Hi,

I am thinking of getting a new notebook and is seriously considering the powerbook.

My question is that whether the asking price of >rm9k worth it for a notebook. Heard that it can run dual OS which is why I am seriously considering it. How stable is it coz running Leopard and Vista together is really cool and will help me a lot. Can it run all the windows program smoothly as in a PC?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers

I think you meant the Macbook Pro....no more powerbook in apple's line of notebooks...

@joey70i,
The >RM9k MacBook Pro is quite high end. Do u need such high end specs?

If ur looking to run your programs on a Windows platform, Y bother with OSX? U should ask urself what u really need.

its stable alright , and y wud u 1 to buy a mac to run windows =X

btw, you still need windows. at least for some of the applications.

Hmm, why you need a mid-range mbp? go for the low end, Rm7499 version. mid-range version is just got higher vram (graphic card ram) and bigger hdd space

@allvin,
Huh? MBP considered low end ah?!

i think he meant low end of the MBP range.

Thanks.....yes I still need to run some windows prog from time to time...

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Added on December 19, 2007, 3:12 pmSince I sometimes do graphic stuff and was considering the macbook pro and since now can run dual os so much the better......but can it run all the windows prog?

This post has been edited by joey70i: Dec 19 2007, 03:12 PM

It should run all the programs as long as you boot to Vista.

Vista runs faster on Mac, no?

I read some reviews that Vista is fastest on the Macbook Pro.

Yes i also read that somewhere in the net but not sure if its true

PC World said that if I'm not mistaken

yeah PC World said that

yeah, I even linked to it here.

This post has been edited by xaw5126: Dec 19 2007, 04:31 PM

my fren runs his vista ultimate on a normal macbook and it is dam fast ..

i mean low end mbp la. high end mbp is 17" punya. Btw, it is too huge. Handle 17" before. Not suit me

This post has been edited by allvin: Dec 19 2007, 04:50 PM

The 17' is too big and costs a bomb.....so still not sure which 15' to get.

If you have the cash, nothing wrong with the higher end MBP. But it would come to a waste if you don't need the extra power...

well, you just ask yourself this simple question.
"Do you play games (those high end games )? or Do you need those extra vram?"

If you don't, then just choose the lower end version. Save few thousand and use few hundred to max up the ram

This post has been edited by allvin: Dec 19 2007, 05:43 PM

few hundred? I'd say less than 300 to max out the ram, unless you are going for Apple rams... lol

what wrong with few hundred? rm300 also can be said as few hundred mar.

nah....just making a statement outta it.

Do graphic stuff such as 3D? If it is a yes, then you have made the right choice. If you do heavy CGI, I suggest the mid-range or higher end ones. Depends on your budget. If it is not-so-heavy CGI, the low end one is more than enough already.

About the OS, it is like you are having Vista on the Macbook Pro. It means you can treat it like a PC thus it can run all of the Windows program. Afterall, really want Vista? Why not XP?

Afterall, if you want to run Windows and Mac OS X at the same time, you need a virtualization software such as Desktop Parellels or VMware Fusion. The Boot Camp is mean you can use one OS (neither Windows or Mac) at the same time, not multiple unless you are running Mac OS X with virtualization software.

Ask urself what ur gonna be using the notebook for. RM9k for a notebook is not a small investment.

i wonder Mac can support lightwave 9?

yea.. here you go --> http://www.newtek.com/news/releases/08-01-06f.html

Btw, it got both version (windows and mac) for quite a long time lo. The 3D application only for windows is 3Ds Max, and interior design application which is autocad. You still have to use windows for those applications

That's another conderation since I do play games and its one of the reason why I'm goin for MBP as the graphic card is quite good. I have got my console for games most of the time, its more towards when I am travelling.

I dont do heavy CGI but use mostly stuff like Vector Works (ie drawing prog).

hmmm, macbook pro looks ugly....

@rx330,
We are comparing specs and functionality, not looks! And what's wrong with the MBP?! *getting defensive* I have no problems with mine

@joey70i,
If ur getting it for the purpose of travelling, u should ask urself if u need a 15" screen. The difference in weight may not seem to be much but in the long term, it's quite a hassle to be lugging something this heavy out. It's worst for the 17" - not advisable.

Well, if you serious in gaming, then you can choose the mid-range mbp. Btw, when in gaming, then you have to use windows (xp or vista, either way will do)

For me, it is the 17" punya. Really fugly man. It seems like the keyboard looks too tiny in 17" mbp

@allvin,
I wouldn't want to be carrying a 17" notebook ! The weight's crazy !! I'm oredi having problems with my 15" *grins*

yeah.. one thing im considering to switch to mac notbook is the weight , my current notebook is abt 1kg +

like allvin said, the 17" is freaking fugly, the 15" doesnt fare tat well either... normal mb looks better , but the specs... and it doesnt free xbox 360!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As for size, not really matter but the 17' is really a bit too big coz my current laptop is 15' and as for weight, i thing my current one is heavier.

I am not into serious shooter gaming kind but more of the Warcraft type gaming.

Get the mid-range MBP like what others said.

By the way, I love the 17". It is just me.

Yup, i am more leaning towards the mid range MBP.....

I am totally against the idea of getting either a PC or a Mac for gaming. Getting a PC to play games is expensive, getting a Mac to play games is even MORE expensive.

Save some money to get a MacBook, use the extra money to buy a console. RM 1500 xbox360 or Wii to play "Try-before-you-buy" games, cost you no more than RM 8.

Purely my 2 cents worth.

I agree with that. But sometimes games for PC/Mac such as Warcraft III cannot be played on the console such as PS3, Xbox and etc.

aiks, i thought you MB only. power la you sista!

anyway i bought MB instead of MBP. cost much lesser and also my usage doesn't warrant an MBP.

Do you mean that 9k mbp? If you only want to play warcraft 3 only, just get macbook la. It is more than enuf. Seriously, even Pentium3 can play warcraft3. If you not into those FPS games, then just get the low end mbp, Rm7499. Save few thousand and use like less than "rm300" to max the ram till 4Gb. You really don't need the extra VRAM if you are not into serious gaming.

I always thought the MBPs are light due to its aluminum casing. After comparing my MB and my friend's MBP, the weight of both doesn't differ much.

@goldfries,
Me been using the MBP for almost 11 months oredi *knock ur head* And like u said, if ur usage doesn't warrant an MBP then no point wasting the $

@lilredridinghood,
There's a 0.6kg difference if I'm not mistaken. Between 1.8-1.9kg for the MB and 2.5kg for MBP - it does make a difference actually! *grins* I use to carry a 1.7kg 12.1" Fujitsu, and now i find the MBP a little heavy but I knew about the weight before I bought it cause i wanted a bigger screen *grins*

Ah well.. nothing's perfect right?

it's better than my compaq, about 3kg for a 15" but still using it....cannot tahan the weight, which is why the mac book.

no offense, gal.

MB weight is more than 2kg (including battery of cos) and it is almost the same weight as MBP (15" punya). I own one MB and it is darn heavy i would say for 13.3" laptop.

To be more specific, I went to apple site.

Weight: 5.0 pounds (2.27 kg) - MB
Weight: 5.4 pounds (2.45 kg) - MBP (15")
Weight: 6.8 pounds (3.08 kg) - MBP (17")

Hell yeah for the 17". and fugly looks too, especially the keyboard "thingy"

wonder wen will mb or mbp change its design?

i think probably only mb la. From Plastic change to Aluminum like mbp

i heard that an ultraportable mbp is coming out soon..

based on iBook... which design came out in May 2001, and the MacBook which replaced it [b]five whole years[ later... i guess you guys have to wait until 2011 till the new design comes out

sigh.... so long ar?
i reallyneed one unit next year

I heard the MBP has been updated recently, donno what has been updated....really

an even uglier keyboard?

update quite long time ago lo..

@allvin,
My bad for not checking proper - i compared the MBP to a Fujitsu S series @ <1.8kg for the smaller screen. Didn't compare it with the MB - thanks for the clarification.

@xaw5126,
Good !! At least I know my MBP has a long enough life span. Will probably be time to change notebooks by then I wonder if I'll wait till 2011!! *grins*

lucky u tinkerbel

@rx330,
Huh?! Lucky Me?

if u r not rushing to own one of this...then wait for the penryn processor installed into MBP...probably soon...who knows?

Just ask yourself if you would be gutted if a new MBP comes out next month. It is as simple as that. If you think that you already got an awesome machine and can't be bother if there is a new one coming. Go ahead, by all means.

The waiting game never ends....

I agree with you....the waiting game never ends. Anyway as long as i'll last me for the next 3-4 years or better 5 years then I am content.

i just got it and am happy with it.
i dont care if they use nano technology for their MBP and launching it next month. i am happy with what i have now

@ifer,
That's the spirit! Oh.. and Congratulations !

I say da current Mb range is good enough.... i especially like da blackbook...

black 1? how come? The differences are just the extra 40Gb hdd and the colour is BLACK

Just one question... if i run photoshop and Illustrator in macbook 2.2ghz in same time will it be hang?

I plan to buy MBP but looking at the price in Aus is too expensive... I'll be using mostly Adobe programs with some 3D program for my Uni next year scared Macbook cannot support the workload...

=/

i got my mbp mainly for photoshop only.
i dont use illustrator wan.
but i dont think you will have any problems with both softwares...
4GB RAM is the way to go

@3ric,
Running Photoshop & Illustrator's OK - just need a little bit more RAM or patience

no problem dude. As long as you got the huge ram. Btw, usually i open 3 apps in my macbook, DRW, PS and AI cos i doing web-design. My macbook ram is 1.5Gb. So it is just minimum. So far so good, no problem. But if you open a bigger file then you probably can only open either one of those programs.

Recommended is 2-3Gb ram. 2D applications need RAM, not the graphic card. 3D applications need graphic card as well. I have not test 3D applications in my macbook. I think no problem 1 la if the file size is not so big la. If you really into 3D animation or video editing, then mb is a no-no for you. Get macbook pro or mac pro

Get macbook is more than enuf. Sometimes don't quite get those rich /b/astar. I saw a customer buy mid-range macbook pro (Rm9k+). What did he use for? For business only.. aiduh la.. Why need pro? macbook is more than enuf

This post has been edited by allvin: Dec 31 2007, 12:05 PM

allvin,

Let me explain to you this way. "John" drives a Merc S Class to work everyday. In fact, he only lives 3km away and barely travels. Why does he the S Class? He's no gonna need the more powerful engine. He is married too. Why not just a C class?

Well, quite simply because he can afford it. Life like that... =)

yeah i agree as well, tats life

likephone users,they dun fully utilise the function, but must buy phone with many many function

yea i know that logic.. Just sometimes piss me off.. And i encounter one teen girl (15-16yr old), got iphone le.. That's life

oh well.. most likely i'll get the new santa rosa Macbook with 4 gb ram which i will buy in KL beofre i leave to AUS.. save soem money to buy apple care...

here's roughly what I will use Photoshop,Illustrator, Lightwave, and flash.

Extra hardware like external hardisk and some notebook cooler enough?

Review 3D performance on Macbook

This post has been edited by 3ric: Dec 31 2007, 04:34 PM

You would probably need the external drive if you work with a lot of images.

As for the notebook cooler, you can pick it up later. Have you tried education discount? You might want to find out if your uni is giving any discounts for Macs.

Yup RMIT does have uni discount, MBP is A$ 2,599.00 for 2.2 ghz and A$ 3,299.00 for 2,4 ghz.

as for macbook A$ 1,749.00 for 2.2 ghz white and A$ 2,049.00 for black color..

I know i should get MBP but if i can survive with Macbook wih 4gb ram, save some money till i can afford myself to buy the MBP in future..

allvin, did i offend you by getting a mbp and using only photoshop? i am a photographer and my life depends on my camera and photoshop.

and i certain do not appreciate being called a /b/astar you sonofabi/tch

This post has been edited by ifer: Dec 31 2007, 07:21 PM

actually after i bought this mbp. I found that if i have the money to go for a macpro or imac. i would really love to. because the ram issue is something common. but if you are like me, working with large files. Ram is not going to save your days. The extra internal hard disk will seriously speed up your work, by alot. I have experienced how much difference when the scratch disk is set to internal hard disk that is not your boot drive.

So sad mbp only offers one hard disk. i would rather it offers me two hard disk and i can always buy an external dvd-rom.

for photographer, mbp is something you must not overlook. even Aperture needs the extra push that mbp can offer. The RAW files that are generated that you need to import inside Aperture is no kidding. You may just stare at how slow it is, just for one RAW files to go into other format that is ok with your situation.

But mostly i will carry my work out often to do... in RMIT there are already have a mac lab for students already... The question now is Macbook or MBP for me.. =/

hmmm, war brewing
better get my arse out 1st

i think you get me wrong.. Did I call you /b/astar? Nope.. I don't think so. I refer to that customer I serve. He bought mid-range mbp (RM9k) just for business usage. SO?

@allvin,
And so what's wrong with getting a RM9k MBP for biz usage? Illegal ah?!