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 AMDŽ Socket-AM2/AM2+ Overclocking thread (V4), Cockcroach AMD :P

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post Dec 22 2007, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 22 2007, 11:35 AM)
vcore?? tinggi nyer.. why use 9??
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maybe he wanna form a beautiful figure

333 HTT, 1000 HT link brows.gif

bro tachlio,
your vcore why set to so high? sweat.gif
your proc can do 3.3G prime stable adi with that vcore sweat.gif

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post Dec 22 2007, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(tachlio @ Dec 22 2007, 11:47 AM)
don know why i set 1.275vcore got got problem when load to window~

so i set to 1.3 it is ok~

later when have time i try again~ coz the ram i still no time to tweak yet all direct choose loosen 1st
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change to the modded bios adi?
your mobo got problem with oc ram, need suitable bios only can oc properly
about ram tweak, you can check my posts in V3 last few pages...
i share with alive88 and few guys here b4 icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 22 2007, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(tachlio @ Dec 22 2007, 12:03 PM)
ya using the Modded bios by -pWs-

don know why 667@10 mutiple stuck at 260 busspeed only~

BTW the Trfc for each ram, Mal, refresh mode N trd how to choose when start OC?
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trfc set to 75ns, MAL set tp 8 or 9, refresh rate use 3,9us smile.gif
2600/6= 433
your ram just oc a bit only, what's the ram timings that u use during that time?

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post Dec 22 2007, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(tachlio @ Dec 22 2007, 12:42 PM)
667 lolz~

it can do 336x9.5 n 336 x9 but cant even pass 260x10
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don't use 9.5 multi , low performance
i meant what's ur ram timings when you oc 260X10 that time laugh.gif
5-5-5-15-2T?
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post Dec 22 2007, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Dec 22 2007, 05:28 PM)
Why your core voltage is so low?Mine at least 1.475 oni can boot 2.8Ghz. = =
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probably you have no idea about what is F3 windsor whistling.gif
alive88's vcore is consider too high adi for him to do 3.0GHz

check this out, what can a F3 windsor do at 1.475v brows.gif





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post Dec 22 2007, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Dec 22 2007, 08:21 PM)
OMG....Izit brisby sux?...BTW the RAM Vdimm how many ? 583Mhz..
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vdimm? Max pumped
but actually i can do it with 2.25v brows.gif
my 10th can do 1200Mhz with ~2.3v laugh.gif
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post Dec 22 2007, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Dec 22 2007, 09:00 PM)
..........Anyway i can boot up at 3.0Ghz but cant pass orthos test and SuperPI test... i am wicked sick.
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bro, what's ur temperature when u use 2.8GHz 1.475vcore?
can show a SS ? interested to know laugh.gif
thanks notworthy.gif
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post Dec 22 2007, 10:37 PM

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phenom 9600 black overclock to 3GHz stably rclxm9.gif
(but wait, check the vcore sweat.gif )

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QUOTE(alive88 @ Dec 22 2007, 10:52 PM)
bro dblooi,is it 3.1ghz at 1.275v high?
coz if my fsb is 314(3.14ghz)1.275 vcore.already not stable

ive tried to boot 3.4 at 1.350vcore.pass sper pi 1m..only once..
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HTT 314? Orthos ? no idea as i never test that b4 for ur proc notworthy.gif
only test stability of those proc with Pi 1M smile.gif

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post Dec 22 2007, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 22 2007, 10:37 PM)
the latency is more giving it to clock more higher....
same as ram latency... u may see why ddr3 latency so high with higher mhz...
it is due to 65nm technologies...
more smaller capacitor less heat...
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Dec 22 2007, 11:24 PM)
my statement b4 correct what..i mean the diff performance between the brisbane and windsor is caused by the latency.have to clock 0.1ghz higher for brisbane.
with smaller caps, does that means more caps can be stuffed inside the die?? means the size smaller, but the total caps used increased??
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aiyoyo...it's transistor , not capacitor laugh.gif

for k8 am2 proc

number of transistors

90nm: 164 to 243 million (depending on cache size)
65nm: 221 million


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post Dec 22 2007, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 22 2007, 11:21 PM)
Just read one review for intel Dual Core and Quad Core Q66.
Forgot what the model for Dual Core laugh.gif

For Quad Core, it take almost double power consumption as Dual Core. sweat.gif

I think the same goes to Phenom smile.gif Not sure though. Hehe
If want to go Quad, prepare money for electric bill as well. Hahahahah

-pWs-
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For phonom 9500 and 9600, they are rated as 95w
C2Q power consumption is doubled maybe becoz they just simply combine two dual core together then gao thim laugh.gif
while phenom is native quad core processor brows.gif
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post Dec 23 2007, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 23 2007, 12:36 AM)
ongbs...u're down tongue.gif....dblooi bro..u're my next target tongue.gif  tongue.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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haha, come on
i never afraid of challenges brows.gif
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post Dec 23 2007, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 23 2007, 03:55 AM)
a bit off topic.........
well...interpret from what's bro clawhammer said,
i think he meant AMD thread is hotter / crowded brows.gif


QUOTE(Oxburg @ Dec 22 2007, 11:19 AM)
wow so cold? I tot intel is hot.
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Dec 22 2007, 04:56 PM)
AMD is always hotter.
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Dec 23 2007, 03:41 AM)
Maybe I should be very careful and specific in every single post, going through facts, documentations and grammar plus vocabulary checks because Malaysian forummers have problems understanding and intepreting words in a very generalized statement.

In other forums, I normally don't have such issues.
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post Dec 23 2007, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 23 2007, 09:31 AM)
Guys. I just got my 5000+ Black Edition yesterday at RM365.  rolleyes.gif
Doing rock stable at 3.1Ghz. Multipler 15.5 set x 200 standard fsb.  rclxm9.gif
Thinking to push more now.  brows.gif
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SS pls brows.gif
wow, just check your signature.
your rig really make me drool.gif

edited: what's max multi that can use for 5000+ black?

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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 23 2007, 11:53 AM)
anyway bro.. 3850 bape u bli ha?? have conflict to run it??
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xixo forming triple A platform ka? brows.gif
(AMD proc, AMD chipset , AMD gc)
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post Dec 23 2007, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 23 2007, 04:14 PM)
I just downloaded the MSI K9A2 Platinum manual from MSI.

@Devilman
Is it the BIOS setting same as the manual??
IIANM, there are only few setting for ram timing. sad.gif

-pWs-
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hmm...i just read it too... hmm.gif
i guess is the manual not detail enough
i will give a C- to this handsome mobo's manual laugh.gif

edited: just check the layout of the mobo , notice that it has two phase power design for ram part ( while normal mobo only have single phase). theoretically this mobo is build to do insane ram oc brows.gif

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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 23 2007, 07:53 PM)
timing, vdimm is definitely insane. its has so many options until i dunno what set.
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after some googling,
at last i found the bios dram configuration SS of your mobo rclxm9.gif
bro -pws-, you would love to see this brows.gif

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hey wait...i think he plug his ram wrongly adi
if i'm not mistaken, to form dual channel on MSI mobo,
two sticks of ram need to plug in different colour dimm slots sweat.gif

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check his CPU-Z SS, really single channel only sweat.gif
another typical case of didn't read manual b4 setup the rig laugh.gif



link: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=167447

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QUOTE(capriodimitri @ Dec 23 2007, 08:36 PM)
Add me please, an update to previous result. I think this is the highest OC I can achieve with this proc without any errors.

5600+ X2 Windsor F3 | capriodimitri | M2N32 SLi Deluxe | Corsair XMS2 | 6400 | 5-5-5-15-23 | Xigmatek HDT S1283

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I wonder why quite a number of new records do not have SuperPi 32M or Orthos >1 hour? A few of them just post 1M SuperPi. Even if windows able to boot with such high speed, wont it be unwise to run at such unstable processor calculation?

Using F3, I notice vcore require is much lower to achieve higher speed. But since I am new in OC here, how some people can achieve such high OC (with dry ice and etc) but aint using it for daily use? Is it just for benchmark? For me, I cant go higher than 3.22Ghz with this proc without error. Even I pumped muvh vcore but it is still the same. It can boot up at 3.3ghz but got error at Orthosing.

I think the main purpose of OC would be maximize our value of the proc esp for daily usage, right? Hope to hear opinion from you.
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i'm sure bro -pws- is doing his job well
those results with pi 1M will not be added into database smile.gif

wow, looking for a debate? icon_idea.gif
your question is simple to answer
let's take an example,
you watch F1 racing?
one of the hottest race on earth.
But don't you think it's stupid?
create such fast and mighty beast but cannot use it for daily life
But yet so many people love it,
why?
Because those F1 drivers enjoy the game and people enjoy watching.
extreme overclock is more or less the same thing laugh.gif
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QUOTE(HMV DVD @ Dec 23 2007, 08:46 PM)
Hello , somebody who can help me ? Sometimes it no display and got sound 'beep' like no ram plug in . But i off and turn on again it can run My Pc Spec is like below :
Abit KN9 Ultra Motherboard
Athlon64 3500+ processor (AM2 Socket)
Kingston 1GB DDRII 667MHZ Ram x2 (Run Dual Channel )
MSI 8600GT OC Edition
Cooler Master extreme power 430w power supply
Asus DVD-RW Sata Drive
Seagate 160gb sata HDD
Seagate 80gb ide HDD

My BIOS setting like that :
My bios setting is like that
FSB = 252MHZ
Multiplier = x11
pcie clock =100MHZ
cpu core voltage =1.550V
Ram voltage = 1.90v
HT speed = 3x
cpu cool and quiet control = disabled

DRAM setting is 667MHZ
cas latency =5 clocks
TRCD=5 clocks
Trp =5 clocks
Tras=15 clocks
Trc = 19 clocks
Trfc0 for dimm1= 127.5 ns
Trfc1 for dimm2=127.5 ns
Trfc2 for dimm3=127.5 ns
Trfc3 for dimm4=127.5 ns
command rate = 1T

After that i got one question , i use this bios setting previously can overclock to 256MHz X11 (2816MHZ ) , but now cannot reach again if my ram plug dual channel , but can boot if i use 1 ram only !
This is my question , Thank for all the people can help me !  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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your vcore.... sweat.gif quite high adi
what's ur cooling? Mind to share?

from the SS, you are overclocking your ram adi...
what you can do is ..

a) change command rate to 2T
b) lower down the memory divider to 533 or 400
c) change trfc to 195ns ( if cannot boot, change back to 127.5, judge the situation by yourself )

look at your SS, i afraid your proc adi reach the limit notworthy.gif

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post Dec 23 2007, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 23 2007, 08:41 PM)
yep, must be diff ram slot color. i feel my cpu still bottleneck my card.  doh.gif
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maybe is time for you to get windsor F3 brows.gif

QUOTE(rainingzero @ Dec 23 2007, 09:00 PM)
nice metaphore there...i like it.. icon_idea.gif
mostly ocer will try their best to achieve best score in benchmark. however, for daily usage, with such high vcore, vdimm etc2, pumped, not good for ur hardware healths...tongue.gif
lifespan would reduced lo...
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thanks, glad to see you like it brows.gif

QUOTE(capriodimitri @ Dec 23 2007, 09:05 PM)
Thanks, I agree what you are implying. Me not looking for debate la, still new  tongue.gif  Just wanna ask a technical question, actually. Is it possible to OC so high and yet so stable for certain batch of proc? Example, mine is OC to 3.22, if I get another similar proc, will the result be same, or there is a possibility to OC to 3.4?

Why is it there is error, despite I have check all the following: vcore, vdimm, ram timing + speed, HT bus, temperature? Is it luck?
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haha, i know...just kidding about the debate tongue.gif
of coz, your answer is definitely a big yes
different stepping , oc ability also different
for windsor F3, always go for CCB8F 1st brows.gif
batch number? it's depend on your luck for this part smile.gif

your 2nd question. i would say that nope it is not luck.
debugging an error always skills and experience involved

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