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QUOTE(BoardWarrior @ Dec 10 2007, 05:07 PM)
Oh wow. I totally spammed ~~~~ to make myself sound smarter. ROFL. Glad to see a lot of what I trolled you for flew over your head while you continued to play up to your Serennia-lite stereotype and had a jolly wankfest over your arena ratings on BG1! Let's run down a list of Quazaisms, where I attempt to rebuke you with arguments instead of telling you to "go read" and ask you "if you're stupid" without actually coughing up "hard solid fact"! READYYYYYYYYYY GO!
WSG & Arena - Because I claimed that WSG is better PVP than arena right? That WSG is the be-all and end-all of World of Warcraft PVP right? That WSG is somehow *fairer* than arena in a game that I've said is *unfair* right?
Show us where I made those claims for a moment, instead of using WSG to make a point that if you're a good PVPer, the only difference between arena and high level PVP before arena was a need for different skillsets and disciplines.
The most you've done is made the statement to the contrary by saying "it doesn't take anything to ace [non-arena] PVP while it does arena" without defining what you mean by 'acing it' and by linking the arena primer on the World of Warcraft homepage to prove that arena is superior.
As for your Battlegroup - once again living up to your number worship, you base how good your Battlegroup is on the top earning teams present. The best competition has more or less already moved to BG9, and all the oceanic realms are on BG9. Best asia pacific team on BG1, that bears mentioning!
It's ironic that while your recruitment post-cum-blog is supposed to promote your teams/guild, you have 23 people in armory (yes I won't make an alt to /who your guild to find out how many people you have in guild!) and not too many recruits from LYN based on the responses in that thread. Yet you refuse to leave your server/BG when you're more likely to get more people wanting to play if you repeat your feats on BG9.
to that I say...
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OK, you made your point. Either that or my point, the one that you can't see past your arena ratings!
Tichondrius and Battlegroup 9 - yes the biggest push of transfers was during all the sponsorship hullaballoo during WSVG. Think about why Tichondrius was the one server that everyone transferred to, and whether the people who transferred for PVP after making contacts with the Tich locals via the WSG league before TBC and arena played any part. Hint: they were amongst the best competition in arena and were the first teams to get sponsored. My history failed me in the face of your history. OK!
Armory (rofl) - when I armory you you say I should make a level 1 alt on your server so I get my 'facts' right. When you armory someone else...
If I wanted to prove I was better than you I'd have to answer that PTR challenge even in the face of whatever gear and team make up difference there was wouldn't I? I never made those claims, only that you're a number-worshipping peacock on a best-of-the-rest battlegroup who absolutely must get the last word in every post in LYN, and can't see past your arena ratings when it comes to presenting an arguement~!
LAST.WORD.
P.S. Irony FTW @ last word. See you soon buddy!
yeap, continue to attack my ratings where you, until this very minute, here and now, is still a nobody who holds no value in his words. but im very generous, and this is my thread afterall, so ill just entertain you more and feed you more attention since thats what you crave oh so much. I mean, yeah, if all i did was "wanking off my ratings", i wonder how it manages to get towards essay-length posts. i mean, theres a LOT to right about those 4 digit numbers, right? I mean, it HAS to be, somehow.
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WSG & Arena - Because I claimed that WSG is better PVP than arena right? That WSG is the be-all and end-all of World of Warcraft PVP right? That WSG is somehow *fairer* than arena in a game that I've said is *unfair* right?
Show us where I made those claims for a moment, instead of using WSG to make a point that if you're a good PVPer, the only difference between arena and high level PVP before arena was a need for different skillsets and disciplines.
and quoting your own post:
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Arena just takes a different skillset, a different sort of discipline from what proper WSG took pre-arena, that's all to it. In a game so painfully rock-paper-scissors your group matrix puts forth one step towards victory, and everything else, from individual skill, latency, gear, spec puts the other foot in. I've known lots of incredible WSG players on Tichondrius who have not replicated the same success in arena back when it was first introduced and gradually quit PVP or the game. Does that make them any worse players? It doesn't.
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I stated my own experiences with players who were the best of the best in the PVP scene that existed before your precious arena system. When all the honor has been farmed and HWL rank achieved, the only thing left to do back then to play for fun and epeenery was to get involved in the WSG league that was held on BG9's PTRs.
And a few other minor indications from your posts preaching WSG that is the past and continously down-playing arenas that is the current High-end pvp. I mean, if someone would constantly bead on the dead-horse that is WSG, and continously downplaying arena gameplay, wouldnt it be clear that in his mind the only thing that really matters is WSG? you could at least mention EOTS, AV, AB, or world pvp, but throughout the whole thread, you only argue against me with WSG mainly. If that isnt any clearer i dont know what else is.
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The most you've done is made the statement to the contrary by saying "it doesn't take anything to ace [non-arena] PVP while it does arena" without defining what you mean by 'acing it' and by linking the arena primer on the World of Warcraft homepage to prove that arena is superior.
why do you need a definition over a simple term? but since you've asked for it, here:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/acingthis one is my favorite: a very skilled person <-- lolz.
but hey, i suppose you need more difinitions right? ok, heres my definition of acing pvp outside arenas:
- Winning BG, or better yet, score top w/e you class does (top heals for healers, top dmg/kb for dps'ers etc)
- making successful gankings in world pvp, like um, kill the guy?
based on the above, do you think its REALLY hard to achieve? with or without high ratings, with or without high end pvp gear, with or without a team, a group, or a raid? if you answered yes after all that, then may god save you.
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As for your Battlegroup - once again living up to your number worship, you base how good your Battlegroup is on the top earning teams present. The best competition has more or less already moved to BG9, and all the oceanic realms are on BG9. Best asia pacific team on BG1, that bears mentioning!
It's ironic that while your recruitment post-cum-blog is supposed to promote your teams/guild, you have 23 people in armory (yes I won't make an alt to /who your guild to find out how many people you have in guild!) and not too many recruits from LYN based on the responses in that thread. Yet you refuse to leave your server/BG when you're more likely to get more people wanting to play if you repeat your feats on BG9.
hey, lets just say, hypothetically my BG are ALLLLLLL terribads, and the majority of the asia/pacific players/teams are moved to BG9. but do you realize that, i at least have a standing, even being the best amongst the worst, i have a standing. what about you? you are still no body. you never present anything to back up your claims, your worthless attacks over me, my team, my guild, my server, or my battlegroup. and further yet, even the so-called facts in your posts, are to be taken with a pinch of salt at best thanks to your worthless credibility.
As for my pvp threads, do you know how many PM's, in game pm/mails ive recieved for interests to join the team/guild? and how many of them ever expressed interest to initiate server transfers to join? im SURE you do. but you see, why do i have to invite so many people when all i really need, is 10? and thanks to that, i get to be VERY selective to whom i want to pick. but again, im SURE you've known all those.
And WHY would i leave my server/BG? i mean sure, you are probably correct that i would get more interest, more competition, and no doubt more ratings due to the zero-sum nature of arena gains. But you see, throughout the 3+ years of WoW, ever since closed beta till retail, there are people that still stick around and ive been in touch with them and on occassion even hang out/pve/pvp/chat with them. And thats some of the many benefits of being a server old skooler. But hey, judging the way you've been talking, i guess its just futile to explain all these to you. as you've probably never earned the respect and fame that ive accumulated over these years on the very same server ive set foot on.
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Even at the highest levels of arena competition, the game is plagued by the RPS, and the best teams will have their members play classes they're not familiar with and/or stack classes in order to give them the advantage. What kind of fair and balanced competition platform will encourage or even reward that?
and my answer:
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since you're also dragging wsvg and dreamhack in. let me ask you this, what do you think about watching arena videos in 5v5 format, compared to videos in 3v3 format? and what is the main concern of those tournament organizers? if you've been REALLY following the tournaments, you'll know that the recent dreamhack is HEAVILY critisized in the allowance of class swapping and even worse, allowing stack classes to be ran in the tournament. so really, why are you making yourself looking so stupid?
and my question of this:
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and hey, since your mentioning about highest level of arena competition (something you're prolly not familiar with and prolly wont ever will), have you EVER seen people stack classes in 5's and got over 2.5k ratings?
is no doubt, dodged by you in a poor attempt to attack me and my ratings. as seen at:
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OK, you made your point. Either that or my point, the one that you can't see past your arena ratings!
instead of even making a decent attempt to have a valid arguement/counter of my point. all you do is just dodging dodging and more dodging.
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Tichondrius and Battlegroup 9 - yes the biggest push of transfers was during all the sponsorship hullaballoo during WSVG. Think about why Tichondrius was the one server that everyone transferred to, and whether the people who transferred for PVP after making contacts with the Tich locals via the WSG league before TBC and arena played any part. Hint: they were amongst the best competition in arena and were the first teams to get sponsored. My history failed me in the face of your history. OK!
You knew that the biggest push of transfers and the reason of all the hype, yet you still cling to WSG. get over yourself, WSG is the PAST. i mean, ive also dared you to:
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nope, the true BG9/tich craze happened after arenas were out, and thats when the huge peak of transfers were happening with all the sponsorships started occuring. seems like your knowledge of history is failing you. and why beat on the dead horse that is wsg where its non-factor these days? hell, just go tich forums or bg9 forums, and tell em to do wsg because its apparently the kewl thing to do with the whole wsg league and all, and come back with screenshots to see if your getting lol'ed out the forums or not. im sure it'll be entertaining as hell.
i mean, WSG was the sole reason that BG9/tich got so many top pvp'ers around right? go make a level 1 alt so you dont embarrass urself, and link me to the thread you made, i am really interested to see the results. or, you're still gonna dodge?
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Armory (rofl) - when I armory you you say I should make a level 1 alt on your server so I get my 'facts' right. When you armory someone else...
I mean, you also knew if i did or did not made a level 1 alt to do further check ups right? and/or having friends/guildmates to do it on my behalf. just so you know, unless i have an absolute confidence based on gathered solid information, i wouldnt have had that huge of a set of ballz that would call people out to no end.
As for you, i mean, based on the entire thread, ive gathered 2 facts:
- you're a spineless coward
- you already mentioned being 1-2 season behind me
so even without intel, i would've still dared to take you head on. what do i have to lose? not much besides being made fun of on a forum. and thats provided i lose. while you losing, i would've further strengthen my point and i get full royalty to make fun of you and further entrench my boots into your face thats been so mud covered from the dirtnap you've taken.
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If I wanted to prove I was better than you I'd have to answer that PTR challenge even in the face of whatever gear and team make up difference there was wouldn't I? I never made those claims, only that you're a number-worshipping peacock on a best-of-the-rest battlegroup who absolutely must get the last word in every post in LYN, and can't see past your arena ratings when it comes to presenting an arguement~!
LAST.WORD.
P.S. Irony FTW @ last word. See you soon buddy!
i mean, sure. keep on dodging. ive called you out numerous times, without struting my numbers. and you've got all the advantage over me since i have all my details posted all over the LYN WoW boards while i have nothing on you. who knows you might bring a merciless glad with full s2/s3 gear ready to dig me in? but hey, keep on dodging. and whos the immature one wanting the last post? i mean, your the one making a fuss outta it, im merely replying to posts directed to ME, in MY THREAD. i dont see how i am not entitled a reply, and last i checked, the last person who replies is the one that makes the last post. but hey, keep on being immature over such a trivial matter.