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Nemesis1980
post May 3 2013, 05:06 PM

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Ozzie tax is insane, but they give back to the people who are in need. I don't mind to pay higher tax if it is manage by a good government.
Please do homework on what is the benefit you can get with PR status.
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post May 4 2013, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ May 3 2013, 06:01 PM)
I mind paying ~30% tax while seeing Australians lining up at centrelink for their unemployment benefits but with no real intention to get a job. ie. living off unemployment benefits (paid by my taxes)
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I see your point. Most people don't wanna pay high tax, including me either.
Yeah, i just went to register medicare and centrelink and do saw so many people lining up almost everyday.
However, just that maybe restrict a bit on the unemployment but increase the higher chance of getting a job.
I know ah moh is quite laid back but does this affect their productivity?
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post May 9 2013, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ May 7 2013, 05:04 PM)
If you mean being in need as in some fat bogan chick with 4 sprogs at a tender age of 21 living with her "defacto" to milk benefits then yes, the government is very good at giving out the dole laugh.gif

Remember that all PR benefits have a waiting period of 2 years. But you do get Medicare straight up.
That was my plan too after getting my citizenship, but packing that many pounds on has proven to be a serious challenge.

Either way, means testing will mean that anyone with a middle class income is on their own if shit hits the fan. Suggest insurance, I mean I already have home loan insurance, home and contents insurance, income protection insurance, health insurance (after you get 80k a year if you don't have this the government gets Julia Gillard to personally come to your house and punch you in the nuts), car insurance dan lain lain lah.
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I just got my PR January 2013. Went to Perth 2 weeks ago to apply centrelink and medicare. When i step into centrelink, saw lots of 'refugee' type people and bogans everywhere. Not that i'm discriminating or what, it's just that a cash handout, who don't want?
Queuing up for medicare is crazy rclxub.gif ....so many people!!! Queue for 1 hour end up can't register coz not residing in Oz yet, so balik rumah come 4 2nd time when you have permanent address.
Heard my friends paying loads of insurance too. GOvernment tend to lift up their loads to the people. doh.gif
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post May 9 2013, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(monev88 @ May 9 2013, 04:42 PM)
I am actually a fresh grad PR in Sydney but returning to KL to work. Have been hunting for a decent job for about 5 months now without any success.

Do you think I'm making a mistake?

My plan is to return in about 2 years time once I've accumulated some work experience though..
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Well my friend. Your this decision i did it 10 years ago. I came back from Sydney end up working salary at RM1600/mth. Look for job like 1mth +
I didn't apply PR thinking that malaysia is a place for me to fulfill my dream. 10 years past...luckily i got my PR this year.
You could try to work in malaysia environment but don't expect they pay you same salary in Aust. Stress and humiliating words from work is normal. Working long hours and don't expect any union fight for your rights.
5 months job hunting in malaysia is not a norm. i guess maybe your expected salary is abnormal?!? biggrin.gif
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post May 9 2013, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(monev88 @ May 9 2013, 05:41 PM)
Well I would love to continue living in Australia(and keeping my PR), hence the 2 year timeframe before I return to fulfill my visa requirements.

Unfortunately not having a professional job is not an option for me - my justification is I'd rather build up professional skills in Malaysia than work in a dead-end part-time job with no prospects of progression. After looking for about 3 months in Sydney with no success, I started applying for jobs in KL at the same time and recently secured a job in KL.

Do you think Australian companies use the non-Australian work experience as an excuse to prevent non-PRs from applying for the job? Also what is the underlying reason for not recognizing overseas work experience? Is it the culture-fit or the industry knowledge?

The reason I ask is because the area I will be working in is sort of specialized, and the regulatory bodies around the world adopts a standardized framework.
Did you secure a job before you moved back to Australia? If you did, was it difficult to secure one?

I was actually job-hunting in Australia. I could not apply to any grad programs before because I got my PR too late. And I was unsuccessful in applying for ad-hoc full time jobs after..
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I have to re-phrase my sentence. I got PR recently only, means that i have yet secure any job in Oz besides Malaysia.
In 2 months time, i'll be heading perth for job hunting. Did some research and saw quite a number of jobs in my profession. Now, the question is do they recognize my experience here in Malaysia?
The feedback given to me so far is that they don't really recognize besides Ozzie experience. So this should answer your overall question.
I think you're still young and still can continue job hunting in Oz. If not, might end up like me with 10 years experience not recognise by Oz company eventhough i'm graduate and working the same profession.
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post May 10 2013, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(TSOM @ May 10 2013, 12:09 AM)
Australian system is so different from the rest of the world...
Normally you need to be in a country for a few years before applying to for a PR...
Other countries will only issue you a work permit if you've never lived in the country..

How do you qualify for a PR?? Where do you score??
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I applied offshore, subclass 175 just before skillselect. I graduated from sydney but the main score is from work experience which i score 15points.
I just try luck if it hit a jackpot and yes we had it.
I just feel worried by now coz job hunting is the main concern to any new immigrants. Startup with shitty jobs 1st, other hand looking on your job profession.
But the main reason is the children education. I don't mind to work shitty jobs but just that children education is much more important.
My main question is since Ozzie job is so hard to get, how come the government still listing short skill? To earn immigrants money? sad.gif
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post May 10 2013, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(TSOM @ May 10 2013, 08:49 AM)
then why don't you start your own company, like opening a malaysian restaurant??  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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haha, good idea!i was thinking that way too. Saw they sell wantan mee or laksa got so many branch around!The raw food material is cheap somemore but selling good price per dish rclxms.gif
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post May 10 2013, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ May 10 2013, 10:51 AM)
7-11 nightshift pays pretty well. And I'm not kidding.

Kids education will cost money and remember that as a new migrant you cannot claim FTB (Family Tax Benefit) via Centrelink (waiting period tested), so your costs will be high. I personally would save up enough money for 1 year of living. That's the around the time taken for most to get a job.

The government is listing those skills because the mining industry wants to drive costs down, so business lobbying groups keep pushing for more migration because they don't want to pay the prevailing rate for engineers. I'm lucky to have started with 80k a year when I graduated, but now, you're lucky if you can get 50k as a freshie engineer even while working in the field.

Also migration is good for the government. Why?

- No need to pay for your childhood education
- No need pay for your university fees
- No need to pay for your social welfare
- No need to chase HECS debt
- Instant tax paying citizen

Because it costs the government around 1 million dollars in investment to bring an Aussie into the professional workforce from birth. An immigrant costs 0 dollars. They pay the government lol.
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Yeah, there's 2 years period. Anyway, maybe work for nightfillers.
You're right on the government. They're quite calculative on this. Professional immigrants is a ready-trained and contribute to the country with lifestyle in return.
When you claiming more from centrelink, they'll start making noise. One of my friend who actually stayed in Tasmania and sending children for education. He's not working but claiming centrelink. I don't know how he do it but it's true that centrelink calling almost every week asking him to look for job. Yet he's not that rich but the children is in uni now.
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post May 10 2013, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ May 10 2013, 01:06 PM)
It might not be as good as you think.
Businesses in Australia runs on high opex.
Imagine, labour alone will cost you a bomb at A$15 p/h for waiter and more for cooks.
Then there is the maintenance of your shop and equipments which also cost way more than in M'sia.
Rental is also not cheap. Labour is also erratic and some people just don't turn up for work (happens frequently)
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Yeah, that's a common problem there. Well, that can be settle no problem
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post Aug 30 2013, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jul 8 2013, 05:01 AM)
Nothing wrong with welding and driving lifts. No point in having an NDT cert if you can't even weld. You wouldn't even pass the exam here tongue.gif

Plus driving a forklift isn't something I do everyday, BUT if I need something from racking or need to move stuff, I'm expected to do it myself instead of wasting the storeman's time, which saves on labour.

If you have the right skillset and know people, getting a job here isn't an issue. A person with an EnE postgrad, EEM ticket and with an electrician's license will get paid around 200k AUD a year out in the mines with a 5/5 roster.
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Yo, i always wanna drive a forklift but never have the chance. Thinking of getting a license cost me AUD300

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post Aug 31 2013, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Aug 30 2013, 04:49 PM)
It's a good idea especially if you're in the construction industry and have the need to move gear around.

There are a lot of other tickets that are useful, but I'm not sure what would apply to your industry.
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you know i really like the bobcat very much. actually i do request contractor to let hv a try but too bad. there's no open space for me to handle it.
i'll see how can i get a license for that. i know it's not expensive to get 1 but just that where's the opportunity to drive one?

 

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