SAP related positions are the most overpaid in IT industry. So often, SAP consultants themselves do not even know what they are doing.

Guess this is the effect of oversaturation of SAP people. In IT less is more. People should start looking at Oracle ERP.

bro, thanks for sharing. finally got my answer !!!!!!!

ur friend have high offer is it?

i want to go trainning nowwwwwwwwwwwwww

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Added on June 29, 2009, 11:36 amcastelloz

i heard there is few modules, which one is the hottest in market ya. any different german SAP and malaysia SAP?
german SAP and malaysia SAP?

how many ppl are affording to talk about passion when you have a few commitments

will u work for a job you most enjoy with but the pay sucks, yes, if you,
1. come from a affluent family
2. naively idealist

just my 2 cents.

Hi guys, I've a few questions about SW development for SAP.

1) I see on SAP's site that the SAP Developer Studio is only sold in US and Germany. If that's the case, how does the Malaysian companies develop or perform integration for SAP? (though I notice many of them are US-based companies in Malaysia, but how about those that aren't?)

2) Based on what I've googled and understand, instead of ABAP we can write codes in J2EE. Must it be developed using SAP's development studio? (meaning have to pay their license). Or is there an API that one can use to 'talk' to SAP Netweaver or XI.

Thanks in advance!

1. SAP developer studio is availaible to SAP's customer. Download it at service.sap.com.
2. SAP developer studio is used to write/develop java programs. To be specific, J2EE, SAP EP compliant programs. Prerequisite for this is, the SAP system must have the java stack installed. and also SAP enterprise portal.

FREE?

they quote me below fee after i called them this morning

SAP Netweaver 2004-Application Development Focus ABAP ( RM 12,800 + RM 2,000 – exam)
SCM - Order Fulfillment ( sales distribution) (RM 12,800 + RM 1,800)
SCM – ERP Procument ( RM 13 , 418 + RM 1,800)
SCM – Manufacturing ( Production Planning) (RM 18,900 + RM 1,800)
WINHRE – Human Resource ( RM 13, 418 + RM 1,800)
WINFIE ( Workshop – Financial Accounting) (RM 13,418  + RM 1800)
Financials – Management Accounting ( RM 13, 418  + RM 1800)

any idea?

re u under that sponsorship before?
so it is only for freshgrad to apply huh? what criteria do they need ?

I from engineering line, can I apply too?

ya... how i wish i can get into functional... i'm fresh ABAPer and it's kinda difficult to find a job as most of the companies require at least 2 years experience... any idea of how to get into functional without paying highly cost of 30k?

it has begun liao.

few more yrs dun expect ur fat salaries for SAP anymore.

hahaha, shrink liao lor... 

i wonder whether it would end up like oracle.... 

i am back guysssssss

SAP

nothing wrong wat myter said.

99% SAP jobs require SAP knowledge.

Sorry to bother again, but when u say end user does it mean that the company uses SAP as the tool for their consultation in asset management system?As im quite sure they provide consultancy in engineering related issues especially asset management.I try googling what is SAPs all about but i dont seem to understand whether a mechanical engineer majoring in petroleum has anything to do in this business.Mind you that the company consultation primarily focus on oil and gas company.Im lost yeah.

Well thats more like it i think..hope this thread will help more people like me with more people like you cares to share their experience and thoughts...thanks again!

Cheezy .. you were talking more about manufacturing/production/sales .. while in O&G, most of them don't have these ... they're more on Plant Maintenance and stuff for the upstream.. no Kanban, no IM .. on downstream, they're more on IS-Oil/SD ..  BUT... my O&G experience all rusted already .. so .. don't depend on what I said

so, what u mean is that companies like accenture and axxon willingly to hire programmers as SAPer?

Yup, many people 'want' to join .. but job wise .. you'll get bored when you're benched more than a couple of months

who have a list of SAP users (companies that use SAP) in Malaysia?

Hi All. Actually i have interest in SAP after have working in IBM about 3 years. My job scope in IBM is customer fulfillment but i have using SAP R/3 in sap system to proceed my working. I need to run report for every daily and monthly in SAP. Therefore, i interest in this systems.

I know IBM have IBM consulting but no chance to join this team due they are require high expectation. I have apply those job related the SAP but never get any offer. It might be my qualification didnt match with company requirement? Because i just get Diploma in IT. Current i working in EDS company as helpdeskm. However, i really hope can get a best opportunity for myself involve in SAP environment. If have any opportunity for me, i hope can get SAP job. Even start from basic level...

cheezball .. your mailbox is full Anyway .. don't know much about this German outfit..  probably you could ask those who're leaving HCL-Axon

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Added on October 12, 2009, 10:13 am

Ouch .. from oriental to south asia culture? .. 

Smoke comes out of ears of cigarette company's staff
Christine Chan
Oct 12, 09
8:21pm

Some 200 disgruntled employees of British American Tobacco (BAT) staged a noisy protest outside their factory along Jalan Universiti in Petaling Jaya today. They are picketing against the retrenchment of 48 colleagues under a voluntary separation scheme (VSS).

According to the picket's organiser, British American Tobacco Employees Union (BATEU) general secretary J Ganesan Murty, the workers were protesting against the company's discriminatory practise of offering the VSS only to union members.

He also claimed that the VSS quantum offered this year was much less than the one two years ago. He said that the VSS offered was only based on 75 percent of an employee's projected future earnings rather than on the number of years of service by the employees.

http://malaysiakini.com/news/114891

Hi, really good to find someone who knows something.

OK, let me try to clarify this & hopefully everyone gets it. As you rightly mentioned, there are more projects\roles. With more projects, Malaysian SAP eco system cannot cope. There is a business demand & business simply cannot stop. So, logically some of the work got to be shift around between Malaysia & India. If jobs are being taken away, how come there are so few people on the bench in Axon while others are downsizing & closing ? Jobs are not being taken away but shift around due to business demand. We are not being REPLACED ! Think again, you may be able to see the light. Axon is the only company in M'sia you can get the diverse technology exposure due to diverse projects they do from different region. Axon will remain to run as it is though the owner maybe HCL.

In general, Malaysia is still very short of IT professionals. Malaysians also tends shy away from technical work. You can walk into any shared service centers in Cyberjaya & you are bound to find people from different countries working here. Have you asked yourself why ? As offshore work is usually more technical in nature, Malaysia is not churning enough people who are passionate & willing to take on these type of work. If we do not have this issue, companies do not have to recruit out of M'sia. Mind you, it's definitely more expensive taking a non MY than our local. SAP consultant is not cheap & on top of that, companies have to pay flights, additional perks to attract them here.  So, it's not cheap labour.
Don't get irritated by the sight of another culture. If we want to get Malaysia up to compete, show that we can do better rather than running away. Indian is miles ahead but we are catching up. Learn from them. Malaysia will always have a spot for offshoring due to know quality of work we produce. However, once demand increase, Malaysia cannot cope. Hence what I described above happens again.

I am not from Axon nor in SAP field. However, I have been involved in the IT oursourcing/offshore field for a while. Hence I understand the situation we are in. My guess is most of you here are in the early years of your carreer. You are our hope & let's show that we can do it.

Hope this helps.

Hi,

Just to let you up front and frankly: Your general understanding of this industry is bollocks. Domino effects only happened when component industries that uses SAP decided to cut down their expenditure or investment into SAP. Even that, it will be wide effect. No matter whether foreigner or local, will be affected.
The cost of foreigner salary is equivalent of the local + all the other cost as Anne1818 has mentioned. It is not cheap and easy to get all these done.
SAP Industry jobs is very much a supply and demand industry. At the moment, the momentum is moving to offshore projects where most work is done here locally and project is implemented elsewhere. It is also not cheap to place on-shore team members at the country where the project is located. The company will need to pay from work permit to etc on top of paying the salary of the consultants (base + per diem).

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Added on October 19, 2009, 9:55 amAnother thing I want to add for those who wanted to do SAP for their career:

For those who been sending me private message for ways to enter SAP industry, please check the beginning of the thread and read it thru.

SAP industry there is basically 2 ways of entering. No other way unless you are top students (1% in your university). 

1. Take SAP Academic Certification (about RM 30,000.00) and a lot of luck.

2. Look for MNC using SAP. Apply and work there for few years in SAP Support or in-house SAP development.
For those who is lucky to get into consulting firm, that is different story (this is the 1% in the industry as most got into from the 2 ways above).