thing of the past.
You can turn on bloomberg for 24 hours now on a plasma and the burn-in of the stock-market ticker wouldn't really be there. Even if it is, you just need to turn on a white screen image for a couple of minutes.

It depends on your needs. Plasma TVs still surpasses LCDs in contrast ratio and black levels.
Great for movies, great for games too. But the power consumption of a plasma is stupid.... definitely not earth-saving.
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post Aug 4 2009, 09:33 PM

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Yea but the thing is, Plasma TVs at the range of 2.5k-3k still offers better black levels than on competing LCD models at the same price range too.

If theres no budget included, yes... LED LCD TVs are the way to go. Or if you have the room and want the absolute best, nothing beats projection.
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Perhaps a subjective question, but I do think that 32" does look better than the 37" Aquos. Though the power consumption really is rather annoying....
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post Aug 5 2009, 09:22 PM

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Haha yes thats very right.
32" don't cut it for a living room by most standards today.

LCDs has generally a longer life span than Plasmas.
Thats very true indeed.

But theres a twist to this.... when an LCD light-bulb (I'm talking about non-LED LCDs here) goes dead, and once you replace it with a new one, you'll never get the same brightness and contrast you once had. For plasma, you'd still get what you once had and infact as good as it is when you first got the TV. Thats the only twist here.

Although now a days, after 5-8 years watching on the same LCD TV... people would change to an entirely new one anyways.
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QUOTE(azxel @ Aug 6 2009, 05:18 PM)
can't lah.. broke dy.. just bought a 32" panasonic for less than RM1300... wait la.. hehe brows.gif later only upgrade!

talking about plasma, I do see that Plasma offers better skin tones but LCD color is kinda bright in a sense
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Contrast and color gamut.
Lower-end LCDs cannot display the contrast and color gamut of a low-end plasma even.

Do know that the concept origin of plasma technology came no other place than... CRT.

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