i really prayed hard it's not. i still have rm6k worth at his place, with another rm6k ETA in coming months

When you guys sound so negative about this, SB is probably laughing his head off now. Think about it. If you're SB and you read all of these replies, will you be telling yourself that you've succeed?

It's time for you guys to take some action instead of sitting front of your computers and do nothing.

But, let's say, SB is really conman. I didn't say SB is really conman. But just let's say he is.

He is too good you know. Here is the reason why some forumers still think SB will refund or ship their stuff:

a)Strongbaby met with some forumers - with this he gain trust
b)Strongbaby sold thousands of ringgits of products - if he is fraud, then very hard for us to trust anyone
c)Some forumers get his products - like PSP. This way, some forumers vouch for him. Until now, we can't say he is conman.
d)Strongbaby reply sms and email - this way, some forumers still think he will not run
e)No one checking the police report - until now no one go and check

With all the points above, all the buyer is not united. Some still think SB will refund and that's why
still protecting SB. No one dare to take action because they scared the ship will sink. But according
to RangerRed, the ship already sank. Just that some forumers still have wishful thinking that SB
will refund.

If the above is correct and SB is con artist, means SB is really good.

But if strongbaby is not conman, then he really a bad seller for not replying sms, email or thread.

Conclusion, looks like what RangerRed say is true.

Just wait for heroes99 bring the report....

...from "Shooter"

As a general rule, now of days I do not believe in paying in full or perhaps set a limit as to what you are prepared to write off in case the Seller is a conman.

My previous experience was with a trader at Lelong and subsequently in Low Yat was that he would offer cheap processor. In fact he will actually send you the first processor. After that he will offer more things for sale always at a cheaper price and that is where he goes for the kill. I banked in about RM600 to get a second processor and he sent me an empty box. I made a complaint to Lelong which gave his a dispute tag. He later contacted me to remove the tag and he refunded my money.

But unknown to me he had in fact caught a bigger fish, I think an amount of RM6,000 banked in by another forumer in LowYat and the dispute tag was removed so that he could proceed to con the bigger fish. That is the beauty of online trading, we do not know how many people is owed until a refund list is put up.

I am not trying to rub any insults into the members injury but I wish to say that too many times this has happened on the guise of "cheap" things we are drawn by our own greed. If you read most con post the victims always have to beg the socalled "supplier" for a refund. If you read his response is like I give you the following options take it or leave it?

I strongly believe that if you have taken people's money, he has an obligation to refund no matter if he had given money to his supplier. If he is sincere, he would have given us updates.

Why does an outsider have to get a report. Put up the police report on the first page if any of the "victims" has even bothered to get a copy of the report.

My observation are:

1. Most of the banks here do not assist the victims in freezing the account. Even on whether they have done proper verification on the identity is in doubt. Why are scammers so daring to give IC and account number if we can trace them easily?
2. Police. Nothing to say looking at Poweredge case.
3. Administrators can only provide a forum. Whether they have done enough to make inquiries is another issue.
4. We don't know the extent of the loss until a list is drawn up.
5. Forumers are never united or they lack initiative. A lot of talk like lets beat up so and so but a police report is also very rare to come by.
6. A lot of dreamers hoping to be nice to the seller hoping that out of his or her good heart he will get a refund.

I hope that by sharing this we can all be vigilant and stop people from abusing our trust in LowYat. There are many great sellers who are genuine but there will always be a shark out there due to the above weaknesses.

I juz called SB as he din reply my sms a few days back,
thought he wont pick up the phone but he did!

I ask about the status and he said he is finding the main supplier.
then I ask about the waiting period n refund problem,
he juz said put me in the refund list n will suggest those waiting buyers do so
though i'm still hoping to get my ndsl (but SB said dunno nid to wait how long since supplier missing)
as he said the refund will also take some time. (n I dun think the refund will b clear in another a month or 2, mayb even 3 or 4)

haiz...
waiting for 30 working days, cant get the console.
now need to wait for another period(dunno how long) to get the money back.

This post has been edited by pika-pika: Dec 17 2007, 02:52 PM

Add me to the refund list. Thanks.

deed === 1x PSP and 1xW.D Passport HDD 160gb === Rm820 === Rm820 === 22/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby

That's what we can a non-interest loan. Kick in the 30% admin fees if i was to allow it then u r paying him 30% to loan him money when he returns u that money.

Or u could wait for the goods. For another 2 months or 3.

This post has been edited by RangerRed: Dec 17 2007, 03:04 PM

Add me to the refund list. Thanks.

pika-pika === NDSL + R4 Pack === RM450 === RM450 === 17/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby

RangerRed please add me in the refund list.

kakarocht === CPU/Processor Q6600 G0 Stepping === RM880 === RM880 === 17/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby

Just throwing it out there - there's certain 'debt collection agencies' that has various ways to get the cash back ....

waiting for the police report now...scan em and post em....

Has anyone sms heroes99 for the location? he is asking for it.

I scared he come back to this thread and say no one sms him and
he dunno where is the police station and continue to post other stuff here.

I wonder why there's no initiative from buyers to get the report? It actually
show how much you want back your money right? I really hope that SB
really return the money.

itu report cost rm 10 leh ... they lost rm 500 for the psp liao, still need to lost rm 10 for a piece a paper meh ... who want to do so wow.

So where is the place to get the report ? ..so far only received calls but it is on suggestion on how to solve the problem ..

Anyone know where it is ? It is already 4pm now .because of the jam as I live in PJ ...i think can only go at night ...plus I have to take a cab ..so let me know the location ...my number is 014 3338766

This post has been edited by heroes99: Dec 17 2007, 03:48 PM

Received another a HP of SB from a kind and fellow LYN. Updated in 1st post.

crap, really no ppl told u how to get der ?

just came back and no sms yet about the location ...if anyone know let me know , I will be offline now ...

Maluri, Jusco, next to it got 1 police station.