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carlosandy
post Apr 8 2008, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(peng123 @ Apr 8 2008, 11:42 AM)
any comment on kasturi-f8 jackson chan ?
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I think you better choose Philip Woo, cos according to my friend, he won't teach so clear and detail as compare to Philip Woo. Some more, tuition fees also same, why not choose Philip Woo?
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post Apr 8 2008, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(peng123 @ Apr 8 2008, 12:05 PM)
philip woo revision class only 2 days but jackson chan 4 days  plus. more worth than philip woo. How ? cry.gif
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You can't look at this, young man!

Even Philip Woo only 2 days (16 hours), but I can promise you that he can give you very clear explanation, tell you what examiner want and exam technique.

Revision class is focus on spotter topic and exam technique. If some lecturer inexperience in this, no matter how many day he teach you, but also can't help you too much.

Trust me! Majority of my friend and myself also after attend Philip Woo class, also agree Philip Woo is a very good lecturer in Audit paper.
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post Apr 8 2008, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(peng123 @ Apr 8 2008, 04:54 PM)
what about kolej bandar-low chin ann  ?
the reason why i don wan go philip woo class are he teach a bit faster and not details. for me, he is SO SO only.   sad.gif
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Do you go for Philip class b4? How come you will feel that his teaching method not so detail? And not him, even others lecturer also need to go fast during revision class. You can't expect lecturer teach you step by step during revision class. You must study 1st before go to any revision class.

But if you really feel Philip not good, may be you can try Sheila!


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QUOTE(happysky_ching86 @ Apr 8 2008, 05:07 PM)
hie

im from penang and i was thinking wheather want to attend F8 IRC at kl anot but i not very sure which lecturer or college is the best.Any recommendation?
And can i have the IRC timetable too? thank you!!!
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F8, you can go to Philip Woo (Kasturi) or Sheila (Mc Orange).

The IRC time table, for Philip Woo will be 3/5 & 4/5 - 10 am to 7pm

For Sheila, I'm not sure. May be you check at Mc Orange website or call to ask.

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post Apr 9 2008, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(coolkid23 @ Apr 9 2008, 01:13 AM)
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Does it worth to spend more RM10k to get a college life?
Anyone from SUNWAY can tell me why?
Why you choose SUNWAY?
I fervently hope that i can get a better answer.
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I can tell some reason la! Sunway was a very famous college in teaching ACCA those time.

Those time, a lot of ACCA famous lecturer like Andrew Pang, Choong Kwai Fatt, Chow Chee Yen and etc also teach in Sunway before. And also a lot of World Prize and M'sia Prize winner also from Sunway. That's why when talk about ACCA, everybody also think Sunway.

Today even majority of the all these famous lecturer (except for Ms Menon) already leaving Sunway, but due to the advertisment and good reputation from those time, a lot of ppl still will consider Sunway for study ACCA.

For those student b4 enter Sunway, they don't know majority of ACCA famous lecturer actually teach in KSA/Mc Orange. Some of the people as you see in lowyat also want the college life like Sunway and don't like the college merely like tuition centre. Due to it, they able to paid higher tuition fees to enjoy college life.

But after enter to Sunway, baru they know actually study in Sunway was nothing special as compare to KSA/Mc Orange.


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post Apr 9 2008, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(VpIc @ Apr 9 2008, 09:51 AM)
Do you really think that they have college life in Sunway? Their classes is so packed if you are taking 4 papers.
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That's why I said lo! B4 they enter Sunway, some of them always thinking college life, want big big library, enjoy the study environment and etc. But after they go in, baru they know nothing special.


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QUOTE(stephanie0721 @ Apr 8 2008, 05:36 PM)
is there any requirement for English in ACCA course? Or anyone can enroll for ACCA as long as one has the will to study?

err..to b frank..my English level is so so indeed..

my teacher suggests me to try self studying instead of signing up for intensive English course..

i wonder if this way really works out..

i hav been studying English during these few months yet i fear all my efforts r in vain..

what should i do now?

i wil b pursuing ACCA course in July..and i m afraid i fail to cope with it since i m kinda weak at English.. sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif
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Don't worry, a lot of student even use broken English to answer exam question, but finally can pass. Examiner will won't fail you b'cos of your poor grammar.

Try to use simple English and short sentence to answer question during exam. As long as marker can understand what are you try to write, then they will give u a marks.

But no matter how, you need to improve your language also not just for exam, but also for your future. Like me, my English not good, so I keep on to improve it lo!



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post Apr 9 2008, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Apr 9 2008, 02:33 PM)
you people seriously anti-sunway, eh. face the facts, if you freaking sucks at studying, no matter what lecturer you get, you'll still bloody fail.

hahaha, yeah, RM10k not worth if for college life for some of you, yeah yeah, I know, why the f*** pay that kind of money for college life eh? Sadly, not everyone is as money minded as you people, and frankly, if you're life is all about attending lecturers, then go back home, I'm not surprised if you don't find it worth it at all.

College life is having a place to study, with people, to have club activities, and mug for exams with friends. If you study at KSA or McO and whatever, and you have that, good for you, but the environment is better, more club activities, more rounded generally at Sunway.

If you people, choose the submit to the limitation of all financial management methods, which is ignoring the issues of motivation, peer support, and all the other intangible things that a proper college environment provides, go ahead.

It's not a matter of cost. For SPM leavers, and those not anxious to work, it's a feeling that we've been in college before and enjoyed it. I'm of the opinion if you wanna bash sunway, for fuxx sake, fuxxing bash your own place first, especially carlosandy.

KSA or McO is a row of shops. It provides ACCA, and does it quite well, I admit. So tell me, why majority of the prizewinners, aren't from there? Good lecturers motivates you pass, very true, but a good environment gives you the push and drive to excel.

Yeah, I guess to some of you, your priorities is to pass, yeah. Go ahead, be content with mediocrity, and I'm sure it'll reflect throughout your future. And your money minded approach will just reflect on your attitude to non-financial performance indicators.

To me, I don't intend to be that money-minded.
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ACCA is external course, difference from degree. We go for class just for tuition, not go to enjoy study life.

Who tell you KSA/MCO no prize winner? They are not like Sunway, they dun want to show off their prize winner. And how many prize winner per paper each sitting? You can go to ask Chan Chee Kang (MCO) or Andrew Pang (KSA) to show their name list. I can 100% promise you that you will see part of the them was your Sunway student also.

I know you are prize winner, but it is means that study in Sunway, everybody also can get prize winner?

If Sunway ACCA really so good, why they still want to spend so much money for strong advertisment? KSA/Mc Orange no need to spend so much money for advertisment, but they still can get so many student for each student, why?


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post Apr 9 2008, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(VpIc @ Apr 9 2008, 03:39 PM)
I will agree with you on this point. the students in sunway is exceptionally good. e.g. 8A1s and above in SPM. Naturally, they tend to be able to understand will in studies which will eventually become prizewinners.
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Good student study where oso can get prize winner.

But how many prize winner for each paper per sitting? Is it everybody study there oso can get prize winner? If not, why not go to good quality lecturer with low tuition fees?

One more thing, SPM can get good result not means ACCA can get good results. Future thing is no body will know.

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post Apr 9 2008, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Apr 9 2008, 04:09 PM)
You people are again sidestepping the point I'm trying to make, simply because you very well know that I'm making a valid point.

Tell me, honestly. McO and KSA got college life or not?
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College life? Do you know wat is ACCA, Sunway student? ACCA is external course, there is no need for group discussion for do any project, why you so worry about college life?

If you feel college life very important., please ask your Sunway student no need to go to KSA/MCO for add tuition. Some paper every sitting full house b'cos of your Sunway student come until we can't get place.

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post Apr 9 2008, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(seline @ Apr 9 2008, 04:38 PM)
is there anyone going to take IRC for paper 7, advanced audit and assurance with Ms Sheila in McOrange??
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Sheila teaching IRC this paper? Then better go lo, I think it is only a good choice for P7 currently.
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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Apr 9 2008, 04:28 PM)
Thank you for your answer, it shows a great deal of your personality.

Just because the subject is tough doesn't mean we can't have a life.
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If want to enjoy College life, why not choose Degree course? It is more easier if compare to ACCA. ACCA is external exam, we go to college just for attend tuition class, not enjoy college life. That's why some Sunway student here also said "Nothing special attend course in Sunway".

Young man, do you know that Choong Kwai Fatt hate Sunway a lot? In the class, he keep on to said why your Sunway student so waste money and go to paid RM4,500 to get OBU?

For me, if your Sunway can provide good quality with reasonable fees, then I will go. Some body ask me Ms Menon good or not, I also agree she is a good ACCA lecturer.

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Apr 9 2008, 04:28 PM)
Thank you for your answer, it shows a great deal of your personality.

Just because the subject is tough doesn't mean we can't have a life. Then again, I'm talking to working, 20+ year old people who probably don't think about having a life and view everything from the cash flow viewpoint only.

Also, you are quick to jump to conclusions, presumptuous, aren't you? I never said they were no prizewinners, reread what I said, MAJORITY.

Your argument of 'we go for tuition, not to enjoy study life' falls flat on it's face when you are talking to 17-22 year old students, because frankly, if we're gonna study, might as well have fun while doing it. Yes, your argument holds when you're dealing with working people, who have different priorities. Otherwise, it's just pointless.

And what does having advertisement have to do with the quality of college and the environment? Are you implying that just because Toyota advertises, it's a lousy car? It's totally not a relevant argument.
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I dun agree on this. Why KSA/Mc Orange less advertisment, but can have so many student?

Talk back about prize winner. You not answer question yet, it is everybody in Sunway oso can get prize winner?

You want to enjoy study life is up to you, none of my biz. But since some student asking about ACCA course, I just give my comment about ACCA tuition provider.

You are right, For me, I will look at the cash flow, b'cos I'm part time student. I asking you one quetion, without money, how to enjoy life?RM4,500 to buy OBU is waste of money. 钱虽然不是万能,但无钱就万万不能!


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QUOTE(coolkid23 @ Apr 9 2008, 05:02 PM)
For me.. i do believe an expensive thing will have its value. It is valuable. It is not merely a white elephant. Why SUNWAY is much more expensive as compared to KSA, McO.. It should have much invisible and intangible goodwills or qualities behind which only those students there will know. Such as Competitive College Life, College environment, the study culture and customs....
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If you really belief on this, go a head for Sunway.

And please don't waste your time to asking the question regarding ACCA course in KL College, cos KL college cheaper fees, sure the value less than Sunway as per your means. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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post Apr 9 2008, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Apr 9 2008, 04:58 PM)
You're repeating your arguments. OBU yes, I agree it's very expensive. On everything else, I feel it's very reasonable.

You seem to have the mindset that just because it's ACCA, we can't have study life. Whoever said that? Just because it's an external exam, we're suddenly supposed NOT to have fun? Who say one?

I'm not asking you to come sunway, I'm just terribly sick of you going around bashing Sunway like you've studied there before and think it's bloody terrible.

(also you didn't read my entire last post)
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Ok, I agree your point. May be study life is important for those full student.

But study in Sunway to enjoy the study life and after feel lecturer not so good, finally go for add tuition. Do you think this is very waste?
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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Apr 9 2008, 05:17 PM)
Again, you're making quite a few bad comparisons here.

1. More students, good quality? If so, I'm sure all the public unis are very good.

2. No. Not everyone can get prize, but the environment makes a person want to strive to score. That is why Sunway gets more prizewinners, despite having lousier lecturers.

3. The OBU question, the post above I answered. You clearly did not read everything. Yes, if you want me to repeat, yes, it is expensive. Otherwise, the fee is very reasonable.

4. Money can always earn later, not always now. Youth is now, lose it, won't come back.

5. Also, you say KSA/McOrange alot of students, statistically this means they should have alot of prizewinners too! So tell me, despite so many students (higher probability), and good lecturers, why not as many prizewinners?

6. I aim my arguments towards school leavers, who desire a more balanced life unlike part timers a.k.a you.
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1. If the lecturer no quality, less student will go. For eg, SEGi ACCA less student (except for Kwai Fatt)

2. Sunway got prize winner b'cos of student hardworking, not study environment. Some more, part of them will go to KSA/MCO for add tuition or revision class.

3. Up to you, money is from your pocket. None of my biz.

4. I think you never know how difficult to earn money in commercial.

5. Who tell you KSA/MCO less prize winner? Please check with Andrew Pang or Chan Chee Kang.

6. I never said ACCA student can't enjoy study life, just paid too much, 值得吗?


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post Apr 9 2008, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Apr 9 2008, 05:24 PM)
Yes, go for good lectuers, and pass, and realize 10 years down the road you've wasted your youth. Fantastic proposition, isn't it?
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Who tell you ten years? A lot of KSA/MCO full time student just 2 1/2 years to finish ACCA.

I dun want to argue with you anymore, since we are also difference view point. No point just argue like that. OK? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Apr 9 2008, 05:40 PM)
1. Can't it be that because cheap, people go? People buy proton not because good, but because cheap. By the same argument, Sunway also a lot ppl wat, total ACCA/CAT population 1.8k, but more expensive, still people go, why leh?

2. Hahaha, i know more sunway prizewinners than you, my dear. None of them (that I know of) went to KSA/MCO

3. True.

4. Hahaha, yeah, and I think I didn't tell you how more difficult it is to be young.

5. Yeah yeah, how many? ACCA got 16 papers, why 6-8 malaysian prizes always Sunway one leh?

6. Nothing comes free in the world. You want study life, for 10k more over 3 years (4k per year, why not la)
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Give the answer like that, I think you never know what is money.

Waste time to argue with ppl like that.

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QUOTE(coolkid23 @ Apr 9 2008, 06:19 PM)
if there is NO barrier of tuition fees...
which college will u choose?
Based on ur conscience..answer me...
20k, 30k.. is not a big amount if compared to those students who go oversea.
everything has pros and cons.. if u in favor of which side more.. then go ahead...
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Already give you a lot of advise, what you want to consider, young man?

If you want good quality lecturer, then come to KL college - MCO/KSA/SEGI/Kolej Bandar/FTMS.

If you want college life, then you better go to Sunway lo!
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QUOTE(coolkid23 @ Apr 10 2008, 01:08 AM)
Everyone is giving subjective opinion.
Well, EdgarNg, as a sunway student, you rebutted what did Thanatos point of view, and support Carlosandy apparently.
It's quite ridiculous. If KSA is so called "better off", why u study in Sunway?
Everyone is giving subjective opinion, but u are the exception. 

For the grandchildren is just an example.
For my example, my sisters are in university...
University life is so attractive as she mentioned.
They are having university life...
This is differ from SPM or STPM.
This is the happy and enjoyable moment which can be only found in University.
After that, you will come out for practical or work..
U cannot enjoy these life anymore.
No doubt, KSA could have college life as well. It is based on personal presumption.
Attending class can be a happy act if u think it is fit for your purpose.
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Young man, do you know you keep on to repeat same question? If waste time like that, why not go yourself direct to KSA or Sunway to look how their class and how many student per sitting?

If you think just with college life is sufficient and dun need quality lecturer help, then go ahead to Sunway. Don't think about quality lecturer again. After enter Sunway, if you feel some of the lecturer can't give you a good exam technique to pass, then go to KSA/MCO for add tuition or attend revision class since cash flow won't be your problem.

As per your mentioned, you like college life, so just treat KSA/MCO as ACCA tuition centre if you want to go there for add tuition or attend revision class. Do like this, you can repeat what you do during SPM time and enjoy your college life.

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QUOTE(florencensm @ Apr 10 2008, 01:16 PM)
Who r philp woo p1 student last sitting? just want to ask how ur study this paper. read manual or just lec notes?
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Normally we read his notes + articles + code + practices question, then will be sufficient for exam. Text book just for add reference if can't understand.
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post Apr 10 2008, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(Re3ken @ Apr 10 2008, 01:57 PM)
i was his student last sitting...
i strongly suggest u read everything because P1 is a brand new paper starting last sitting,therefore there will be lesser study material available to student to refer...so read whatever  the lecturer provide will give u an added advantage to face the exam more confidently


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last sitting the college didn't provide any text book for the student
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Ya, I know, I'm his last sitting student oso. What I mean was even they have text book, normally will use for add reference cos if read text book, very hard to finish it, expecially for part time student.
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QUOTE(jepertine90 @ Apr 16 2008, 04:07 PM)
erm... i got a question for those current ACCA/CIMA students... i'm in 2nd year which is the last semester for the Diploma in Accountancy (DIA)(in SEGI A.K.A Systematic)... i just wondering after i finish my DIA... can i join the part 2 ACCA in sunway college??? well this questing is mostly for those sunway's student XD... and i heard that after graduate in sunway college they will offer a place in BIG4... can some1 conform this .... THX
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Young man, study in Sunway not neccesary means that you got good chance to joint BIG 4!

I got a Sunway friend after grad ACCA go to apply BIG 4 but fail to get it. After he work for 1 year +, he apply again, then baru BIG 4 accept him.

So don't just look at this reason to choose college for Study ACCA.

Depend on what you want. If you feel that you want to enjoy college life for study ACCA, then go ahead to Sunway study ACCA.

But I can tell you that, some Sunway student go to KL college for add tuition or revision class due the inexperince ACCA lecturer in Sunway. So if you want good quality lecturer, then go ahead to KL college.


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QUOTE(babylck @ Apr 15 2008, 10:27 PM)
hey guys..
wanna ask opinion from all of u..
which lecture is good at teaching P3..
coz im thinking to attend intensive revision class for p3..
thanks in advance! =)
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P3 go to Parmindar Singh at KSA. He is very good in teaching both business model and IT/IS topic. If you never joint any P3 normal class before, then I advise you go to attend his Revision Intensive and Revision Express class.

If you truely want to go, then please go to register fast to avoid full house, cos I understand his normal class + revision class student already more than 220 students.

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