I think it is hard to get 285 in malacca
Why dun u ask dblooi buy for you?? And you pay postage.

-pWs-

good2.. later i msg him la..
i think so, will not that range of price..cost there, cost here..

Bro,many people getting this mobo,r u getting one too?
How about the stability,is it 100% recommended?

I dun hav money to play
For stability, really not sure.

Wait for those future TA770 A2+ owner to tell u

-pWs-

Has anyone tested or use AMD Overdrive?
Im running the Stability test and its kinda good and cool.

Alamak, the most kecewa reply I received so far.

i tried it and surprisingly.. it works very well. Unlike all the other software based OC tool which suck bad.

Damn sedey dblooi cant get F3's Dat's my dream proc la.

I think AMD has absolutely no chance to take back the crown until their 45nm chips (Shanghai/Deneb) are out, and even then I think it will be a close competition with Nehalem, which will be coming out around the same time (end of this year). It will be a race to see who is first to arrive and take the crown. The good news for AMD is that despite Intel's claims that Nehalam will beat Penryn by 20-30%, I doubt it will be anywhere close to that, since the biggest performance-improving factor known is the integrated DDR3 memory controller and Quickpath bus (Intel's version of Hypertransport). Most also I think there will be a 10-20% improvement, which was what was seen when AMD moved from K7 to K8. Also, Deneb will have a substantially larger cache than Agena (last I heard, ~6mb total L1, L2 & L3 combined), so this removes one of the largest stumbling blocks for AMD (AMD loses big time in anything that uses lots of cache-gaming, multimedia encoding/decoding, benchmarks).

2nd good news for AMD is that its unlikely that Nehalam will clock higher than Penryn, even on extreme cooling Penryn doesn't clock much higher than Conroe (though it produces so little heat that you can hit 4Ghz on air cooling). This shows that there is a major technological block to achieving more than 4Ghz on current silicon technology, and its highly unlikely that it would be solved by the time Nehalem is out. For point of reference, the max overclock for Conroe hasn't changed much since it came out over a year ago, and Penryn hardly improves on that. AMD has a chance to work on their design and produce a chip that can match Intel on clockspeed, but they much get it done within the year or things will get difficult. Clockspeed should improve when AMD goes 45nm, and I'm praying they will start using Si-Ge in Deneb, though I doubt it will happen though research is underway at AMD. Si-Ge integrated circuits can clock spectacularly higher than pure Si circuits, for identical designs a pure Si circuit that maxes out at 4Ghz can reach 6-12GHz when built on Si-Ge.

Another plus for AMD platforms is that they will not require any big system changes, while its unavoidable for Intel users that they'll have to change their motherboard for sure (the circuit is 100% different). Last I heard, even AM3 processors will be able to run on AM2 boards and DDR2, even though they're supposed to run DDR3. Nehalem will almost surely run only DDR3.

The bad news for AMD is that Intel will have plenty of experience with 45nm production by the time Nehalem arrives, and its unlikely Intel will make any mistakes for AMD to take advantage of. Any mistake by AMD will be fatal at this point, and it doesn't help that AMD is having financial troubles due to the Barcelona TLB screw up and the overpriced purchase of ATI.

Thats quite interesting, I need to try it out on my nview. Seem to be getting a slightly worse overclock than most of the F3 users, though its partly because the place where I overclock is pretty warm.

Last I heard, the highest clocked dual core Phenoms (kuma) are clocked similarly to the quad core Agenas. In general though, as I recall most of the kumas are clocked higher than the agenas.

But one thing is for sure, Kumas and Tollimans (X3) will not arrive till Q2. By then 45nm is already on its way (Shanghai/Deneb). In fact, Shanghai is already in production, though the current revisions may still be improved on before producing the revision that will be launched hopefully end of this year.

This post has been edited by lohwenli: Jan 15 2008, 09:03 AM

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AMD Athlon X2 3800+ | fuzore | Gigabyte GA-M57SLI-S4 | Aeneon Value Ram DDR667 | 400mhz Effective | 5-5-5-18 | cooler master hyper UC

need some opinion here from pros there can my x2 3800+ go more then 2.4-2.5Ghz becoz this is the best i can get..
btw mine is F2 family..


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pump more vcore...~~~

last time i need 1.4v to get 2.4GHz and 1.55v to get 2.5GHz for my Windsor 3800..
so i think u should add more voltage..and perhaps lower down the ram divider

ohh... so i need to pump more vcore and for my ram divider now using cpu/6 need to go down how far
cpu/5 or 4...

Use 533 or 400MHz divider
Which meant CPU/8 for 533 divider and CPU/10 for 400 divider IIANM

-pWs-

sifu..can teach how to read cpu/ddr2 divider the right way plz..i think i've been reading it the wrong way la...
silly me..

always refer to the divider table @ frontpage..
try to understand the number..

will post ice wc result in 2 days~

definately can go higher bro, my 3600+ even manage to do a 2.7GHz, thou 2.6GHz is safer on 24/7 basis...


3.8GHz anyone...

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Jan 15 2008, 12:01 PM

how do u know it's not good? supplier already test one by one?