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 AMDŽ Socket-AM2/AM2+ Overclocking thread (V4), Cockcroach AMD :P

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dblooi
post Dec 29 2007, 12:47 PM

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gentlemen , AMD 780G chipset mobo is coming soon brows.gif
according to biostar, the integrated gc performance is 3X better than 690G drool.gif
support hybrid crossfire technology and DX10 drool.gif
Southbridge is using SB700 drool.gif ( Unlike Biostar TA770 that uses SB600. )







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post Dec 29 2007, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(jlkueh @ Dec 29 2007, 12:47 PM)
Bro, are we talking on the same m/b here, coz mine only with option we talked about as below,

Multiplier(NPT Fid control): Only got options of 4 to 8 and auto

Memory clock value: Only DDR 400/533/667/800 and auto

Under HT Link control, HT Link frequency only 200/400/600/800/1000 and auto
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yeah, i'm sure we are talking about the same m/b , smile.gif
HT link frequency = HT multiplier
different name but actually they are the same thing wink.gif

edited : 1000MHz = 5X , 800MHz= 4X and so on

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post Dec 29 2007, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(coolblade @ Dec 29 2007, 01:04 PM)
Good info. But personally I think solid capacitor is better for longevity = jangka hayat..

sure it's expensive buying mainboard with all or some solid capacitors soldered...
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well, that's non TF mobo from biostar
i'm sure a TF version of this mobo will be coming soon as well brows.gif
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post Dec 29 2007, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(jlkueh @ Dec 29 2007, 01:05 PM)
So in order to get 3Ghz, pls correct me on the below:

CPU voltage=+0.05V
CPU clock=300Mhz
NPT Fid control=Auto
NPT Vid control=Auto
Memory clock value=DDR400

HT Link Control
->HT link width=auto
->HT link frequency=800Mhz

Dram configuration->memory timing
->CAS latency CL=5
->2T Mode=Enable
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yeah it looks good to me laugh.gif
don't forget to off the CnQ ( it's not in the oc options, try to find it in CPU advanced features) wink.gif

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post Dec 29 2007, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Dec 29 2007, 01:07 PM)
If we add the HT multiplier do we need to increase some HT voltage?
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it depends , just like our proc,
can oc to different range although we are using same model of proc laugh.gif
it does happen to mobo ,
but i don't think 1200MHz is something difficult for TA690G with stock HT voltage
You can try it 1st, if cannot boot then u can add more HT voltage during that time laugh.gif

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post Dec 29 2007, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(jlkueh @ Dec 29 2007, 01:17 PM)
No good to me, no boot, if boot also running in safe mode, btw what version of bios you're using?
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i'm using 605 bios
you are using latest bios R69AMC13 rite?
i don't think that's any issue for that bios
what's the max clockspeed that u can do so far?
any SS for that?
btw, just checked my test report
the stepping of the proc that i sell to ace combat is 0737BPMW 0558
that proc pass 3.1G pi 1M test without issue ( change settings in bios, boot in windows and Pi 1M)
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post Dec 29 2007, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Dec 29 2007, 02:57 PM)
I'll be getting an X2 next week... huhu. Waiting for my bro to post it to me.
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which X2? brows.gif
glad to see mod back to oc laugh.gif notworthy.gif


Added on December 29, 2007, 3:21 pm
QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 29 2007, 02:18 PM)
screen shot mean cpuz after u can boot
@DB wanna try LE proc after tis??
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yeah by reading the review..
that LE is running faster than my windsor at the same speed.
wanna figure out issit bcoz of that guy is better in pi benching / OS tweaking or bcoz of 1MB L2 cache is fully utilize by the single core hmm.gif

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post Dec 29 2007, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(iadejam @ Dec 29 2007, 04:24 PM)
huhuhu,no one wanna help me  cry.gif  cry.gif
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wow..looks like you are expecting people to 100% spoon feed you rclxub.gif
pls spend some time to read through the thread...
you can check post#611, i just post a simple guide about overclocking on am2 platform at there brows.gif

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post Dec 29 2007, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 29 2007, 05:58 PM)
wondering too.. if tat LE better, time to change.. summore its quite cheap.. i think wanna try r..
i think it is because of the L2.. so fast although its just single core

why not u give a try to oc single core only on 3800+ can catch up head to head or not.. fully tweak the small timing too... mybe it can help
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i did try to shut down 1 core in windows when i bench super pi
but the super pi result become slower after i assign real time priority to super pi through task manager
suppose it should be faster if dual core mode enable
and i didn't notice that b4 i assign priority , result is slower or faster. sad.gif
btw i've checked his memset , timings quite loose laugh.gif

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Dec 29 2007, 07:33 PM)
4400+ G2
besides, i need dual core since i do a lot of photo/video editing nowadays  tongue.gif
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hehe, no wonder brows.gif
was thinking what would make a retired ocer upgrade his pc again laugh.gif

QUOTE(jlkueh @ Dec 29 2007, 07:35 PM)
Right guys, finally managed to do 3Ghz, obviously ram setting is very important here. Still alot of fine tuning to do thou. Thanks dblooi, xixo_12!!
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you're welcome bro,
any problem, let me know agian wink.gif
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Dec 29 2007, 10:59 PM)
Oxburg is using that board

And also a small review by syazwareno here: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=589074
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lolz, after write the review then ask people how to overclock laugh.gif
but truly, the review not bad to me as i found some useful info from those pics
credits to bro syazwareno notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Dec 29 2007, 11:59 PM)
wow... seems like the bios is packed with OC features with reasonable voltage.. and best of all, intergrated memtest !!!
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until now biostar still using older version of memtest laugh.gif
wondering why hmm.gif
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post Dec 30 2007, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Ciku @ Dec 30 2007, 09:55 AM)
anyone can help me.. My 3800 f3 only can push to 2.6Ghz.  vmad.gif  cry.gif  rclxub.gif
This is what I do
fsb : 260
vcore : 1.20V
ram : 667Mhz but I set it to 533, so my ram divider now is 8
vdram : 1.90V
timing : change from 5-5-5-18 to 4-4-4-12 2T
HTT : set to 4x

After that I cannot push fsb higher than 264 though I set vcore higher than 1.20V. My computer fail to boot.
For information, I use asus m2n-e,acbel 350W psu, and kingston value ram. Maybe one of them give me limit to overclock my procc  hmm.gif
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currently 533, 2600/8 =325
650MHz now, gonna oc your ram soon and we dunno how ocable is ur value ram
better play safe, you may drop your memory divider to 400 wink.gif

also, HT multi change to 3x or lower notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Ciku @ Dec 30 2007, 10:50 AM)
533 is only what i set in bios to get divider 8. Currently I'm use kingston 667Mhz value ram. So 667/2=333.5. And now 2600/8=325. This mean ram frequency now almost same with origin frequency (333.5 >=325) and i already not oc my ram. this right or i misunderstand about that?
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i didn't say you already oc your ram bro sweat.gif ..
check back my post, i said you gonna oc your ram
what i meant is u may have to drop your memory divider if you willing to hit higher clockspeed

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QUOTE(Ciku @ Dec 30 2007, 11:21 AM)
ooo...i see that. Agree,since it value ram worry to oc it.. If i set ram to 400, how about timing? still use 5-5-5-18 2T?
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ya..that would be just fine.
btw, mind to post some SS of your oc?

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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Dec 30 2007, 11:35 AM)
It heavily depends on chipset. Some kingstons come with good chips (Hynix FP-Y5 was not too hard to find at one time, and I've seen pics of some with even D9GMH and D9GKX-for those chipsets DDR1000 is not difficult, and if you're lucky AND skilled DDR1200 is possible). But nowadays they've remarked the chips, so you can't tell any more.
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slightly off topic..
i heard from china forumers,
Kingston is using some unknown elpida ram chipset,
capable to do 1000MHz - 1200MHz, depends on the batch number
btw,the label for the ram chipsets are SAX and PTAX
edited: not sure can obtain in malaysia or not hmm.gif


QUOTE(Ciku @ Dec 30 2007, 11:37 AM)
ss will upload later coz only online at ofis  tongue.gif . Glad to hear value ram can push till 765Mhz. Just to ask, how about 350W psu? enough to push my procc to highest oc result?
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highest result? laugh.gif
How high that you are expecting ? brows.gif
IMHO, it shouldn't be a problem for you to hit 3.1G icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(@meno @ Dec 30 2007, 03:27 PM)
On last check they were out of stock.
And they will try to push you the Asus M3A no matter how you tell them you want the TA770+. tongue.gif

@-pws-,
May i know why the 770+ interest you?
Are you looking at it for higher OC or do you want the AM2+ support?
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actually i just have a brief discussion with bro -pws- this morning
the max 2.9vdimm support is damn tempting... drool.gif
also HT multi can stick to 5X until the end of world, that's cool tongue.gif
currently my oc stop adi,
one of the reason is bcoz the ram is not following up adi
this mobo would be perfect for ram overclocking brows.gif
Just read through some reviews,
seems like the bios of TA770 still a bit unstable yet
hope they will fix it soon.


QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 30 2007, 03:30 PM)
I think dblooi is the suitable one to answer you this Q. laugh.gif

-pWs-
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post Dec 30 2007, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(@meno @ Dec 30 2007, 03:51 PM)
There's a new Bios revision for the TA770 A2+, but not sure how well will it perform yet. Have been having difficulties finding proper reviews on this mobo yet.
So Biostar had finally breakthrough the 2.2v vdimm limit, that is interesting. I actually gave up on this mobo because i could not confirm whether the Vdimm is still limited at 2.2v. The HT part is really cool and tempting.

Go get urself one and show us what the 770 chipset can do...
I'm curious to see will it outperform the Nforce 590 in overclocking.

Btw, my F3 screenies whould be up somewhere around next week. Too bad my GeminII will only be arriving mid next week after 1-1, if not 1-1 will be the best day to pust the proc to the max and fully setup the thing as my rams and fan should arrive anytime tomorrow. tongue.gif
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biostar adi break the barrier quite some time ago
TF7050 , TF7025 , TF 560 , TF520 and TA690G can consider 2nd generation of TF am2 mobo
Biostar adi fix the low vdimm issue for all these mobo
AFAIK , TA690G has the highest max vdimm support (2.6v, not sure about TF560 and TF520 as i nv use b4)
and about the nf590 , to me i won't get it for overclocking usage.
a cheap mobo like TA690G already can perform good overcloking notworthy.gif
lastly, looking forward for your screenies brows.gif
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 30 2007, 07:11 PM)
My advise I suggest you strongly get;
1. AMD X2 5000+ Black Edition at 365
2. Biostarr TA770
3. Dual DDR2 800

You can easily OC to 3.1 at stock voltage.  brows.gif
You get better performance, low power consumption and less heat from 6000+
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5000+ BE promoter spotted brows.gif
bro devillman, 2 questions regarding your mobo icon_rolleyes.gif

1) your MSI 790FX platinum has any CMOS reload function? Means that you can save your oc settings in the BIOS. After clear cmos or what, you can recall your settings from the cmos reload function.

2) how's your mobo response to an unsuccessful oc? It falls into something like safe mode / protection mode, remind you that something wrong with your settings or you have to clear cmos in order to make ur mobo back to work again?
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QUOTE(jiahuilee @ Dec 30 2007, 07:33 PM)
hey sorry bro... i am really noob here and dont think i will overclock my pc...

and i will be bringing this pc oversea so i dont wanna risk spoiling it ( since i am noob)....

i am aware of your suggestion above and would be buying item 2 and 3 on your list with a amd x2 6000...

i just want to know if the amd x2 6000 is good for noob like me.. and also what is the correct price for it??

thanks so much for your help!
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mind to tell me...

1) what's the main usage of ur coming rig ?
2) what's ur budget?

6000+ is good, you will benefit a lot from the 2X 1MB L2 cache smile.gif
while 5000+ only have 2x512kB L2 cache with higher latency compare to 6000+

p/s: sorry ya devilman, kacau your business laugh.gif

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