Why Australia ah?

Aren't the taxes insane?

Ozzie tax is insane, but they give back to the people who are in need. I don't mind to pay higher tax if it is manage by a good government.
Please do homework on what is the benefit you can get with PR status.

but it's hard to get a job there, isn't it?

why you bring/follow up a thread dated back to year 2010, 3 years ago?

if you have question, start a new thread.

I mind paying ~30% tax while seeing Australians lining up at centrelink for their unemployment benefits but with no real intention to get a job. ie. living off unemployment benefits (paid by my taxes)

I see your point. Most people don't wanna pay high tax, including me either.
Yeah, i just went to register medicare and centrelink and do saw so many people lining up almost everyday.
However, just that maybe restrict a bit on the unemployment but increase the higher chance of getting a job.
I know ah moh is quite laid back but does this affect their productivity?

Taxes are more than just unemployment benefits ... you need to check what proportion of it goes to unemployment benefits.. I think a huge portion goes to health care and childcare...

Unemployment benefits are inevitable. Yes, there are ppl who exploit them, but there are also ppl who are genuinely couldn't find a job. Unemployment benefit is better to exist than not ... if these ppl don't get what they need for bare survival, they will rob. It will just create more social problems!! So it's either, unemployed + less crime; or unemployed + more crime. Take your pick.

Also, unemployment benefits protect you too when you're fired.. think of it as your own job insurance..

This post has been edited by TSOM: May 5 2013, 02:03 AM

normally how do ppl get their PR?
Is it certain requirements that u need to work there for a numbers of years? or is there any kind of agents that do this stuff for u??
thanks in advance

Common misconception.

No, if you own property and your savings are above a certain amount you get 0 from Centrelink. This is called "means testing"

Thus if you have a mortgage and a car to pay off and lose your job. You're on your own bucko. That's why I still fork out nearly a thousand a year on unemployment, redundancy, injury and disability insurance.


Usually it depends on what visa you come in with in the first place. You can get a PR upon arrival if you've been granted a permanent visa offshore.

Generally Australia's new system doesn't take into account how many years you've lived here to grant you a PR. You can work here for 10 years, but after your visa is up, balik kampung tanam jagung. It only takes into account verifiable work experience.

So if you come here on a 2 year temp visa and spend 1 year looking for professional work and after 1 year of work you want to apply for PR, you might be short on points. Best is to come via sponsorship, whereby a relative or company sponsors you. (Relatives include siblings, parents or children)

Then that is worse.
Imagine if that unemployment system is implemented in Malaysia....finish.
That is why many young Aussie are exploiting the system, not wanting to work and living off centrelinks benefits!

This post has been edited by robertchoo: May 7 2013, 12:34 PM

Aye. Dole bludgers are everywhere. And now being overweight is a "disability" which you can now get disability pension/payments for. Shit.

Mind you I pay 37.5 percent tax. Soon to go up with 1 percent increase. Well, thank gawd for negative gearing with the ATO.

Serious?!?!
The i should migrate to Aus and enjoy my overweight disability payments on top of my unemployment benefits!!!!

If you mean being in need as in some fat bogan chick with 4 sprogs at a tender age of 21 living with her "defacto" to milk benefits then yes, the government is very good at giving out the dole

Remember that all PR benefits have a waiting period of 2 years. But you do get Medicare straight up.



That was my plan too after getting my citizenship, but packing that many pounds on has proven to be a serious challenge.

Either way, means testing will mean that anyone with a middle class income is on their own if shit hits the fan. Suggest insurance, I mean I already have home loan insurance, home and contents insurance, income protection insurance, health insurance (after you get 80k a year if you don't have this the government gets Julia Gillard to personally come to your house and punch you in the nuts), car insurance dan lain lain lah.

That sounds alright ... If you own IKEA and unemployment, the government can't be giving you unemployment benefits right???


have to start checking my country liao and see what's the limit ....

Then start voting and change your government (AUS version) ....

This post has been edited by TSOM: May 7 2013, 07:01 PM

wow.. i never knew there are various types of visa.. different country different visa??
to be honest bro, i have never ever been to oversea either..so actually how to apply and where?? sorry

empire23

For a PR-holder, how many days per year does he have be in Australia in order to qualify for a citizenship??

Yes, different visas exist for different purposes.

Your visa will determine how long you can stay, what you can or cannot do and so forth.

If you wish to apply, go to www.immi.gov.au

Different visas have different requirements, some visas need you to have 5 million AUD to invest before residency is granted, some merely need you to graduate from say UITM or something liddat.

A total of 3 years with a minimum of 1 year (365 days) as a PR visa holder. The other 2 years can be under a Temp visa.

I just got my PR January 2013. Went to Perth 2 weeks ago to apply centrelink and medicare. When i step into centrelink, saw lots of 'refugee' type people and bogans everywhere. Not that i'm discriminating or what, it's just that a cash handout, who don't want?
Queuing up for medicare is crazy ....so many people!!! Queue for 1 hour end up can't register coz not residing in Oz yet, so balik rumah come 4 2nd time when you have permanent address.
Heard my friends paying loads of insurance too. GOvernment tend to lift up their loads to the people.

I am actually a fresh grad PR in Sydney but returning to KL to work. Have been hunting for a decent job for about 5 months now without any success.

Do you think I'm making a mistake?

My plan is to return in about 2 years time once I've accumulated some work experience though..

What for?
If you're comming back and doing well in Malaysia, is there a need to go back to Australia and start all over again?
And If you're not doing well in Malaysia, what makes you think you can do well in Australia?

You will forfeit your 2 years of experience in Malaysia if you return to Australia (as Australia does NOT recognise non-Australian work experience) and you will STILL end up battling hordes of unemployed fresh grads, foreigners, etc.

And yes, I think you did make a mistake if you are sincere in asking for opinion.
You wasted 5 months of your life looking for a job in Australia. Time which you will never get back.