Hello everyone,
do someone got play this sport b4? I play at Prima Setapak. Wanna come and play?

ME Daniel Lai then u ask them Daniel Lai then they know already.

So how stay near setapak?

They will open at 4:30pm-2:00 but sometime a bit late.

ah? inside prima setapak? howm uch??

not inside u know sky restaurant?? then u walk after sky restaurant u go straight walk walk walk then u see archery let me tak u there if u don't know where u know genting court condo? Call me if u come 03-40247399 (Daniel) Student RM5, over 18 RM7 n' Membe 4.50

Membe
1 year RM20
3 year RmForget liao
lifetime RM50 Maybe

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Added on January 16, 2008, 5:41 amNObody intrested?

This post has been edited by daniel_lai96: Jan 16 2008, 05:41 AM

what? is it a shop overthere or outdoor? you play alone? never heard that setapak got archery sport.... i am interested leh.....got equipment include for use or not? if i want to buy this kind equipment, where can i buy it? any good suggestion?

of cause dont be too expensive because i am new, got around RM500 or not??

Woah.. Finally found a place for archery. Anyways, this thread dont seems active. Sorry for bumping it up. I was once a student (member) of KIAA (Kuching Indoor Archery Academy), finished their basic and junior traning. Got the basic and knowledge of proper archery shooting. I just wander, is there any archery academy or center near PJ area? Because im going to to continue my study at UTAR i feel like to continue my archery training. So, i would like to know is there any place i can go for traning. Any advise will be well appreciated.

fuwaa..archery...it has been a long time since ive gone to archery.. 5 years ago i think..now, all the arrows bengkok already, my bow i gave it to Melaka Archery Association..the bow was beginners bow with 32 pound rating..

it is a sport that demands a lot of concentration especially when you have released more then 200 arrows per session.. mind over matter...

my advise is to find some bicycle tube.. cut it and make a loop and train your draw form in front of a mirror.. when you got your form right, then you can try the real thing...

what i did back when i was in archery is study videos from someone that is good.. and look at how they draw the arrow..try to replicate it..but in the end, you will have your own style/form..get the basics right first..



p/s = im a noob already..just sharing my experience..

@huh?
Woah.. Got ur own bow? Thats is great.. Duh! I wish to have one. By then, 32pound? Thats quite tight. I was on 24pound when i first start and up til 30.

Draw tyre? Haha.. Different method. When the time i start joined, i was been force to draw the bow with string and without arrow for 2months then i can go for the real thing. Went practice 3 times a week. 3 hours per session. Draw till muscle claim.

i use to have a compound bow 2, it is 38 pound if im not mistaken...

drawing an empty bow is dangerous and not suitable for beginners.. cause if you accidentally release the empty bow, the bow will eventually crack...so it is better using tyre than a bow.. furthermore, you can bring it anywhere unlike a bow and it is more convenient.

anyone here goes hunting with bow? wanna learn this stuff...damn fun

i played archery for 4 years.. just for you info. well i bought the equipment at UFL. not sure where it is located right now cause i heard to already moved somewhere else. i got myself hoyt matrix for around 2k and hoyt g3 44lbs, also around 2k. roughly total price 5k++ including shibuya sight, beiter stabilizer etc.
as for early training, i agreed that u should get yourself a bicycle tube or something. if u want tips on archery i will gladly help.

RM5 include equipments anot

Yeeesh! Another archery thread after the previous ones died away

There are actually special rubberbands for sale to serve this purpose. Price was RM10 at 2004, should be still about the same Then again, there's always differences between that and the real thing Archery's feeling is just.....

Woah, those are nice stuffs

I currently own a W&W with this and that equipments - left at home collecting dust Where is this Prima Setapak? I'm from Sarawak currently studying at INTI SJ, so basically I don't know the areas here. Hope to continue shooting, regret so much for giving it up Anywhere around here or places easily accessible by public transportations? Now I'm working part-time at Stars Archery @ Sunway Pyramid, but it's freaking really really short distance :-\ And well, work, don't get much chances to shoot either.

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Added on June 2, 2008, 11:34 pmOh btw, SUKMA is going on. Surprised to not find any SUKMA thread at this section. Wonder if there'll be any record being broke this year

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Added on June 2, 2008, 11:35 pm

SUKMA's archery mascot

This post has been edited by Crazy.SoT.Gila: Jun 2 2008, 11:35 PM

Sukma 2008 terengganu.. a few of my friends participated in archery. their score for 90m and 70m men also 70m and 60m women already published last night. They did well. Today is 50m and 30m, hope all of them perform better than yesterday. anyway it has been a week since the last time i train. i think i'm going to get myself a new gear today. i heard the coach of UIA already open an archery shop near shah alam, so i'm going to take a look.

p/s: I'm not sure if there's any archery range nearby SJ. i try to ask some of my affiliate, maybe they'll show us the light.

can i ask where can buy bow and arrows... wanna start this sport

Today's result is out now too! Pulau Pinang and Sarawak tied with number of medals

Hmm.. Shah Alam..can reach by KTM 1 right

Er, just wanna start and you wanna buy already? Why not try it out at some archery centers first, then only get it?

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Added on June 3, 2008, 9:22 pmSeems like the results were updated again... Sarawak leading

This post has been edited by Crazy.SoT.Gila: Jun 3 2008, 09:22 PM

hmm cuz i wanna see where got sell then maybe get 1 to keep....dunit to keep renting haha

hurm.. in kl there are 2 shops selling archery equipment, UFL and Lion Archery.. you can surf their website to find out more. well, i discarded my hoyt matrix and g3 limb. I just got myself new riser, inno carbon, and inno power limb (W&W). Not sure whether it was worth it. Tomorrow will be a busy day to prepare the string for the new bow, adjust center shot etc.. ah...

Sarawak is strong in archery, honestly. Their form is beautiful and steady, back in 2004 something. Not sure about now. The only sarawak archer that i knew, is one of my friends, kaharudin, otherwise nicknamed kudin. p/s: congrats to him, snatching most of the medals

cassplayer, 5k only complete with full set stab., sight. clicker, arrow rest. still doesn't come with bowstand, quiver. arrows are another story.. really pricey, my X10 priced almost 2k complete with point, nock, fletchers.
Just went to Lion Archery, KAP bow is quite cheap and affordable. KAP riser priced at 400+ compared to Inno Carbon tagged at around 3018 or Hoyt Nexus, 2700+. Just use KAP limb, with KAP riser, full set stabilizer, and cheap sight. I'm sure you can get full set around 1.5k. Just buy cheap arrows for beginner. Please bring someone experienced with archery, in term of selecting correct riser, limb, arrow set (arrows are selected according to limb poundage).

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wat is the CHEAPEST CHEAPEST x1000000000000000000 bow and arrows????

If you want wooden bow set (with limb, sight and arrows), probably around 800. Try to call the shop and ask sorry i couldn't help much

Updates: i forgot i got price list from recent item that i purchased from the shop. cheapest will be samick wooden bow (include limb) rm405, accessories complete, rm292, aluminum arrows around rm200 per dozen complete with fletches,point and nock, hope that'll help

This post has been edited by tidus2k: Jun 4 2008, 06:15 PM

Suggest you develop the passion first, then straight go for an advance bow

Ah nice, inno carbon and inno limbs, that's what...well..i suppose can call them my juniors are using now.

Kudin..sounds very familiar..didn't get the chance to know the state archers cause' I kept quitting and returning so didn't get to advance in regret now..

Miri used to bring up only recurve archers, now bringing up compound archers too for the less-frequent training ones Probably I need to swap to compound, but..recurve just seems much better.. I asked a friend who swapped to compound what he thinks.. He said compound easier to shoot, but no feeling like what recurve provided

Btw, any idea about a school in Keramat? 3 friends of mine currently in sukma got offered there..

hmm i just want the bow and normal arrows.... arrows dun have to be steel or watsoever... those cheap cheap under RM50 arrows for a whole bunch got ar??

trust me, inno carbon feels so much better than my matrix.. thank god hehe.. less vibration using the same stabilizer that i used with my matrix. but inno power limb is quite stiff to draw, but still okay. i bought the inno power limb because i found out that the limb is almost on par with hoyt's new 900CX (testing has been made; shown that inno power limb lag only 1fps (ft per sec.) compared to 900CX for the same weight, not sure whether it is true), but lower price tag. hehe

anyway, what type of school? if it is a sport school.. i got no idea.

I'm afraid that is not possible. the cheapest is aluminum arrow, around rm10 per shaft. (but usually they sell it a dozen so rm120). you need nock around rm1 each, point around rm3 each and cheapest fletches for rm25.00 per packet (usually contain 50 fletches).



This post has been edited by tidus2k: Jun 6 2008, 12:06 PM

errr i think i saw a bow in melaka b4.. but is those bow they sell in bazzar... not for sports type...

not for sports? traditional bow?

That's the difference between Hoyt and W&W

I think it's a sport school, they gotta train archery there.

Didn't know aluminum arrows were that cheap I thought the cheapest would be about RM30/shaft

I have used W&W limb before, but that was years before. it really stiff. I thought that newest W&W limb is easier to draw like G3. Btw, our national archers already use 900CX limb. From what I heard, they said it feels great. Not sure in what aspect is great. I feel satisfy with my current inno power. Probably going to keep it for a long time,

erm, keramat have archery field. ATM Open Tournament often held in Keramat (Keramat AU). maybe your friend trains there.
Easton Aluminum Jazz Arrow is rm10 pershaft, but cartel aluminum shaft priced higher.

Anyway, what kind of bow that you use?

anywhere got sell those normal bow and arrow they use for hunting??? want 1 set to keep... very yeng... arrow the wooden or watever wan... those cheap 1's

you meant long bow with wooden arrows ar? http://www.woodbows.com/cedararrows_30.html and http://www.woodbows.com/elb.html
if you look at the price, it almost the same with target bow.

try to find market near a native tribe. maybe they got one.

This post has been edited by tidus2k: Jun 7 2008, 10:43 AM

hmmm if i go back melaka the bazaar still got then i maybe wan buy... but go where buy those wooden arrows... i wan the cheapest good arrows.... for hunting those type... and the arrow holder.. very cool

arrow holder? you mean quiver. a cheap one is around rm25. you can make it yourself. if wooden arrows are not being sell here, try to make your own. (be careful if you make it yourself. if the poundage of bow is high, and the deflection of arrows when you release too high, cause the stress to exceed the yield stress point, it will break. some cases it will hit your hand for serious injury.)

the barrel looking thing u sling around ur back is called quiver? how to make arrow??? i dunno wor..... but where to get those wood

yupe, that is quiver. back then people sling it in the back, now just put it near your hip (at your side)
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php they have discussion on how to make arrows. they also discussed on how to make bows, point, etc.

i'm not interested in long bow or primitive bow, therefore i never bothered to try to make it myself. better stick to my recurve bow. you can find the material at the most of the furniture factories. that goes the same for metal, you might find hollowed shaft of aluminum in small size. i forgot the name of the company supply the raw material (i bought most of material for my engineering project, but that was a year ago).

if you do make the wooden arrows, dont use the arrows for recurve or compound bow, obviously

This post has been edited by tidus2k: Jun 7 2008, 02:54 PM

lols i am at the forum now... learning half way

Naa, it's still the same Some things just don't change that much

Hmm, I see. Is that place any where near SJ?

thought Easton's arrows would be more expensive..hmm..guess not.. I use W&W riser and limbs..can't remember which model though. Cartel sight, cartel (i think) plunger...and...probably cartel again stabilizer.. it's now back home collecting dust

but now ppl use compound for hunting

yeah a thread for archery! I've started archery like 5 years ago but i had to stop during the 5 years in college, no club and no kaki. I had a Merlin Supernova Compound Bow tuned at 50 lbs which the draw length is way to short for me (my draw at 29" - 30", the bow is at 26") which is bought 2nd hand.

Used to train in Ipoh's Royal Perak Archers and Shooters Club (the club is kinda in a sorry state now) if anyone in this thread could be helpful to send me details all about archery arnd Slgr or KL area (e.g. tourneys, ranges and stores), feel like picking it up again......

Near SJ? Probably UPM is the nearest. Currently I reside in Shah Alam because I just got a job here (I'm in final year, will be graduating in somewhere Q3 this year), but I still train in UPM. Other than that, probably there is no archery field that I know near SJ. Not sure about UiTM.

Yeah, a lot of people use compound for hunting. Rarely use recurve bow for hunting (like Hoyt selling hunting recurve, slightly short compared to competition recurve).
I also use cartel sight for current bow, shibuya dual click for Hoyt Matrix. used beiter stabilizer before and now cartel carbon stabilizer (the cheapest one, but with cartel triple weight damper add on). as for plunger button, shibuya. i dont like beiter plunger, it seems too expensive. price >rm500 for plunger button seem really..
If you got W&W exfeel, keep it. I think it is a fine riser.

Probably you've known this, you can tune your bow to suit your own draw length at nearby archery shop. not sure about its fee... there are two archery shop that I know.
as for archery range in selangor.. probably in kepong have one archery field, if not mistaken. In keramat, kl also have, which often open tournament held there, but I'm not sure whether it is open to public or not during normal weekdays or weekends.

This post has been edited by tidus2k: Jun 8 2008, 07:02 AM

i suspect daniel lai and blitz is the same person.... cuz daniel lai's nick name is called blitzboy

Hmm, I dont think so... Daniel invites us to play at Prima Setapak, while blitz000 asks where are the range around KL and Selangor.

This post has been edited by tidus2k: Jun 8 2008, 01:52 PM

maybe wanna make the thread alive??? anyway where to get those long bow and wooden arrow... i hope to get under RM200 =.=

Hmm.. Will do some geographical research to see if it's wise to bring my bow here It's open to public daily?

I thought beiter stabilizer is the best? Or at least one of the best? Changed for the additional weight? Ah, shibuya plunger is good.. YEP! THAT'S IT! EXFEEL! I got a silver one I don't really know differences between risers though, haven't experience enough..but the inno carbon's look...damn nice For my limbs would be WINEX (just checked W&W site ) 70". Had a 68"...can't remember the model name before..but I grew taller

I dont know if it open to public, but I'm sure you'll be welcomed. You have a great bow, and great limb.
Differences between risers.. depend on the materials it been made, and also the mechanism that been implemented. For example; latest Hoyt product, you can adjust the alignment using washer, and guaranteed no limb twist at certain tolerance. Cheap risers usually prone to limb twist, not sure about the latest cheap risers from KAP. The material and design determine the weight and the 'feel' when you shot using the arrows. The feel also affected by limb.

If you grew taller again, it's going to be difficult lol. you might have to find 27" riser. surely you have a long draw length. (just like one of my colleague, 31" draw length) i think long draw length is cool

Beiter is one of the best, i got to admit. it did make a difference using beiter with aluminum risers. but as you already know, Inno Carbon is made from carbon, and it is better than aluminum in vibration absorption. I believe that the riser itself can compensate anything that lack in current stabilizer which is inferior to the beiter stabilizer.
Sorry, what i meant by "changed for the additional weight" is i change the existing weight with the higher weight. The 1st time I tried it, without any adjustment to stabilizer, the bow feels so light, which I'm not used too. I put additional weight (cartel triple weight add weight and act as a damper. it has rubber inside it) on the stabilizer. unlike beiter, you can adjust the position of the 3 weight separately but unfortunately damper cannot be added. correct me if i'm wrong.

Tomorrow, I'll make a new string for my new bow, but using cross strand method --> not sure its name. It adds more energy in arrows, at least for me. my sight is higher using these kind of string even it is 20 strands.

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Aha, I did read a bit about limb twisting and easier tuning. Limb twisting is seen by the bow string going out of the center line right? I'm quite noob in the technical stuffs Heck, this is embarrassing, I didn't even know that there's lengths for the risers too, thought it was only for the limbs Can't afford another riser though, just too expensive My draw length (last measured) should be 30" or 31", can't really remember. Haven't grew tall much since then, so I guess my current one would serve me well Adding to that is the fact that I haven't really trained for over a year, which has definitely affected by shooting form, causing shorter draw length.

Ah yeah, the carbon, much better vibration absorption. On the other hand, I do think that a damper can be added to Beiter too What's the difference between it (the damper) at the top/bottom of the riser compared to it added to the stabilizer anyways?

Bow strings, never bothered to learn anything in regards to that from my coach, can't understand a bit

By the way, any idea how much a second-hand Easton ACE arrow with point, nock and fletches intact can be sold for? And, I've been having a problem since waaaaaay back, that is I keep having my left arm hit by the string if I were not to use any stabilizers. Not sure for advance bows, since it's just weird not to have stabilizers on it, but it happens while using wooden/plastic (er, it's wholly plastic right, cheap range) bow.

Oh and, another question. The level for the arrow from the string to the arrow rest should be a straight line without any inclination, right? And (guess that makes it 2 questions ), whats the usual length from the string to the plunger (the one measured with T-Ruler, no idea what the proper term is )? Should be ~8.5"-9" right?

erm, sort of. bow string going out of the center line can means whether the limb is twisted OR the alignment of limb is not correct, which can be fix easily. but limb twist cannot be fixed, you have to send it back for exchange. limb twist is when the deflection of limb is not distributed equally on the left and right side of limb, measured from the center. but you can determine it (after alignment of limb is fixed) using your arrows, or any straight small shaft. string your bow, the place an arrow between string and both limb (at the end of limb). look the bow from the bottom, and if both arrows and parallel of each other then there is no limb twist, if it is not parallel, then the limb is twisted. DONT USE X10 arrows, use ACC or NAVIGATOR arrows to determine this.

Dont worry about draw length, as long as arrows are grouping, it is okay..

A damper, on top of the riser or added to the stabilizer? since stabilizer's damper cannot be fitted on riser, (riser's thread is bigger) it is difficult to make a comparison. Damper, also acted like weight. KAP FDW (damper, fitted to riser) is better than my cartel triple weight (fitted to stab.) But using damper at riser, make the center of gravity close the riser, it rotates left side or right side easily when you release an arrow (caused by incorrect pressure point of bow arm). that's why if archers using damper on riser, the stabilizer weight also need to be raised. If the center of gravity is in front of bow, the less arrows goes to left or right because it is more difficult for the bow to rotate.

The closer the center of gravity to the bow, the easier the bow can be affected. If the form is really2 good, then it is okay.

What are your desired arrow size (stiffness)? I'll to ask my friends if there is any unwanted arrows. 2nd hand arrows complete maybe around rm600++ not sure. I also was looking for 2nd hand arrows, my X10 size 600 is not stiff enough for my current bow. (Overspine), even with the adjustment of plunger button, but still no luck. I was looking X10 arrows with size of 550 or ACE size of 570, 28" of arrow length. If no stab. for cheap bow, of course the string will hit your hand, because of high vibration. It happens to me too, whereby using the wooden bow, the string 100% always hit my hand.

i supposed that means arrow level from nocking point to arrow rest. erm, the nocking point should be 2-4mm above the arrow rest level. if i'm not mistaken, in some guide says otherwise, nocking point is place above the arrow rest, and the distance is determined by difference is distance of upper tiller height and lower tiller height. I stick to the usual, 2-4mm above the level of arrow rest. sorry, my explanation might be confusing
the usual length from the string to the plunger is called brace height. I always set it at 23.1cm, since yours is 70" suppose to be around 22.5 to 24.5cm or something. in inches it should be around 9" to 9.6". if you set it too low, arrows going out of bow fast, but will have problem grouping the arrows.


p/s: I feel satisfied with my current bow, really smooth, low noise. a little but overspine but maybe i dont have to buy new arrows. currently I use 110g easton break off point. maybe I'll break off 10g or 20g to see whether it'll fix overspine problem.

This post has been edited by tidus2k: Jun 11 2008, 03:26 PM

I thought X10 arrows are small? Cool, didn't know can test it that way. Btw, what's the side effects of not unstringing the bow?

Woah, center of gravity I thought dampers for stabilizers and risers can be interchanged? Did it last time...or maybe my memory is not serving me right. By triple weight you mean the 3-rod stabilizer right?

Not actually looking for arrows, just wondering how much I can sell it off for, if I plan to do so. Mine would be ACE 570. Length should be 31". So that's around RM50 per arrow? Heck, can't even remember what's the price for new ones already What's overspine?

Aha, and I thought I was the only one facing that problem. 'cause it started happening only a few months after my training, so I thought I was doing something wrong, but never got to figure it out. Gosh, why didn't I think of the high vibration So much to learn...

What?! Above the arrow rest? But then wouldn't the arrow be facing down? I always thought that it's supposed to be at the same level, so the arrow would be straight..

Btw, what's a good fingertab? I've been using Angel all along. It's a bit torn IIRC, I might be getting a new one when I'm back. Really miss shooting

X10 size is really small. i was wondering why in tournament, people would ask me, "why is that your arrows is small?". haha.. I have ACE arrows and NAVIGATOR besides X10, (all of them sponsored including hoyt matrix).. comparing 3 type of arrows X10 is very good especially for 70m, but is doesn't forgive mistake unlike ACE. side effect of not unstringing bow? you mean just left it after shoot..? haha... your limb lifespan will shorten because of constant strain effect, in some limb, the poundage will reduce quickly over time.. other than that.. I'm not sure.. by the way, triple weight is a name for cartel product. it is a damper actually, well anyway it cant be interchange with the riser's, at least mine cannot.
eh, got 3 rod stabilizer? i always thought there is always 4 rod. beiter got 4 rod also...

yupe, rm50 per arrows seem reasonable (including point and nock, preferably unfletched), but if it is really in good condition, probably you can raise it a bit.. btw, how much arrows do you have? I also doesn't know current arrows price. you dont know about overspine or underspine? i'm surprise there is no one ever mention this to you. You know that criteria of selecting arrows depend on the poundage of bow, also the draw length right? Overspine happens when you use a limp arrows (softer or higher arrow size) with a heavier poundage than it is intended; and vice versa for Underspine. Let say I was suppose to use 570, but I use 600 instead, resulting whipper arrow when released. you can compensate with adjustment of plunger button. Incorrect bow setting can lead to adjusting sight left or right on different distance. (mine just have to adjust up and down) I just know, why overspine occured in my case. I just got new riser right, with 42lbs limb. I was adjusting it's tiller height. But unfortunately I dont have gauge to calculate the poundage, and end up with 46lbs, which really WAY OFF for my arrow size. Testing was made, even with highest stiffness of plunger button, arrows still grouping at the right side, and more to the right as i increase the shooting distance with the sight remain untouched. (indicate of overspine) reducing poundage to 42lbs makes my arrows grouping at the center.
Ah btw, it is says that it is better to use a stiffer (one size stiffer) arrows compared to the recommended.

Rarely using advance recurve bow, the string hit my hand. if it does hit, i wouldn't notice it, not until i went back home and saw a very small bruise on my hand. this is because sometimes i forgot to wear armguard I think if the string hit your hand while using wooden bow w/o stab., it might indicate your form is still good. unlike me, 3 month didn't train, couldn't pull 46lbs more than 36 arrows.

yeah, i have confirmed it above the arrow rest for 2-4mm. it would be facing down a little bit. it helps the clearance of the arrow. well, i dont think it is really a big deal, if you have set it in the middle, it is still okay. I have seen people set 4mm below arrow rest, but still can get 110 point (12 arrows) in olympic round of some competition in KL in last 2 years. try to test your bow, using bare shafts (unfletched arrows), at the target butt, if you see your arrow like this \ nocking point too high, / nocking point too low. but, using the setup as i mentioned above, it eliminates arrow clearance problem, (at least mine).

I'm sorry, for fingertab i always use W&W 360, i never tried anything else . so i couldnt give you a good suggestion. It was sponsored actually.

This post has been edited by tidus2k: Jun 12 2008, 08:54 AM

Yeah, haha, X10 is really a nice little small arrow. Hmm, does it cause limb twisting? The center I'm working at right now never release their strings, tons of problematic limbs now....still being used

3 rod stabilizer I think got...but not that sure either

Hmm, I see..cause I sold 3 arrows at RM50 each to a friend...and felt that it was very cheap..hmm..guess not.. I'm left with 8 or 9 arrows now..can't really remember.. Yea, no idea about that.. All I know is shooting Didn't really get exposed to technical stuffs. Tuning were all done by coaches. Ah, I understand now. 46lbs from a supposedly 42lbs, now that's cool Mine's only 40lbs

Naa, my form is not good. Tons of problems. Shoulder up, right arm too high, pull fingers kinda awkward, ankle not really fixed, and hell I can't let go of my bow...yes I do mean with finger sling god knows what else right now..

ah I see..guess I recalled wrongly..always thought it should be at the same level..

woah, you seriously have everything sponsored

just want 2 ask u guys what does all the size number on all easton arrows?
a few examples:
for alloy arrows like X7 (e.g. 2014)
for carbon arrows Redline (e.g. 500)
for A/C/C (e.g. 3-18)
for A/C/E (e.g. 720)
for X10 (e.g. 700)

what does all the numbers mean?

No, arrows dont cause limb twisting.. its the limb itself cause twisting. which mean that this is a manufacturing problem...
a week passed since my last training.. huhu, bz with work. maybe someday when I'm free, I can practice.

the numbers represent the stiffness of the arrows, lower number is stiffer. but this number varies with arrow type ex: X10 550 has almost the same stiffness as NAVIGATOR 620.
The type of arrow you should use:
The longer the arrow (using the same poundage), the stiffer the arrow.
The higher the bow poundage (same arrow length) the stiffer the arrow.
Just refer to easton chart to buy arrows.

This post has been edited by tidus2k: Jun 21 2008, 03:34 PM

sunway pyramid got archery ka? how much

Limb twisting question was referring to the effects of not unstringing the bow

Yeah, First Floor, beside the bowling center. Cheapest package is RM9 for 12 arrows. The largest one would be RM99 for 250 arrows. The middle ones I can't remember, paiseh Distance is only 7m. 4m for kids.

oo sorry, because it was very confusing. i cant be perfectly sure, but in my opinion, not unstringing the bow do cause limb twisting. never tried it (never unstring)

Sorry bout the confusion

I guess it does...judging on how most limbs at ... are screwed up

Ooh! An archery thread! Lucky I stumbled upon this! Still lacking a place to shoot. Damnit. Don't want my baby to rot in my bowcase!

why archery is such an expensive sport.. everytime feel like doing archery but at last, i cant afford to buy my own arrow n bow. Even playing at the range thr is quite expensive for me.
I always wish that my hobby is something like football or basketball that at most cost me only around rm500 to enjoy

sadly, it is an expensive sport. I spent a fair bundle on my equipment, but it was damn worth it, indulging in a sport you love (or anything you enjoy for that matter). Shooting at ranges, especially those in shopping malls are really expensive because the rental is a bomb. If you really are interested, i suggest you look for a club at schools/colleges, etc. They should have training programs that and provide equipment and training. Start there and see how it goes from there. Thats how I started out. 8 years down the line, I still enjoy it. Sadly, the centre where i shoot at closed down recently = no place to shoot. Damnit.

but my college no archery club at all..
so sad

aaah.. an archery thread... it's been quite a while since i pick up a bow... well, ever since the doc prevent me from pulling one that is... used to have a hoyt radian riser with a 42lb carbon limb - old school by today's std btw...

archery is expensive, but it's mostly a one time investment except for the arrows, if u keep missing the target...
into paintball now, but damn..! it's way more expensive than archery...

Hey guys, I know this question has been brought up before but I'm doing a friend a favour and he would like to know if there is any outdoor archery ranges within the klang valley. Thanks.

someone plz answer Xannava question.. i am damn interested too.. plz pm me the details.

where can i buy Archery things???

yea, i'm interested to know that.
Where in KL or nearby area that can do archery.
I be moving down to KL and hope i can continue for recreation.

where kl? Try Lions Archery at Kepong. But I would rather figure where to shoot first.

Does anyone know how much archery at sunway pyramid? i think its newly open...

Anyone tried the KAP bows, cos ive ordered a set of it for me to go back to recurve after 5 years of compound? pls do comment on the specs of the bow i've ordered especially on the selection of arrows.

KAP Winstar II (25")
KAP Winstorm (38# - 68")
SHIBUYA Dual Click Sight
SHIBUYA Plunger
CARTEL Super Arrow Rest
CARTEL Ready made Fastflight string
EASTON A/C/E SS Long Stab.
EASTON Redline C2 Arrows (600)


This post has been edited by blitz000: Sep 21 2008, 10:26 PM

ahahah...

KAP brands...not serious sure...but looking at your setup, it seriously a short ATA compound bow.

1. having a short ATA is never forgiving. It makes it hard for you to have all the issue of arrows "fishtailing" even before you can launch it.
I would get somewhere 34" , 36" or for real reason ...unless hunting purpose..which your carbon arrows tells me you don't.

2. 38#- 68", I don't know what this means...but, I assume it's your bow strength...and it should be kinda good for such range, yet again...having long poundage range isn't advisable. Usual range are 20# diff.

3. Shibuya sights...flimsy.
Good manufacturers of Recurves...never like them on compounds...no idea...

4. Cartel super arrow rest...no mechanism on this right?.. drop away?.

5. Easton Stabs....expensive stuff...ahahhaha....i hope the "sand" sound doesn't annoy you everytime you release.

6. Easton Redline...u took "600". Not sure your draw length...or was it 25"...
Redlines carbon arrows are good buys. for "600", I hope you know how much your arrows are going to allow you once you gain shooting poundage.
I know....you can't shoot it under 55# up...for sure...after that.....you'll hurt your arrow and your bow.


I started archery in 2002-2004/05.
I own a Merlin 2k, ATA=41", A-Rapid Cams.
draw length=28.5", with shoot through system.
Spigarelli Magnetico Arrow rest with drop away.
Arten Midas sight
Beiter -replica Stab (Cartel actually)
10 ACC 440 arrows...killed 2, all with spin wings vanes.
10 Beman 440 arrows., normal vanes.. really love them...same dimension and straights as Redlines...but no longer being sold.
and...a "Goose" release/trigger


AND....
a stupid expensive bow stand....

bought it from Lion Archery..and tuned by Mr.Ho...
My advise...bring along someone like me to help you bargain, if you seriously wish to start archery.
Mr.Ho and Philip would rip you off your poor savings...if you don't know what you REALLY need.

I have another person who I'm contact with. A retire Major who sells bow accessories as parts...I buy most of my arrows /stabs from him, coz...he is just plain doing it for his hobby and past time.

For bow setup...Lion Archery. Once you are a little knowledgable like me....
you can branch to more better equipments...and get them from the Major.

Price for good start on Recurve...$2.5k-2.8k....worth one time pain, rather than you regret later that you can't do much with al-cheapo stuff.

Compounds are much serious....$3.5k the least. I got mine at $4k, and it's still well balance til today.

Think about it...if you just want for fun..don't bother...just pay for funpark and shoot.
Archery is a discipline sports...I don't advocate it alot...but there is a lot of discipline involved...
and...back muscle exercise. Believe me..not even Malek Noor can pull a 60# bow...but you can...if you know how to use those back muscles. hihihhi.

btw...no license to keep a bow in Malaysia.

This post has been edited by finkl1: Sep 25 2008, 08:32 PM

Err...funpark? Where's that? Any idea where to shoot arrows? Thanks

Lion Archery has an indoor shooting arena.
Just pay them for membership and you can shoot unlimited...but..you need to get yourself to Kepong all the time, and it's not opened on Sunday...that's another silly thing.
20m range.

else,...
Range shooting you can try in Sunway Piramid. They open everyday. 4th floor just next to bowling center. 6m distance only...WTH.
..

another..
"EXPERT ARCHERY ON 2ND FLOOR, NO 27B, JALAN BOLA JARING - SHOPLOTS IN FRONT OF STADIUM SHAH ALAM MAIN ENTRANCE - IT'S AT THE BACK ROW , FACING THE SCHOOL. LOOK UP FOR THE SIGN BOARD AS THE ROAD SIGN BOARD ARE MISSING."

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Added on September 26, 2008, 7:12 pm

Here's the shop at Shah Alam....some pixs of indoor.
enjoy your trip...Glad there is another dealer aside from LA and Universal Sports.























This post has been edited by finkl1: Sep 26 2008, 07:14 PM

Thanks. How much do they charge in shah alam. And the one at sunway, do they allow us to bring our own bow? Do they have special rates for that? I remember some years ago that they had a bigger range for people to bring their own bow to shoot.

Also do you know any outdoor ranges? Thanks

No idea...my guess is...if you bought your stuff there...they might waive this....The membership varies...if they open Sun...it's a good deal.

Most of the time, you need to pay for the targets, unless you want to bring a semi-cardboard and draw circles yourself.

For Sunway, I heard...they don't allow you to bring your equipments in.
6m...
I mean...no point shooting something above 20#....either you BREAK your arrows shooting such velocity or you don't get any thrill at all...

Those days... I do rent a place to shoot....but on a long run, you need to decide which is nearer for you....

Lion archery isn't quite as spacious as Expert's...and clean. Lotsa stock boxes everywhere.
Mr.Ho told me they are trying to open an indoor somewhere near Kepong mosque...no idea now.
To them..everything is money....i mean..someone needs to pay for the rental...

btw. Wear a sweating attire...or shorts.
There isn't going to be air con in any indoor.
I mean...that's the purpose of exercise right?...sweat. Enjoy.
Let me know if you plan to get into the serious stuff ..equipments...and etc.

I don't sell stuff or am I an agent....but, I know alot of people that started the sports...and then..later felt it was just too much for them.

This post has been edited by finkl1: Sep 26 2008, 10:00 PM

Refer to finkl1 post try expery archery...

You can call Firecat 019 371 8264... he'll point you in the right direction and show you around the shop

BTW if you're just starting out I'd suggest you go for coaching first rather than rush to buy a bow.

I'm planning to take some coaching lessons before buying my first bow

Where are you going to get your coaching lessons?

Archery. Used to crazy about it years ago. Will pick up my bow if I have time to get the cam fix. Or just shoot with recurve first, but my recurve is sucks.

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Added on October 20, 2008, 1:57 pmFor indoor you can try bigshoot archery at Maju Junction Mall, not been there for long time. Don't know it still there or not.

For outdoor you can go to Keramat near Texas Instrument.

This post has been edited by keyser soze: Oct 20 2008, 01:57 PM

Wow... Respects to finkl1 for his unlimited knowledge of local archery :bow:.. I plan to go to Expert Archery tomorrow morning

This post has been edited by Guy Fawkes: Oct 28 2008, 11:04 AM

hai guys i am new here and also involve in archery club in UNIMAS.
as for you all experts out there i have got silly questions to ask,
if i am going to buy the bow and arrows will i have to get license?
if i have to where should i get them?

No need license for bow and arrow.

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Added on October 28, 2008, 10:04 pmHow much is the membership for Expert Archery?

This post has been edited by keyser soze: Oct 28 2008, 10:04 PM

No idea it had a membership... But classes are RM 25 each 4/month (RM 100) or 8/month (RM 200) Pretty cheap.. Equipment included as well..

This post has been edited by Guy Fawkes: Oct 29 2008, 12:09 AM

Is that a 18m range? Do they have bowpress and string jig? Actually I'm looking for a place that I can borrow bowpress and string jig.

maju junction's seems to be closed all the time =.=...
keramat near texas instrument? hmm...
last time when i was training for masum, we trained at the MSN complex setiawangsa.
kak aisah was the trainer

Err... Keyser soze... Bowpress and a string jig? Never seen them before so I have no idea if they have them ==

Never mind, I might go for a look if I have time. Did they open on Saturday and Sunday?







Ops! I think I saw bow press in the photo posted by finkl1

This post has been edited by keyser soze: Oct 29 2008, 08:01 PM

Oh yeah.. There is a bow press.. Yes it's open on saturdays and sundays.. Gonna go there for classes this coming sunday Can't wait!

Are they practicing at 18m range?

wow ! i didnt notice this archery thread until its appear today, im using win&win 38lbs recurve, last time i shoot at Kuala Selangor Stadium, now no more, im setting new archers community in Banting ...

Hmm... I think so.. == I'll check this sunday?

i wish my area has archery community...
used to shoot using w&w and yamaha (both not mine... w&w = university, yamaha = coach)...

Well.. Shah Alam isn't my area either :/ My area is Subang but I still gotta go to Shah Alam but it's not that far.. 10, 15 minutes?

...
driving or public transport...
if driving, kthxbai ...

10, 15 driving... public transport? There's a bus station right in front of Expert Archery

it seems the thread is inactive. but however thanks for clarifying the location of this shop. I knew the guy who opened the shop (Major). A friend of mine, who is also an archer told me that Major's shop is somewhere around Shah Alam's stadium, but I'm unable to find it. Thanks again.

(I have to buy a few items - especially fletchers)

Went to Expert Archery and speak to its owner Encik Puzi, a very nice guy and there is an 18m indoor archery range. Will try to fix my bow over there and trying to buy a dozen of new arrow as well.

keyser are you a compound user?
Anyway, anybody know about the price of items, compared to Lion Archery and UFL? Is it cheaper or almost the same?

This post has been edited by tidus2k: Nov 16 2008, 10:23 AM

I'm mainly compound archer and part time recurve.
Haven't buy any item from any of them yet so cannot tell the price.
But I personally feel like Expert Archery is much honest compare to Lion.

hey guys, is there any archery place at seberang prai, penang??

butterworth ke, or maybe sungai petani.

i'm still 16, well... i need sijil sukan for my spm, and i choose archery, didnt learn anything yet >_> =P

help pls~~