Dear all,

i just some how found this forum from Google...i am actually in the dillemma to decide whether to migrate to Australia or not...i fully agreed to the statement above whether there is really a good place for our next generation but is worrying whether we are able to find a good job over there & abit hard to give up what had built for the last few years...

another advice needed from u guys is whether u know any good agent that can help me the way through...my situation is a little bit diff from u all, i have got my PR approved about 5 years ago, right after i returned to Mal after finishing my degree there..it's now about the time the visa is going to expired (in jun 08)..i have still no spent my 2 years over there...i am now need to seek for advice from expert who can help to extend my visa, i can only able to go over 2 years later due to some personal reason...

anyone can give me some contacts to the expert whom u think may be able to help me?

thanks in advance

For all who is considering migration,

Migrating to another country is a tough thing to do. You'll need to start all over again, it helps if you have friends and family there.

For most people, the full benefits of migration will be felt only by the second generation, i.e. if you migrate, your children will benefit the most. You will have to work very hard to get used to the new environment, culture and build up your foundations in a new nation.

Personally I feel that even though we are seeing a new political era in Malaysia, there are deep uncertainties about the future of this country. Also, based on my personal assessments of Malaysia, I feel that this country has little chance of becoming like Singapore, South Korea, Japan or other European nations, primarily because of a lack of vision but also heavily influenced by other factors.

Australia is a good place to go if you wish to start up a family in a relatively similar environment. Similar at least when compared to mainland Europe or the United States.

However, I feel that Australia as a nation isn't on the cutting edge of stuff. By that I mean Australia to me seems like a little bit of a laid back nation as opposed to nations like European countries (UK included), Japan and United States. Europe, Japan and US is where all the latest and greatest happens in terms of education, technology, finance, politics and almost every other field you can think of, so it's absolutely fantastic to live there if you're into those kinds of stuff, but competition in these nations are incredible and you've got to really work for it or you get left behind.

All in all, I would conclude that Australia is a good choice, certainly much better than Malaysia in the foreseeable future.

(I know, I'm terribly un-patriotic, I'm just being realistic)

This post has been edited by DeniseLau: Mar 19 2008, 06:08 PM

Think about the reasons you're migrating 1st of all .

I've seen many who say they've given up everything here just so that their children's future will be better. Fast foward to the future, the child becomes some lazy bloc who's just happy to pass his Year12.

Staying back in Malaysia dosent disadvantage us in any way. It even builds a competitive spirit if you're really hoping to do your best


(job opportunities are also plentiful in M'sia , tho not as high paying . they give you the chance to be promoted faster (skill worker shortage ) )

hi to all,

this is a very old thread. I have been complaining that everyday to myself that i should not be here. every morning i kept saying this is is not the place i wanna be. And posted one thread here once ago, that kl is not the place that i wanna be. I dont like the hectic life. Yes, there are probelm in other country as well. those guys will look us like we look at indon and bangala...so who cares....

So to all experienced migrators, can you suggest a few local agents to me? Thanks in advance.

I have already done a online assesment with one of the oversea. But freaking expensive bout aud6K. convert and u get around 18k myr...

I want to make changes to my life. I have checked in the jobstreet.com.my against careerone.com. 100 against 1500 for my job. Obviously my job is rare here. I m moving on. and i try to apply for penang job, sorry my job is not required there.......i hv tried for the past one year...i hv put minus 1k to my current pay and stil no interview for me even i lied bout the place i stay(sorry have to) all of u ll understand..

I've been in UK for 3 years & now being back to Malaysia.Just to say i still prefer malaysia. To me, overseas country is not that great as ppl think.

I spend my final year study in Australia. Could have gotten PR if I stay another year doing my Master.

I was in Melbourne that time and I think it is a great place to stay. Nice city, you have chinatown, a greek street, an italian street and etc. Great public transport, you can go anywhere by taking a bus & train. Nice weather too besides the summer. My friends that stay back at Australia are getting at least 60k/year. The tax is around 20%+.

Getting a PR in australia doesn't mean you can't come back to Malaysia. I think to make the PR permanent you just have to stay 2 out of 5years there if i am not wrong.

I spent almost 70% of my adult life overseas and I loved it. I think different people have different preferences.

But I do agree with yieloon up there, having PR does not mean you're cutting off ties with Malaysia. You do have more options however.



This post has been edited by tishaban: Aug 15 2008, 08:34 PM

I'm chinese, non bumi, no degree but diploma. Being developing software for 11 years in Malaysia. Then, go Australia for 3 years until *%^$x@ Microsoft took over! Got retrenched, went back to Malaysia, went jobless for a year by the useless quotas and bumi only vacancies. Being rejected by Malaysian companies because I only have diploma. Most of them prefer degree even from UiTM??. Luckily, a Chicago IT company took me in and spend two years developing aeronautic apps. Now in London, software engineers for robotic company. I don't have any relatives or friends or recommendation when I went to OZ, US or come here to London. Most of them are trust between the companies and their investment in you if they think you're good enough for them, they'll help you all the way from accomodation and work permit but make sure your English and Maths are tough as well.

Any good migration agents to recommend? To Australia...

Big salute.

That's what worry me when thinking of migrating. Any new development in immigration requirement?

hats off to you

Anyone have any new experience to share?

I wish to migrate as well. There are many things here I really do not like. And looking towards Australia... I should have taken an Australian degree instead of a UK one...

Guys, the grass is not always greener on the other side. I was in Aussie before, yes it's a good country but not necessarily better than malaysia in terms of employment. Not many can land a job at reputable companies esp for PR. While there is no racial law as stated by one forumer here, but they definitely prefer whites in general. In Malaysia, I bet you can join reputable companies (except GLCs to some extent) quite easily if you are smart enough (no matter what race are you). The chances to climb a rank is much brighter hence your career development and prospect will be more secured. Look, when I was back here after couple of years experiences in Aussie, immediately I was offered a great role at reputable company. There were many hopping afterwards from one to another and now settling down at MNC with decent position, benefits and salary. Well, I guess experiences in Aussie might help to be where I am today but reflecting about it makes me wonder if I would get the same opportunity if I opted to stay in Aussie. I got one close friend (second generation PR) who couldn't secure a good job even after graduated at good uni, came back to Malaysia and being offered a decent job at Shell. Now after 8 years, he is still here. So, please think wisely before migrating. I would say if you have nothing to lose, then it would be a good experiences to gain while at Aussie but if you have everything to lose, think thoroughly before you give up everything you have built over here. Please note, I'm only discussing and comparing about employment market here ....

When the whites own a company they could not explicitly say that that they will discriminate. They do that by inventing stuff like for oil and gas companies, co-efficent and hiring point as well as cost of living, so even when you make RM20K here which is big for a local, the whites will make 30K USD with all taxes paid by the company. No one is stopping anyone from migrating, but look at it this way, the grass is always greener on the other side. Australian taxes aren't cheap it cost together with their employee's provident fund, as much as 50% of your salary. I should know I'm in charge of the finanicals for the operations in Australia. I'm running in remotely from Malaysia.

You may be a big fish in a small pond over there, but once you're into your 2nd and 3rd generation, they will loose all their hard work, strong will and character. That's when they become australians, americans and brits. Think long term... not short term. If you want to make your money insist on making malaysia your base and travel everywhere. That is what a real good job allows you to do.

This post has been edited by Tfazuin: Nov 11 2010, 09:35 AM

Tfazuin,

So??

1) Case A:

Discrimination is ILLEGAL. You can sue and fight back in court if you can prove it. You have a FIGHTING CHANCE.

2) Case B:

Discrimination is LEGAL and SUPPORTED by the government.

Which is WORSE??

<< You may be a big fish in a small pond over there, but once you're into your 2nd and 3rd generation, they will loose all their hard work, strong will and character. That's when they become australians, americans and brits. >>

3) So?? I see PLENTY of LAZY and COMPLACENT Malaysians too... And, as per my own first hand observations, I would say the percentage of LAZY people in Malaysia is much much more than those countries...

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Nov 11 2010, 11:12 AM

agree with dreamer, try to read this link.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-10/s...e-in-tears.html
I guess all the statistic shows how hard the situation is in Malaysia. No drastic change will be implemented in neither short term nor long term. pathetic...

proud of ya! I wish I can do so ... but my degree isn't recognized else where other than Malaysia ; (

I agree with Tfazuin. Make Malaysia your base and sell to the world