QUOTE(lazogirlz @ Jul 16 2008, 10:37 PM)
wat is fc ar u wrote there? Performance Parts SOLD CLOSED, SOLD TQ ALL
Performance Parts SOLD CLOSED, SOLD TQ ALL
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Jul 17 2008, 09:08 PM
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Jul 17 2008, 09:09 PM
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I saw already this part. In 1 of the automotive forum, all the components are cheap and can be DIY for a fraction of the selling price. Some more the workman ship is very lousy. He who have already took apart the device can post it in LYN what part was the device constructed of so that everyone can discuss about it and some expert can share their thoughts on it. Probably we can DIY it by using the same parts.
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Jul 17 2008, 09:10 PM
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I think this issue is getting a bit out of hand. If Denon or anyone else has any issue he should try to deal wth the TS directly first b4 posting it here. Or at least Post it up in the Dispute section.
Just my 2 cents!! |
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Jul 17 2008, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(lazogirlz @ Jul 17 2008, 08:55 PM) denon.. u dont make trouble here lar.. ist maybe TS product get good business and u r unhappy coz u less earn for ur power stabilizer..? Hi lazogirlz... I think i need to make things clear here.... i m not against anyone and i m not here to make trouble at TS, if you read the entire thread, i was once a user of PB and i did gave good comments on it... but what was shocking is the workmanship... I didnt say that TS is a bad person, he is pretty friendly and nice, but i just felt cheated when i got to know this... TS is a good seller.. he dare to said 1 to 1 exchange means its a good product and he really responsible for his product. u dont tell me u if u get branded super quality will not spoilt? even SONY? samsung? no matter how good quality is it, also will spoilt la. not every product come out will 100 of 100 will perfect working. some might work not properly. dont try to mess here. all ppl know theres alot good feedback for this seller. secondly, this has got nothing to do with he has good business and i dun. pls dun get this impression of mine wrong.... thirdly, i never said that my product is better or his product is better, my main concern is the consumers... fourth, I have no power to stop him from selling, after all, he does have a lot of good comments... fifth, SONY and SAMSUNG are huge companies that has pumped in millions for a lot of R & D with their product b4 releasing it, yes i agree with you there will be some defects, but usually they will return it back and they will do a thorough research on the product and overcome the problem...... so meaning to say he has done R & D? |
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Jul 17 2008, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(denon @ Jul 17 2008, 09:18 PM) Hi lazogirlz... I think i need to make things clear here.... i m not against anyone and i m not here to make trouble at TS, if you read the entire thread, i was once a user of PB and i did gave good comments on it... but what was shocking is the workmanship... I didnt say that TS is a bad person, he is pretty friendly and nice, but i just felt cheated when i got to know this... omg.. u dont think im dont know bout r&d la... im working in research and development department..secondly, this has got nothing to do with he has good business and i dun. pls dun get this impression of mine wrong.... thirdly, i never said that my product is better or his product is better, my main concern is the consumers... fourth, I have no power to stop him from selling, after all, he does have a lot of good comments... fifth, SONY and SAMSUNG are huge companies that has pumped in millions for a lot of R & D with their product b4 releasing it, yes i agree with you there will be some defects, but usually they will return it back and they will do a thorough research on the product and overcome the problem...... so meaning to say he has done R & D? yes of course u can think like that.. how u know seller dint try to find out the problem..? we also can be a seller.. we dont hope to get bad reputation also rite..? once we r in blacklist, its hard for us to get up and make business as well as b4. |
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Jul 17 2008, 10:13 PM
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Jul 17 2008, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Jul 17 2008, 10:13 PM) not sabotaj le..if a product got problem then gotta solve lo.....not mean must sabotaj...im just trying to help actually...btw, guess im not so welcome here... nice day |
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Jul 17 2008, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(huakenny @ Jul 17 2008, 10:37 PM) not sabotaj le..if a product got problem then gotta solve lo.....not mean must sabotaj...im just trying to help actually... Hi there.. I do agree wit u.. When there is a problem, den i tink TS shud be responsible for it.. Do not deny the fact that TS product are of unsatisfied quality.!! Many users have complained and not only 1 person.. So,pls give explaination to those who hv been cheated by u.. I hv no offence against u personally, but just that when seller sells things, make sure it is of good and satisfactory quality and the info&specs must be the same as per your desciption.. And most importantly, it must be safe and made properly..!! Giving 1 to 1 exchange is not a best solution after all..!! the lost suffered may cost more than your VS..!! So,i would advise u that Prevention Is Better Than Cure..!! Make sure your products are reliable,so customer can use confidently and not asking for 1 to 1 exchange.. btw, guess im not so welcome here... nice day And i wanna clarify dat i m not trying to promote my products here or wat so ever, just that my advise is for those who wanna buy VS, pls check out for other more reliable and reputable brands.. DIY products shud not be selling more than rm50..!! So,when u pay more than that, pls make sure u get sumting that is really good and genuine..!! this is wat i will say as "Value For Money"..!! TQ.. Added on July 17, 2008, 11:16 pm QUOTE(IceCube @ Jul 17 2008, 07:18 PM) Bro, honestly tell me this, does pivot or maxspeed or any company be responsible for your car if anything happen (like what you claim) even though you complain? Big company will not entertain such case coz they are FACTORY to produce the product and sell to reseller, i tell you honestly and if anything happen and you really want to claim from them, it will take you ages and they will say your car problem that caused their product to react that way. Everything you say also they can putar belit. I think you know more then that. Hey.. If you cant be responsible for the VS dat u r selling, i advise u better stop selling..!! How old are u..? Where is your sense of responsibility..?? R u 100% sure that those companies wont be responsible..?? If u hv not encounter such situation, do not simply talk..!! And u r talking bout big companies, while u r just sum small little seller..!! Even if big companies do not be responsible, i m sure their sub agent will try their best to b responsible if anything goes wrong..!! I stressed dat most importantly, big companies done preoper R&D b4 selling..!! their componets are manufactured accordingly..!! Not DIY..!! If DIY products are so so good, I suggest u write to Pivot and MaxSpeed to ask them to close down.. U will make more money..!!If you want it to looks great like pivot and to show off to your friends then by all means go for it. Why do you bought some black box that sells cheap on the net? Becoz u read the reviews and understand that its a black box and even if u show to anyone ,they will not believe it work (like ur friend) unless they put it in their ride and you will be the one laughing at them. Have you ever open up the Maxspeed you selling? How is the effectiveness of maxspeed compare to power booster? Is it water proof with 1-to-1 warranty swap in one year? Are you sure maxspeed never spoilt or damage or like you claim ,be bad for buyers? Are you talking about the Maxspeed you are selling? Another maxspeed trader. Wow! I am impress bro. You might not be good in DIY and might misconnect some cap but that doesnt mean everyone is the same like you bro. The world is big and you are not alone out there. U r always talking bout performance.. U do say dat other brands like MaxSpeed,Zaptor, Pivot cant compete wit your so called power booster.. But could u 100% confirm that your product are better than those..?? I dont see any other seller claimng other brands are worst than the brands dat they are selling except for u..!! U r nt the only 1 in this world,do not simply sell sum inferior products and claim that those reputable brands are useless..!! Even if your PB is so good, bt no Quality Control..!! No point if u make a fastest car in the world but no safety features and no quality control..!! Consumers are smarter now..!! they dun just simply buy and believe wat seller claimed..!! Worst of all, not make in Japan but claim make in Japan..!! Do u wanna be charged for Fraud Misrepresentation..????!!!!! If u compare wats inside MaxSpeed and Pivot, i can assure u that the circuit is more systematic and the built quality is very much better than yours..!! The componets are oso neatly manufactured..!! Not like yours..!! Water proof and water resistance is 2 different things..!! U tink those big companies nvr think bout the issue of water going inside..?? Only your PB got water proof..? Ur PB may b water proof, bt even without water going in, the circuit already started to show signs of possibly a short circuit after a only few mths of using..!! "You might not be good in DIY and might misconnect some cap but that doesnt mean everyone is the same like you bro. The world is big and you are not alone out there." Does this phrase hint that your Power Boster is DIY product..?? Please do not try 2 cover up for mistake..!! I advise mayb u can start a new thread wit different ID and rename your power booster and sell it below rm50.. den many will consider buying.. TQ.. 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Jul 17 2008, 11:27 PM
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haiyoh...apa ini tulis panjang2 meh..enuf2
back to bisnes la wei peace! |
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Jul 18 2008, 03:58 AM
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Pening kepala.
This thread has been under constant bombardment ever since someone opened up the PB. I think seller should change the title to Power Booster - DIY VS and improve on his workmanship la......scary. |
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Jul 18 2008, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE(jpker kia @ Jul 17 2008, 08:48 PM) bro jpker kia..wallauwey...can u send me the schematic diagram plzz... send to mrcalium@msn.comhope u... Added on July 18, 2008, 9:10 am QUOTE(zzzz52 @ Jul 17 2008, 09:09 PM) I saw already this part. In 1 of the automotive forum, all the components are cheap and can be DIY for a fraction of the selling price. Some more the workman ship is very lousy. He who have already took apart the device can post it in LYN what part was the device constructed of so that everyone can discuss about it and some expert can share their thoughts on it. Probably we can DIY it by using the same parts. bro..zzzz52..can u send me the schematic diagram plzz... send to mrcalium@msn.comhope u... This post has been edited by mrcalium: Jul 18 2008, 09:11 AM |
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Jul 18 2008, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(zhensheng @ Jul 17 2008, 10:51 PM) Added on July 17, 2008, 11:16 pm Hey.. If you cant be responsible for the VS dat u r selling, i advise u better stop selling..!! How old are u..? Where is your sense of responsibility..?? R u 100% sure that those companies wont be responsible..?? If u hv not encounter such situation, do not simply talk..!! And u r talking bout big companies, while u r just sum small little seller..!! Even if big companies do not be responsible, i m sure their sub agent will try their best to b responsible if anything goes wrong..!! I stressed dat most importantly, big companies done preoper R&D b4 selling..!! their componets are manufactured accordingly..!! Not DIY..!! If DIY products are so so good, I suggest u write to Pivot and MaxSpeed to ask them to close down.. U will make more money..!! U r always talking bout performance.. U do say dat other brands like MaxSpeed,Zaptor, Pivot cant compete wit your so called power booster.. But could u 100% confirm that your product are better than those..?? I dont see any other seller claimng other brands are worst than the brands dat they are selling except for u..!! U r nt the only 1 in this world,do not simply sell sum inferior products and claim that those reputable brands are useless..!! Even if your PB is so good, bt no Quality Control..!! No point if u make a fastest car in the world but no safety features and no quality control..!! Consumers are smarter now..!! they dun just simply buy and believe wat seller claimed..!! Worst of all, not make in Japan but claim make in Japan..!! Do u wanna be charged for Fraud Misrepresentation..????!!!!! If u compare wats inside MaxSpeed and Pivot, i can assure u that the circuit is more than yours..!! The componets are oso neatly manufactured..!! Not like yours..!! Water proof and water resistance is 2 different things..!! U tink those big companies nvr think bout the issue of water going inside..?? Only your PB got water proof..? Ur PB may b water proof, bt even without water going in, the circuit already started to show signs of possibly a short circuit after a only few mths of using..!! "You might not be good in DIY and might misconnect some cap but that doesnt mean everyone is the same like you bro. The world is big and you are not alone out there." Does this phrase hint that your Power Boster is DIY product..?? Please do not try 2 cover up for mistake..!! I advise mayb u can start a new thread wit different ID and rename your power booster and sell it below rm50.. den many will consider buying.. TQ.. 2. Sub agent be responsible for your product? You earn how much per VS that can be responsible for your customer car? I dunno about your unit, but I have R&D my unit and its prefectly safe (PREFECTLY read this clearly) as its fuse protected and customer can change the fuse straight away themself compare to your maxspeed that have what bs dual-fuse inside that you have to unscrew 8pcs of allen key and void the warranty with the fuse exchange or just to check if the fuse if blown or not. Which company sell performance parts can guarentee or be responsible for their customer cars ? performance airfilter like open pod,drop in? performance engine oil ? performance camshaft ? turbo kit ? highcam ? Port and polish??? Voltage stabilizer? Stabilizer bar ?? which company (like what u say BIG company) can be responsible? You face before or manage to claim a new engine then you talk, if not, how old are you to think that their can just simply fork out money to pay for your damaged engine when you bolt on their turbo kit/air filter/vs/engine oil/highcam ?? How old are you bro? Ask me to write to pivot and maxspeed, u think still in primary school ? You want write letter to the headmaster then go ahead bro. I already leave that behind long time ago. 3. Power booster 100% better then other brand? All claims i made is from my customer reviews. Check the pages which have customer been an ex user of other brands like pivot and much more. I dont just make claim like how you do in my thread. If you are unhappy with the claim, you can take it to your customer and test it. What more to argue ? 4. Made in japan. Bro, READ properly, since when i said made in japan, I said Japan components. Its made in japan's components. Major components are japan quality. How old are you bro? Can you calculate the cost if shipping the whole unit of metal from japan ? I know some brand say made in japan and actually local assemble. Mine is local assemble and those normal parts like casing, wires, fuse are local sourced ,so the cost can be lowered and still have quality components. 5. systematic and the built quality is very much better . That mean it will 100% better then others? No use if they built a car so stable so safe but it can only run 10kmph ...who want to drive? 6. Cover up. Again, how old are you bro? Cover up and change nickname and post new name. that is soooo childish thinking. I will definately be more responsible then that! |
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Jul 19 2008, 01:17 AM
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lol.. talk untill schematic diagram..
if can, pls send to me also.. i would like to do research and improvement bout it also.. everyday looking at sch pcb untill bored d so hope can do research for ur product too.. |
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Jul 19 2008, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(lazogirlz @ Jul 19 2008, 01:17 AM) lol.. talk untill schematic diagram.. if can, pls send to me also.. i would like to do research and improvement bout it also.. everyday looking at sch pcb untill bored d so hope can do research for ur product too.. |
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Jul 20 2008, 08:03 PM
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hye bro.
stil got 1? how much? pm me the price tq by the way, im in kuantan, how? |
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Jul 21 2008, 12:52 AM
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kelvin,thanks for solving my kancil.
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Jul 21 2008, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(tagem @ Jul 20 2008, 08:03 PM) Check your pm.QUOTE(super macgyver @ Jul 21 2008, 12:52 AM) TS, the PB i think is not working on fuel saving on my car, can i exchange with another PB from u tis week ar? Ok Gimme an SMS when you come over. Will help u check the unit. |
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Jul 22 2008, 03:24 PM
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hai bro....
can installed pm on my car? my loc putrajaya.... |
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