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post Dec 7 2007, 07:03 PM, updated 18y ago

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Had second thoughts about opening this thread. But anyways.. You are most welcomed to refer me to another site, thread, etc. just help me out

First of all, I am new to the Xbox 360 gaming scene.

Second of all, I have not received my Xbox 360 Elite from Gamers Hideout. It seems they called me when they had stock but I didn't pickup the phone, hence they put me on the next waiting list batch; due in January 08. sad.gif

Third of all, I am looking for an LCD display for my Xbox 360. I have a Dell 19" display that supports upto 1280x1024. Non-widescreen. The problem is, I want something that supports upto 1920x1080.

I have the Dell 2707WFP on my mind... RM2,999 sad.gif . But that's fine, if I can pay my dad instalment every 12 months since I'm buying the console with my hard-earned student money.
http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/c...dhs1&l=en&s=dhs

Fourth of all, what does this mean?
Analog, DVI-D (Digital) with HDCP, S-Video, Composite, Component, Integrated 9-in-2 media card reader/slots, Universal Serial Bus (USB) 2.0 Ports, Kensington security port.
Does it have HDMI (for use with the Xbox 360 Elite) ?

Or any other LCD display that you could recommend me? Budget, well, err...just let me know what you think I should get.
Or just stick with my 19" display?

Help me out while I still have time.

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post Dec 7 2007, 08:05 PM

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2999 guess if I'm u.. i got 32" LCD 720p

btw y u wanan get 1020p?

IMO u shd save up just use ur current LCD
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post Dec 7 2007, 08:42 PM

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I have Dell E228WFP and it has DVI-D(HDCP) .that means u can plug in HDMI(for Elite and new Premium console) to ur monitor using DVI to HDMI (u can get it from lowyat or order from play-asia)adapter...
-currently i just use VGA cable, so no hassle

anyway good luck to you..
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post Dec 7 2007, 08:49 PM

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saw philip lcd tv 40" fully hd around 6.9k hehehehe... icon_rolleyes.gif so cheap these day... hmm.gif
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post Dec 7 2007, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(Microsuck_360 @ Dec 7 2007, 08:49 PM)
saw philip lcd tv 40" fully hd around 6.9k hehehehe... icon_rolleyes.gif so cheap these day... hmm.gif
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RM6,900 huh... hmm... hmm.gif
Definitely not for me.

Perhaps RM3,200 and below... so the typical PC LCD displays should do the trick


Added on December 7, 2007, 9:16 pm
QUOTE(DarkSaviour @ Dec 7 2007, 08:05 PM)
2999 guess if I'm u.. i got 32" LCD 720p

btw y u wanan get 1020p?

IMO u shd save up just use ur current LCD
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Why I want to get 1020p ? It's 1080p (1920x1080 resolution). Games like... (checks)... err... Halo 3 and Pro Street support 1080p. What a waste to play it on 1280x720 resolution (720p)...




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post Dec 7 2007, 09:19 PM

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i didnt see any difference on the elite even using HDMI or VGA on a same screen...btw if u try getting that 27" dell, Get on PC fair..cheaper.. smile.gif
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post Dec 7 2007, 09:29 PM

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correct me if I'm wrong

not much game goes up to 1080p..

and halo 3 not 1080p smile.gif

seriously i prefer bigger LCD TV hmmm 32"? and some good speakers smile.gif

but it's ur moo man...

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post Dec 7 2007, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(ImSIEBEL @ Dec 7 2007, 09:19 PM)
i didnt see any difference on the elite even using HDMI or VGA on a same screen...btw if u try getting that 27" dell, Get on PC fair..cheaper.. smile.gif
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Really? Do you know any sort of price I am to expect? RM2800 perhaps? On the Dell website, they're having a PC Fair promotion until 10 December on the 27" display.

I heard going HDMI to DVI (digital to digital) gives no loss of quality.
But HDMI to VGA (digital to analog) will result in loss of quality. Not noticeable, but yeah, it exists to the sharp eyes.


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QUOTE(DarkSaviour @ Dec 7 2007, 09:29 PM)
correct me if I'm wrong

not much game goes up to 1080p..

and halo 3 not 1080p smile.gif

seriously i prefer bigger LCD TV hmmm 32"? and some good speakers smile.gif

but it's ur moo man...
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Noticed you just edited smile.gif . Anyway, behind the box of my "un-opened" and "purchased just hours ago" Halo 3 and NFS Pro Street, it states 480p, 720p and 1080p.
That's 640x480, 1280x720 and (the one I want) 1920x1080 resolutions.

If no games support 1080p, why would the Xbox 360 Elite support 1080p? I am not too sure, its on the game box though...

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post Dec 7 2007, 09:35 PM

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did u check out dell's 24" entry flat panel, that's around 1.5k, supports VGA and DVI only... i dont know whether it support 1:1 pixel mapping or not...

*edit: it's rm1,259 today, goto www.dell.com.my

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post Dec 7 2007, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(hikaru_x @ Dec 7 2007, 09:35 PM)
did u check out dell's 24" entry flat panel, that's around 1.5k, supports VGA and DVI only... i dont know whether it support 1:1 pixel mapping or not, check the website for more info lah..
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Dell E248WFP 24" Widescreen Flat Panel LCD Monitor

Just checked. It does support 1920x1200, that supports 1080p. But its non-UltraSharp... I know what it is like to have no UltraSharp...

Interface is Analog, DVI-D (Digital) with HDCP

And yeah its RM1,259. Fits the bill. If I do get this, I might be able to squeeze in GTA4 next year...

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post Dec 7 2007, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 7 2007, 09:38 PM)
Dell E248WFP 24" Widescreen Flat Panel LCD Monitor

Just checked. It does support 1920x1200, that supports 1080p. But its non-UltraSharp... I know what it is like to have no UltraSharp...

Interface is Analog, DVI-D (Digital) with HDCP

And yeah its RM1,259. Fits the bill. If I do get this, I might be able to squeeze in GTA4 next year...
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im using a non-ultrasharp 20" dell monitor... and no, it doesn't kill me... can't have everything when ur on a budget wink.gif
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post Dec 7 2007, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(hikaru_x @ Dec 7 2007, 09:45 PM)
im using a non-ultrasharp 20" dell monitor... and no, it doesn't kill me... can't have everything when ur on a budget  wink.gif
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I own a Dell PC, one with ultrasharp, another without (now using for my dad's PC). The difference in color production, sharpness and contrast is quite big. If I were to get a Dell display for my Xbox 360, it would definitely be UltraSharp... if its Dell..

What is the maximum reso of your display?

Checkout this dude... 2407 WFP (not 2707 WFP)


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post Dec 7 2007, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 7 2007, 09:47 PM)
I own a Dell PC, one with ultrasharp, another without (now using for my dad's PC). The difference in color production, sharpness and contrast is quite big. If I were to get a Dell display for my Xbox 360, it would definitely be UltraSharp... if its Dell..

What is the maximum reso of your display?
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im using the entry 20", 1680x1050, used to play my 360 on it. i know got difference, i've seen them side by side (most obvious is the black level)... i buy alot of dell LCDs for the engineering dept (CAD) in where i used to work... many people would disagree with me on this: i can neglect the differences between ultra-sharp & non-u.sharp coz the difference is like rm1000, which i would rather spend on something else if im on a tight budget
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post Dec 7 2007, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(hikaru_x @ Dec 7 2007, 09:54 PM)
im using the entry 20", 1680x1050, used to play my 360 on it. i know got difference, i've seen them side by side (most obvious is the black level)... i buy alot of dell LCDs for the engineering dept (CAD) in where i used to work... many people would disagree with me on this: i can neglect the differences between ultra-sharp & non-u.sharp coz the difference is like rm1000, which i would rather spend on something else if im on a tight budget
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1680x1050... hmm... hmm.gif I really really want 1920x1080... Guess the 24" Dell is the lowest I can get that supports that resolution.

Yeah, the difference is nearly RM1k but I think its worth it when you're a gamer. But it isn't worth it when you're on a budget, good point. But its fine as long as its below RM3k...
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can i masuk campur and ask what's the CHEAPEST hdtv around? i don't really want a super-big size one, cos i only want to play it in my room (which is quite small) i just want an HD enabled tv for my precious little 360, that's all.
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post Dec 7 2007, 11:01 PM

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Either you get a 22 " or 24 "

Your still a student.

For me I'm using 22" which im using vga cable with 720p which is good eenough.

The cheapest way.
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post Dec 7 2007, 11:13 PM

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student's budget?

can get a BenQ FP94VW. around RM700, supports VGA, DVI and HDMI. native resolution is 1440*900 but 1080p signal is accepted.
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post Dec 7 2007, 11:54 PM

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Well, if you can stretch your budget just a bit, Benq has been selling 24" LCD monitors that are 1080P ready for a while now. They always rotate their model, so prices will vary. I bought my Benq FP241VW from Lowyat for RM2198 not too long ago. Still within your budget at least. I think Viewnet is still selling this same model. Look up the specs here :

http://benq.com/products/LCD/?product=997&page=features




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QUOTE(acougan @ Dec 7 2007, 11:13 PM)
student's budget?

can get a BenQ FP94VW. around RM700, supports VGA, DVI and HDMI. native resolution is 1440*900 but 1080p signal is accepted.
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sorry for being such a noob, but what's DVI? RM700 sounds really good though.

and can i achieve HD quality by just plugging in the boxed component cables into an HDTV and just switching the cables to HD setting? or do i have to buy a special HD cables?

btw, my budget should be around 1000+, definitely not more than 2000. even 1500 for me is quite stretching it.
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post Dec 8 2007, 01:11 AM

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Since you're willing to pay RM3K, might as well go with HDTV.
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post Dec 8 2007, 02:13 AM

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QUOTE(tripleB @ Dec 7 2007, 11:54 PM)
Well, if you can stretch your budget just a bit, Benq has been selling 24" LCD monitors that are 1080P ready for a while now. They always rotate their model, so prices will vary. I bought my Benq FP241VW from Lowyat for RM2198 not too long ago. Still within your budget at least. I think Viewnet is still selling this same model. Look up the specs here :

http://benq.com/products/LCD/?product=997&page=features
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That's amazing, 24" at RM2198... (if I add RM800 more, its 27" Dell). You think its worth it?


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QUOTE(Voxe @ Dec 8 2007, 01:11 AM)
Since you're willing to pay RM3K, might as well go with HDTV.
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Nay... i've seen the difference between HDTV and LCD display. I really prefer LCD display especially those for PC.



*Edit : Dell is having PC Fair promotion on the 27", less RM1,100... meaning normal price around RM3,800 (now RM2,999). What do you think? Offer ends 10 December 2007... oh oh

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post Dec 8 2007, 02:35 AM

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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 02:13 AM)
That's amazing, 24" at RM2198... (if I add RM800 more, its 27" Dell). You think its worth it?


Added on December 8, 2007, 2:17 am
Nay... i've seen the difference between HDTV and LCD display. I really prefer LCD display especially those for PC.
*Edit : Dell is having PC Fair promotion on the 27", less RM1,100... meaning normal price around RM3,800 (now RM2,999). What do you think? Offer ends 10 December 2007... oh oh
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There is LCD HDTV and HDTV comes with built-in speaker and also looks sleeker.
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guys..

at 24 inch with full 1080P

can you really tell a different if you set on 720P native resolution?
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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Dec 8 2007, 04:01 AM)
guys..

at 24 inch with full 1080P

can you really tell a different if you set on 720P native resolution?
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lol.....i was going to say the same thing too...right on the spot...
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post Dec 8 2007, 05:13 AM

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dude, been pouring over reviews of the 24" BenQ and 27" Dell, the downside to the BenQ is that it lacks connection while the Dell is due to price...

And guess what, 10/12/2007 is when the offer ends and only tomorrow Saturday is Dell open...

can u guys recommend me then full 1080p HDTV that cost less than RM3k ??

if not i'm getting the 1920x1200 reso Dell 27"

ps : i thought Dell had 30" too ?
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post Dec 8 2007, 05:17 AM

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Believe it or not, I do think that a full HD monitor makes quite a difference. You'll have to scrutinize a bit to look for differences, but it's there. It has nothing to do with gloating whether the monitor is 1080P or not. PC gamers have been enjoying the higher resolutions for years, so is that to say that a PC game running at 1920x1200 is no different from a PC game running at 1280x1024?
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QUOTE(tripleB @ Dec 8 2007, 05:17 AM)
Believe it or not, I do think that a full HD monitor makes quite a difference. You'll have to scrutinize a bit to look for differences, but it's there. It has nothing to do with gloating whether the monitor is 1080P or not. PC gamers have been enjoying the higher resolutions for years, so is that to say that a PC game running at 1920x1200 is no different from a PC game running at 1280x1024?
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technical specs it does

but does the eye tell the different ?

for a 24 inch monitor, by looking 20 inch away from the monitor I can tell,

the eyes really can't tell the different from a 720P and 1080P

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post Dec 8 2007, 05:23 AM

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What kind of connection do you mean? The Benq is quite versatile, as it has pretty much all types of video connection: composite, component, S-Video, D-sub, DVI, and HDMI. In fact, it is actually the 27" that's lacking: no HDMI input.
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QUOTE(tripleB @ Dec 8 2007, 05:23 AM)
What kind of connection do you mean? The Benq is quite versatile, as it has pretty much all types of video connection: composite, component, S-Video, D-sub, DVI, and HDMI. In fact, it is actually the 27" that's lacking: no HDMI input.
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lets put it at HDMI.

both comparison side by side.

One with 1080P the other at 720P
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Dude, it's a monitor. It's kind of expected that you'll sit nearer to the monitor. At normal PC viewing distances, you do appreciate the subtle improvements 1080P brings to gaming. You won't play a PC game from the couch at a distance of 5ft or more. Specs are there to inform the user, not to brag about. Of course in the end, it's up to the viewer to decide whether the added cost is worth it or not.
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post Dec 8 2007, 05:43 AM

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QUOTE(tripleB @ Dec 8 2007, 05:23 AM)
What kind of connection do you mean? The Benq is quite versatile, as it has pretty much all types of video connection: composite, component, S-Video, D-sub, DVI, and HDMI. In fact, it is actually the 27" that's lacking: no HDMI input.
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oh...got mixed up there, its so late at night... its the Dell that lacks HDMI connection.

the review at http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2006/11/07/Benq_FP241W/1
and http://www.trustedreviews.com/displays/rev...reen-Monitor/p1

give the BenQ display the best possible scores.


now it comes down to this (since both BenQ and Dell support 1080p)...

24 inch VS 27 inch...
does it make a world of difference in gaming? I dun want to get the display and then say to myself "damn, I should have gotten the other..." u know wat I mean

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*Edit : I seriously got my eyes on the 2707WFP vs. BenQ FP241W... the RM1,100 price reduction for the Dell is irresistable (saw it a few days ago and it was well above RM3k)


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ok guys... let ask urself one simple and nice question...
wat is ur space and distance that you sit from ur console???

with LCD monitor you have to sit near la of course...
but if you get a LCD TV that is a difference...
LCd monitor is nice for individual gaming... *at least for me la...
if you wanna play multi player i would like to get bigger screens like LCD TV...
cos really la... like wat Djiin say.. hard to differentiate it by side by side...
although you might spots some difference...
but is the distance that you play ur console that's the main factor....
you wanna sit near and squeeze at ur com table or console table or...
sit nicely on sofa and relax to play with others multiplayer... wink.gif
I would choose LCD TV... cos can use multi purpose...
no need to sit near...cos office life is more than enough...
no need 24 hours also sit near to this kinda display device... spoil ur eyes..
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post Dec 8 2007, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 02:13 AM)
That's amazing, 24" at RM2198... (if I add RM800 more, its 27" Dell). You think its worth it?


Added on December 8, 2007, 2:17 am
Nay... i've seen the difference between HDTV and LCD display. I really prefer LCD display especially those for PC.
*Edit : Dell is having PC Fair promotion on the 27", less RM1,100... meaning normal price around RM3,800 (now RM2,999). What do you think? Offer ends 10 December 2007... oh oh
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The distance is important.

If you are sitting far from this display, you compare a lcd and a lcd hdtv is a lot of difference.


QUOTE(Voxe @ Dec 8 2007, 02:35 AM)
There is LCD HDTV and HDTV comes with built-in speaker and also looks sleeker.
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I taught that is plasma tv? LCD got speaker with it?

QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 05:43 AM)
oh...got mixed up there, its so late at night... its the Dell that lacks HDMI connection.

the review at http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2006/11/07/Benq_FP241W/1
and http://www.trustedreviews.com/displays/rev...reen-Monitor/p1

give the BenQ display the best possible scores.
now it comes down to this (since both BenQ and Dell support 1080p)...

24 inch VS 27 inch...
does it make a world of difference in gaming? I dun want to get the display and then say to myself "damn, I should have gotten the other..." u know wat I mean

user posted imageuser posted image
*Edit : I seriously got my eyes on the 2707WFP vs. BenQ FP241W... the RM1,100 price reduction for the Dell is irresistable (saw it a few days ago and it was well above RM3k)
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You either get 24 or 22"

You should consider because it will stay with you for quite sometime before you change. And you still a student.

If you are going 27" , y not just go for for a HDTV with a bigger "

QUOTE(michael9413 @ Dec 8 2007, 08:22 AM)
ok guys... let ask urself one simple and nice question...
wat is ur space and distance that you sit from ur console???

with LCD monitor you have to sit near la of course...
but if you get a LCD TV that is a difference...
LCd monitor is nice for individual gaming... *at least for me la...
if you wanna play multi player i would like to get bigger screens like LCD TV...
cos really la... like wat Djiin say.. hard to differentiate it by side by side...
although you might spots some difference...
but is the distance that you play ur console that's the main factor....
you wanna sit near and squeeze at ur com table or console table or...
sit nicely on sofa and relax to play with others multiplayer... wink.gif
I would choose LCD TV... cos can use multi purpose...
no need to sit near...cos office life is more than enough...
no need 24 hours also sit near to this kinda display device... spoil ur eyes..
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Yup.

Sitting distance make s different. Compare a sitting a 24 " monitor and a Sony bravia 32" same distance in the hall.

You will notice the huge different with 1080p.

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if i were to have 3.2k to splurge on monitors for the xbox360.. i die die also will go for a 32" lcd tv.. it offers more viewing space.. and also great for movies.. and seriously.. people have been debating on the difference between a 720P 40" lcd and the 1080P 40" lcd tv.. i doubt that there's a difference to the human eyes..

and i strongly suggest u get a 32" lcd tv for your xbox360 with that kinda budget.. you'll never go back to smaller screens after that.. laugh.gif

i'm so used to my 32" back in KL.. and now i have to game on a 29" crt.. don't even have the mood to play anymore..

yes.. it's THAT bad sad.gif
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there is a huge difference la... cos 40" is huge... with the 720p or 1080p...
you can see the difference...
the viewing distance is the difference.. smile.gif at the same distance 1080p will show more detail...
once you are use to LCD or monitor... then you can get back to normal TV life with xbox 360... smile.gif
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y u wan to watch porno can see the hair so real?

LOL... for me 720p enough... and yet.. big LCD will be good enough...


BTW xbox 360 go ahead and buy if u oredi made the decision...


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post Dec 8 2007, 10:20 AM

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I'm using a 22" widescreen lcd monitor. I'm still in college so I'm fine with 720p for now. At least is the cheapest way of getting HD rclxms.gif

QUOTE(DarkSaviour @ Dec 8 2007, 09:39 AM)
y u wan to watch porno can see the hair so real?

LOL... for me 720p enough... and yet.. big LCD will be good enough...
BTW xbox 360 go ahead and buy if u oredi made the decision...
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LOL. notworthy.gif

I think now with the dvix, everybody dl from net and stream towards the Xbox 360 since monitor so small ( if you monitor is small )
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post Dec 8 2007, 10:42 AM

 

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For the uninitiated and newbs:

There are very few 360 titles that actually have TRUE 1080p resolution, or even 720p for that matter.

Halo 3 for example, doesn't even have 720p, let alone 1080p.

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/14676/Bungie...Natively-in-HD/


and here's an extensive list of titles, new and old, that don't have 720p either (hence in my books, not actual HD games)
http://www.gamebrink.com/blog/2007/11/15/m...let-alone-1080p


That being said, I'm a proud owner of a Dell 2407 and let me say I'm still very happy and content with my purchase.

It plays the 360 well, and serves as an awesome PC monitor.

However, if you're going to spend RM3k on a display, and you will use it solely for gaming, I would recommend a 32" LCD TV instead.

The extra real estate and vivid colours will definitely fulfill your requirements.

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thx gurdian for posting up it..

I'm too lazy to google it....
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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Dec 8 2007, 04:01 AM)
guys..

at 24 inch with full 1080P

can you really tell a different if you set on 720P native resolution?
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QUOTE(silencer @ Dec 8 2007, 04:56 AM)
lol.....i was going to say the same thing too...right on the spot...
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Yes, i can even tell it's at 720p even just at a glance. Last time when i play Lost Planet, the box says 1080p support but when i play thru, i can clearly see it's nothing more than just upscaled from 720p. But when i tried Virtua Tennis 3 in 1080p, the difference is quite obvious. nod.gif Still, if you're planning to use it only to play games on the 360 and not sharing with a PC, i'd still recommend getting an lcdtv instead. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Lai lor come get from me DELL's LCD tongue.gif
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post Dec 8 2007, 02:15 PM

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About to hit the "Buy" button on the Dell 27".... guys... but I know this IS what I want

RM2,999.... sweat.gif

I negotiate with my dad + mom, they're willing to help me to pay for 12 months...
RM100 from me while RM150 from them....

What do you guys think... I am not around on Monday and the RM1,100 less offer ends Monday !!!


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QUOTE(tripleB @ Dec 8 2007, 05:37 AM)
Dude, it's a monitor. It's kind of expected that you'll sit nearer to the monitor. At normal PC viewing distances, you do appreciate the subtle improvements 1080P brings to gaming. You won't play a PC game from the couch at a distance of 5ft or more. Specs are there to inform the user, not to brag about. Of course in the end, it's up to the viewer to decide whether the added cost is worth it or not.
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thats why I ask, Not to Brag here bro. Cause I really need a demo for 1080P for my own eye. From others customer I have I ask them they told me no different.

QUOTE(michael9413 @ Dec 8 2007, 08:22 AM)
ok guys... let ask urself one simple and nice question...
wat is ur space and distance that you sit from ur console???

with LCD monitor you have to sit near la of course...
but if you get a LCD TV that is a difference...
LCd monitor is nice for individual gaming... *at least for me la...
if you wanna play multi player i would like to get bigger screens like LCD TV...
cos really la... like wat Djiin say.. hard to differentiate it by side by side...
although you might spots some difference...
but is the distance that you play ur console that's the main factor....
you wanna sit near and squeeze at ur com table or console table or...
sit nicely on sofa and relax to play with others multiplayer... wink.gif
I would choose LCD TV... cos can use multi purpose...
no need to sit near...cos office life is more than enough...
no need 24 hours also sit near to this kinda display device... spoil ur eyes..
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Yup. LCD TV !

QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Dec 8 2007, 12:28 PM)
Yes, i can even tell it's at 720p even just at a glance. Last time when i play Lost Planet, the box says 1080p support but when i play thru, i can clearly see it's nothing more than just upscaled from 720p. But when i tried Virtua Tennis 3 in 1080p, the difference is quite obvious.  nod.gif Still, if you're planning to use it only to play games on the 360 and not sharing with a PC, i'd still recommend getting an lcdtv instead.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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so there is a different, But based on games ? upscales doesn't see much different but a true 1080P games does.

so all depends on games. But how can you know if is a full 1080P.

mostly all xbox 360 printed 1080P does support. sigh~
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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 02:15 PM)
About to hit the "Buy" button on the Dell 27".... guys... but I know this IS what I want

RM2,999....  sweat.gif

I negotiate with my dad + mom, they're willing to help me to pay for 12 months...
RM100 from me while RM150 from them....

What do you guys think... I am not around on Monday and the RM1,100 less offer ends Monday !!!
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compared to the Dell 24", RM 2,299

you're paying Rm700 more for a mere 3"

compared to the Benq g2400w 24" + HDMI, Rm1759

you're paying RM1240 more for a mere 3"


Now consider these:

I just ripped them from the Senq website just for you

user posted image
user posted image

For RM300/RM200 LESS, you get 5 inches more

For the SAME PRICE, you get 5 inches more AND a HDMI DVD player




Please think about it hard. Really hard.

If you were like me, when years ago the only option I had was a RM2900 Dell 2407 (Cuz LCD TVs were still expensive then), then I would understand if you opted for the 2707.

But you have many more options now in terms of 24" lcd monitors that are equally good, if not better, and prices have dropped significantly for LCD Tvs


So call your mom+dad, tell them to read my post, and then only decide.

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after much discussion with my parents and me and on HDTV, LCD display and "why-dont-you-just-used-your-old-display"... I finally have ordered it.
27" Dell 2707WFP 1920x1200 display. sweat.gif

The guys at Gamers Hideout themselves said to me, I can get even a 32" HDTV lesser price than the Dell display. But I stressed them that full HD capable HDTVs are much more expensive than the Dell display. And they agreed. The thing is they said, the Dell display does not have HDMI and its 27".

My point is, this is what I want : Full HD at 27"

This is what "most of you are recommending me" : Non Full HD HDTVs at 32" or larger [which I do understand is much cheaper compared last time]


This is the problem : Full HD HDTVs are "still relatively expensive", they're like what RM3,500 + ??

This is what I think the solution is : Even though 27" vs 32" is like 5 huge freakin inches of difference, I get full HD at a

With price in mind (and quality fortunately in my case), the Dell fits me perfectly. I was told the upcoming 30" Dell 2560x1600 (with HDMI) would cost me around RM4,500 to RM5,000+. That's ridiculous.
The fact that I "do have" full HD and its large at 27" AND it fits the bill at RM2,999, it would be my pick.






Keep those feedback coming, I am told my order can still be "put on hold" on Monday.



Help. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
ps : I have never seen a HDTV, never compared LCD vs. HDTV, but I know 100% how it feels to have 1920x1080 resolution on a LCD PC display.



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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 03:16 PM)
after much discussion with my parents and me and on HDTV, LCD display and "why-dont-you-just-used-your-old-display"... I finally have ordered it.
27" Dell 2707WFP 1920x1200 display.  sweat.gif

The guys at Gamers Hideout themselves said to me, I can get even a 32" HDTV lesser price than the Dell display. But I stressed them that full HD capable HDTVs are much more expensive than the Dell display. And they agreed. The thing is they said, the Dell display does not have HDMI and its 27".

My point is, this is what I want : Full HD at 27"

This is what "most of you are recommending me" : Non Full HD  HDTVs at 32" or larger [which I do understand is much cheaper compared last time]


This is the problem : Full HD  HDTVs are "still relatively expensive", they're like what RM3,500 + ??

This is what I think the solution is : Even though 27" vs 32" is like 5 huge freakin inches of difference, I get full HD at a

With price in mind (and quality fortunately in my case), the Dell fits me perfectly. I was told the upcoming 30" Dell 2560x1600 (with HDMI) would cost me around RM4,500 to RM5,000+. That's ridiculous.
The fact that I "do have" full HD and its large at 27" AND it fits the bill at RM2,999, it would be my pick.
Keep those feedback coming, I am told my order can still be "put on hold" on Monday.
Help.  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
ps : I have never seen a HDTV, never compared LCD vs. HDTV, but I know 100% how it feels to have 1920x1080 resolution on a LCD PC display.
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Er? We Agree ?
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Ok since you've settled with a non HDMI LCD , why would you still opting for the elite . If the budget does constraint , I don't really see a point in it .

IIRC , most games are upscaled only and Halo3 native is at 640p . IMO full HD is a joke at smaller display . unsure.gif

P/s : The Dell LCD if used on PC sure helluva awesome though . tongue.gif

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any LCD TV below 40inch with Full HD... you can hardly see the difference la...R7 was one of the best LCD TVs...you can go up to 720p and that is enough imo.

if you planning to taste the Full HD feature...get a 40 inch above

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Xbox 360, don't need to PM me about this. We can talk about it here. It's not like you're confessing your feelings to me so don't be shy.


QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 03:16 PM)
Coz I'm new and since I did hit the "order button" on the Dell website, you're saying I'm better off buying HDTV (that is not full HD) compared to buying a full HD capable LCD display?

QUOTE(Gurdian 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 03:16 PM)

I'm a Dell 2407 user, and playing games like Halo 3 and COD 4 doesn't look any nicer on a 1920x1200 screen cuz they're all not 1080p or 720p. They're simply upscaled.

IMO, after using the 2407 for years, and looking at others and their 32" LCD TVs, you'd have a more fulfilling experience with a larger more vivid screen.


But you've already hit the ORDER button due to you impatience and fanboy-ism. So there's nothing much to talk bout anymore
Fanboy-ism? Of what??! I am so freakin new here, there nothing to be a fan of... The only reason I ordered so fast is because the offer ends Monday. Have some pity on me, I am new here... sweat.gif

Oh not to worry, my order can be "put on hold" on Monday. Furthermore processing will take longer coz' Tuesday not everyone is working.


Anyways, what if in the future, there are 1080p (full HD) capable games?


Another question, what is the price range of a full HD 1080p HDTV ?
To your first question:

Did you even read my previous posts? Click on the links and read.

There are already 1080p games. But they're only a small handful and most of the major titles are still doing their upscaling trick.

Most native 1080p games now are usually games that don't tax the CPU/GPU of the 360 much, so developers can afford to up the reso to 1920x1080.

Developers like Bungie give some dingdong excuse that they want gamers to have a more 'realistic blabla yadayada experience' so they have to lower to 640p and give more bling effects. But the brutal truth is Halo 3 would be crawling on your screen if they gave it native 1080p.

Your only chance of the next uber game with fancy effects, crazy lighting and graphical coolness to have native 1080p is when developers/programmers suddenly learned how to code better or that the Xbox 360 got a CPU/GPU upgrade.

It's been TWO YEARS since the 360 release. I don't see any leaps and bounds apart from their same old upscaling trick.

So stop counting pixels and be a goddamn gamer and start playing.


To your second question:

I assume you're trying to be sarcastic and trying to show me that 1080p HDTVs are Rm5k++ and that you're getting a God-given deal with your precious Dell 2707 at a mere 2999.

Again, read - my - posts

I showed you 2 options: one if you're still adamant about 1920x1200, and one if you're willing to go for more screen space.

The 2407 is a damn fine monitor, and thus paying RM700 for another 3 inches is just not worth it.

and when you compare the equally good BenQ 24" which you save a whopping RM1240, it's just borderline stupid.




Pity your parents little boy. Help them save some money for themselves and give up the damn 3 inches.

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QUOTE(Breaktru @ Dec 8 2007, 03:27 PM)
Ok since you've settled with a non HDMI LCD , why would you still opting for the elite . If the budget does constraint , I don't really see a point in it .

IIRC , most games are upscaled only and Halo3 native is at 640p . IMO full HD is a joke at smaller display . unsure.gif

P/s : The Dell LCD if used on PC sure helluva awesome though .  tongue.gif
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I was planning on using my 19" LCD for my older PC while the 27" for the Xbox 360 AND Windows Vista. I was told I could like "switch" between the two of them??

The reason I'm going for the Elite is for the 120Gb hard drive and the less chance of getting 3ROD. And on top of that, for future purposes...

Does DVI really make a difference to HDMI ?


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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 03:44 PM)
I was planning on using my 19" LCD for my older PC while the 27" for the Xbox 360 AND Windows Vista. I was told I could like "switch" between the two of them??

The reason I'm going for the Elite is for the 120Gb hard drive and the less chance of getting 3ROD. And on top of that, for future purposes...

Does DVI really make a difference to HDMI ?
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Back to the answer..

gamer's hideout agree ? on ?

back to the DVI compare HDMI

19 inch ? nope. looks the same.
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DVI is essentially HDMI without sound.

I would go for a 32" LCD TV if I had RM3k instead of a measly 27" monitor.
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QUOTE(Gurdian @ Dec 8 2007, 03:44 PM)
Xbox 360, don't need to PM me about this. We can talk about it here. It's not like you're confessing your feelings to me so don't be shy.
Fanboy-ism? Of what??! I am so freakin new here, there nothing to be a fan of... The only reason I ordered so fast is because the offer ends Monday. Have some pity on me, I am new here... sweat.gif

Oh not to worry, my order can be "put on hold" on Monday. Furthermore processing will take longer coz' Tuesday not everyone is working.
Anyways, what if in the future, there are 1080p (full HD) capable games?
Another question, what is the price range of a full HD 1080p HDTV ?



To your first question:

Did you even read my previous posts? Click on the links and read.

There are already 1080p games. But they're only a small handful and most of the major titles are still doing their upscaling trick.

Most native 1080p games now are usually games that don't tax the CPU/GPU of the 360 much, so developers can afford to up the reso to 1920x1080.

Developers like Bungie give some dingdong excuse that they want gamers to have a more 'realistic blabla yadayada experience' so  they have to lower to 640p and give more bling effects. But the brutal truth is Halo 3 would be crawling on your screen if they gave it native 1080p.

Your only chance of the next uber game with fancy effects, crazy lighting and graphical coolness to have native 1080p is when developers/programmers suddenly learned how to code better or that the Xbox 360 got a CPU/GPU upgrade.

So stop counting pixels and be a goddamn gamer and start playing.

To your second question:

I assume you're trying to be sarcastic and trying to show me that 1080p HDTVs are Rm5k++ and that you're getting a God-given deal with your precious Dell 2707 at a mere 2999.

Again, read - my - posts

I showed you 2 options: one if you're still adamant about 1920x1200, and one if you're willing to go for more screen space.

The 2407 is a damn fine monitor, and thus paying RM700 for another 3 inches is just not worth it.

and when you compare the equally good BenQ 24" which you save a whopping RM1240, it's just borderline stupid.
Pity your parents little boy. Help them save some money for themselves and give up the damn 3 inches.
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Whoa... totally didn't expect that but thanks anyway.


Alright, let's put the sarcasm and 1080p rants of mine AWAY for good.

I am really confused, frustrated and worse still, hope my money hadn't gone to waste and that is why I am here.

(as for the Dell, like I said, I can put it on HOLD on Monday...) nod.gif


So here's the deal - - -

1. What is the price range of a full HD 1080p TV ?
2. What can I get for less than RM3k on a full HD 1080p TV ? [meaning: resolution and clarity]
3. What can I get for less than RM3k on a non full HD 1080p TV ? [meaning: resolution and clarity]
4. What would be the viewing area of answer No.2 or No. 3 if available at that price range ?

I ask sincerely. notworthy.gif No offence mate, but I was seating on the edge of my seat when I hit that order button.

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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 03:44 PM)
I was planning on using my 19" LCD for my older PC while the 27" for the Xbox 360 AND Windows Vista. I was told I could like "switch" between the two of them??

The reason I'm going for the Elite is for the 120Gb hard drive and the less chance of getting 3ROD. And on top of that, for future purposes...

Does DVI really make a difference to HDMI ?
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120GB to store what ? You ain't got anything to download here (IP restrict and yada yada) + our "lightspeed" Streamyx line . cool.gif

And even the elite somehow will get RROD'ed .

Oh , and I'm damn agree with Guardian on how much you can save with the cheaper alternative . In fact , you can save alot in many aspect and the differences aren't big .
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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 03:59 PM)
Whoa... totally didn't expect that but thanks anyway.
Alright, let's put the sarcasm and 1080p rants of mine AWAY for good.

I am really confused, frustrated and worse still, hope my money hadn't gone to waste and that is why I am here.

(as for the Dell, like I said, I can put it on HOLD on Monday...)  nod.gif
So here's the deal - - -

1. What is the price range of a full HD 1080p TV ?
2. What can I get for less than RM3k on a full HD 1080p TV ? [meaning: resolution and clarity]
3. What can I get for less than RM3k on a non full HD 1080p TV ? [meaning: resolution and clarity]
4. What would be the viewing area of answer No.2 or No. 3 if available at that price range ?

I ask sincerely.  notworthy.gif No offence mate, but I was seating on the edge of my seat when I hit that order button.
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1. 6k - 7k

2. No such thing.

3. Short of screaming "GOOGLE IT", stop being a lazy-tard and read my previous posts.

4. No such thing for No.2, and read my previous posts for No. 3

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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 03:59 PM)
Whoa... totally didn't expect that but thanks anyway.
Alright, let's put the sarcasm and 1080p rants of mine AWAY for good.

I am really confused, frustrated and worse still, hope my money hadn't gone to waste and that is why I am here.

(as for the Dell, like I said, I can put it on HOLD on Monday...)  nod.gif
So here's the deal - - -

1. What is the price range of a full HD 1080p TV ?
2. What can I get for less than RM3k on a full HD 1080p TV ? [meaning: resolution and clarity]
3. What can I get for less than RM3k on a non full HD 1080p TV ? [meaning: resolution and clarity]
4. What would be the viewing area of answer No.2 or No. 3 if available at that price range ?

I ask sincerely.  notworthy.gif No offence mate, but I was seating on the edge of my seat when I hit that order button.
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1. Don't waste money on small display with Full HD
2. Don't waste money on small display with Full HD
3. There's no non full HD 1080p , 1080p is full HD . Other than 1080P , they're not Full HD
4. Again , Don't waste money on small display with Full HD

For the fact that Full HD isn't necessary for 20inchers and not many games are natively rendered at 1080P , better forget about full HD . Unless of course , you can fork out the money for big-a$$ display with Full HD .

You wish you can do that , but life isn't fair . Unless some miracle happened that your parents fully support you on it , or you won lottery .

What am I blabbering about . rclxub.gif
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so who to agree ? and what to agree on ? and why agree ? hmm.gif
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Right on... I'll call Dell on Monday, tell them to halt the order. Even though they have the offer, you guys are damn right on...

from rm2,299 -->
RM700 more for a mere 3 inches larger? (24" to 27" Dell)
RM1240 more and I can get BenQ 24" with HDMI ?
at around RM3k, I am better off buying a HDTV that is far larger than 27 " just flipping the newspapers and I came across a few

You guys are right. I will be shopping for LCD TV for my budget range. There are plenty of shops around. Best if I see the TV working in its glory.



*Edited : Will be closing thread soon... just give me some hints on buying HDTV...

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For me at least I can see the difference between CRT and LCD monitor is enough for me.

And you don't bother taking into account the response time? Smart.

For those who said 8ms response time, your eyes can't see. I can make you see with your own eye rclxms.gif

Go play Gears of War split screen. Multiplayer the best. Try do roadie run at the same time.

I went to yhanlee there with his 5ms LCD monitor, the 1 who run last, will suffer the frame rate drops which you can see very clearly. ( not sure correct term ) Just say, 1 will feel lagg.

Mine 2ms, I tried both roadie run, both run smoothly.

So far only Gears of War.

QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 03:16 PM)
after much discussion with my parents and me and on HDTV, LCD display and "why-dont-you-just-used-your-old-display"... I finally have ordered it.
27" Dell 2707WFP 1920x1200 display.  sweat.gif

The guys at Gamers Hideout themselves said to me, I can get even a 32" HDTV lesser price than the Dell display. But I stressed them that full HD capable HDTVs are much more expensive than the Dell display. And they agreed. The thing is they said, the Dell display does not have HDMI and its 27".

My point is, this is what I want : Full HD at 27"

This is what "most of you are recommending me" : Non Full HD  HDTVs at 32" or larger [which I do understand is much cheaper compared last time]


This is the problem : Full HD  HDTVs are "still relatively expensive", they're like what RM3,500 + ??

This is what I think the solution is : Even though 27" vs 32" is like 5 huge freakin inches of difference, I get full HD at a

With price in mind (and quality fortunately in my case), the Dell fits me perfectly. I was told the upcoming 30" Dell 2560x1600 (with HDMI) would cost me around RM4,500 to RM5,000+. That's ridiculous.
The fact that I "do have" full HD and its large at 27" AND it fits the bill at RM2,999, it would be my pick.
Keep those feedback coming, I am told my order can still be "put on hold" on Monday.
Help.  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
ps : I have never seen a HDTV, never compared LCD vs. HDTV, but I know 100% how it feels to have 1920x1080 resolution on a LCD PC display.
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HDTV is either LCD or Plasma tv. There is also CRT type but is rare to find here in Malaysia ( maybe you guys know where ) rclxms.gif

You want a full HD? Let me ask you this
What is your distance between you and your screen? If you are too near to your big screen LCD, you can see the pixel of the display.

For a game you want a full HD? LOL.

If you want a pure full HD, get a 40" + LCD tv with full hd and your console support HDMI. You put that in and see from far.

But still the HD still depends on the game. Game crappy, your display crappy.

QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 03:44 PM)
I was planning on using my 19" LCD for my older PC while the 27" for the Xbox 360 AND Windows Vista. I was told I could like "switch" between the two of them??

The reason I'm going for the Elite is for the 120Gb hard drive and the less chance of getting 3ROD. And on top of that, for future purposes...

Does DVI really make a difference to HDMI ?
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Go and do some research.

DVI A-D VS HDMI. There is DVI-A,B, C and D ( correct me if I'm wrong )

DVI-a is same as your VGA cable. Therefore DVI-D is better then VGA cable but lose to HDMI.

HDMI is the best because all the input > output are uncompressed thats why they produce a fine picture.

Like we all said, if you want gaming for LCD monitor, best is go either 22" or 24" for cheapest.

And since you have so much money, you might as well get a LCD tv with 32" higher. Whats the point buying 27" monitor which cost close to 3k when you can get better inch and more output to it?

And the HD graphic still depends on the game itself.
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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 8 2007, 04:36 PM)
Right on... I'll call Dell on Monday, tell them to halt the order. Even though they have the offer, you guys are damn right on...

from rm2,299 -->
RM700 more for a mere 3 inches larger? (24" to 27" Dell)
RM1240 more and I can get BenQ 24" with HDMI ?
at around RM3k, I am better off buying a HDTV that is far larger than 27 " just flipping the newspapers and I came across a few

You guys are right. I will be shopping for LCD TV for my budget range. There are plenty of shops around. Best if I see the TV working in its glory.
*Edited : Will be closing thread soon... just give me some hints on buying HDTV...
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I think you got it wrong , or just typed them out wrongly . Let me help to sort it out precisely

from rm2,299 -->
RM700 LESS for a mere 3 inches Reduction? (27" to 24" Dell)
RM1240 LESS and you can get BenQ 24" with HDMI ? RM1759 , the cost of the BenQ 24" , precisely .

And Djinn is still wondering on the agree thingy lol
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Yeah. Agreed. Totally.

Will be scouring for Samsung LCD TVs soon after scrapping Dell order.

Thx to u guys for changing my consolic-full-hd-only mind.

*Edit : Closed for now. I have headaches already.


Added on December 9, 2007, 1:50 pmGot a great deal...
http://www.avshack.co.za/product_info.php?products_id=33

Around RM4xxx .....
Its going to be for my home instead of me just using it for my Xbox... so its more meaningful buying it
http://www.consumer.philips.com/consumer/e...TV+37PFL7422-98

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Overview:

LCD True HD display, 1920x1080p
HD ready for the highest quality display of HDTV signals
Pixel Plus HD for better details, depth and clarity in HDTV
Dynamic contrast enhancer delivering rich black details
Incredible Surround(tm) for enhanced audio enjoyment
Compact and slim design that fits in every room
Smart Picture and Smart Sound to personalize your viewing
1000 page Hypertext for instant fast access to teletext
Dual HDMI input for full digital High Definition connection
Specifications:

Aspect ratio : Widescreen
Brightness : 500 cd/m²
Contrast ratio (typical) : 4000:1
Response time (typical) : 8 ms
Viewing angle (horizontal) : 178 degree

Viewing angle (vertical) : 178 degree
Diagonal screen size (inch) : 37 inch
Diagonal screen size (metric) : 94 cm
Display screen type : LCD True HD W-UXGA Act. matrix
Panel resolution : 1920x1080p
Picture enhancement : Pixel Plus HD, Dynamic contrast enhancement, 3/2 - 2/2 motion pull down, 3D Combfilter, 3D MA deinterlacing, Active Control, Blue stretch, Black stretch, White stretch, Green enhancement, Color Temperature Adjustment, Digital Noise Reduction, Progressive Scan, Smart Picture, Automatic skin tone correction Screen enhancement : Anti-Reflection coated screen


After viewing demos on the display at the showroom, I was totally convinced to get it. The thing is, I have not cancelled my Dell order coz they're closed today. I should be getting it at the end of the week.

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About to hit the "Buy" button on the Dell 27".... guys... but I know this IS what I want

RM2,999....  sweat.gif

I negotiate with my dad + mom, they're willing to help me to pay for 12 months...
RM100 from me while RM150 from them....

What do you guys think... I am not around on Monday and the RM1,100 less offer ends Monday !!!
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I think you should grow up and get a job! cool2.gif
So,mommy and daddy still pays for your boxer shorts and provide money for your dates? hmm.gif
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I think you should grow up and get a job!  cool2.gif
So,mommy and daddy still pays for your boxer shorts and provide money for your dates?  hmm.gif
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Its hilarious to know that there are some people who care about how others live.
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I think you got it wrong , or just typed them out wrongly . Let me help to sort it out precisely

from rm2,299 -->
RM700 LESS for a mere 3 inches Reduction? (27" to 24" Dell)
RM1240 LESS and you can get BenQ 24" with HDMI ? RM1759 , the cost of the BenQ 24" , precisely .

0And Djinn is still wondering on the agree thingy lol
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yeah, I was like huh ? agree? agree on what ?

must ask ed1001, or ahbiao on this matter... hmm.gif
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I emailed them but never replied. The email I sent ages ago. Then why put email address in the first place.

It was scarier than I thought when I got there. What my friend told me about the place was that its literally a "hideout". I didn't believe it. It was a indeed hideout. The picture of the front from the website speaks differently. It looks like I was about to enter a mall or something. biggrin.gif


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yeah, I was like huh ? agree? agree on what ?

must ask ed1001, or ahbiao on this matter... hmm.gif
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On the fact that "I asked them and they said go ask your TV vendor."
Duh? I don't know that? Its my first time buying a console.

So much for "Let the friendly folks at Gamer's Hideout show you the way."


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"Let the friendly folks at Gamer's Hideout show you the way." -gamershideout.com.my
I emailed them but never replied. The email I sent ages ago. Then why put email address in the first place.

It was scarier than I thought when I got there. What my friend told me about the place was that its literally a "hideout". I didn't believe it. It was a indeed hideout. The picture of the front from the website speaks differently. It looks like I was about to enter a mall or something.  biggrin.gif


Added on December 9, 2007, 9:17 pm

On the fact that "I asked them and they said go ask your TV vendor."
Duh? I don't know that? Its my first time buying a console.

So much for "Let the friendly folks at Gamer's Hideout show you the way."
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dude, I was like asking who or which "guy" talk to you on this matter, I was blur that gamer's hideout agree on you on something.

which is why I ask. but I guess you didn't ask them thier name though. hmm.gif if is not me then who..


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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Dec 9 2007, 09:26 PM)
dude, I was like asking who or which "guy" talk to you on this matter, I was blur that gamer's hideout agree on you on something.

which is why I ask. but I guess you didn't ask them thier name though. hmm.gif if is not me then who..
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the part is; DVI, HDMI, VGA, I was asking on whether my display needs a converter and would it be a better buy to get a HDMI LCD TV (cheaper or more expensive than to get a big screen PC LCD that has no HDMI) the dude finally said "go ask your TV vendor". biggrin.gif Like I didn't know that.


"Let the friendly folks at Gamers Hideout show you the way." hmm.gif

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the part is; DVI, HDMI, VGA, I was asking on whether my display needs a converter and would it be a better buy to get a HDMI LCD TV (cheaper or more expensive than to get a big screen PC LCD that has no HDMI) the dude finally said "go ask your TV vendor".  biggrin.gif  Like I didn't know that.
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Ah, I see. Guess he don't know much on LCD or HD.


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maybe is not Djiin...
there are some one else...
i wen there... but really face wat like xbox 360 said...
but Djiin is a little difference...
PM him here then you will get reply... smile.gif
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if u budget are rm 3k..go get 32' lcd tv la....there's no way u can get full hd tv without rm 5k and above....go get a job la...then buy....but if i were you i will not toss away my money for gaming solution...just stick with 19' lcd widescreen monitor are enough for me.....
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QUOTE(Azhar85 @ Dec 10 2007, 03:03 PM)
if u budget are rm 3k..go get 32' lcd tv la....there's no way u can get full hd tv without rm 5k and above....go get a job la...then buy....but if i were you i will not toss away my money for gaming solution...just stick with 19' lcd widescreen monitor are enough for me.....
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No dude, the focus has shifted from the TV being used "just for my PC and Xbox 360" to "it will be in the living room as the main TV at home". Given the fact that it costs more than RM4k (credit card members, so its actually well over RM5k, MBF members only). Its also full HD (1920x1080), I witnessed the difference there and then between 720p and 1080p. nod.gif

The dude had an Xbox 360 attached to the TV, and I did see some difference. However he said I won't really see much difference if I stood 8 feet away (recommended distance). True enough. Game tested was Call of Duty 3, he told me its a native 1080p game.

I was compelled to get a 720p display, but with the offer and the fact that its 1080p, I definitely got this TV booked down for me.

I have not purchased it yet. Those Dell people are quite stubborn when it comes to cancelling an order.

ps : I welcome more comments (and criticises).



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"Let the friendly folks at Gamer's Hideout show you the way." -gamershideout.com.my
I emailed them but never replied. The email I sent ages ago. Then why put email address in the first place.

It was scarier than I thought when I got there. What my friend told me about the place was that its literally a "hideout". I didn't believe it. It was a indeed hideout. The picture of the front from the website speaks differently. It looks like I was about to enter a mall or something.  biggrin.gif


Added on December 9, 2007, 9:17 pm

On the fact that "I asked them and they said go ask your TV vendor."
Duh? I don't know that? Its my first time buying a console.

So much for "Let the friendly folks at Gamer's Hideout show you the way."
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lol!...not getting much love from Gamers Hideout huh? Chill bro...its all good...they got like too many customers anyway...1 more customer like you wont make any difference...i still go GH to get some stuff...they are really one of the best places to get your console fix.

but if I need to talk 'technical' or get advise, I'd go to Gamers Solution City Bazar (in front of pertama)..talk to bernard..he the man...cheers
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Just get a Bravia X 70 inch and everyone will be happy.
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lol!...not getting much love from Gamers Hideout huh? Chill bro...its all good...they got like too many customers anyway...1 more customer like you wont make any difference...i still go GH to get some stuff...they are really one of the best places to get your console fix.

but if I need to talk 'technical' or get advise, I'd go to Gamers Solution City Bazar (in front of pertama)..talk to bernard..he the man...cheers
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No, I think I asked GH one too many questions on LCD HDTV.

Thanks for the info.


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Just get a Bravia X 70 inch and everyone will be happy.
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Right. You sponsor me right? Its not easy to make everyone happy.


Added on December 10, 2007, 4:10 pm*Edit: I get a Porsche, you tell me to get a Ferrari. I get a Ferrari, you tell me to get a Rolls Royce. I get a Rolls Royce you tell me to get an F-15 Jet. I get an F-15 Jet, you tell me to get a Space Rocket. I get a Space Rocket you tell me just sit at home and save all the trouble.
Never ending Rat Race. Just like PC gamers.

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haha... ppl is like tat lo... always aiming for a best one...
haha... 720 and 1080 from 8 feet... not much difference...
hehe... see it in ur then you trust us???
well i always walk along all LCD TV in shopping mall..
so always see the difference in short distance... but can't really tell from 3 meter away...
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Been scouring Panasonic, Sony, JVC, Toshiba, Sharp and finally Philips websites. I called them and asked about anything of 37" or 42" that has full HD. Even when they said they do have it, its ridiculously priced, well above RM5k.

I guess I will be settling for the Philips 37 PFL7422/98 1080p LCD TV. Its priced at RM4k for MBF card holders. Normal price above RM5k. Luckily they had one on demo, and like I said earlier, the quality was freaking awesome. My Halo 3 and NFS Pro Street can't wait to get out of their boxes... biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(Xbox 360 @ Dec 10 2007, 07:22 PM)
Been scouring Panasonic, Sony, JVC, Toshiba, Sharp and finally Philips websites. I called them and asked about anything of 37" or 42" that has full HD. Even when they said they do have it, its ridiculously priced, well above RM5k.

I guess I will be settling for the Philips 37 PFL7422/98 1080p LCD TV. Its priced at RM4k for MBF card holders. Normal price above RM5k. Luckily they had one on demo, and like I said earlier, the quality was freaking awesome. My Halo 3 and NFS Pro Street can't wait to get out of their boxes...  biggrin.gif
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May I ask where are you going to put the tv?

I will say that getting a full HD just for playing game is a waste of your money. If you say for you to watch movie, then it's ok. But for playing game. rclxub.gif

The graphics appears on your display still depends on your game graphic. There is a limit how far the game graphic was created for that game. Even you have a super duper HD tv, but the graphic still stays how it was design in the first place.

May I ask, do you ever put your own position as a father, and 1 day your son come ask you " I want to get a 40''+ LCD tv, can I dad ? I'll promise to pay by installment "

Well, if I try to tell my parents that I will pay them back by installment, they will still ask me when I start working the only go and buy.

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As far as I know, xbox360 dont support 1080p much. I dont know about HD-DVD add-on, i think it also is 720p. So if u r using xbox360, then using 720p is enough. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Dec 10 2007, 09:31 PM)
As far as I know, xbox360 dont support 1080p much. I dont know about HD-DVD add-on, i think it also is 720p. So if u r using xbox360, then using 720p is enough. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Yeah, I know 720p is enough but I got lucky with the Philips. It just so happens they showed me the difference of 720p, 1080i and 1080p there and then itself on an Xbox 360. The game was Call of Duty 3. Standing 8 feet away, you can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. But closer, like 4 feet, you most definitely can. nod.gif I know what I saw.


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Yeah, I know 720p is enough but I got lucky with the Philips. It just so happens they showed me the difference of 720p, 1080i and 1080p there and then itself on an Xbox 360. The game was Call of Duty 3. Standing 8 feet away, you can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. But closer, like 4 feet, you most definitely can.  nod.gif I know what I saw.
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Your comparing COD 3?

LOL

Put Gears of War or COD 4 then stand from far and see.

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QUOTE(MmxZero @ Dec 11 2007, 12:49 AM)
Your comparing COD 3?

LOL

Put Gears of War or COD 4 then stand from far and see.
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Well, I am not going to stand far and see. You see, there isn't much space in the living room. So, I will be (guessing) standing perhaps 4-5 feet away from the display. So yes, FYI, I will be able to see the difference. Why would I want to stand "far" ? LOL... that would defeat the purpose of a big display even if its 37".

ps: More thoughts and comments are welcomed...



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... and another one bites the HD marketing bullcrap...
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I'm using a 22" widescreen lcd monitor. I'm still in college so I'm fine with 720p for now. At least is the cheapest way of getting HD  rclxms.gif
LOL.  notworthy.gif

I think now with the dvix, everybody dl from net and stream towards the Xbox 360 since monitor so small ( if you monitor is small )
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so bro able to claim ur box?

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Well , to Xbox360 aka thread starter , that Philips screen will makes a good purchase .

I liked the idea being family TV+gaming . Hell you get HD add-on for the 360 , or hook it up to any HD source and enjoy .

I'm serious , no sarcastic here . Enjoy the purchase and your future 360 , those denying this and that again are just being jealous . tongue.gif
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well philips is nice... smile.gif
some more easy payment + discount... good...
but i prefer sharp... tongue.gif

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I think after bonus me going to get 32" LCD LG...

lol
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y LG??? sharp la...
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QUOTE(Breaktru @ Dec 11 2007, 12:49 PM)
Well , to Xbox360 aka thread starter , that Philips screen will makes a good purchase .

I liked the idea being family TV+gaming . Hell you get HD add-on for the 360 , or hook it up to any HD source and enjoy .

I'm serious , no sarcastic here . Enjoy the purchase and your future 360 , those denying this and that again are just being jealous . tongue.gif
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Yeah, I guess its wiser to use it as a family TV. My TV at home is approximately 9 years old... sweat.gif Sometimes it has to be "warm up first" before I can use it...

LOL biggrin.gif I believe they're speaking their minds even if this is the case...


Added on December 11, 2007, 6:36 pm
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well philips is nice... smile.gif
some more easy payment + discount... good...
but i prefer sharp... tongue.gif
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I asked them... they have Sharp Aquos (100Hz ! That would be good for the eyes). But again, the price is an issue...


Added on December 11, 2007, 6:37 pm
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... and another one bites the HD marketing bullcrap...
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...fortunately the crap feels good. Not good, great.


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haha ok ok...
good good... at least you know ur bottomline or constrain...
but go for what you afford la... over it will be damgerous...
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so bro able to claim ur box?
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No lar, just to prepare if I get struck by 3rod. counting the cost of traveling tongue.gif

QUOTE(michael9413 @ Dec 11 2007, 06:32 PM)
y LG??? sharp la...
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Y not Sony Bravia L series? rclxms.gif
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c how lar....

lol if got kan tou good....

sony also good.. ah.. tooo much choice actually... anything below 3k

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Sony LCD TVs are kinda pricey... from what I've checked out thus far...
How bout Panasonic or JVC or Haier ? No matter what LCD TV I look for, I keep going back to Philips.
It pretty much fits my wallet and feeds my eyes.


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I think normal signal tv or astro on LCD looks really bad and furthermore got stretch
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Panasonic and JVC not bad.. but pricey....

Sharp Aquos still the best


I still prefer LG new model... fit my wallet very well as well.. smile.gif
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I think normal signal tv or astro on LCD looks really bad and furthermore got stretch
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"Really bad?" Or "just fine" ? From the demo on the Philips LCD, its definitely not high quality but heck, is our TV signal HD or is Astro feeding us HD signals ?

You can't have the best of everything. Unless you're rich.






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There are some channel in HD though , like discovery channel lol .

IMO , normal signal from Astro is still watchable , albeit stretched a little and slightly pixelated at close. That's what I've observed from my relatives 40" HDTV displaying Astro .

Certainly I believe no one sits close enough to the HDTV counting pixel right ? tongue.gif


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There are some channel in HD though , like discovery channel lol .

IMO , normal signal from Astro is still watchable , albeit stretched a little and slightly pixelated at close. That's what I've observed from my relatives 40" HDTV displaying Astro .

Certainly I believe no one sits close enough to the HDTV counting pixel right ? tongue.gif
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For gaming, I would be sitting a little closer, so the 720 vs 1080 matters to me.
As for normal TV viewing, I am (sure) to sit farther as to "not count the pixels".

ps :
Oh boy... I won't be here until Friday, will be extremely busy in college... Hopefully the internet in my college improves its speed so that I can hit "Add Reply"... biggrin.gif

pps :
so, get those comments, rantings, critics, and slammin good deals and recommendations coming.


Top picks for me thus far...
1. 37" Philips 37PFL7422/98 1080p LCD TV (RM 4k..., normal RM 5k+)
2. ....

Budget...
RM3k > RM4 1/2 k

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ur fren have LCD TV or something? maybe u can bring ur box to his/her house for try out......

my company got over 30 LCD TV .. seriously... astro or normal tv.. look a bit like watching VCD smile.gif

720p good enough for me....


37" LG rm 3300 only... of course 720p.... but really good deal...
I saw it at Court..

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wow... good one there... hmm... but the MbF card deal also not bad...
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ur fren have LCD TV or something? maybe u can bring ur box to his/her house for try out......

my company got over 30 LCD TV .. seriously... astro or normal tv.. look a bit like watching VCD smile.gif

720p good enough for me....
37" LG rm 3300 only... of course 720p.... but really good deal...
I saw it at Court..
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Where? Courts Mammoth? Hmm... yeah, been there. They have 720p that is affordable... but err... don't you think the fact that I can get a full HD 1080p Philips that has "decreased the normal price" by RM1k is worth while? I mean, to tell you the truth, normal price is RM5,499. Now, its RM4,200. RM4k was my cut-off point, but hey, its worth it.

*Edit: MBF offer ends early next year (Nov-Dec offer). So, I better get it while I still have time.


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wow... good one there... hmm... but the MbF card deal also not bad...
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its a great deal. its all I wanted. and I have the opportunity.

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  wow... good one there... hmm... but the MbF card deal also not bad...
panasonic? 1999? if tht one.. it's old model.. with only 1year warranty which make it sux... usually LCD only got problem after 2


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  QUOTE(DarkSaviour @ Dec 12 2007, 09:27 AM)
ur fren have LCD TV or something? maybe u can bring ur box to his/her house for try out......

my company got over 30 LCD TV .. seriously... astro or normal tv.. look a bit like watching VCD

720p good enough for me....
37" LG rm 3300 only... of course 720p.... but really good deal...
I saw it at Court..






Where? Courts Mammoth? Hmm... yeah, been there. They have 720p that is affordable... but err... don't you think the fact that I can get a full HD 1080p Philips that has "decreased the normal price" by RM1k is worth while? I mean, to tell you the truth, normal price is RM5,499. Now, its RM4,200. RM4k was my cut-off point, but hey, its worth it.

*Edit: MBF offer ends early next year (Nov-Dec offer). So, I better get it while I still have time.



if 1k off kinda good deal


but for me.. I will get maybe 32" or 37" LG... after 40" cheaper like abt 3k i will get it again... just sell 32" off cheap cheap to fren maybe to michael brows.gif whistling.gif save extra rm1k for nx 1080p 40"


I'll get it at jusco rm 2699 some more can use jusco voucher which few hundred off icon_rolleyes.gif .. LOL thk to HP ori rewards tongue.gif


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post Dec 12 2007, 05:01 PM

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If we have the tv in the living room for a family tv+ console Which i assume majority of the time being spent on tv or dvds... it makes sense having the huge 720p tv instead of a smaller full hd lcd, EVEN if it is RM1000 cheaper now.

I Bought a 32" 1080i phillips in august for RM2599 with 5 years warranty. im still happy with it until today. That extra cash saved was used to buy a ps3 and a few blu-rays which i think is a good deal instead of a Full HD lcd tv

Gurdian actually bother explaining to you multiple times to be practical, his pointers are clear.If you insist on pushing for Full HD which clearly do not have much supporting medias in both games and movies especially in malaysia, you certainly overlook the good sound system (why would you want a good visual and awful audio?) or the high cost of hd dvd/blu-rays over conventional dvds, or long lead time from amazon.com and a whole long list more.. you gotta think again friend.. especially when there is a budget..
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post Dec 12 2007, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(DarkSaviour @ Dec 12 2007, 04:47 PM)
panasonic? 1999? if tht one.. it's old model.. with only 1year warranty which make it sux... usually LCD only got problem after 2
if 1k off kinda good deal
but for me.. I will get maybe 32" or 37" LG... after 40" cheaper like abt 3k i will get it again... just sell 32" off cheap cheap to fren maybe to michael  brows.gif whistling.gif save extra rm1k for nx 1080p 40"I'll get it at jusco rm 2699 some more can use jusco voucher which few hundred off icon_rolleyes.gif .. LOL thk to HP ori rewards tongue.gif
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dun really get it...




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post Dec 12 2007, 10:44 PM

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well he will buy a cheap 32" at this moment....
then if the 40" full HD is priced around RM3500 then he will think again...
maybe he will sell the old 32" to me... then buy himself the Full HD one...
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post Dec 13 2007, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Dec 12 2007, 10:44 PM)
well he will buy a cheap 32" at this moment....
then if the 40" full HD is priced around RM3500 then he will think again...
maybe he will sell the old 32" to me... then buy himself the Full HD one...
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Hmm... that's a risky game I don't play. Its money you're talking about. 2nd hand is something I absolutely hate.
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haha... i duno... but if the deal is ok then go la... smile.gif
depends lo...
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post Dec 13 2007, 09:32 PM

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Then Philips it is THEN !!!! To WAR !!!! I mean, to the shop...

37"

1080p

HDMI

Widescreen

RM4xxx

Awesome..


Added on December 16, 2007, 1:21 pm biggrin.gif Final price RM4620. I got and and I'm using it now. Its capable of upto 1366x780 PC resolution I think, and it goes all the way upto true 1080p when it comes to gaming consoles. 37" of glory. It's Heeeuuggge !!!
I played BioShock PC and OMG...its life like. Same with Airborne and Oblivion.

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got question...
im looking forward to buy lcd monitor to play games...but i dont want to buy the giant one..19' would be ok since i already got my hd tv at my family house..i planned to put lcd monitor at my rumah sewa.
my old lcd dell 17' 16ms...is sucks...i already tried my xbox there...and the graphic are very blur and crap..so you guys got any suggestion what lcd monitor should i choose...19' ok or not?what brand err?my old dell contrast ratio is around 500:1 kot...if im not mistaken laa..sudah lama maa.....my budget iaround 1500 below...can i get good lcd with that price?ahh..another thing must be widescreen laa...if not 19'....24' pun bolehlaa..
thanxxx...
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me Dell 22" ...connect my Xbox 360 using HDMI and PC using DVI... buy online thru dell.com.my...cheers
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post Feb 12 2008, 10:45 AM

 

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for 1500, try and +RM200 and get the Benq G2400W.

Otherwise, go for the Dell E248WFP; http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/c...dhs1&l=en&s=dhs


Both are 24" and both are TN panels.

However the G2400W has better blacks and colours compared to the E248WFP.

PLUS, the Benq has a HDMI port.

So imo, try and scrape another rm200 and get the benq. Cheers
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i get myself a Dell E248WFP @ RM1360 , during last PC fair + free 5 years warranty

connect using VGA
so far so good ... the only complain is that the monitor have pretty poor viewing angle and not enough time to play sad.gif

anyone intrested with the monitor @ RM1100 and the console at RM1200? smile.gif
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Any one using 32 R7? was thinking to get it at 2299...

any advise?
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post Feb 13 2008, 02:31 PM

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here(small town parit buntar perak) 32 R7 u can get at 2190...

QUOTE(DarkSaviour @ Feb 13 2008, 12:43 PM)
Any one using 32 R7? was thinking to get it at 2299...

any advise?
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QUOTE(wunan @ Feb 13 2008, 02:31 PM)
here(small town parit buntar perak) 32 R7 u can get at 2190...
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It floats around that price la RM2200.. even in kl,pj area. U need to know where to look smile.gif

It looks great for that price man.. Just a while ago it was at 3k sweat.gif sweat.gif
You do not need 1080p for anything smaller than 37" so i think its a swell deal smile.gif



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Guys,

Been thinking about getting either:

LG 32LB9R1 (32-inch LCD)
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Diagonal screen size 32 inch
Aspect ratio 16:9
Dimensions (HxWxD) 544.1 x 805.8 x 79 mm
Weight 12.6 kg
Contrast ratio 10000:1
S-IPS LCD panel; XD Engine; Intelligent eye; Simplink (HDMI-CEC); 1080p-ready dual HDMI terminals.
1366 x 768 resolution; 500cd/m2 brightness; 5ms response time; 178-degree viewing angle; HD-ready.

or hold till march/april for the upcoming Sony Bravia 32 inch LCD


Bravia KLV-32W400A

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Aspect ratio: 16:9
Dimensions (HxWxD): 794 x 540 x 99 mm
Weight: 13 kg
Contrast ratio: 30000:1
Bravia Engine 2: WCG-CCFL; 1080p24 input-ready; Digital Media Port; Bravia Sync (for Handycam camcorders); triple HDMI terminals.

Of coz, on top of that, there's still price factor to consider for the Sony unit, since I have no idea how much the W series will cost. However, on paper it would seem that the Sony unit will easily puts just about most LCD TV of the same catagory (and then some) to shame.

I'll be using the screen for gaming with my xbox 360/wii & external video output for my notebook. So my question is, if I get the LCD TV, will the video/output look crappy once i switch connect for notebook pc mode? Or would it be better to just go for those Computer LCD monitors like Dell, Viewsonic etc.

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u only can go up to 1024x768 max if using VGA smile.gif and DVI to HDMI (which notebook dun have)
correct me if I'm wrong...

BTW do your 360 got HDMI port?


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QUOTE(DarkSaviour @ Feb 15 2008, 09:20 AM)
u only can go up to 1024x768 max if using VGA smile.gif and DVI to HDMI (which notebook dun have)
correct me if I'm wrong...

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Depends on how the LCD TV handle the RGB/VGA input. Most of them these days should accept the native res (1366 x 768).
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QUOTE(DarkSaviour @ Feb 15 2008, 09:20 AM)
u only can go up to 1024x768 max if using VGA smile.gif and DVI to HDMI (which notebook dun have)
correct me if I'm wrong...

BTW do your 360 got HDMI port?
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Yeah I got forcibly "upgraded" to a Elite 360 Falcon set due to rrod but it's all good since the Falcon set runs cooler wink.gif

I've been thinking hard on whether to replace my desktop with the Dell XPS M1330 notebook (comes with HDMI) and if I do that, I need to know how the output would look.
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then no problem lar... xps got hdmi out... sort ur problems liow

 

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