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 Is migration a good choice ?, Migration (PR)

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kikurazz
post Dec 26 2007, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(neotv @ Dec 26 2007, 01:59 PM)
What is the common practice adopted by most people?
1) Obtain a Visa, migrate and look for a job; or
2) Secure a job, work on the Visas later?

Considering the fact that a person needs to resign, move over and look for a job later, it is going to be very risky.. being jobless for god knows how long
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you could do the 1st choice back in the days where migration rules are not that strict. again, it depends on which visa u are trying to apply.
if you get a job 1st, then it will giv u points which will of coz will help u obtain ur PR more easily. it really depends. but i still think you betta secure a job before u apply ur visa (better if your job is on MODL list)
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post Dec 27 2007, 03:42 PM

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I'm thinking of submitting an application myself as well (without going through agent). There is one particular thing I found tricky about the application - We have to get "employment reference letter" from all our current and past employers to prove that we're employed, and they may call up these employers to perform verification.

This means that my current employer will be aware of my plans - may jeopardize my career in terms of increment, promotion, etc

Anybody have any experience with this ?
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post Dec 27 2007, 09:39 PM

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For offshore better to go with agent.

If onshore just do it yourself, I got mine like two weeks.

It's not difficult 2 years ago don't know about now.
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post Dec 28 2007, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(alxale @ Dec 27 2007, 03:42 PM)
I'm thinking of submitting an application myself as well (without going through agent). There is one particular thing I found tricky about the application - We have to get "employment reference letter" from all our current and past employers to prove that we're employed, and they may call up these employers to perform verification.

This means that my current employer will be aware of my plans - may jeopardize my career in terms of increment, promotion, etc

Anybody have any experience with this ?
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You could get a standard employment letter, usually needed if you want to apply for a loan etc. Do not ask your boss, go to HR smile.gif And you could specifically asked your future employer to verify your current position AFTER they've decided to hire you.

Done that actually from my previous employment .. it is actually a win-win situation. Just tell them and surely, they're willing to listen to you.


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post Dec 28 2007, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(alxale @ Dec 27 2007, 03:42 PM)
I'm thinking of submitting an application myself as well (without going through agent). There is one particular thing I found tricky about the application - We have to get "employment reference letter" from all our current and past employers to prove that we're employed, and they may call up these employers to perform verification.

This means that my current employer will be aware of my plans - may jeopardize my career in terms of increment, promotion, etc

Anybody have any experience with this ?
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I applied my NZ application by myself, total cost is around 10k including all the documents/certification etc for 4 pax in my family. For working experience, I called my ex-employer to ask for reference letter if I lost it. Some employer I still have the offer letter and letter of resignation, and the first payslip and last payslip as the documents. For current company, I used the offer letter and confirmation letter as a proof and told the case officer that I don't wish to let my current company knows about my plan about this migration coz it may jeoperdize my bonus and increament next year, she did accept that.

lots of ducoments to prepared lol

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post Jan 27 2008, 06:55 PM

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guys.. i am wondering if it is possible to work there without a PR. Anything like working visa or something like that... then apply PR after a few years there?
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post Jan 27 2008, 08:18 PM

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i think you can get working visa but your employer gotta get it for you... i think you cant get the working visa yourself... because before you get a job, you are not working, so you cant apply for working visa...

anyway... i am working in melbourne for the money and my parents wish... they think like most of you, better future, better environment, better everything...

i think it's good that you are here with ALL YOUR FAMILY, at least your own family if you already have one... your partner and your kids... but for me myself, i am here all alone by myself, with all my family back in KL... that is a hard time here... i have to admit that my working life is pretty good here, and easy life i am having... but... when the people, the place, the food, the familiar everything is just nowhere near me... i still hope that i can go home one day... i think i will be happier eventhough it might be tougher life...
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Oh of course unless he/she have a broken family background then that's another thing. And the working attitude and positive problem solving is important, otherwise anywhere else is still the same.

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Hi, i am reading this thread during lunch break thus i don't have time to read through all pages.

I have come across to webpage called sponsored skill migration, i suppose u can google this up.
For certain jobs like R&D manager, bioscientist, baker, chef; u can apply this sponsored visa.
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post Jan 28 2008, 03:30 PM

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of cos it will be tough in the beginning for foreigner to be in a foreign land but soon later u will enjoy the benefits later ...... anyway ericca u coming back for cny ma ......
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post Jan 30 2008, 10:17 AM

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ericca going back for cny? that's good. i have to work thru cny here cry.gif
well there's a thing call TR now. check it out at immi website, i'm not that sure though since i heard it from my frens.
it's a tempoarary resident visa, allowing you here for 18 months, then after TR you can apply for your PR. but i'm not sure what the requirements are for TR. again, check it out at immi.
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post Jan 30 2008, 10:52 AM

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Hi All,

I obtained my PR last year. I am planning to migrate there next year. I believe you should know the reason why you are going to migrate. Malaysia is a nice country but there are many things that made me very disappointed here. I will be going there with my wife, probably have a kid born there.

There are many ways to obtain a PR. Mine is a skilled PR Subclass 136. Unfortunately, it is better to obtain a PR first b4 you go there and work. I am currently seeking for aussie jobs too from Malaysia but it is damn hard for me. I am thinking to job hop to a MNC and probably stay 1 year more then migrate to aust.

Can you guys recommend any recruitment agency or company that have vacancies.
I am with Telco fields, mainly in GSM/3G/HSDPA RF & Optimization.

Thank you.
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malaysia truly asia.
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darrenz + kikurazz, yes i am coming back... how good is that when i have to sacrifice my JOB to go back? my leave wasnt approved, so i resigned... but anyway, i dont have the intention to stay in that role anymore...

TR for people outside australia is only for:
This visa is for you if you completed an Engineering degree at a recognised overseas institution in the last two years.

only engineering, last 2 years and a recognised overseas institution listed in http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-ski...nstitutions.htm

gred, try to look on www.seek.com.au, there are many jobs advertised on it and at the same time you can look at what they want and what kinda jobs that you can go for... also, most of the jobs there are advertised by agents, so just grab their details and give them a call!


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post Jan 30 2008, 08:08 PM

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Doing it for the kids' sake. I dunno in 15 years if they can get into Uni here in Malaysia, or I can afford to send them overseas. So, have to migrate there where edu cost is minimal.

I don't think work is hard to find if you are willing to work hard. Australia is so big and many opportunities - 'level playing field' you know. wink.gif

Will definitely miss Malaysia, but sacrifice have to be made. sad.gif

I got 9,9,8,8 for IELTS, is that good? Me alway cakap the manglish u tau cool2.gif
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QUOTE(eRiCCa @ Jan 30 2008, 07:20 PM)
TR for people outside australia is only for:
This visa is for you if you completed an Engineering degree at a recognised overseas institution in the last two years.

only engineering, last 2 years and a recognised overseas institution listed in http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-ski...nstitutions.htm
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That's a fascinating list of universities where Imperial College, NUS and UiTM are on the same level biggrin.gif

I'm happy to see two Malaysian universities there, I wonder if anyone here will take advantage of it. Looks like an excellent opportunity.


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QUOTE(sinclairZX81 @ Jan 30 2008, 08:08 PM)
Doing it for the kids' sake. I dunno in 15 years if they can get into Uni here in Malaysia, or I can afford to send them overseas. So, have to migrate there where edu cost is minimal.

I don't think work is hard to find if you are willing to work hard. Australia is so big and many opportunities - 'level playing field' you know.  wink.gif

Will definitely miss Malaysia, but sacrifice have to be made.  sad.gif

I got 9,9,8,8 for IELTS, is that good? Me alway cakap the manglish u tau  cool2.gif
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hmmm... that sounds very true, if you are migrating for your kids' education, you should... you can save really A LOT~~~!!!

about the "hard working then easy to find a job" i think this saying a bit not working... because how can you tell that you are hard working at the interview? and most of the people will tell you they need a person who has achievements and not working like a cow... most of the people here they start packing at 4.45 then they step out of the office sharp at 5pm... they dont encourage people to work late, because the company will have to pay for your OT or time in lieu, then you get to claim dinner and if you work after 8pm they have to pay for your cab charges... that will cost them even more money!! and the company wants you to have a balance working life, not NO LIFE...


OMG, your english is damn good then!!

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QUOTE(sinclairZX81 @ Jan 30 2008, 08:08 PM)
Doing it for the kids' sake. I dunno in 15 years if they can get into Uni here in Malaysia, or I can afford to send them overseas. So, have to migrate there where edu cost is minimal.

I don't think work is hard to find if you are willing to work hard. Australia is so big and many opportunities - 'level playing field' you know.  wink.gif

Will definitely miss Malaysia, but sacrifice have to be made.  sad.gif

I got 9,9,8,8 for IELTS, is that good? Me alway cakap the manglish u tau  cool2.gif
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my family did it, exactly for the same reason, we did our application oin Aprial 2007 and GUESS What i got our approval letter yesterday 14/02/2008 =)

As of yesterday our family is Australia PR Status - Is hard to start over but for the sake of the children is a very very good & cheap investment.

we are hopping to go in May to start our new life in Australia =)

for those that already been there please share some tips


cheers
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post Feb 13 2008, 11:25 AM

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Gratz! callforiphone. Well done. Wish you have a good life there...but don't get suprise when you see your first income tax statement hehehe




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QUOTE(callforiphone @ Feb 13 2008, 09:32 AM)
my family did it,  exactly for the same reason, we did our application oin Aprial 2007 and GUESS What i got our approval letter yesterday 14/02/2008 =)

As of yesterday our family is Australia PR Status - Is hard to start over but for the sake of the children is a very very good & cheap investment.

we are hopping to go in May to start our new life in Australia =)

for those that already been there please share some tips
cheers
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Congrats... glad to hear that.. all the best

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