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post Dec 30 2007, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(jiahuilee @ Dec 30 2007, 10:20 PM)
Planning get my new pc to game quite a fair bit and also do downloads and normal surfin.

My budget is around 3.5k including monitor. The reason i wanted to get a amd x2 6000 is because i am also getting a 8800GT as gc so might as well get some better proc to match up with it.

Any advice on my rig?

AMD X2 6000 ---540
Biostar TA-770 ---320
Seagate 320 Sata2 ---160
KS 800 1gb x 2 ---160
Biostar Nx8800GT ---810
Silverstone Power Supply 500W ---280
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glad to see a loyal AMD supporter here laugh.gif
If i have that amount of budget,
probably i already join the dark side brows.gif
3.5k is a big amount , can form an ultimate gaming rig if spend wisely brows.gif
oh ya,
Biostar gc? hehe good luck to you laugh.gif
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post Dec 30 2007, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(jiahuilee @ Dec 30 2007, 10:39 PM)
anything wrong with the biostar gc? i am getting it coz its cheap.. or do u have any suggestion??

for 3.5k what would be your recommendation for an ultimate gaming rig?
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you can get any AMD 790FX chipset mobo since you are hunger for game
get a cheaper proc while waiting for K10 B3 stepping proc arrive,
after all K8 am2 proc is already outperformed by c2d these days.
maybe can get 4000+ G2 or what ,
can minimize the lost when next time u plan to migrate to K10 proc
of coz , 5000+ BE also a good choice brows.gif

you're here in am2 oc section, for sure we will suggest u to get a low end proc and oc to higher speed
and overclock a G2 proc is not something hard ,
i'm sure u can do 3GHz or above oc easily and it won't bottleneck your game after OC laugh.gif

for gc, you can get HD3870 ,
maybe you will question me,
why don't get 8800GT? performance is better than HD3870
well.... yeah one HD3870 definitely lose to 8800GT,
but what about 2? 3? 4? (power of crossfireX) brows.gif
and i'm sure you cannot do 3-way SLI for that 8800GT bcoz only 8800GTX or 8800Ultra support that laugh.gif
(you know the price of these 2 graphic giants rite? laugh.gif )
furthermore 8800GS is coming out soon,
certainly AMD will adjust the price for HD3870 and HD3850 again in near future.
btw, if you insist to get a 8800GT, please don't get that biostar sweat.gif

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post Dec 31 2007, 06:38 AM

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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 31 2007, 12:14 AM)
biostar wanna use for 3 years? ... i worry caps bomb wor.. hehe
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wow....cool
where you heard about this? laugh.gif
let me know ok? i would like to see how's solid state caps bomb would be drool.gif

QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 31 2007, 12:55 AM)
I dont know whether you guys already discuss about this or not. icon_question.gif

TA770+ can support phenom rite?
So phenom can support DDRII 1066 rite?
So does the TA770+ support DDR II and can i use it with X2 F3?
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am2+ still using DDRII laugh.gif
but you cannot use 1066 memory divider for am2 proc icon_rolleyes.gif
it is only supported by am2+ proc

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post Dec 31 2007, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(CV6149 @ Dec 31 2007, 12:32 PM)
my latest superPI is up.
I think this would be the best ever I can get without ice or subzero temp.
Kinda headache to get that...
Check it at the overclocking database.

Have problem going >3555mhz hmm.gif

I do hope other people join in also. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 31 2007, 01:55 PM)
Waa...I cannot get over 3500MHz  doh.gif
Bro,
I still cannot get it stable @ 3300MHz @ 1.45v.
Any idea??  icon_question.gif

-pWs-
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bro pws and cv6149,
have you guys ever try to oc the highest HTT that u can get with your mobo?
maybe can drop multi to 5, try to push the HTT kaw kaw,
see how far it can go notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 31 2007, 04:22 PM)
Waaa...dun wan la. My board almost "kong" already.
If spoil, Biostar TA770 A2 here I come  drool.gif  drool.gif

-pWs-
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hehe, that's why i suggest to do so brows.gif
for TA770 giak giak..
haha, just kidding la laugh.gif
actually i suspect is DFI ultra2 M2 cannot do more than 360HTT
hmm....not really sure about that, hmm.gif
just a suspection though notworthy.gif


QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 31 2007, 04:30 PM)
anyone can give proof the relation between temp n oc?? still wondering till now.. mean if u cant pass 3.5, it is because it edi achieve the high temp eventhough u didnt set anything at bios...

more ppl getting fast.. i still didnt try my 2x 1gb crucial
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temp does affect the oc..
i have expierience with that.
With air cooling, vcore 1.61v , clock speed 3.7GHz and temperature 60C
Failed to boot into windows

With Iced water cooling, it works (exactly same settings, temp 17C)
After the ice melted , temp raise a bit to 30C,
same thing happen again, fail to boot into windows though the temp is only 30C notworthy.gif


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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 31 2007, 07:06 PM)
so epox is upgraded now? nice
k7 epox i saw the board all caps bomb...
abit caps bomb kt7a board one i think... one single caps been said world wide...
epox = biostar ... doesn't it?

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please don't just simply say something without evidence
i dunno what's wrong with you,
you seem love to flame biostar for no reason
if you are not sure of something,
you can always google 1st wink.gif

edited:

1) solid state caps won't bomb
2) biostar caps bomb also happened in K7 era ONLY, like your beloved ABIT icon_rolleyes.gif

stop flaming biostar with false statements, thank you notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(tachlio @ Dec 31 2007, 08:33 PM)
i think if we lower the mutiple v can get higher HTT
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it's weird to see your 10 multi jammed when oc
do you want me to have a look for you?
i can go to your place and check for you if you want laugh.gif
i will be leaving penang in 2 weeks time
after that no more chance ar laugh.gif
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Dec 31 2007, 08:37 PM)
i have feeling like that too... thx for give support for my feeling.. means its true now...
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ha, glad that i can help you notworthy.gif

QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 31 2007, 10:01 PM)
wah special service. come to my place then. treat ur dinner.  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
yaya. rumors or urban legend.
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hehe, where's your location ? brows.gif
your hardwares so high end,
would love to go your house for once brows.gif

QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 31 2007, 09:57 PM)
not read but heard from rumors..
sorry if that hurt =X  tongue.gif
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yawn yawn.gif
come on, be mature
acting in such childish way won't boost your business as well as reputation yawn.gif
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Dec 31 2007, 11:30 PM)
hehe then do i need bring my CPU go u there??

BTW happy near year eve  thumbup.gif  wish.gif
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happy new year tachlio laugh.gif
yeah you wanna come my place also can brows.gif
and that should be better laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ongbs @ Jan 1 2008, 06:58 AM)
2008 1 1 1st post  tongue.gif

Trial on 400HTT, not finetune yet.... (refer screeny for various settings)
Pass SuperPi 1M but results sux in Vista (32sec, malu nak post SPI screeny whistling.gifdoh.gif

Running Orthos now with Thermalright Ultra-90 + Delta 92mm air cool  sweat.gif


Added on January 1, 2008, 7:03 am
bro db, DFI won't stop at 360HTT lah  thumbup.gif  tongue.gif
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thousands apologies , notworthy.gif
just a wild guess from me laugh.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jan 1 2008, 08:51 PM)
How bout Biostar TA770 A2+?? brows.gif

-pWs-
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that mobo got max 2.9vdimm drool.gif
and can stick to 5x HT multiplier till end of the world laugh.gif
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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Jan 2 2008, 04:46 AM)
currently in a very very very very disappointed mood.

Bought my MSI K9A2 today, just finish got everything up and running and even lapped my F3 and planning to push my proc further where my previous board limits me.

As usual, most of us sick overclockers here, the first thing you do when u boot up will be hitting the "del" key, i was no exception. Was happy to see LOTS of overclocking setting, but... wtf the max vcore is only 1.48!!!

Crap, if they dont release any new bios to improve this, ill be dammed. RM5xx mobo only to get max 1.4v.... doh.gif
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so sorry to hear that cry.gif
1.48v is too handicap for a high end mobo sad.gif
what about vdimm? what's the max vdimm for that mobo?
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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Jan 2 2008, 04:46 AM)
currently in a very very very very disappointed mood.

Bought my MSI K9A2 today, just finish got everything up and running and even lapped my F3 and planning to push my proc further where my previous board limits me.

As usual, most of us sick overclockers here, the first thing you do when u boot up will be hitting the "del" key, i was no exception. Was happy to see LOTS of overclocking setting, but... wtf the max vcore is only 1.48!!!

Crap, if they dont release any new bios to improve this, ill be dammed. RM5xx mobo only to get max 1.4v.... doh.gif
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bro...something wrong v the version of bios i guess
check this out, just try to google and get this
the guy is using 1.537v for the same mobo

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link: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=167447

edited: however, from the SS. i think 1.537v oredi the max vcore cry.gif

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QUOTE(ocz @ Jan 2 2008, 09:25 AM)
I dont have a prove yet bro. sad.gif
But to me,after reading a lot in this thread about TA770,its kind of promising.
With the price tag @ RM320,the layout is almost the same as TA690G,its just that its ATX.
Also,the Hyper Transport hit 5.2G. thumbup.gif
Besides,i still blur about the audio port,in the spec review said,it have S/PDIF out,but i cant see it at the rear I/O in the pictures. sweat.gif
Maybe its optional.well thats okey.

The most best part is,IF i am not mistaken,dblooi said the on board graphic is 3 times better than the TA690G.
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the one with integrated gc is 780G, my friend laugh.gif
it's coming soon , while the one that we are discussing here is TA770 laugh.gif
you need an external gc in order to make it moves
about the S/PDIF, i think it's same as TA690G,
supported by using optional device. There's jumper there ready for S/PDIF cable wink.gif
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QUOTE(ocz @ Jan 2 2008, 09:56 AM)
Alamak,my biggest mistake in 2008 la. blush.gif
Thanx bro, db,the 780 is for intel rite??

If the 770 needs a gpu to move it on,thats mean,i buy it but cant use it 1st due to no gpu at the moment. rclxub.gif  cry.gif

I feel like want to scream d when i reviewed the 770 BACK I/O just now and realized that the no port for graphic.
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the 780i that u mentioned is nvidia chipset laugh.gif
bro, is time to get a AMD HD 3850/ 3870 gc brows.gif
btw, the performance of TA770 still unconfirm ( at least to me )
so far what i know is vcore can add till 2.XXv ,
HT voltage 1.5XXv , NB/SB voltage 1.5xxv and vdimm 2.9v icon_rolleyes.gif
The november bios seems to be very buggy ,
not sure about the latest bios...
looks like we need to invite those TA770 user to join the discussion laugh.gif
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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Jan 2 2008, 12:14 PM)
Theres a weird thing with my K9A2, despite the lousy low vcore limit, vdimm can go up to 3.2V !!!

Bios is currently the latest version, the first thing i did when i notice hte low vcore is searching for an update. This is indeed crap. The board looks really promising physically, the PCB is extremely solid unlike many other budget board, layout is perfectly to my liking and i love the ram slot allocation as most of you guys know that 90% of am2 board out there has to use slot1/2 for dual channel, unlike intel's 1/3.

Im putting high hopes that newer bios will enable more vcore since its a very very new board. I will post up a short review on this board tonight.
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about the ram slots part,
can't really get it,
you mean this mobo offering slot 1/3 for dual channel?
if that's what you meant, i guess you have to be dissapointed sad.gif
FYI, MSI mobo has their own way in forming dual channel mode.
ram stick need to put in different colour slot for MSI mobo in order to form dual channel.
anyway thanks bro AoiNatsume for the feedback. Awaiting for your further updates and good luck to you notworthy.gif

QUOTE(8tvt @ Jan 2 2008, 12:44 PM)
u mean 1.6 is lousy? how much u want 2.0? just email them la..
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hmm.. i guess overclock in am2 clan can be devided into two catergories
some guys are seeking for stable overlock as they wanna use the OCed rig for 24/7.
while some guys here prefer doing extreme overclock.
well i guess , for those guys that doing extreme overclock. After spent 500 plus but get a mobo that has limited max vcore , they won't be happy for sure notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(capriodimitri @ Jan 2 2008, 03:09 PM)
Just got myself Windsor 5200+ F3. I am wondering if batch number CCB8F and CCB6F have large difference in term of over clocking? The one I have is CCB6F.

Can only found CCB8F in 5600+
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i would say that yes there will be big difference for CCB6F and CCB8F.
anyway you can give a try, who knows you've got a good CCB6F laugh.gif
We won't know that wink.gif
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jan 2 2008, 03:21 PM)
guys, can do me a favour or not?  notworthy.gif

can provide me d batch no. of f3 3800+? mite go sls for treasure huntin...  tongue.gif
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search my F3 sales thread,
view page 1 and page 2 for stepping list
you will get some idea there on which stepping is good wink.gif
anyway good luck in treasure hunting,
i did it many times b4 but everytime get null results
have to buy from oversea at the end sad.gif
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QUOTE(capriodimitri @ Jan 2 2008, 04:36 PM)
Oh dear, can I expect 3.2 Ghz from 2.6 Ghz? From my initial test, I think processor cache play an important role in its speed.
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check this out, i was 5200+ user once
max oc 3.35G only (vcore 1.7v sweat.gif )
ya larger the cache, cpu get better performance in most of the benchmarking notworthy.gif


edited: forget to mention, my 5200+ is CCB6F 0713RPMW laugh.gif

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QUOTE(alive88 @ Jan 2 2008, 08:16 PM)
xixo,no psu yet ka?waiting for u to OC..
still no one tried the ta770?my hands are really itchy...
n my ram is freezing...keep asking for more vdimm...they dont want blanket,they want to get burnt inside

guys!help2!tuniq tower 120 or ttbtvx?which is better?if the performnce is on par,ill pick ttbtvx,coz tuniq cost me 50 more
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overclock result of TA770 bruce.gif

don't wanna comment anything about it until i try it by my own hmm.gif


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