Easy Pha-max
http://www.easypha-max.com/corp/home.jsp
Is this another MLM company?
Easy Pha-max?, Anyone know this?
Easy Pha-max?, Anyone know this?
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Nov 21 2007, 06:38 PM, updated 18y ago
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Nov 21 2007, 06:49 PM
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I saw the billboards at the highway.
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Nov 21 2007, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 21 2007, 06:49 PM) Ya, I saw a few billboards (in plus highway heading north)They even have a shop in queensbay mall (penang). I briefly heard it is a franchise business. Pay RM20k. Shared profit. Not sure more... If someone knows the details. Kindly post |
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Nov 21 2007, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Nov 21 2007, 06:38 PM) Yes, it is a MLM company, one of their existing members try to persuade me to join before. Forget the exact amount to get a franschise licence for their member, in the range of 5 digits (30k?), sorry can't remember correctly, just heard that fellow said when try to persuade me time. Didn't interest at all. It is selling herb product similar to those already in market one. Quite expensive also, not cheap. It is owned by Insbio, a listed Mesdaq company. This post has been edited by cherroy: Nov 21 2007, 08:45 PM |
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Nov 21 2007, 08:46 PM
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Wow... this MLM so expensive
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Nov 21 2007, 08:50 PM
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This is quite a huge company, and it's very aggressive in M&A recently.
Been seeing a lot of news on it. Maybe it has just converted from franchisor to MLM company, just like what Tupperware did. |
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Nov 21 2007, 10:40 PM
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they spent a lot of money in advertising Easy Pha-max
i heard it from FM, i saw the sticker on our public transportation, eg taxi, everywhere, i feel annoyed |
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Nov 22 2007, 12:07 AM
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They used to be known as INS and operated as MLM company. They are famous for their Wheatgrass drink. One of their health pill are quite effective for diabetic. After they changed to Easy Phamax, I wonder if MLM still applies since they selling it direct from website
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Nov 22 2007, 12:14 AM
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INSbio is still there, they started this easy-phamax thing to sell some of their products in a different way
INS has this herb based pill(its a medicine, it has got approval from UM already |
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Nov 22 2007, 08:20 AM
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always heard the advertisement of this..
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Nov 23 2007, 02:16 AM
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Ooooh. I'm suspicious on this company. What I heard is that 30k++ is needed to participate. Then the company provide you with about 38k of products for you to sell/use. They also provide you with an email and website to conduct your 'online business'.
Perhaps the way to promote this easy phamax thing is a little dubious to me. But after reading some of its products... they seemed to be scientifically sound. |
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Nov 23 2007, 02:19 AM
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ya...
they spend a lot on advertisement!! 1st in Radio... then in TV... then on Taxi. then billboard.. |
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Nov 23 2007, 09:12 AM
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I think RM30k to startup is not easy and can be risky (MLM cases). I wonder is it a proven success
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Nov 23 2007, 09:38 AM
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RM30K is not risky as long as the products are good and you can sell it.
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Nov 23 2007, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Nov 23 2007, 09:38 AM) The problem is some of their members not view it as selling a product, but selling franchise to get downline to earn from the new members joining rather than selling the product. They have no interest to sell the product at all, just concentrate to get downline franchising to earn and ask the downline franchising to get more down line (to form a pyramid type of downline), at least the person persuaded me last time explaining to me one. He said don't need to sell the product one, just concentrate to get more downline is enough to earn the money. Himself joining one also don't know the product his should be selling anyway. This post has been edited by cherroy: Nov 23 2007, 03:47 PM |
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Nov 23 2007, 09:26 PM
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The concept is quite similar to the one used in Lamp Berger.
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Nov 23 2007, 11:30 PM
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Dec 15 2007, 10:50 PM
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u all totally wrong....wan know for all information...pm me..its a pretty good stuff...
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Dec 15 2007, 11:00 PM
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Dec 15 2007, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(limyc77 @ Dec 15 2007, 10:50 PM) Yes please share hereI heard there are 2 options 1) buy the franchise license (i think they just increased the price to RM40k?) 2) buy the platinum card (something like that), and use it to buy their things I'm just curious about the plan. |
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Dec 16 2007, 02:49 AM
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just another mlm company, but not as bad as lampe berger
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Dec 16 2007, 02:56 AM
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actually the company is based in Puchong, another MLM company....join at your own risk lar...if your thinking of big money go ahead
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Dec 16 2007, 01:12 PM
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hmm,this plan work like that,when u buy the franchiese,u get the stock.But when next time u recruit a new biz partner,he will buy the franchaise again,so he will hold the stock.It will continue like that....
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Dec 16 2007, 08:28 PM
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Dec 16 2007, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 23 2007, 03:45 PM) The problem is some of their members not view it as selling a product, but selling franchise to get downline to earn from the new members joining rather than selling the product. They have no interest to sell the product at all, just concentrate to get downline franchising to earn and ask the downline franchising to get more down line (to form a pyramid type of downline), at least the person persuaded me last time explaining to me one. He said don't need to sell the product one, just concentrate to get more downline is enough to earn the money. Himself joining one also don't know the product his should be selling anyway. Me same, they claim is not MLM. Then I say it must be about selling them, them I ask about the marketing plan and they answer they still not clear about it.Haizzzz... |
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Dec 17 2007, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(kennyL1692 @ Dec 16 2007, 11:20 PM) Me same, they claim is not MLM. Then I say it must be about selling them, them I ask about the marketing plan and they answer they still not clear about it. The fact is that if you want to reach to the top faster, you have to focus more recruiting rather than selling. This is what Lampe Berger does. In fact, most MLM company are preaching this method. At the end of the day, if the product is superior, whether you do recruiting or not, you still be sucessful as it can sell and you earn profit from it.Haizzzz... |
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Dec 17 2007, 10:22 AM
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lamp berger?hahahaha don't join.you'll regret
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Dec 18 2007, 06:59 PM
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another way that they say can earn u ur big bucks is that they claimed there is only a limited number of d franchisee licenses...and so, when it runs it soon, d price of d license will go up, which u can then 'sell'/transfer to another buyer...more like an 'investment' i would say...but how true is it, i got no idea...
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Dec 18 2007, 08:07 PM
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Do you think it is easy to find a buying selling your license at RM40k?
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Dec 18 2007, 09:40 PM
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The franchising licence will only worth if the product is popular and has high demand which the people buying the lincence can make handsome profit from it. Otherwise a licence is just a piece of paper which worth nothing.
Just like McDonalds, You know when you have the franchising licence then you know you are going to get good businesses from it and can get hefty profit from it then the licence is actually worth the money. So basically, it is the product that's matter which will determine whether it is worth to invest the franchising licence or not. |
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Dec 19 2007, 03:49 AM
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my fren told me his uncle is one of the director...
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Dec 19 2007, 02:39 PM
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but looking at this co, it looks like it is not just a main2 co only...they r expanding pretty fast it seems with a rapidly growing no of members...well, i wonder r d new members being pulled in by d effectiveness of d prods or just d $$$ of recruiting more new members...hmmm...
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Dec 19 2007, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(KChooz @ Dec 19 2007, 02:39 PM) but looking at this co, it looks like it is not just a main2 co only...they r expanding pretty fast it seems with a rapidly growing no of members...well, i wonder r d new members being pulled in by d effectiveness of d prods or just d $$$ of recruiting more new members...hmmm... A handful of their existing members are concentrating in recruitment only, they had no interest to sell their products, at least someone (existing member) that persuade me said like that. Don't need to sell product, just recruitment more downline franchising.By right, it is the product that's matter as the products is the ultimate source of income/profit which will determine the value of franchising license. |
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Feb 4 2008, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Nov 21 2007, 07:38 PM) Hi bros and sister,my naem is Terrence Lim.I am a banker from local bank. Its seem pretty good easy phamax.Today 04/02/2008 i invited to the talk with the Ceo of easy phamax. I have been analyse marketting plan for past 2 years and fot what there offer is pretty well. I am not joing them then try to have mislead you but its really a good time to know more about this business.Its doenst related to MLM or Skim cepat kaya. Its juz a franchising formula like starbuck cafe.and you only need to invest an affordable price(actually when you know the price i sure you will surprise,cause actually its cost you nothing when you did right thing)........I hope that if you are interested in part time income or a investment you can email me at lonelyinvest@yahoo.com...I wil tell you more about this company and what strategy that they using...And sorry to say...Up to date its only have 600 out of 6000 available...So grab it or leave it.ThanksAdded on February 4, 2008, 12:32 am QUOTE(dzi921 @ Nov 21 2007, 07:38 PM) Hi bros and sister,my naem is Terrence Lim.I am a banker from local bank. Its seem pretty good easy phamax.Today 04/02/2008 i invited to the talk with the Ceo of easy phamax. I have been analyse marketting plan for past 2 years and fot what there offer is pretty well. I am not joing them then try to have mislead you but its really a good time to know more about this business.Its doenst related to MLM or Skim cepat kaya. Its juz a franchising formula like starbuck cafe.and you only need to invest an affordable price(actually when you know the price i sure you will surprise,cause actually its cost you nothing when you did right thing)........I hope that if you are interested in part time income or a investment you can email me at lonelyinvest@yahoo.com...I wil tell you more about this company and what strategy that they using...And sorry to say...Up to date its only have 600 out of 6000 available...So grab it or leave it.ThanksAdded on February 4, 2008, 12:32 am QUOTE(dzi921 @ Nov 21 2007, 07:38 PM) Hi bros and sister,my naem is Terrence Lim.I am a banker from local bank. Its seem pretty good easy phamax.Today 04/02/2008 i invited to the talk with the Ceo of easy phamax. I have been analyse marketting plan for past 2 years and fot what there offer is pretty well. I am not joing them then try to have mislead you but its really a good time to know more about this business.Its doenst related to MLM or Skim cepat kaya. Its juz a franchising formula like starbuck cafe.and you only need to invest an affordable price(actually when you know the price i sure you will surprise,cause actually its cost you nothing when you did right thing)........I hope that if you are interested in part time income or a investment you can email me at lonelyinvest@yahoo.com...I wil tell you more about this company and what strategy that they using...And sorry to say...Up to date its only have 600 out of 6000 available...So grab it or leave it.ThanksAdded on February 4, 2008, 12:34 amHi bros and sister,my naem is Terrence Lim.I am a banker from local bank. Its seem pretty good easy phamax.Today 04/02/2008 i invited to the talk with the Ceo of easy phamax. I have been analyse marketting plan for past 2 years and fot what there offer is pretty well. I am not joing them then try to have mislead you but its really a good time to know more about this business.Its doenst related to MLM or Skim cepat kaya. Its juz a franchising formula like starbuck cafe.and you only need to invest an affordable price(actually when you know the price i sure you will surprise,cause actually its cost you nothing when you did right thing)........I hope that if you are interested in part time income or a investment you can email me at lonelyinvest@yahoo.com...I wil tell you more about this company and what strategy that they using...And sorry to say...Up to date its only have 600 out of 6000 available...So grab it or leave it.Thanks This post has been edited by lonelymyth: Feb 4 2008, 12:34 AM |
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QUOTE(lonelymyth @ Feb 4 2008, 12:32 AM) Hi bros and sister,my naem is Terrence Lim.I am a banker from local bank. Its seem pretty good easy phamax.Today 04/02/2008 i invited to the talk with the Ceo of easy phamax. I have been analyse marketting plan for past 2 years and fot what there offer is pretty well. I am not joing them then try to have mislead you but its really a good time to know more about this business.Its doenst related to MLM or Skim cepat kaya. Its juz a franchising formula like starbuck cafe.and you only need to invest an affordable price(actually when you know the price i sure you will surprise,cause actually its cost you nothing when you did right thing)........I hope that if you are interested in part time income or a investment you can email me at lonelyinvest@yahoo.com...I wil tell you more about this company and what strategy that they using...And sorry to say...Up to date its only have 600 out of 6000 available...So grab it or leave it.Thanks You do not need to requote your answer elsewhere!!!!Added on February 4, 2008, 12:32 am Hi bros and sister,my naem is Terrence Lim.I am a banker from local bank. Its seem pretty good easy phamax.Today 04/02/2008 i invited to the talk with the Ceo of easy phamax. I have been analyse marketting plan for past 2 years and fot what there offer is pretty well. I am not joing them then try to have mislead you but its really a good time to know more about this business.Its doenst related to MLM or Skim cepat kaya. Its juz a franchising formula like starbuck cafe.and you only need to invest an affordable price(actually when you know the price i sure you will surprise,cause actually its cost you nothing when you did right thing)........I hope that if you are interested in part time income or a investment you can email me at lonelyinvest@yahoo.com...I wil tell you more about this company and what strategy that they using...And sorry to say...Up to date its only have 600 out of 6000 available...So grab it or leave it.Thanks Added on February 4, 2008, 12:32 am Hi bros and sister,my naem is Terrence Lim.I am a banker from local bank. Its seem pretty good easy phamax.Today 04/02/2008 i invited to the talk with the Ceo of easy phamax. I have been analyse marketting plan for past 2 years and fot what there offer is pretty well. I am not joing them then try to have mislead you but its really a good time to know more about this business.Its doenst related to MLM or Skim cepat kaya. Its juz a franchising formula like starbuck cafe.and you only need to invest an affordable price(actually when you know the price i sure you will surprise,cause actually its cost you nothing when you did right thing)........I hope that if you are interested in part time income or a investment you can email me at lonelyinvest@yahoo.com...I wil tell you more about this company and what strategy that they using...And sorry to say...Up to date its only have 600 out of 6000 available...So grab it or leave it.Thanks Added on February 4, 2008, 12:34 amHi bros and sister,my naem is Terrence Lim.I am a banker from local bank. Its seem pretty good easy phamax.Today 04/02/2008 i invited to the talk with the Ceo of easy phamax. I have been analyse marketting plan for past 2 years and fot what there offer is pretty well. I am not joing them then try to have mislead you but its really a good time to know more about this business.Its doenst related to MLM or Skim cepat kaya. Its juz a franchising formula like starbuck cafe.and you only need to invest an affordable price(actually when you know the price i sure you will surprise,cause actually its cost you nothing when you did right thing)........I hope that if you are interested in part time income or a investment you can email me at lonelyinvest@yahoo.com...I wil tell you more about this company and what strategy that they using...And sorry to say...Up to date its only have 600 out of 6000 available...So grab it or leave it.Thanks |
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Feb 4 2008, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(amoslee @ Dec 16 2007, 02:56 AM) actually the company is based in Puchong, another MLM company....join at your own risk lar...if your thinking of big money go ahead Yeah I've seen their office in Bandar Puteri... they appear well funded and organised...Only reason why I noticed the place was the Bentley, S Mercs and Beemers parked outside... I guess business must be good |
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Feb 4 2008, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Feb 4 2008, 12:17 PM) Yeah I've seen their office in Bandar Puteri... they appear well funded and organised... Surely. Any MLM (legtimate like Amway etc), the top one is the ultimate beneficiary.Only reason why I noticed the place was the Bentley, S Mercs and Beemers parked outside... I guess business must be good |
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Feb 4 2008, 04:13 PM
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Feb 4 2008, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(b00n @ Feb 4 2008, 04:13 PM) You could always have a healthy discussion here regarding the plans. I only knew it is a herb product that related to health. It is not drug or medicine so I don't think it is hard to get approval from any countries authorities.Btw, was the product certified in the first place? By whom in which country? Thanks. The sales person (a friend of a friend) when persuading me to join time (not really join but to buy the franchising license, about 30+K if not mistaken), he know nuts about the product, just concentrate on the recruitment side (it is a bit different than nromal MLM one, they use franchising type as a type of recruitment) rather than selling the product. May be our forumer (lonelymyth or others) can explain more details about it. This post has been edited by cherroy: Feb 4 2008, 04:41 PM |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 4 2008, 04:40 PM) I only knew it is a herb product that related to health. It is not drug or medicine so I don't think it is hard to get approval from any countries authorities. I got to know the product when they are still called INS. They got a product that are popular with diabetic people. I do not know how effective it is and so if anyone tried it, pls share your story.The sales person (a friend of a friend) when persuading me to join time (not really join but to buy the franchising license, about 30+K if not mistaken), he know nuts about the product, just concentrate on the recruitment side (it is a bit different than nromal MLM one, they use franchising type as a type of recruitment) rather than selling the product. May be our forumer (lonelymyth or others) can explain more details about it. |
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Feb 4 2008, 07:32 PM
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sounds like another usana thing.
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Feb 5 2008, 01:19 AM
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EASY PHARMAX = INS
THERE ARE FROM THE SAME BOSS |
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Feb 5 2008, 01:33 AM
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QUOTE(lonelymyth @ Feb 4 2008, 12:32 AM) Hi bros and sister,my naem is Terrence Lim.I am a banker from local bank. Its seem pretty good easy phamax.Today 04/02/2008 i invited to the talk with the Ceo of easy phamax. I have been analyse marketting plan for past 2 years and fot what there offer is pretty well. I am not joing them then try to have mislead you but its really a good time to know more about this business.Its doenst related to MLM or Skim cepat kaya. Its juz a franchising formula like starbuck cafe.and you only need to invest an affordable price(actually when you know the price i sure you will surprise,cause actually its cost you nothing when you did right thing)........I hope that if you are interested in part time income or a investment you can email me at lonelyinvest@yahoo.com...I wil tell you more about this company and what strategy that they using...And sorry to say...Up to date its only have 600 out of 6000 available...So grab it or leave it.Thanks Hi bro and sister, i m a spam botAdded on February 4, 2008, 12:32 am Hi bros and sister,my naem is Terrence Lim.I am a banker from local bank. Its seem pretty good easy phamax.Today 04/02/2008 i invited to the talk with the Ceo of easy phamax. I have been analyse marketting plan for past 2 years and fot what there offer is pretty well. I am not joing them then try to have mislead you but its really a good time to know more about this business.Its doenst related to MLM or Skim cepat kaya. Its juz a franchising formula like starbuck cafe.and you only need to invest an affordable price(actually when you know the price i sure you will surprise,cause actually its cost you nothing when you did right thing)........I hope that if you are interested in part time income or a investment you can email me at lonelyinvest@yahoo.com...I wil tell you more about this company and what strategy that they using...And sorry to say...Up to date its only have 600 out of 6000 available...So grab it or leave it.Thanks Added on February 4, 2008, 12:32 am Hi bros and sister,my naem is Terrence Lim.I am a banker from local bank. Its seem pretty good easy phamax.Today 04/02/2008 i invited to the talk with the Ceo of easy phamax. I have been analyse marketting plan for past 2 years and fot what there offer is pretty well. I am not joing them then try to have mislead you but its really a good time to know more about this business.Its doenst related to MLM or Skim cepat kaya. Its juz a franchising formula like starbuck cafe.and you only need to invest an affordable price(actually when you know the price i sure you will surprise,cause actually its cost you nothing when you did right thing)........I hope that if you are interested in part time income or a investment you can email me at lonelyinvest@yahoo.com...I wil tell you more about this company and what strategy that they using...And sorry to say...Up to date its only have 600 out of 6000 available...So grab it or leave it.Thanks Added on February 4, 2008, 12:34 amHi bros and sister,my naem is Terrence Lim.I am a banker from local bank. Its seem pretty good easy phamax.Today 04/02/2008 i invited to the talk with the Ceo of easy phamax. I have been analyse marketting plan for past 2 years and fot what there offer is pretty well. I am not joing them then try to have mislead you but its really a good time to know more about this business.Its doenst related to MLM or Skim cepat kaya. Its juz a franchising formula like starbuck cafe.and you only need to invest an affordable price(actually when you know the price i sure you will surprise,cause actually its cost you nothing when you did right thing)........I hope that if you are interested in part time income or a investment you can email me at lonelyinvest@yahoo.com...I wil tell you more about this company and what strategy that they using...And sorry to say...Up to date its only have 600 out of 6000 available...So grab it or leave it.Thanks |
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Feb 5 2008, 02:32 AM
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Hehe...Sorry i am new in Lowyat Blog...Regarding easy phamax...Its really a company own by INS-A datuk Of Malaysia..I am an internet marketer that always analyse MLM and all company marketing plan...So for tis one they claim that there are not MLM.Its Truth!!!! You cant get the registration in Direct Sales Malaysia...
There are using a strategy call Blue Ocean..This is a super bsiness strategy nd this book you can find in MPH,Popoular or Borders.... As a Normal Cosumer-You can purchase an platinm card cost RM5000 value at RM3800 before promotion end..And if you can recruite 4 consumer to the company,you can earn around 10k.....you can use tis card to swap or having meal in easy phamax as well same as the value of RM5000... The consumer need to buy the card from franchisor........ And for franchsing its only available in 6000 frachisor in Malaysia..Now if i not wrong up to ate 5600 sold out... Th franchisor value is RM50000 and its only cost you RM42000 now till promotion end....and you can get alot of benefits such as divided,shares when listed,pool incentives and its quite pretty... Its juz some new blue ocean strategy that work lioke Berjaya group take a master franchise in Malaysia from starbuck ciffe..then sell to investor that would like tobcome franchisor...then invest huge money in advertiing lke starbucks...But the ifferent is E-commerce.... You can sell it to world wide and you can recruit world wide consumersss..i hope that i can make you all understand more..If really interested pls email to my lonelyinvest@yahoo.com........Maybe i ca receommend my friend the CEO of easy phamax to u..As u know the most with leadership will be success faster...Hehe For the product is under GMP factory in china and pass american FDA as well..and many many certification...Want to know more need to go ask ur friend lor...haha |
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Feb 5 2008, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE(lonelymyth @ Feb 5 2008, 02:32 AM) Hehe...Sorry i am new in Lowyat Blog...Regarding easy phamax...Its really a company own by INS-A datuk Of Malaysia..I am an internet marketer that always analyse MLM and all company marketing plan...So for tis one they claim that there are not MLM.Its Truth!!!! You cant get the registration in Direct Sales Malaysia... Errr... from the above on recruitment side, actually it is quite similar to MLM structure.As a Normal Cosumer-You can purchase an platinm card cost RM5000 value at RM3800 before promotion end..And if you can recruite 4 consumer to the company,you can earn around 10k.....you can use tis card to swap or having meal in easy phamax as well same as the value of RM5000... The consumer need to buy the card from franchisor........ And for franchsing its only available in 6000 frachisor in Malaysia..Now if i not wrong up to ate 5600 sold out... Th franchisor value is RM50000 and its only cost you RM42000 now till promotion end....and you can get alot of benefits such as divided,shares when listed,pool incentives and its quite pretty... You can sell it to world wide and you can recruit world wide consumersss..i hope that i can make you all understand more..If really interested pls email to my lonelyinvest@yahoo.com........Maybe i ca receommend my friend the CEO of easy phamax to u..As u know the most with leadership will be success faster...Hehe For the product is under GMP factory in china and pass american FDA as well..and many many certification...Want to know more need to go ask ur friend lor...haha Don't get me wrong, we are not against any legitimate MLM. |
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Feb 5 2008, 09:17 AM
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All of these companies say their unique in a way. They get hot for a while, so does their member
But at the end of day, mostly will cool down and not make much from it True/False? |
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Feb 5 2008, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Feb 5 2008, 09:17 AM) All of these companies say their unique in a way. They get hot for a while, so does their member Mostly true, there are plenty of 'hot' season/period for businesses.But at the end of day, mostly will cool down and not make much from it True/False? Normally we only heard and talk success story, those failed one, nobody want to talk about and being swept under the carpet. It is as same for normal businesses or investment. Only a handful company will succeed but lot of failed stories behind. Businesses never been a guaranteed success. A success businesses or business model need plenty factors before it can really success including some timing, some said a little bit of luck as well. Above statement is not related or direct to easy-phamax issue. |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 5 2008, 10:09 AM) Mostly true, there are plenty of 'hot' season/period for businesses. Agree, remember Diamond water was once the popular one? I guess this one is the same.Normally we only heard and talk success story, those failed one, nobody want to talk about and being swept under the carpet. It is as same for normal businesses or investment. Only a handful company will succeed but lot of failed stories behind. Businesses never been a guaranteed success. A success businesses or business model need plenty factors before it can really success including some timing, some said a little bit of luck as well. Above statement is not related or direct to easy-phamax issue. |
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Feb 17 2008, 11:39 PM
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Reply to Post #44,
u'r exactly true! tis afternoon i attended their seminar at Palace of Golden Horse. their saying are exactly wat u've stated here. This post has been edited by Archiou: Feb 17 2008, 11:40 PM |
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Just becarefull with this kind of scheme. RM5000 isn't a big sum, but it isn't a small one either. Dont get confused by the MLM ppl, stay aside, think properly if it suits you before you join...
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one minute you claim to be a banker, then the next post you say you are an internet marketer. or are you a scammer ? oops.. spammer..? Added on March 30, 2008, 2:54 am QUOTE(wingcross @ Feb 4 2008, 06:32 PM) no, it is different. this one is a china usana.This post has been edited by jongkolkhoo: Mar 30 2008, 02:54 AM |
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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Nov 21 2007, 07:38 PM) FOR INFORMATION ABOUT EASY PHA-MAX, PLEASE VISIT MY EASY PHA-MAX BLOG.http://vaeasypha-max.blogspot.com/ JUST NEED RM 3,800.00 (12 MONTHS 0% INTEREST INSTALMENT) & YOU CAN EARN UP TO RM 50,000.00. RM 3,800.00 WILL BRING YOU HEALTH & WEALTH! Added on May 28, 2008, 2:00 am QUOTE(jongkolkhoo @ Mar 30 2008, 03:51 AM) lonleymyth, EASY PHA-MAX IS A MALAYSIA COMPANY.one minute you claim to be a banker, then the next post you say you are an internet marketer. or are you a scammer ? oops.. spammer..? Added on March 30, 2008, 2:54 am no, it is different. this one is a china usana. No Co. Ref No Company Name 1 381470-K EASY PHA-MAX MARKETING SDN. BHD. 2 764637-A EASY PHA-MAX INTERNATIONAL SDN. BHD. FOR INFORMATION ABOUT EASY PHA-MAX, PLEASE VISIT MY EASY PHA-MAX BLOG. http://vaeasypha-max.blogspot.com/ Vincent & Annie Easy Pha-max Center http://va.easypha-max.com/ Easy Pha-max - "i BeLieve" http://www.easypha-max.com/ HEWO - Health is Cool! http://www.hewo.com/ This post has been edited by bbkhuan: May 28 2008, 02:03 AM |
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QUOTE(lonelymyth @ Feb 5 2008, 02:32 AM) Hehe...Sorry i am new in Lowyat Blog...Regarding easy phamax...Its really a company own by INS-A datuk Of Malaysia..I am an internet marketer that always analyse MLM and all company marketing plan...So for tis one they claim that there are not MLM.Its Truth!!!! You cant get the registration in Direct Sales Malaysia... I do know which Datuk you are refering to. There are using a strategy call Blue Ocean..This is a super bsiness strategy nd this book you can find in MPH,Popoular or Borders.... As a Normal Cosumer-You can purchase an platinm card cost RM5000 value at RM3800 before promotion end..And if you can recruite 4 consumer to the company,you can earn around 10k.....you can use tis card to swap or having meal in easy phamax as well same as the value of RM5000... The consumer need to buy the card from franchisor........ And for franchsing its only available in 6000 frachisor in Malaysia..Now if i not wrong up to ate 5600 sold out... Th franchisor value is RM50000 and its only cost you RM42000 now till promotion end....and you can get alot of benefits such as divided,shares when listed,pool incentives and its quite pretty... Its juz some new blue ocean strategy that work lioke Berjaya group take a master franchise in Malaysia from starbuck ciffe..then sell to investor that would like tobcome franchisor...then invest huge money in advertiing lke starbucks...But the ifferent is E-commerce.... You can sell it to world wide and you can recruit world wide consumersss..i hope that i can make you all understand more..If really interested pls email to my lonelyinvest@yahoo.com........Maybe i ca receommend my friend the CEO of easy phamax to u..As u know the most with leadership will be success faster...Hehe For the product is under GMP factory in china and pass american FDA as well..and many many certification...Want to know more need to go ask ur friend lor...haha My last heard the joining fee is around RM 30k. Now is RM 42k? Added on May 28, 2008, 2:09 am QUOTE(lonelymyth @ Feb 5 2008, 02:32 AM) And for franchsing its only available in 6000 frachisor in Malaysia..Now if i not wrong up to ate 5600 sold out... what happen after all the 6000 Franchiser licenses sold out? where then the member make the money from?Th franchisor value is RM50000 and its only cost you RM42000 now till promotion end....and you can get alot of benefits such as divided,shares when listed,pool incentives and its quite pretty... This post has been edited by Jean72: May 28 2008, 02:09 AM |
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Feb 4 2008, 06:47 PM) I got to know the product when they are still called INS. They got a product that are popular with diabetic people. I do not know how effective it is and so if anyone tried it, pls share your story. INSUPRO FORTE has aprroval from Malaysian Diabetes Association.Slim Care Series & Beauty Woman 123 are effective, many women have tried them & they works. http://vaeasypha-max.blogspot.com/ Added on May 28, 2008, 2:22 am QUOTE(Jean72 @ May 28 2008, 03:06 AM) I do know which Datuk you are refering to. NOW EASY PHA-MAX IS PROMOTING THEIR PLC, JUZ RM 3,800.00 & CAN EARN UP TO RM 50,000.00.My last heard the joining fee is around RM 30k. Now is RM 42k? Added on May 28, 2008, 2:09 am what happen after all the 6000 Franchiser licenses sold out? where then the member make the money from? THIS YEAR END, THEY WILL BE SHOOTING A HONG KONG TVB DRAMA. TVB & EASY PHA-MAX, THINK ABOUT IT, IT WILL BE A HUGE WAVE. http://vaeasypha-max.blogspot.com/ This post has been edited by bbkhuan: May 28 2008, 02:22 AM |
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I was wondering are their products certified and working good all this while ? .. Can't really find any feedback from the consumers and even didn't came across anyone using it.
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May 28 2008, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE sounds like another usana thing. So true. And my father ordered such big package until I can't finish consuming it everyday. Dammit. Every month come one big box. Haiz... QUOTE Hi bro and sister, i m a spam bot Hahaha QUOTE RM 3,800.00 WILL BRING YOU HEALTH & WEALTH! So sad. I am lazy to consume tablets or products. Prefer eating Jacobs Hi-Fibre,drink water and exercise everyday. |
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May 28 2008, 09:29 AM
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Anyone who have a brain should know this easy-phamax is a big scam company, you can do some research over the Internet. I already got inside news say this company is just another LB. Smart strategy but fail in business ethics. Who want money of course can join, just that you lose your moral only.
If you have notice, the easy-phamax advertise eating sugar will cause diabetes, but anyone who got a common science knowledge will know there is no evidence in medical that sugar cause diabetes!!!! they see themselves more knowledgeable than doctor already. |
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May 28 2008, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(ReWeR @ May 28 2008, 09:29 AM) Anyone who have a brain should know this easy-phamax is a big scam company, you can do some research over the Internet. I already got inside news say this company is just another LB. Smart strategy but fail in business ethics. Who want money of course can join, just that you lose your moral only. I do not think it is a scam company. Product wise, I believe it is quite good. As in all MLM company, there will be groups that do not sell products but do recruiting instead. This is why MLM got all the negative feedback. |
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May 28 2008, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ May 28 2008, 09:56 AM) I do not think it is a scam company. Product wise, I believe it is quite good. As in all MLM company, there will be groups that do not sell products but do recruiting instead. This is why MLM got all the negative feedback. You think only, but I got friend who really work in this kind of company (multinational big company that also scam ppl money). He say easy-phamax and LB are same type of con ppl company only. He has been scammer for so long how can't he couldn't notice another scam company? |
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May 28 2008, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(ReWeR @ May 28 2008, 10:00 AM) You think only, but I got friend who really work in this kind of company (multinational big company that also scam ppl money). He say easy-phamax and LB are same type of con ppl company only. He has been scammer for so long how can't he couldn't notice another scam company? You meant your friend is a scammer? Anyway, you should know how does MLM business and its the mechanism works before you start criticizing it. |
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May 28 2008, 10:54 AM
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is easy phamax venture in tvb series?
cause i bought a tvb series "catch me now" starring darren lau and joe ma got the advertistment and logo on the cover. ahhh, i think i must go find another shop to buy dvd. the quality is so-so only. |
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May 28 2008, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(jinroh @ May 28 2008, 10:54 AM) is easy phamax venture in tvb series? Venture into TVB series? I don't think so. Just sponsorhip and advertisement may be. It has been quite aggressive in advertisement and sponsorship programme lately to increase its popularity and push its products or recruitment programme.cause i bought a tvb series "catch me now" starring darren lau and joe ma got the advertistment and logo on the cover. ahhh, i think i must go find another shop to buy dvd. the quality is so-so only. |
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May 28 2008, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ May 28 2008, 10:20 AM) You meant your friend is a scammer? Anyway, you should know how does MLM business and its the mechanism works before you start criticizing it. different people have different way of define scammer. My definition of scammer company is company that 1. selling product that was not as it advertise (much much lower quality), 2. cheat people and make people feel it is a big chance and make them have fake hope to earn money while it is in fact absolutely not true, only few can earn that much, there rest just contribute money only. 3. Giving false information nearly on everything.I don't see how easy-phamax and LB doesn't fall into this category. Ya, my friend do work in a scammer company before, the reason is he want to earn big money to open his own business, he definitely know what is a scam company do and think. Now he earn enough, get out and open own business already. He say it was not ethically right but he got no choice. |
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May 28 2008, 01:05 PM
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I do not think a company with TOYP (THE OUTSTANDING YOUNG PEOPLE OF THE WORLD) as a CEO is a scam company. A scam company will not hired Simon Yam as their spokesmodel.
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May 28 2008, 01:54 PM
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Wondering out loud.
If Easy Pha-max had offered their product via Guardians or Watsons or whatever stores....than would anyone claim them to be a scam?!....... My bet is no. So why when it applies the MLM model, it eventually being classified as scam? |
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May 28 2008, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(shauyan @ May 28 2008, 01:05 PM) I do not think a company with TOYP (THE OUTSTANDING YOUNG PEOPLE OF THE WORLD) as a CEO is a scam company. A scam company will not hired Simon Yam as their spokesmodel. QUOTE(b00n @ May 28 2008, 01:54 PM) Wondering out loud. sigh ... insider already tell you it is a scam but still wanna argue about it, most scam company is super rich, they do billions of billions business, they are friends to Agung and serveral sultans, and work closely with serveral big bank and become an agent between them, they even operate no difference than those super MNC. my friend last time punya scam company office is huge and luxurious, located near KLCC, and his monthly income is more than rm10k (he's the manager in a scam company, side income already more than 20k), he even go play golf with sultan's son. What so big deal if they can get hire TOYP as CEO or hire Simon Yam or put their products in Watsons? All these just require you are rich enough to do it.If Easy Pha-max had offered their product via Guardians or Watsons or whatever stores....than would anyone claim them to be a scam?!....... My bet is no. So why when it applies the MLM model, it eventually being classified as scam? but does that change his super rich, good marketing company not a scam company? Nope, even he and me also very clearly no matter how big or how rich a company is ... scam company is scam company. You have the freedom to ignore my advice, just join as you like, but remember you have been warned today. |
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May 28 2008, 03:16 PM
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That still doesn't answer my "wondering out loud" question....no?
I.e. without the adoption of MLM business and done via conventional way of business (putting their products in pharmacies) .....would there still be ppl saying that it's a scam?! Same goes to LB or ferking any other direct sale products sold or sourced using MLM model. |
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QUOTE(ReWeR @ May 28 2008, 02:32 PM) sigh ... insider already tell you it is a scam but still wanna argue about it, most scam company is super rich, they do billions of billions business, they are friends to Agung and serveral sultans, and work closely with serveral big bank and become an agent between them, they even operate no difference than those super MNC. my friend last time punya scam company office is huge and luxurious, located near KLCC, and his monthly income is more than rm10k (he's the manager in a scam company, side income already more than 20k), he even go play golf with sultan's son. What so big deal if they can get hire TOYP as CEO or hire Simon Yam or put their products in Watsons? All these just require you are rich enough to do it. 1. How you prove it as a scam?Dun just simply talk talk oh.but does that change his super rich, good marketing company not a scam company? Nope, even he and me also very clearly no matter how big or how rich a company is ... scam company is scam company. You have the freedom to ignore my advice, just join as you like, but remember you have been warned today. 2. Can u provide the insider's name? Can let us to check for it. 3. Get hire TOYP as CEO??? I dun think so every millionaire can simply to be TOYP. Dun u understand what is TOYP? 4. Hire Simon Yam, If u have chance watch the interview or see simon yam, u can ask him why he become spokeperson of easypha-max, (I dun think is because of money,coz he become of spokeperson with free of charge) So many product and company in this industry,why he choose Easy pha-max. 5. Advise. Please be responsible for your comment. This post has been edited by SharpLee: Jun 1 2008, 06:29 PM |
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QUOTE(SharpLee @ Jun 1 2008, 06:27 PM) 1. How you prove it as a scam?Dun just simply talk talk oh. hrmmm...both the CEO of LB and INS look really alike 2. Can u provide the insider's name? Can let us to check for it. 3. Get hire TOYP as CEO??? I dun think so every millionaire can simply to be TOYP. Dun u understand what is TOYP? 4. Hire Simon Yam, If u have chance watch the interview or see simon yam, u can ask him why he become spokeperson of easypha-max, (I dun think is because of money,coz he become of spokeperson with free of charge) So many product and company in this industry,why he choose Easy pha-max. 5. Advise. Please be responsible for your comment. Steven Yeam ![]() Datuk David Yeat ![]() Simon Yam is nothing. LB have Datuk Siti Nurhaliza and also Amy Search. |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 5 2008, 10:09 AM) Mostly true, there are plenty of 'hot' season/period for businesses. totally agree what u say.. Normally we only heard and talk success story, those failed one, nobody want to talk about and being swept under the carpet. It is as same for normal businesses or investment. Only a handful company will succeed but lot of failed stories behind. Businesses never been a guaranteed success. A success businesses or business model need plenty factors before it can really success including some timing, some said a little bit of luck as well. Above statement is not related or direct to easy-phamax issue. it will be colddown once saturation reached, every member gets members plan works the same and end the same way. i've seen/been thru many of these company using various strategy. most of the company wont claim as mlm company cos they know it doesnt attracts ppl anymore. there are alots of success story at the beginning, few year later, would it be anymore than the beginning? it wont. failed one alot, and swept under the carpet. if everyone get rich, how those money coming from? so be wise on these kind of get-rich-quick scheme (or scam) |
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wow! since when ppl comparing LB with Easy Pha-max...no wonder easy phamax now so famous. My 2 cents view...they are lot of registered co. now and then for business from conventional to MLM, al are registered and run by laws...if laws is wat they break then it is the law that will enforce them. I'd tested their product, consider not expensive comparing to few MLM in the market...wheter MLM or not, they'd make a very huge competitive market for Herbs for sure as from what they invested for their Herbs Serach engines to new product developments from time to time, so if you ask me i'll rate them as one of those hot potential business for the time being....
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QUOTE(bbkhuan @ May 28 2008, 02:16 AM) INSUPRO FORTE has aprroval from Malaysian Diabetes Association. No proof of that. |
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QUOTE(shauyan @ May 28 2008, 02:05 PM) I do not think a company with TOYP (THE OUTSTANDING YOUNG PEOPLE OF THE WORLD) as a CEO is a scam company. A scam company will not hired Simon Yam as their spokesmodel. excuse me. Do you think those celebrities cared about the integrity of the product they're representing? Don't forget, they're CELEBRITIES. Just give them enough $$$ and they'll start "PERFORMING" if you know what I mean. it's this kind of mindset that made many ppl blindly falls into such traps. |
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Jun 4 2008, 01:14 PM) ![]() Can this be a proof for u??? Feel free come to Penang Adventist Hospital to get the form... QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jun 4 2008, 03:52 PM) excuse me. Do you think those celebrities cared about the integrity of the product they're representing? Don't forget, they're CELEBRITIES. Just give them enough $$$ and they'll start "PERFORMING" if you know what I mean. it's this kind of mindset that made many ppl blindly falls into such traps. Let's say u r celebrities, i can pay u the ENOUGH money, dun u think tht u can PERFORM as well regardless tht for this u all so call scam company???Added on June 5, 2008, 10:00 pm QUOTE(cherroy @ May 28 2008, 10:58 AM) Venture into TVB series? I don't think so. Just sponsorhip and advertisement may be. It has been quite aggressive in advertisement and sponsorship programme lately to increase its popularity and push its products or recruitment programme. There will be the co-operation between Easypha-max and TVB to shoot a series call 草药世家(not really know the english name), dun wanna to tell so much, juz WAIT n SEE, then u'll know wat i have said is true...Added on June 5, 2008, 10:16 pm ![]() Is tht got any MLM or scammer company can get the TOP BRAND of the COMPANY to become strategic alliance??? Izzit the TOP 10 BRAND of the COMPANY is trying together to scam all the people??? Easyphamax now got strategy alliance with BRANDING company, currently is 10 here...there will be got another strategic alliance for the future time...U all wont wait so long...soon enough u will know it Added on June 5, 2008, 10:22 pmCan anyone clarify for me wat is MLM model, and y people said tht Easyphamax is applying MLM model??? This post has been edited by jeslynsung: Jun 5 2008, 10:22 PM |
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QUOTE ![]() Can this be a proof for u??? Feel free come to Penang Adventist Hospital to get the form... INSUPRO FORTE has aprroval from Malaysian Diabetes Association. That picture doesn't show it has approval or sort of things? QUOTE Let's say u r celebrities, i can pay u the ENOUGH money, dun u think tht u can PERFORM as well regardless tht for this u all so call scam company??? Normally they only work for $$. They wont give a damn about what they performing. QUOTE There will be the co-operation between Easypha-max and TVB to shoot a series call 草药世家(not really know the english name), dun wanna to tell so much, juz WAIT n SEE, then u'll know wat i have said is true... Will be? It's not co-operation, but advertisement, sponsorship... QUOTE Is tht got any MLM or scammer company can get the TOP BRAND of the COMPANY to become strategic alliance??? Izzit the TOP 10 BRAND of the COMPANY is trying together to scam all the people??? Easyphamax now got strategy alliance with BRANDING company, currently is 10 here...there will be got another strategic alliance for the future time...U all wont wait so long...soon enough u will know it Strategic alliances is just a form of alliances. We dont even know what's the purpose of the alliances, so, nothing much to shout about... Furthermore, all information is dislosed by Easy Pha-Max, how true is the statement? I doubt anyone can verify.... That's not top 10 brand (mind you) This post has been edited by keith_hjinhoh: Jun 5 2008, 10:46 PM |
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QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Jun 5 2008, 10:46 PM) INSUPRO FORTE has aprroval from Malaysian Diabetes Association. That picture doesn't show it has approval or sort of things? Pls get a true copy n see the overleaf of the form, then u will know...If they r not approve for the product, wat for promoting the product for the diabetes patient???Dun ever think tht $$$ can buy anything....The Associates is not the profit nature company...Product eating involves people life and health...Normally they only work for $$. They wont give a damn about what they performing. Will be? It's not co-operation, but advertisement, sponsorship... Strategic alliances is just a form of alliances. We dont even know what's the purpose of the alliances, so, nothing much to shout about... Furthermore, all information is dislosed by Easy Pha-Max, how true is the statement? I doubt anyone can verify.... That's not top 10 brand (mind you) Normally work for $$$, how to know abt it??? $$$ is more important than his REPUTATION???An international actor willing to work for the company which is not so RELIABLE???Is SIMON YAM is a stupid person???y he wanna take the risk??? in case the company will be happens something tht can ruin his image?he dun care abt tht???Y he wanna quit the CANON n join EASYPHAMAX???the $$$ for simon yam as the CANON spokeman will be less than Easyphamax provided??? The series is talk about wat is EASYPHA-MAX....so this is so call advertisement??Sponsorship??Co-operation??Wait n see n will know how true of the statement... Even not TOP of tht but oso is a well known BRAND right...how true the statement of the information disclose should be go to find out urself and must not 'judges the book by its cover' This post has been edited by jeslynsung: Jun 5 2008, 11:54 PM |
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easypharma is money game la brother, burning tonnes of money without any incoming revenue....
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Jun 13 2008, 12:28 AM
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i know that alot of ppl buy the EZ members are with stock in it about rm30,000 - rm48,000 .....some even buy few EZ's ..so many stock
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Jun 18 2008, 02:32 AM
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Hmm., i do admit that i am attracted to the Simon Yam avertisement, lol.
One thing to know if this is really making we all rich or not or atleast worth or not, look all those rich Datuk in Malaysia, see whether they have any shares or investment via a sub company or as a sponsorship in Easy Phamax, they are Tan Sri William Cheng(LION GROUP/PARKSON'S BOSS), Tan Sri Lee Shin Cheng(IOI), Tan Sri Vincent Tan Chee Yioun(Berjaya), Datuk Lim Kok Thay (Genting), Francis Yeoh(YTL), Tony Fernandez(Air Asia).......... If one you happens to get in touch with those big names i mention above, you can always ask them about Easy Phamax and its value..., they are notable entrepreneurs and they will not let any...........thing to actually destroy their image and all the hard work they have built over years, something like that..., so, thats why i believe we can rely on their opinions... This post has been edited by IanLim: Jun 18 2008, 02:45 AM |
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so how do u all think of this easy pharmax?
Added on July 11, 2008, 6:00 pmif can b like them so rich i oso not mind to work as their partner This post has been edited by cutiepooh: Jul 11 2008, 06:00 PM |
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Sep 30 2008, 08:06 PM
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Dear guys and girls, I'd like to draw your attention regarding the sales of some products from this company on this topic: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/739183 ..Please patiently read it and give your opinions or critiques in the spirit of contributing to LYN..Thank you..
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Nov 25 2008, 10:46 AM
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Easy Pha-max Marketing Sdn Bhd is the subsidiary of INS Bioscience, which is the marketing and distribution arm of Easy Pha-max brand of health supplement in the local and international markets. Easy Pha-max, among others, is leading in the biotechnology of herbal health supplement. Drawing from the success of its Wheatgrass products, Easy Pha-max has expanded its range of wheatgrass based health supplements to include functional foods, meal replacement drinks for slimming products, trimming products, personal care and skin care products as well as the Bio-Herbs health supplement to meet the accelerating demand for herbal health supplements around the globe.
Easy Pha-max benefits from the operations of its parent company – INS Bio which is listed on the MESDAQ market of Bursa Malaysia. It is principally involved in Biotechnology and Research & Development of herbal remedies as well as the cultivation, processing and manufacturing of herbs. Check out my site here www.myeasycenter.com/shane My name is Shane Mendoza and I live in Trinidad and Tobago in the Caribbean and I have joined. You can check out my website at Easy Pha-max Lifestyles to see the trips that Easy Pha-max has sponsored for franchise owners from various parts of the world. This is a legitimate franchise opportunity not a mlm. Feel free to view the website or pm me with your questions for more information. This post has been edited by besstech: Nov 25 2008, 11:21 AM |
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My friend's dad is the share holder -)
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Dec 9 2008, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(chatwarrior @ Dec 2 2008, 10:32 PM) If you are refering to EasyPharmax, be careful. I have a few friends lost some money and could not get anything back. This Company has changed names or products many times. I think someone gave some info about them under the thread "stop scams" or something. I know easy pharmax comes from INS, but I don't have a clue of the company changing names and products many times.Do you have any information regarding this ? I am doing some research this company wether to join or not. Hope to learn from your friends how they lost their money, and the "stop scams" info. PM me if anything private, thnks. |
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Feb 9 2009, 02:13 PM
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Beware!
Forumer Chatwarrior post with agenda behind! Voted 0% trustworthy. |
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Feb 26 2009, 12:44 AM
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I don't know where you all are getting your information from but Easy Pha-max has not been changing names or products. They have signed agreements with various companies known as their S.A.P's (Strategic Alliance Partners) and have gotten a whole new line of products. Datuk David Yeat Sew Chuong is one of the ten richest men in Malaysia if you don't me believe look him up on google or something. I have been a franchise owner over a year now and I have made back all of the money that I invested with alot of profit. Anyone telling you that Easy Pha-max is not a good company or that people have lost money ask them for proof. If you need proof on how great a company they are then ask me. Check out this video to see the kind of money that Datuk Yeat spends [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VtBUWoAb0Y&feature=channel] this is an all expenses paid trip for Easy Pha-max Franchise owners. Now if he can sponsor an all expenses paid trip for Franchise owners from all over the world then why would he rob you a couple of dollars, and it is more that one trip all expenses paid trip that he sponsored. The last one was in October and it was to the Palace Of The Golden Horses. Don't be fooled people INS Easy Pha-max is doing well and is here to stay.
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Feb 27 2009, 02:15 PM
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Hi BESSTECH, you are right, I don't know where they got their info, all kind of funny, innocent & childish things, so lame!
I agree with Lowyat Screener, they perhaps from Easy Pha-max competitor and write with motive and agenda behind! For those who want to watch the latest photos about Easy Pha-max, just click below url: http://picasaweb.google.com/i.am.robertloh For those who seriously want to use Easy Pha-max ready platform to generate good income, email me at i.am.robert@gmail.com! Fees to use Easy Pha-max platform is RM6000. From Robert Loh with UOS2U support system ______________________________________ Look around for those who have UOS2U support system if you want to become Easy Pha-max partners, you will never regret! |
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Mar 2 2009, 12:23 PM
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is a direct sales company and lot of merchandise they are selling, mostly is healthy food.
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QUOTE(YellowpageS @ Mar 2 2009, 12:23 PM) Easy Pha-max call this human network or MEP Plan!In addition, Easy Pha-max have online franchise shop, this is call Network On the Air, visit www.easypha-max.com. Furthermore, Easy Pha-max will have 60 Franchise shop called Easy Mall around Malaysia in 2009, this is call Network On the Ground. Easy Pha-max is a biz strategy included Human Network + Online Network + On the Ground Network globally. _______________ Addition: http://picasaweb.google.com/i.am.robertloh www.easypha-max.com www.easypha-max.cn.net www.easypha-maxusa.com _______________ www.hewo.com - Easy Pha-max herbs search engine and portal. _______________ |
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To eveeryone,
anything that you put into your mouth should be well researched and proven first. i havent heard of the history of the company, or the feedbacks from customers taking it or the side effects from it. suplpements shouldnt be taken lightly as it goes straight into our body. if u watched discovery channel, many types of drugs/medication/supplements approved by FDA in US were found to be bad for health instead taken in a long run. so the question is...how long have anyone here been taking easy phamax? and any side effects? im not saying its bad, but results and history speaks. we're no scientists or doctors or nutritionists, so we certainly dont wanna become your lab rat, if u know what i mean |
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any updates in this MLM business?
any success/failure stories to share? thx |
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Jun 3 2009, 07:41 AM
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You must be serious if you want to join. Unless you have extra money to play around. Better invest something more useful.
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This is a very good company that I am inspire of Datuk Yeat's future mission and vision to maintain the Herb Technology and Supply in Asia.
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Any company that promises a lot of money with little work involved makes me suspicious now...there is no free lunch.
BTW any updates on the 60 shops that were supposed to be opened by the end of this year? |
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Now got 3 shops opened in Puchong, Penang and Kuantan... coming will have more to open by end of this year...
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Aug 19 2009, 06:31 PM
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Where In KLCC??? or some where else???
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Just attended their seminar last week. The price now increase to RM7000!!!
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 25 2009, 10:39 AM) Now aday, if you want to setup a business you need how much initial capital ?? We talk about a small scale franchise coffee shop, you may need RM100k to start the business, minus your human resource pay, utilities charges, shop rental...etc, if you can earn RM10k per month, consider very good already. Now with small investment fund, you can fully utilize the multinational platform which is built up with 400 Millions, well known and award winning's products, the franchise concept to start your own business. |
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Oct 5 2009, 09:35 PM
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Just attended their MEP ceromony in Sunway Convention Centre. Quite an event and good introduction to me.
Currently researching more on the company and would like to hear more from other members too. The price to join now is RM 7k ++ i cant remember the exact figure. The only thing bothering me now is the amount of products they have to sell. It doesnt seem like alot and not everyone is always interested in health food because it cannot be trusted and there is no proof that these products they are selling are in fact good for us. |
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Easy Pha-max biz strategy to put all 3 keys element all in one is really good. It combine Internet=E-Cormmerce, Outlet Store or Participate Merchant, Network Marketing=People. And They are the first one in Malaysia dare to do it.
The weak point is they only sell herbs (especially major product are from ex-INS). I did study their plan, it is very workable if you are really passion to study herbs & sell it. Else you will fail. As i am also looking for workable online biz, i found a better one. Please visit my E-Franchise store: Dyuemall - Start with a Click! The concepts is the same but it attract more merchant to join in especially big branch like ROLEX, OGAWA, NIKE, NOKIA & SONY ERICSSON...etc. If I want to sell then i rather sell like a Shopping Mall. Just my opinion. Thank you. Regards, Eric koch_hot88@yahoo.com This post has been edited by koch_hot: Oct 6 2009, 10:22 AM |
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FYI,Easy Pha-max is just the Subsidiary of INSBIO!!
INSBIO has appointed ex-PJ Selatan assemblyman Donald Lim Siang Chai (One of the MCA leaders) to become Independent Non-Executive Chairman ( info pls refer here:INSBIO Board of Director ) Below is the extra information got it from Bursa Malaysia Website: ![]() Good or bad you guys have to think about it This post has been edited by Ralph: Oct 7 2009, 12:23 PM |
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Dec 7 2009, 12:00 PM
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Hi all.....
I owned a food catering company in Penang, at 1st i am anti direct selling and MLM, but why i accept Easy Phamax because of it's marketing stratergy and it is not a MLM or direct selling company. IT IS A NEW CONCEPT OF TRADITIONAL + FRANCHISE BUSINESS. I Invest as a MEP business partner from since 28 Oct 2009Easy Phamax.... just want to share with you all somethings. Q1) What is MLM and what is Direct selling? A1) MLM (multi level marketing) is a old time marketing plan to those upline to get overidding commission from downline. Direct selling is a marketing plan to direct sell products from members to users and member will get a small commission or earn points to redeem products from the company. Q2) Who is the bosses of brazil mushroom or Lamb Berger? Where they all came from? A2) - Honestly i don't know who are their even they keep telling us how outstanding is their bosses. - And all this Companies and products are from other Country......?? But easy phamax is totally a MALAYSIAN BRAND whch supported by our \ PM, past PM & many of Ministries. Q3) What kinds marketing stratergy and mission + vission is Easy Pha-Max ? - Afterthe analysis of herbs in world market, estimate in year 2050, herbs in world market stand about USD 5 trillion/RM 18Trillion. - INS Bio Science Technology is a listed Company in Mlaysia since 2005. and the Founder is the world outstanding young person 2003 winner, Dato Yeat Sew Chuong. - Past 3 years he spent RM10 million a year to advertied in Malaysia without selling any products, because hewant to build a brand name (EASY PHA-MAX) in malaysia to make his pertners (us) to achieve our dream easier. - Easy Pha-Max open a Franchise Shop like Watsons, Guardian, GNC, Yu Ren Sheng & Hai "O", beside a shop, we also can order products online and it calls E-Commerce - Nowdays is the timing for us to grab this golden oppotunity. - Even tought there are news reported Easy Pha-Max (If this is a MLM or direct selling company or money game, do you think news will report?) Please do not forget, advertisement can pay $$$ for advertising but news is unavailable. Q4) How much you have to invest in easy phamax? - Only RM 7500 and can pay by credit card in 12months (0% interest ezy payment = RM625/month) - Of cause, many of you had been ask to invest RM30 before, but i can tell you Dato Yeat really take care to all Malaysian, so he ceate 3 marketing plans which are RM1,250(individual pack) /RM 7,500 (family pack) & RM 25,000 (business pack) (whole life business) for each level of Malaysian. - But i can tell you the best plan is RM7500 (Family Package).... if you want to know more detail of their marketing plan, you can email me billy@springonion.com.my Q5) What risk if you join as a pertner of easy phamax? - When you join RM7500 as family Package partners, you will get 7500 E-points which evaluable to RM1.00/point. - You can redeem at EASY MALL.... so you have no risk... - The other point of view is you just spend RM7500 for your whole family yearly usage of supplement or vitamins Q6) Marketing Plan to earn money? - You may email me for more inquiry billy@springonion.com.my Summary: I joint easy phamax @ RM7500 and within 2 weeks i got back my ROI (return of investment = RM7500 + 18.750 points). now i can use the products for free and some more i reccomend my friends i can earn points, when my friends finds friends i can get jackpot bonus. So i can't give a reason why i must reject this offer... |
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get 2 ppl in (rm15k) biz only get rm800 commision
800/15000 = 5.3% |
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Dec 11 2009, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(ETEAM TRADING @ Dec 7 2009, 04:31 PM) RM800 is a pairing bonus, means when your left got 3 people and right got 5 people, means you get only get 3 pairs x RM800 = RM2400other then pairing bonus, Company also have achievement bonus, new accont bonus and jackpot bonus upto RM30K The only way to get back our ROI (return of Investment is very simple Just find 2 trustworthy life time partners and they also doing the same thing like you finds 2 partners...... means that you have 3 people on your left and 3 people on your right, then you got 3 pairs x RM800 = RM 2400 + Achievement Bonus RM 1200 + New Acount Bonus RM 3750 Total = RM 7350 (return of investment) Beside of that, you earn 18,750Epoints equal to RM1/points, then you can redeem products from the Company........ Within 3 months if your group grow to 15 people on your left ang 15 people on your right, you will get the Jackpot Bonus of RM30K |
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QUOTE(billylch @ Dec 11 2009, 01:23 PM) RM800 is a pairing bonus, means when your left got 3 people and right got 5 people, means you get only get 3 pairs x RM800 = RM2400 so 6 x 7500 = 45k bizother then pairing bonus, Company also have achievement bonus, new accont bonus and jackpot bonus upto RM30K The only way to get back our ROI (return of Investment is very simple Just find 2 trustworthy life time partners and they also doing the same thing like you finds 2 partners...... means that you have 3 people on your left and 3 people on your right, then you got 3 pairs x RM800 = RM 2400 + Achievement Bonus RM 1200 + New Acount Bonus RM 3750 Total = RM 7350 (return of investment) Beside of that, you earn 18,750Epoints equal to RM1/points, then you can redeem products from the Company........ Within 3 months if your group grow to 15 people on your left ang 15 people on your right, you will get the Jackpot Bonus of RM30K 7350/45k = 16.3 % return so 30 x 7500 = 225k biz 42k/225k = 18.6 % return.. dun u think too less? how many ppl willing to take out rm7500 nowaday? how if nobody in (let said, no luck)? 7500 exhange the point for the company product? |
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QUOTE(billylch @ Dec 7 2009, 12:00 PM) Hi all..... You are really a JOKERS. Typical MLM selling pyramid. Does my family need such value of RM7500 of vitamins or supplements.I owned a food catering company in Penang, at 1st i am anti direct selling and MLM, but why i accept Easy Phamax because of it's marketing stratergy and it is not a MLM or direct selling company. IT IS A NEW CONCEPT OF TRADITIONAL + FRANCHISE BUSINESS. I Invest as a MEP business partner from since 28 Oct 2009Easy Phamax.... just want to share with you all somethings. Q1) What is MLM and what is Direct selling? A1) MLM (multi level marketing) is a old time marketing plan to those upline to get overidding commission from downline. Direct selling is a marketing plan to direct sell products from members to users and member will get a small commission or earn points to redeem products from the company. Q2) Who is the bosses of brazil mushroom or Lamb Berger? Where they all came from? A2) - Honestly i don't know who are their even they keep telling us how outstanding is their bosses. - And all this Companies and products are from other Country......?? But easy phamax is totally a MALAYSIAN BRAND whch supported by our \ PM, past PM & many of Ministries. Q3) What kinds marketing stratergy and mission + vission is Easy Pha-Max ? - Afterthe analysis of herbs in world market, estimate in year 2050, herbs in world market stand about USD 5 trillion/RM 18Trillion. - INS Bio Science Technology is a listed Company in Mlaysia since 2005. and the Founder is the world outstanding young person 2003 winner, Dato Yeat Sew Chuong. - Past 3 years he spent RM10 million a year to advertied in Malaysia without selling any products, because hewant to build a brand name (EASY PHA-MAX) in malaysia to make his pertners (us) to achieve our dream easier. - Easy Pha-Max open a Franchise Shop like Watsons, Guardian, GNC, Yu Ren Sheng & Hai "O", beside a shop, we also can order products online and it calls E-Commerce - Nowdays is the timing for us to grab this golden oppotunity. - Even tought there are news reported Easy Pha-Max (If this is a MLM or direct selling company or money game, do you think news will report?) Please do not forget, advertisement can pay $$$ for advertising but news is unavailable. Q4) How much you have to invest in easy phamax? - Only RM 7500 and can pay by credit card in 12months (0% interest ezy payment = RM625/month) - Of cause, many of you had been ask to invest RM30 before, but i can tell you Dato Yeat really take care to all Malaysian, so he ceate 3 marketing plans which are RM1,250(individual pack) /RM 7,500 (family pack) & RM 25,000 (business pack) (whole life business) for each level of Malaysian. - But i can tell you the best plan is RM7500 (Family Package).... if you want to know more detail of their marketing plan, you can email me billy@springonion.com.my Q5) What risk if you join as a pertner of easy phamax? - When you join RM7500 as family Package partners, you will get 7500 E-points which evaluable to RM1.00/point. - You can redeem at EASY MALL.... so you have no risk... - The other point of view is you just spend RM7500 for your whole family yearly usage of supplement or vitamins Q6) Marketing Plan to earn money? - You may email me for more inquiry billy@springonion.com.my Summary: I joint easy phamax @ RM7500 and within 2 weeks i got back my ROI (return of investment = RM7500 + 18.750 points). now i can use the products for free and some more i reccomend my friends i can earn points, when my friends finds friends i can get jackpot bonus. So i can't give a reason why i must reject this offer... Btw, when someone interested most probably u will pursue him/her to take up value RM25k as again the stupid MLM hierarchy. When he/she comments don't have such money, then you probably said dont worry we can apply 3-5 credit cards that meet ur 25k requirement. Good luck jokers... |
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QUOTE(koch_hot @ Oct 6 2009, 10:02 AM) Easy Pha-max biz strategy to put all 3 keys element all in one is really good. It combine Internet=E-Cormmerce, Outlet Store or Participate Merchant, Network Marketing=People. And They are the first one in Malaysia dare to do it. study herbs and sell it?The weak point is they only sell herbs (especially major product are from ex-INS). I did study their plan, it is very workable if you are really passion to study herbs & sell it. Else you will fail. As i am also looking for workable online biz, i found a better one. Please visit my E-Franchise store: Dyuemall - Start with a Click! The concepts is the same but it attract more merchant to join in especially big branch like ROLEX, OGAWA, NIKE, NOKIA & SONY ERICSSON...etc. If I want to sell then i rather sell like a Shopping Mall. Just my opinion. Thank you. Regards, Eric koch_hot88@yahoo.com I would like to know the the facts concerned. Added on December 13, 2009, 8:51 pm QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 23 2007, 03:45 PM) The problem is some of their members not view it as selling a product, but selling franchise to get downline to earn from the new members joining rather than selling the product. They have no interest to sell the product at all, just concentrate to get downline franchising to earn and ask the downline franchising to get more down line (to form a pyramid type of downline), at least the person persuaded me last time explaining to me one. He said don't need to sell the product one, just concentrate to get more downline is enough to earn the money. Himself joining one also don't know the product his should be selling anyway. OMG, it is really irking me. i have joined MLM company for just a few weeks ago and what they promise me is that i can learn a lots of things like management, leadershps and soft skills through all sorts of programmes participated.Well, i believe i could have at least attain and learn up some skills through the seminars concerned, but when i receive the selling kits when i first register a as a memeber, i just feel uneasy and don't know much how to start off the selling processes. Now, i have tried my best to attend whatever seminars and talks that are being organised and i find nothing good that can really impress me. I am so regret of joining it. perhaps i am not the kind of persuasive people who can largely involve in sales. i am just a victime of those being persuaded into the downliner. This post has been edited by OMG!: Dec 13 2009, 08:51 PM |
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Last week got alot of bus in their office area.
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last weekend, one of my fren ask me to go to a economic forum and dunno wat wat business seminar/conference.
then i end up at palace of golden horse ballroom.... listening to Mr Dato' Easy Pha-max lecture another of those mlm..... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz dun waste your time. serious. but 1 thing i can confirm you, atleast this whole thing feels better than lamb-burger. thats the onli possitive thing i can think off... other than that, its still MLM.... |
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But still so many people joined them ..duno why..
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QUOTE(leyley @ Dec 14 2009, 10:24 PM) becoz they all wan make $$$, work or not work depend on each POV. if u got 7500, ur 2 friend got 7500... then might work... if u dun hv, ur frend also dun hv... then not work... simple & commen sense...but tis is a typical PYRAMID SCHEMES...must paring only can get commision...else just little bit only.. This post has been edited by ETEAM TRADING: Dec 16 2009, 11:07 AM |
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QUOTE(ETEAM TRADING @ Dec 15 2009, 10:29 AM) becoz they all wan make $$$, work or not work depend on each POV. if u got 7500, ur 2 friend got 7500... then might work... if u dun hv, ur frend also dun hv... then not work... simple & commen sense...but tis is a typical PYRAMID SCHEMES...must paring only can get commision...else just little bit only.. if you feel statify your current salary and you won't doing yor own business in future, then u better dun grap any oppotunity that occur infront of u....why? if you going to open a shop or something like boutique for your wife/girl friend... what u have to do? 1st thing....$$$$ not RM7500 but maybe RM75000 or at least RM50k n above for renovation, advertisement and promotion fees, purchase stock, raw material or equipments n etc....... then u start ur own business....... can you guarantee you can earn back your RM50K or RM75K? and when ?after a month? can you guarantee 1st day u can make RM 1000 sales? you have many friends and networking to bring more sales for u? dun forget no matter how much u make, u still have to pay salary and rental monthly..... not a small money ya.... I am now easy pha-max MEP partners, and i only use 2 weeks to return of investment (RM7500), some more i only joined 2 months i already hit the jackpot bonus RM30K..... how much i invested? only RM7.5k.... n i got net profit RM30K within 2mths...... n i no need pay for staff salary and monthly rental too..... i don't know y u all keep talking this is not work and very hard to earn money..... but for me, i earned RM30K already..... hahah it is up to u alll...... Succeesors Create Way to Success Losers Create Reason |
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Dec 24 2009, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(billylch @ Dec 24 2009, 11:01 AM) if you feel statify your current salary and you won't doing yor own business in future, then u better dun grap any oppotunity that occur infront of u.... ur 30k come in when after ur d/ls put in around 200k, is a typical PYRAMID SCHEMES, cannot c any REPEAT SALE EVERY MOHTH there... SIMPLE SAID, NO PPL IN NO MONEY IN.why? if you going to open a shop or something like boutique for your wife/girl friend... what u have to do? 1st thing....$$$$ not RM7500 but maybe RM75000 or at least RM50k n above for renovation, advertisement and promotion fees, purchase stock, raw material or equipments n etc....... then u start ur own business....... can you guarantee you can earn back your RM50K or RM75K? and when ?after a month? can you guarantee 1st day u can make RM 1000 sales? you have many friends and networking to bring more sales for u? dun forget no matter how much u make, u still have to pay salary and rental monthly..... not a small money ya.... I am now easy pha-max MEP partners, and i only use 2 weeks to return of investment (RM7500), some more i only joined 2 months i already hit the jackpot bonus RM30K..... how much i invested? only RM7.5k.... n i got net profit RM30K within 2mths...... n i no need pay for staff salary and monthly rental too..... i don't know y u all keep talking this is not work and very hard to earn money..... but for me, i earned RM30K already..... hahah it is up to u alll...... Succeesors Create Way to Success Losers Create Reason ur company very smart, no need direct loan from bank, n ask u guy loan it for their own empire develop. ... LOL.. finally got earn $ like u ok lah, no earn $$ one just another debt to bank.. |
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Dec 24 2009, 11:53 AM
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If Easy-Phamax stops asking people to "BELIEVE" and convince us without the need for brain washing, I'll join.
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Dec 24 2009, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE(ETEAM TRADING @ Dec 24 2009, 11:51 AM) ur 30k come in when after ur d/ls put in around 200k, is a typical PYRAMID SCHEMES, cannot c any REPEAT SALE EVERY MOHTH there... SIMPLE SAID, NO PPL IN NO MONEY IN. of coz..... how much ur boss make/mth and hw much he paid out for all staff? ur company very smart, no need direct loan from bank, n ask u guy loan it for their own empire develop. ... LOL.. finally got earn $ like u ok lah, no earn $$ one just another debt to bank.. when u invest RM7.5k n u get 7500points = RM1/point? what u lose? i think u yearly family supplement and others things consumption also more or less RM7k what the problems instead u spent in Giant/Tesco n now u spent in easy mall? (easy pha-max) u guys always scare and blame all MLM, said they earn more than us and all 001 always earn more than us..... if wanna join have to join in early otherwise u late, u cant get anything.........??? funny la.... whats wrong if u buy things from Tesco, did tesco give u extra bonus when u bring ur frens to shop in tesco? u try tell ur fren today tesco promotion medium prawns, when ur frens buy the prawns n u ask commission from tesco la.... or maybe ask discount from tesco becoz of u reccomend ur fren to spend in tesco on the day of promotion. so what do u think when u invest a investment plan in insurance company? unti trust? the agent said minimum 8-10% return /year, but at the end the company only pay out 5%... will u say that the company cheating u?....... |
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Dec 24 2009, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(billylch @ Dec 24 2009, 12:48 PM) of coz..... how much ur boss make/mth and hw much he paid out for all staff? LOL, u wan compare ur company to tesco/giant/carrefour, totally different story...... too far away from the product range & price..when u invest RM7.5k n u get 7500points = RM1/point? what u lose? i think u yearly family supplement and others things consumption also more or less RM7k what the problems instead u spent in Giant/Tesco n now u spent in easy mall? (easy pha-max) u guys always scare and blame all MLM, said they earn more than us and all 001 always earn more than us..... if wanna join have to join in early otherwise u late, u cant get anything.........??? funny la.... whats wrong if u buy things from Tesco, did tesco give u extra bonus when u bring ur frens to shop in tesco? u try tell ur fren today tesco promotion medium prawns, when ur frens buy the prawns n u ask commission from tesco la.... or maybe ask discount from tesco becoz of u reccomend ur fren to spend in tesco on the day of promotion. so what do u think when u invest a investment plan in insurance company? unti trust? the agent said minimum 8-10% return /year, but at the end the company only pay out 5%... will u say that the company cheating u?....... know MAKRO? also wan to do like mlm b4, finally take over by Tesco.. u think can compare? so wan do like HAI-O, IPC, mlm too.. wat about now?.. develop into restaurant like IRC? steven corner? wat a great company, use u guy $$ to put advertisement n celebrity, invest to property... normally mlm company less do tis then can devide more commision to memeber who make recuitment (same like make ads) This post has been edited by ETEAM TRADING: Dec 24 2009, 02:14 PM |
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Dec 24 2009, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(billylch @ Dec 24 2009, 11:01 AM) can you guarantee you can earn back your RM50K or RM75K? and when ?after a month? I don't quite understand the comparison, is the RM7500 guarantee can get profit RM30K as well? can you guarantee 1st day u can make RM 1000 sales? you have many friends and networking to bring more sales for u? dun forget no matter how much u make, u still have to pay salary and rental monthly..... not a small money ya.... I am now easy pha-max MEP partners, and i only use 2 weeks to return of investment (RM7500), some more i only joined 2 months i already hit the jackpot bonus RM30K..... how much i invested? only RM7.5k.... n i got net profit RM30K within 2mths...... n i no need pay for staff salary and monthly rental too..... i don't know y u all keep talking this is not work and very hard to earn money..... but for me, i earned RM30K already..... hahah it is up to u alll...... QUOTE(billylch @ Dec 24 2009, 12:48 PM) of coz..... how much ur boss make/mth and hw much he paid out for all staff? The difference? when u invest RM7.5k n u get 7500points = RM1/point? what u lose? i think u yearly family supplement and others things consumption also more or less RM7k what the problems instead u spent in Giant/Tesco n now u spent in easy mall? (easy pha-max) u guys always scare and blame all MLM, said they earn more than us and all 001 always earn more than us..... if wanna join have to join in early otherwise u late, u cant get anything.........??? funny la.... whats wrong if u buy things from Tesco, did tesco give u extra bonus when u bring ur frens to shop in tesco? u try tell ur fren today tesco promotion medium prawns, when ur frens buy the prawns n u ask commission from tesco la.... or maybe ask discount from tesco becoz of u reccomend ur fren to spend in tesco on the day of promotion. so what do u think when u invest a investment plan in insurance company? unti trust? the agent said minimum 8-10% return /year, but at the end the company only pay out 5%... will u say that the company cheating u?....... Giant/Tesco got sell rice, bread, eggs. Tesco did give extra bonus or points if we recommend people to buy ? Sorry again I am noob in understand the comparison. Yes, it is a misleading if they said min 8-10%. But so far I only come across in the prospectus, they never said it is guanranteed to be 8-10%, it is just stated based on historical data of 5 years or 10 years, their UT did give 8-10% while stated previous past performance is not the indicate or guarantee to be the same. They never use the word of guaranteed. You can complain to BNM if they did use the word guarantee. Congratulation you earn 30 or 50 K over 2 months with Rm7500. I think (personal opinion) you should put RM75K or even more by then millionaire dream can be achieved within few month time. |
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Dec 28 2009, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 24 2009, 02:11 PM) I don't quite understand the comparison, is the RM7500 guarantee can get profit RM30K as well? Thank you very much..... of coz i will earn another few 50k becoz i m in this business d. i believe i will achieve my target.The difference? Giant/Tesco got sell rice, bread, eggs. Tesco did give extra bonus or points if we recommend people to buy ? Sorry again I am noob in understand the comparison. Yes, it is a misleading if they said min 8-10%. But so far I only come across in the prospectus, they never said it is guanranteed to be 8-10%, it is just stated based on historical data of 5 years or 10 years, their UT did give 8-10% while stated previous past performance is not the indicate or guarantee to be the same. They never use the word of guaranteed. You can complain to BNM if they did use the word guarantee. Congratulation you earn 30 or 50 K over 2 months with Rm7500. I think (personal opinion) you should put RM75K or even more by then millionaire dream can be achieved within few month time. but for those who keep talking without understanding or totally ignore this opportunity even their don't let their friends to share about this investment plan people, and somemore don't want to invest RM7.5k..... very sad, you never have chance to get this amount. REMEMBER this proverb: "you will not get 100% return if you invest, but you are definately can't get any return when you didn't invest"..... |
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Dec 28 2009, 04:42 PM
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rule of thumb, all mlm products price is being jacked up at least 5times, otherwise they wont have enough money to payout out those sponsor bonus, direct referral bonus, overriding bonus, royalty bonus, group performance bonus... u name it!
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Dec 28 2009, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(billylch @ Dec 28 2009, 11:44 AM) but for those who keep talking without understanding or totally ignore this opportunity even their don't let their friends to share about this investment plan people, and somemore don't want to invest RM7.5k..... very sad, you never have chance to get this amount. Why care about other ignoring the opportunity or feel sad about others don't want to invest? REMEMBER this proverb: "you will not get 100% return if you invest, but you are definately can't get any return when you didn't invest"..... I don't quite understand the logic of it. As in term of logic, people should care if too many people already invested, lead to no opportunity to invest anymore. |
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Dec 28 2009, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 28 2009, 04:52 PM) As in term of logic, people should care if too many people already invested, lead to no opportunity to invest anymore. investing is one part, another is they must keep swallowing those high priced supplements to maintain good health & make sure others follow suit so the co. will have more bonus to payout when investors runs out of products & invest more for stocks or re-sell |
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Dec 28 2009, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(T630 @ Dec 28 2009, 04:42 PM) rule of thumb, all mlm products price is being jacked up at least 5times, otherwise they wont have enough money to payout out those sponsor bonus, direct referral bonus, overriding bonus, royalty bonus, group performance bonus... u name it! good co. can pay so many bonus from their advertisment cost... instead of yearly few mil n mil pay to advetiser rather than pay to their biz owners or leader.. but ur company still pay so much for advitisers, celebrities..so on..tat y the bonus go down.. as the calculation above.. |
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Dec 28 2009, 10:03 PM
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These MLM members get members bullshits, u r actually destroying a lot of friendships. Down the road people who sell these schemes will be cursed by people who felt cheated from buying them. Make money by making friends not enemies or disgrunted friends and customers.
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Dec 28 2009, 11:45 PM
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QUOTE(alenac @ Dec 28 2009, 10:03 PM) These MLM members get members bullshits, u r actually destroying a lot of friendships. Down the road people who sell these schemes will be cursed by people who felt cheated from buying them. Make money by making friends not enemies or disgrunted friends and customers. this will be the outcome when one dont thoroughly explain the whole concept, just by saying will earn certain potential of monthly income translate to lots of hard work will be required... this, normally not being told when prospecting frens & customers thus becomes felt cheated, disgrunted... |
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Jan 20 2010, 02:10 AM
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Unlucky, I am the one who join this company with many dream (as they present) 2 years ago. At that time i was "invest" RM36K as a franchiser. But I can say this franchiser = consumer, simply because you get the same value of their product. other than that you won't get any benefit from this program.
From the beginning, I work hard with this company and "believe" this company can archive fortune 500 (as they present) and bring me to high income level. Unfortunately, after 4 months i decide to give up this program with thousand of regret. You CAN'T BELIEVE This is company. Many of the "Investor" give up in the end also. And keep 30k (some even more like 150k) of product for own consume. For me, I sold all my stock at cheap cheap price to my cousin and friend, no point for keeping those product. I loss alot of money to get a expensive course. My advise Don't join (DON'T BELIEVE) this company especially to all those who are planning to join. Unless you want to consume their product with the price you going to "invest". If you already "invest" and keep alot of stock, you may try to contact me. I hope I can help you some. Ting YT ting_yt85@hotmail.com |
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Jan 20 2010, 11:39 AM
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I guess people always LOVE the learn lesson through pains. Greedy and teenage dreams destroy themselves. |
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Jan 21 2010, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(ting_yt @ Jan 20 2010, 02:10 AM) Unlucky, I am the one who join this company with many dream (as they present) 2 years ago. At that time i was "invest" RM36K as a franchiser. But I can say this franchiser = consumer, simply because you get the same value of their product. other than that you won't get any benefit from this program. u hav try invite all ur friends n family to the opp? or u just wait n c after getting ur 2 dls? or u after join keep sleeping?From the beginning, I work hard with this company and "believe" this company can archive fortune 500 (as they present) and bring me to high income level. Unfortunately, after 4 months i decide to give up this program with thousand of regret. You CAN'T BELIEVE This is company. Many of the "Investor" give up in the end also. And keep 30k (some even more like 150k) of product for own consume. For me, I sold all my stock at cheap cheap price to my cousin and friend, no point for keeping those product. I loss alot of money to get a expensive course. My advise Don't join (DON'T BELIEVE) this company especially to all those who are planning to join. Unless you want to consume their product with the price you going to "invest". If you already "invest" and keep alot of stock, you may try to contact me. I hope I can help you some. Ting YT ting_yt85@hotmail.com |
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Jan 22 2010, 12:32 AM
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we hv to ask thoroughly before commit to such a large sum of stock as money will be stuck as stocks... how exactly the marketing plans works...
frankly, mlm will alwiz need to bring in new investors to enjoy the bonuses... nothing will happen if u invested & do nothing... |
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Jan 22 2010, 01:11 AM
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From my understanding, Easy-pha max is a company who selling chinese herb.
7.5k give return of 30k quite hard lo...currently most make money in financial market is share...their return is higher than share...if they really can do it...really need to salute and congratulate them...because they will own microsoft within 20 years. If pay X amount of money can get the same value of the product i dun think it is equavalent. Because your identity is investor. As an investor you should get the same amount you pay with the value of the product COST...not the selling price. MLM ? ppl say they dun register under MLM...but structure is about the same. So....fren or Money ( MLM ) u choose lo... |
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Feb 2 2010, 12:40 PM
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3,188 posts Joined: Jul 2007 From: A place called "home" |
I just read a forwarded email. Just to share
QUOTE Most people have heard about EasyPha-max by now. If you have not heard about them yet, this Company has their office in Puchong. The boss is a Dato Yip or Yeap(another Dato !!). He has a younger brother named Danny. They used to market wheatgrass products about 10 years ago under the name of INS. After INS failed, they went into other locally manufactured health supplements using some new tricks like "food-accroding-to-blood-types". It failed and they used the Blue Ocean Marketing Strategy and changed their name to EasyPha-max following James Phang's Sunshine Empire trick of "fixed investment return" SCAM. EasyPha-max's fixed investment scam sounded more promising. Besides a false promised fixed return, they advise their members who invested by purchasing around RM30,000 worth of stock each to KEEP their stock with the Company so that the Company will help them to sell their stocks through their online EC shop. This trick also sounded better than Lampe Berger where the victims has no hope of selling their stocks. Even better for the Company, no products need to be given to anyone. Months passed, of course, the members don't get back any money. News spread, some members even go to make police reports, nothing can be done. The Company management gave some excuses: "We are still helping you to sell your products, which other Comnpany ever help you on that ?" "Will you like us to fail and close shop ? You will lose everything and no chance of recovering back your money if that happens" "Be patient, we will have a new plan out soon that GUARANTEE all of you will get back your money with more income". Obviously, victims don't hope their Company to close shop. They hope the Company will CONtinue to do well so that they have a chance of getting their money back. During that time, their Malaysian business started to slow down but their business expanded to overseas, especially China. So more victims from overseas. Meanwhile, the Company leaders or top earners will encourage their members not to talk bad about the Company or say anything negative if they want their money back. More months passed, and Malaysia has no more new members joining them. Losing confidence, some members started to ask for their products(afterall, better than nothing). Obviously, Dato Yip will not want to give any products, if possible. So he must come up with a new trick. The new trick is using development projects, used numerous times by various scams in the past, most widely known is James Phang's Sunshine Empire. These few days, The Company call in all their local and overseas members and prospects to announce a development plan. They announced they have a few hundred acres of land in Nilai to be developed in many bungalows. Members are offered to purchase first at a special price using their "stock-value" and "bonus points value"(owed by the Company) as down payment. If those points are not enough, they can top up with some cash. How smart, not only the Company don't have to give any stock or money owing to members, they can trick their members to pay more now. In order to make it more realistic to their members, many developers, designers, advertisers are also invited in for "show" into this "set-up". Hopefully, these people will also ended up paying them to join their scheme because they all hope to get the job. Throughout the whole meeting today, not a single document is shown to prove that there is such a project. This incident showed 2 of the common tricks used by many such scam business, which I call the "future plan" and "set-up" meeting tricks. |
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Feb 2 2010, 01:13 PM
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But i saw this bunch of people still like so proud driving their Beemer in puchong. They feel very successful of themselves. ACtually i just waiting for the shop to CLOSE one day... |
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Feb 2 2010, 01:19 PM
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the thing is that they got famous artists like Simon Yam as ambassador
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Feb 4 2010, 10:28 AM
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anybody interested to sell your easy pha-max cc point? i am willing to absorb it. term and condition apply. you can PM me if interested
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Mar 3 2010, 10:25 PM
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Frankly, i do not see easy pha-max a scam. To be in the business, do your own homework and have the business attitude. MLM concept or traditional biz are the same but difference in point of view only.
Learn all you can learn about business and study all book about mlm and find your answer there, if you cannot find it, is not your time yet. Don't listen to others, no one really care on you except you yourself. I join easy pha-max because i do my own research based on the real information i get from their company report in Bursa and decide. I feel confident on their product like wheetgrass and insupro will not dissapear from the market because market needs its. I believed malaysia really need biotech company to succeed internationally to give malaysia some edge after our petroleum is drying up. We are good at agriculture and we need to use what we are good at to help malaysian. If malaysian does not know how to use biotech products to be their biz, they will not succeed far, just like USA, they use science tech to make money. Japan use engine and electrical tech to make money. This is general part of the country economy. If all malaysian can help each other many country can believed in our biotech products. After all no one likes to die early. At present, i can only see Easy Pha-max have this opportunity for us and for themself. Let the world see that the only hope to live long is to take natural supplements that is using biotech. And to get this product in good quality, you can only get it from Easy pha-max. Easy phamax is going to be top in internet for herbs in HEWO herbal search engine. it is also going to last for very very long. So why, we don't see this things to judge the company, instead comparing all the past bad things done by others? I really not understanding what is in the mind of the negative person. I write now but i am not even making any money yet but i will not give up for sure on this opportunity for the sake of malaysia success and for my health benefits and for my income benefits as well. I will want to promote easy pha-max in other countries as well one day for Malaysian Boleh spirits. Anyone who wish to join my believed can pm me, i do not see any failure in doing it, i can share my indepth on how to go with it and reach my goals in easy pha-max. I can share all the step one needs to take to achieved it. Many may say is hard but i do not see any other biz is much easy than this.. too. Since we need time to succeed, why not start with the one that is not going to fails us if we continue doing it without setting any targets. My writing is not good but not in the way i think is weak. |
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Mar 6 2010, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE(chatwarrior @ Mar 6 2010, 11:43 PM) All other MLM scams also said the same, "Those who don't listen to them will not get the opportunity". yes, i agreed. do not get greedy and thought if u did investment, n lost this round, dun b afraid, do another round...this means, your greed eats you and for sure in this case, you will even lost more...REMEMBER this proverb: "you MAY get SOME return if you invest, but you will definitely don't lose any money if you get don't involved". 2nd one: "IF you can get some return, it means you have victimise some friends, which means you still lose image and reputation". |
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Jun 2 2010, 11:49 AM
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i think its jz based on personal point of view, no use to argue about Easy Phamax wether it's a scam or golden opportunity.
People do hv their rights to do watever they wanted to. For the people who invest, they choose to believe For the people who don't, they choose not to believe Jz don't simply claim the company as a scam or MLM, unless u hv strong evidence to show here. |
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Jun 5 2010, 02:10 PM
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Well after reading through all the info here about the pros and cons. I have a few questions that may be someone can answer with proof of course.
1. When i look into the annual report of ins bioscience, it seems like the annual report on 2009 from 2008 seems to be in deficit in terms of profit wise. Will the company be ok? 2. The products are good but so far most of them are not labeled easy pha max but the alliance company's product. So it means that there are lot more competitive that the expected ones right? 3. If the company still continue to spend around 14 million in ads and another 20 million at other expenses. Will the company be able to have enough cash fluidity and maintain the cash flow? Hope to have some replies with answers and proofs as well. Thank you.. Added on June 5, 2010, 8:22 pm Well after reading through all the info here about the pros and cons. I have a few questions that may be someone can answer with proof of course. 1. When i look into the annual report of ins bioscience, it seems like the annual report on 2009 from 2008 seems to be in deficit in terms of profit wise. Will the company be ok? 2. The products are good but so far most of them are not labeled easy pha max but the alliance company's product. So it means that there are lot more competitive that the expected ones right? 3. If the company still continue to spend around 14 million in ads and another 20 million at other expenses. Will the company be able to have enough cash fluidity and maintain the cash flow? Hope to have some replies with answers and proofs as well. Thank you.. Added on June 5, 2010, 8:23 pm Well after reading through all the info here about the pros and cons. I have a few questions that may be someone can answer with proof of course. 1. When i look into the annual report of ins bioscience, it seems like the annual report on 2009 from 2008 seems to be in deficit in terms of profit wise. Will the company be ok? 2. The products are good but so far most of them are not labeled easy pha max but the alliance company's product. So it means that there are lot more competitive that the expected ones right? 3. If the company still continue to spend around 14 million in ads and another 20 million at other expenses. Will the company be able to have enough cash fluidity and maintain the cash flow? Hope to have some replies with answers and proofs as well. Thank you.. This post has been edited by johnnyyaap: Jun 5 2010, 08:23 PM |
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Oct 11 2010, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(johnnyyaap @ Jun 5 2010, 03:10 PM) Well after reading through all the info here about the pros and cons. I have a few questions that may be someone can answer with proof of course. 1.this is because of economic crysis at the year 2008 and malaysia is still can't return back to its normal state at the year 2009, that's why most of the malaysia brand company is deficit. the company is surely ok by now, and i heard that recently they having a new estate project at nilai which will complete within 10 years( inside the estate include hotel, bungalow, condominium, sport central and shorping complex ) .this company had extend his business to more than 10 countries within just few years . On the other hands this company is now one of the leader in biotechnology and it's also the leaderof the wheatgrass .1. When i look into the annual report of ins bioscience, it seems like the annual report on 2009 from 2008 seems to be in deficit in terms of profit wise. Will the company be ok? 2. The products are good but so far most of them are not labeled easy pha max but the alliance company's product. So it means that there are lot more competitive that the expected ones right? 3. If the company still continue to spend around 14 million in ads and another 20 million at other expenses. Will the company be able to have enough cash fluidity and maintain the cash flow? Hope to have some replies with answers and proofs as well. Thank you.. 2.i think you had misunderstood of the INSbioscience, easy pha-max and the SAP company. INS bioscience is the company that (R&D) research and produce new product and distribute to easy phamax, then easy phamax will label its brand name and sell to the market. while SAP is strategic alliance partner company, which mean a company who partnership with easy pha-max( example : gintel, IKO , KHIND and even more which more than 120 SAP company). 3. because this is still not a very new nor a very old company, so lots of people still didt know anything about this company yet, that why dato yip spen about average 10mil each year for the ads to just advertise the company brand without product. the profit of this company earn is far more than you imagine. :cool: regarding to all of the above statement, pls don't believe in any person in this forum include me but except you, if you want any proofs or fact, you may just go to the company personally , they will show you all of it. God bless |
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Oct 13 2010, 05:31 PM
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very similar to Steven Tea Garden tactic, asking ppl to pay 9k upfront and you get 9000 point which equal to rm9k food point where u can spend in their restaurant. whats your job?? ask more ppls join so their pay $$, and you earn comm from it.
a common tactic is to make you feel you don't lose money since the money u invest convert to food point , the worst case is you consume all the rm9k by makan in their restaurant wanna be mamak stall, eat till u die roti canai. so where is the Steven Tea Garden now? it appear in the news, i think most ppls know about it. i think some ppl did earn some money from their downline, but most of the ppls losing hell lot money when it close down. Good luck ppls! |
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Nov 12 2010, 04:00 PM
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the products are good. i'm one of the nutritionists working in that company. can ask me for details.
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Jun 2 2011, 06:47 PM
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From what i have observed, i BBBEEELIEVE their products are not so good afterall.. Another marketing gimmick / strategy by this company.
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Nov 13 2012, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(billylch @ Dec 23 2009, 03:01 PM) if you feel statify your current salary and you won't doing yor own business in future, then u better dun grap any oppotunity that occur infront of u.... today quite free to dig up some old threads and find tis:why? if you going to open a shop or something like boutique for your wife/girl friend... what u have to do? 1st thing....$$$$ not RM7500 but maybe RM75000 or at least RM50k n above for renovation, advertisement and promotion fees, purchase stock, raw material or equipments n etc....... then u start ur own business....... can you guarantee you can earn back your RM50K or RM75K? and when ?after a month? can you guarantee 1st day u can make RM 1000 sales? you have many friends and networking to bring more sales for u? dun forget no matter how much u make, u still have to pay salary and rental monthly..... not a small money ya.... I am now easy pha-max MEP partners, and i only use 2 weeks to return of investment (RM7500), some more i only joined 2 months i already hit the jackpot bonus RM30K..... how much i invested? only RM7.5k.... n i got net profit RM30K within 2mths...... n i no need pay for staff salary and monthly rental too..... i don't know y u all keep talking this is not work and very hard to earn money..... but for me, i earned RM30K already..... hahah it is up to u alll...... of coz..... how much ur boss make/mth and hw much he paid out for all staff? ... Succeesors Create Way to Success Losers Create Reason i recalled years back when an apek told me exact same thingy i was helping in an engineering company family business own by my father & uncles, one afternoon an apek drop into office claim to be my uncle fren, and tat time nobody around lunch break... so we chit chat talking and he start telling me arrr how much you can earn arrr,,,,how much ur boss earn arrr.....how stupid to spent ur life earn $$$ for others arrr.....things like tat. now arr golden oppoturnity..... low capital high return lo.... easi to do..... sky is the limit....onli loser bo hood will ignore.....no guts no glory........ after awhile my uncle call back ask me bring him to stockyard (our office and stockyard diff place), so i bring him, and he saw i drive a toyota harrier, then he started again... ur boss arr purposely give u a better car to keep u work for him,,,,,boss earn alot he giv u little.....u work here enslave ur live lo...onli tis mlm caring lo....giving fair return..... so last2 we arrived and my uncle introduce me to tis apek say im younger generation successor to tis family biz now im one of incoming director....... so the apek still can senyum2 say good arr good arr young and capable liao....if join this mlm.....now earn 10k....later can earn 200k lo with ur networks.... (btw, my salary is damn small nia even today, onli hope year end profit from company) after apek gone i tell my uncle that apek cucuk him all the way kiam siap boss veri evil.... my uncle say arr mlm pipu is like tat la what u expect.... so this billylch earning how much dy today? 30k? 300k? xD if earn 30k also better than me la congratz borrow his words above : succeesor create way to success, losers create reason.... arr i like this phrase |
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Nov 13 2012, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(botlife @ Nov 13 2012, 12:11 PM) today quite free to dig up some old threads and find tis: Is easy-phamax dead already ? Never heard it recently. The boss is the famous "one-eye see clearly" businessman right ? i recalled years back when an apek told me exact same thingy i was helping in an engineering company family business own by my father & uncles, one afternoon an apek drop into office claim to be my uncle fren, and tat time nobody around lunch break... so we chit chat talking and he start telling me arrr how much you can earn arrr,,,,how much ur boss earn arrr.....how stupid to spent ur life earn $$$ for others arrr.....things like tat. now arr golden oppoturnity..... low capital high return lo.... easi to do..... sky is the limit....onli loser bo hood will ignore.....no guts no glory........ after awhile my uncle call back ask me bring him to stockyard (our office and stockyard diff place), so i bring him, and he saw i drive a toyota harrier, then he started again... ur boss arr purposely give u a better car to keep u work for him,,,,,boss earn alot he giv u little.....u work here enslave ur live lo...onli tis mlm caring lo....giving fair return..... so last2 we arrived and my uncle introduce me to tis apek say im younger generation successor to tis family biz now im one of incoming director....... so the apek still can senyum2 say good arr good arr young and capable liao....if join this mlm.....now earn 10k....later can earn 200k lo with ur networks.... (btw, my salary is damn small nia even today, onli hope year end profit from company) after apek gone i tell my uncle that apek cucuk him all the way kiam siap boss veri evil.... my uncle say arr mlm pipu is like tat la what u expect.... so this billylch earning how much dy today? 30k? 300k? xD if earn 30k also better than me la congratz borrow his words above : succeesor create way to success, losers create reason.... arr i like this phrase |
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Nov 13 2012, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Nov 12 2012, 05:06 PM) Is easy-phamax dead already ? Never heard it recently. The boss is the famous "one-eye see clearly" businessman right ? i dunno worri cant recall the apek's kompeni name dy imo something like two bird red color the logo i onli remember he keep asking me buy a gel to prevent botak saying arr now young time got hair must jaga else later loss hair botak la ur work veri dirty environment...... |
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Nov 13 2012, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(botlife @ Nov 13 2012, 01:21 PM) i dunno worr Their website still operating so I guess still alive. But definitely not like last time spend a lot on advertising i cant recall the apek's kompeni name dy imo something like two bird red color the logo i onli remember he keep asking me buy a gel to prevent botak saying arr now young time got hair must jaga else later loss hair botak la ur work veri dirty environment...... Just another MLM... |
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May 20 2013, 02:52 PM
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Just in case any one is still reading this forum, latest news on Easy Pha-Max and its holding company from the KLSE website http://www.klse.info/companies/announcemen...5e0d1d716d5c729
"Type : Announcement Subject : MATERIAL LITIGATION Description : INS BIOSCIENCE BERHAD (“INSBIO” or “the Company”) MATERIAL LITIGATION LOS ANGELES SUPERIOR COURT CASE NO. SC 111260 PLAINTIFFS 1) CHRISTIAN COFFINET 2) FRANK ANNENBERG vs DEFENDANTS 1) INS USA INC 2) INS HOLDINGS BHD 3) INS BIOSCIENCE BHD 4) DATUK DAVID YEAT SEW CHUONG 5) WONG SENG TONG 6) EDWARD LING 7) OLA MADSEN 8) SCOTT B. GILES 9) CARMELITA REYES 10) MARISSA CRIS GINES The Board of Directors of INSBIO (“the Board”) wishes to announce that the Company is involved in a civil suit filed by Christian Coffinet (“Coffinet”) and Frank Annenberg (collectively “the Plaintiffs”) on 28.1.2011 against INSBIO, Datuk Yeat Sew Chuong, Wong Seng Tong and 7 other Defendants (collectively “the Defendants”) bearing Case No. SC 111260 in Los Angeles Superior Court, State of California, United States of America. Announcement Details/Table Section : The Company had on 14 February 2012 received a letter from the Plaintiffs’ solicitors, Law Offices of Katherine R. Cohan, APLC together with:- 1. Summons (Amended Complaint) dated 01.02.2012; 2. Summons dated 28.01.2011; 3. Civil Case Cover Sheet dated 28.01.2011; 4. Civil Case Cover Sheet Addendum and Statement of Location dated 28.01.2011; 5. First Amended Complaint dated 31.01.2012; 6. Notice of Ruling (Case Management Conference) dated 15.11.2011; (collectively, “the Cause Papers”). Events leading to the civil suit as pleaded by the Plaintiffs are summarized as follows: a) The Plaintiff, Coffinet is an individual who had participated in the “INS USA Distribution Centers Programme (DC)” / “INS USA Easy Pha-max Centers Programme (EC)” on INS USA’s standard terms and conditions. INSBIO was supplying the products to INS USA via The Origin Foods Sdn Bhd, one of INSBIO’s subsidiaries. . b) As pleaded by the Plaintiffs in the Summons, Coffinet joined Mega Inc as an independent distributor in January 2006. The Plaintiffs further alleged that throughout January 2006 until approximately August 2006, INS USA Inc (“INS USA”), INS Holdings Bhd and the Company assumed the assets of Mega Inc and conducted the business under the name of “Mega Inc” and was selling the products of Mega Inc which were essentially health-care products, supplements and so on. On or around August 2007, INS USA, INS Holdings and INS Bioscience ceased using the name of “Mega Inc” and conducted business from that point on under the name of “INS USA Inc”. c) Coffinet further alleged that in reliance on the representation of the Defendants or their representatives, he had purchased one (1) Distribution Centre and forty (40) Easy Pha-Max Centers upon the terms and conditions set out in the Distribution Center Agreement and Easy Pha-Max Center Agreements executed between INS USA and Coffinet (collectively “the Agreements”). d) Coffinet also alleged that the Defendants had failed to fulfil their duties and obligations as set out in the Agreements and failed to pay the commission and return on investment as represented by the Defendants or their representatives to Coffinet. e) The Plaintiffs’ causes of action as set out in the Summons are intentional misrepresentation (fraud), negligent misrepresentation, breach of contract, breach of implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing, breach of non-compete covenant, promissory estoppels, unjust enrichment, intentional interference with prospective economic advantage, negligent interference with prospective economic advantage, Unfair Competition under Business and Professions Code Section 17200 [Unfair Business Act or Practice] and False Advertising under Business and Professions Code Section 17500. f) The relief sought against the Defendants as pleaded in the Summons vis- -vis each of the cause of action include amongst others, general and compensatory damages in excess of US$963,000, prejudgment interest, consequential damages, emotional damages, punitive damages, monetary damages, loss of profit, economic damages and restitution respectively. The estimated potential liability as evidenced in the Plaintiff’s request for entry of default is at US$1,101,710.00. INSBIO has engaged Messrs REYES LAW GROUP (“RLG”) of Wilshire Financial Towers, 3600 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 820, Los Angeles, CA 90010 to defend the suit for and on behalf of INSBIO, its directors, Datuk Yeat Sew Chuong and Wong Seng Tong and INS Holdings. INSBIO and its directors, Datuk Yeat Sew Chuong and Wong Seng Tong have represented to RLG that the INSBIO does not have any contractual relationship with INS USA nor the Plaintiffs and INSBIO does not have common directors and shareholders with INS USA and as such a proposed step being contemplated is to file a motion for summary judgment at some point shortly before trial, which if successful will get the Plaintiffs’ case dismissed. RLG is of the opinion that the Plaintiffs’ legal position has no real merit and it will be easy enough to prove that INSBIO’s version of facts is correct. If there is any liability of INS USA to be proven, it shouldn’t create any liability for INSBIO as they have no legal relationship to each other. INSBIO does not expect to incur any losses arising from the suit and the suit will not have any effect on INSBIO’s financial position and operation. As at to-date, the Court has fixed the suit for continued trial on 25.2.2013. Further announcement on development of the above matter will be made to Bursa Malaysia Securities Berhad in due course. This announcement is dated 30 October 2012." |
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May 22 2013, 03:28 PM
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This not ady close Liao meh?
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May 31 2013, 10:41 PM
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