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post Dec 11 2025, 10:25 AM, updated 2d ago

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PMX jangan iktiraf UEC - Akmal 'sailang' desakan DAP

Sejak kekalahan besar dalam pilihan raya negeri Sabah, DAP berikrar untuk menggerakkan agenda reformasi, dengan salah satu isu utamanya ialah pengiktirafan Sijil Peperiksaan Bersepadu (UEC).
Pun begitu, Ketua Pemuda Umno Dr Akmal Saleh dengan pantas menyekat usaha DAP dengan menyasarkan kecamannya kepada Timbalan Pengerusi DAP Nga Kor Ming, menegaskan pihaknya tidak akan berkompromi.
Ini susulan kenyataan Nga, yang juga menteri pembangunan kerajaan tempatan dan perumahan, bahawa DAP akan meminta pertemuan dengan Perdana Menteri Anwar Ibrahim untuk membincangkan pengiktirafan UEC.

"Kepada PMX saya rayu sangat janganlah kita nak mengiktiraf UEC ni," tegas ketua Pemuda Umno itu.
Dalam hantaran di Facebook, ketua Pemuda Umno itu berkata sebagai menteri, Nga sepatutnya sudah maklum mengenai dasar pendidikan negara.

“Ada tiga (prinsip) jer. Pertama, mesti gunakan bahasa pengantar utama Bahasa Malaysia; kedua, mesti menggunakan kurikulum yang sama iaitu kurikulum kebangsaan.
"Kebangsaan ini negara kitalah; dan ketiga, adalah mesti menduduki peperiksaan yang sama.
"Untuk makluman YB Nga Kor Ming, sama ada kamu tahu atau buat tak tahu UEC ni tidak langsung menepati tiga syarat... macam mana kita nak iktiraf," soalnya.

Akmal berkata jika Nga memperjuangkan hak pendidikan untuk pihak lain, perlu difahami bahawa UEC sudah pun diberi ruang yang besar.
Dia mengimbas perkembangan dasar mengenai UEC, bermula dengan Dr Mahathir Mohamad — ketika itu menteri pelajaran pada 1975 — yang membenarkan peperiksaan tersebut diteruskan.
Akmal juga menyebut bahawa pada 2004, ketika pentadbiran bekas perdana menteri Najib Razak, institusi pengajian tinggi swasta dibenarkan menerima pemegang UEC.

Selain itu, sejak 2010, UEC diterima bagi kemasukan ke program Ijazah Sarjana Muda Pendidikan (Bahasa Cina) di Institut Pendidikan Guru bawah Kementerian Pendidikan dan sejak 2019, untuk melanjutkan pengajian dalam bidang undang-undang.
Menegur Nga secara langsung, Akmal menyoal: “Saya nak tanya YB menteri, kamu tahu tak dalam dunia ni Malaysia saja yang iktiraf, ada sistem pendidikan vernakular? Tak payah pergi tempat lainlah, kau pergi, adakah Singapura iktiraf sistem lain daripada sistem kebangsaan mereka. Jawapannya tidak.”
Semalam, Malaysiakini melaporkan bahawa kenyataan terbaru Nga mengenai UEC kembali mencetuskan kecaman terhadap DAP, dengan dakwaan parti itu sedang cuba melemahkan orang Melayu.

Kenyataannya itu diterjemahkan di media sosial Melayu sebagai tekanan DAP terhadap Anwar, sekali gus membangkitkan reaksi negatif.
Setiausaha Agung DAP Anthony Loke kemudian cuba memperbetulkan naratif mengenai UEC sebagai sesuatu yang melengkapi usaha memartabatkan bahasa Melayu.
Dalam wawancara dengan saluran YouTube berbahasa Cina “The Keywords”, Loke berkata kerajaan akan memperkenalkan dasar baru dalam tempoh enam bulan untuk memperkukuh semua bahasa, termasuk melibatkan pengiktirafan UEC.

Penyokong Cina DAP pula mendesak agar pengiktirafan UEC dibuat “tanpa sebarang syarat tambahan”.

Manifesto PH bagi pilihan raya umum 2018 berjanji bahawa gabungan itu “akan mengiktiraf sijil UEC untuk kemasukan ke institusi pengajian tinggi awam (IPTA) dengan syarat pemohon mendapat kredit Bahasa Malaysia di peringkat SPM. Untuk tujuan ini, sijil UEC akan dinilai setara dengan kelayakan umum sedia ada untuk kemasukan ke IPTA.”
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Takut apa UEC?


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This uec issue always bring up when got something to hide la
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post Dec 11 2025, 10:33 AM

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Uec pun ada subjek bahasa malaysia la.. bongong
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post Dec 11 2025, 10:34 AM

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But those study uec usually wants to further study at Taiwan la, but when their marks too poor and Taiwan reject, they end up no where to go lel
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QUOTE(empstar2 @ Dec 11 2025, 10:34 AM)

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oh atuk yg pgg telur PMX rupanya
thx anjkom beritahu
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post Dec 11 2025, 10:36 AM

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STPM pun susah nak dapat tempat kat IPTA, let alone UEC (if being recognised).

Also, those who pergi CIS, why are they aiming IPTA??? Tak paham 🤦‍♀️
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Dec 11 2025, 11:34 AM)
But those study uec usually wants to further study at Taiwan la, but when their marks too poor and Taiwan reject, they end up no where to go lel
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Namewee can be a role model for them and provide career counseling session.
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Dec 11 2025, 10:34 AM)
But those study uec usually wants to further study at Taiwan la, but when their marks too poor and Taiwan reject, they end up no where to go lel
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They can go to IPTS ma esp New Era those
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QUOTE(cheryee @ Dec 11 2025, 10:36 AM)
STPM pun susah nak dapat tempat kat IPTA, let alone UEC (if being recognised).

Also, those who pergi CIS, why are they aiming IPTA??? Tak paham 🤦‍♀️
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Already ask but they still pusing no give direct answer. Even UEC grad also say they no aim local U.

They just want to fight for the sake of maruah. Ketuanan type c vs m perhaps.

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post Dec 11 2025, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(cheryee @ Dec 11 2025, 10:37 AM)
They can go to IPTS ma esp New Era those
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No money. Not all Chinese is M40 T20. Most are B40 or worse despite what the gov wants others to believe.
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Dec 11 2025, 10:30 AM)
Takut apa UEC?
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UEC = 8481 ?
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Even after recognize UEC... u think got place for the candidate in local U meh? LPPL... usually take UEC all is rich rich go oversea study ma rite?
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Go sarawak to study can?
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now we know BN is the one holding UEC for so long
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post Dec 11 2025, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(cheryee @ Dec 11 2025, 10:36 AM)
STPM pun susah nak dapat tempat kat IPTA, let alone UEC (if being recognised).

Also, those who pergi CIS, why are they aiming IPTA??? Tak paham 🤦‍♀️
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This.
I too tak faham. You take uec/ cis you follow that pathway la

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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Dec 11 2025, 10:34 AM)
But those study uec usually wants to further study at Taiwan la, but when their marks too poor and Taiwan reject, they end up no where to go lel
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No, that was quite an archaic impression that those who took UEC for the sole reason of furthering their study in Taiwan. Perhaps Namewee’s notoriety has contributed to such general perception.

QUOTE(cheryee @ Dec 11 2025, 10:36 AM)
STPM pun susah nak dapat tempat kat IPTA, let alone UEC (if being recognised).

Also, those who pergi CIS, why are they aiming IPTA??? Tak paham 🤦‍♀️
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Quite a number of UEC students actually opt to take SPM in their 5th year. So yes, some do still aim for IPTA. You do realise that not everyone who studies in CIS are T20s right?

QUOTE(fufu_80 @ Dec 11 2025, 11:05 AM)
Even after recognize UEC... u think got place for the candidate in local U meh? LPPL... usually take UEC all is rich rich go oversea study ma rite?
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Not everyone in CIS are T20s.

QUOTE(jojolicia @ Dec 11 2025, 11:08 AM)
This.
I too tak faham. You take uec/ cis you follow that pathway la
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Refer to my reply to cheryee above.
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Dec 11 2025, 10:59 AM)
No money. Not all Chinese is M40 T20. Most are B40 or worse despite what the gov wants others to believe.
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pinjam ptptn, masuk utar ktar sudah. jangan banyak citer. bumi ini milik siapa?
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With this statement coming from a shit stirrer, I think PMX would be wise enough to ignore.
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QUOTE(talexeh @ Dec 11 2025, 11:15 AM)
No, that was quite an archaic impression that those who took UEC for the sole reason of furthering their study in Taiwan. Perhaps Namewee’s notoriety has contributed to such general perception.
Quite a number of UEC students actually opt to take SPM in their 5th year. So yes, some do still aim for IPTA. You do realise that not everyone who studies in CIS are T20s right?
Not everyone in CIS are T20s.
Refer to my reply to cheryee above.
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i rasa this is poor planning.. study half way then opt back to SPM... if wan to stick to SPM/STPM... shoudl start from the begininng.... my 2 cent.... cool2.gif
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“Ada tiga (prinsip) jer. Pertama, mesti gunakan bahasa pengantar utama Bahasa Malaysia; kedua, mesti menggunakan kurikulum yang sama iaitu kurikulum kebangsaan.
"Kebangsaan ini negara kitalah; dan ketiga, adalah mesti menduduki peperiksaan yang sama.


the irony. oh mai
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My colleague who took UEC told me that her family send her to private Chinese school because the SMK near her home is popular for gangsterism.

Not everyone who took UEC take it because they want to study overseas. There are others who send their kids over to private Chinese school for various other reasons.

This post has been edited by quireyuyue: Dec 11 2025, 11:48 AM
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TLDR. Please only follow the pathway we set so that we can gatekeep nons from IPTA.
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Dec 11 2025, 10:30 AM)
Takut apa UEC?
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Indirectly recognising that UEC is more superior.
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TLDR. Please only follow the pathway we set so that we can gatekeep nons from IPTA.
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even recognise UEC also, the chance of them going to ipta is nearly 0. it won't impact bumi students in anyway but they want to deny u bcoz they can
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Making jokes again.

Anyone that is raking UEC also takes SPM and follow government curriculum, they just have extra curriculum on top of all those.

With or without UEC, Malaysia education is fuked anyway when preferential treatment is given to matriculation students to fast track their enrollment in university.
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QUOTE(fufu_80 @ Dec 11 2025, 11:40 AM)
i rasa this is poor planning.. study half way then opt back to SPM... if wan to stick to SPM/STPM... shoudl start from the begininng.... my 2 cent....  cool2.gif
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Also because they don't want to go SMK. They want cina education and also free tertiary education.

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Oh now I understand why so many UEC threads suddenly.
Ramainye DAP cytro kat sini. No better job to do? 😁

Chinese school education also cannot help if ownself tak cerdik? 😁
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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Dec 11 2025, 11:52 AM)
Oh now I understand why so many UEC threads suddenly.
Ramainye DAP cytro kat sini. No better job to do? 😁

Chinese school education also cannot help if ownself tak cerdik? 😁
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ownself cerdik that's why b40 majority is your rempit type console.gif
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Pmx better kick out both Umno & Dap. Only then their true colours will show. Enough of these marriage of convenience, nothing really gets done except protecting the corrupt politicians.
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No politician want to enhance STPM status.

I suggest that half of the IPTA intake should be from STPM.

Thus, Chinese school student can take STPM exam for IPTA application.

But sadly, at the moment, almost all IPTA seats are given to matrikulasi.

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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Dec 11 2025, 10:33 AM)
Uec pun ada subjek bahasa malaysia la.. bongong
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Syllabus also same lah. Just have extra only
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QUOTE(dawnreaver @ Dec 11 2025, 11:53 AM)
Tendang UMNO keluar je.
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QUOTE(Kelefeh @ Dec 11 2025, 11:58 AM)
ownself cerdik that's why b40 majority is your rempit type  console.gif
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Keep calling certain type B40. But, you very rich?
Cmon. Look at your posts and responses already know...


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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Dec 11 2025, 12:02 PM)
Umno need DAP more than the other way round
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QUOTE(fufu_80 @ Dec 11 2025, 11:40 AM)
i rasa this is poor planning.. study half way then opt back to SPM... if wan to stick to SPM/STPM... shoudl start from the begininng.... my 2 cent....  cool2.gif
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There are various reasons why some parents enrolled their kids into CIS. In most cases, I would say that the decision comes from the parents & not the students themselves.

While I don't claim to represent all CIS parents, these are the common reasons:

1) Perceived deterioration of quality of education in SMK / SMJK. The abolishment of UPSR & PMR / PT3 gave the impression that students are no longer assessed closely & UASA is not a fair assessment in assigning students to the relevant secondary control schools.

2) The ever-changing policy of DLP where science & math are being taught in English spooked some of the parents. For example, just a year ago, 11 SMJKs in Penang were taken to task for not allocating a class where science & math are taught solely in BM. No parent is going to volunteer to have their kids being allocated that particular class.

3) CIS instills better discipline & some put high emphasis in building noble characteristics not only during schooling hours but also at home. Teen years are when kids can get rebellious & go off track so having someone to reel them in is a welcomed aspect.

4) UEC is perceived to be harder than KBSM. For those in SMK / SMJK, their only route is to take SPM but for UEC students, they have options by the 5th year. having options are always a good thing.

5) Since nons are already at an disadvantage due to the limited quota to enter matrikulasi & how STPM has very limited space allocated in UPU, parents don't how CIS is any different compared to SMK / SMJK. However, in the even that Edumin somehow removed the inequality (fat chance), parents still have 5 years to consider having their kids "return"' to the SPM route.

These are just some of the conversations that I've had with CIS parents throughout the last few years.
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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Dec 11 2025, 12:05 PM)
Keep calling certain type B40. But, you very rich?
Cmon. Look at your posts and responses already know...
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Cmon, look at your posts and responses already know....
own self rempit type b40 but don't want accept the reality
Maruah tak boleh dicabar sebab bumi ni milik sape kan brows.gif

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QUOTE(dawnreaver @ Dec 11 2025, 11:53 AM)
Tendang UMNO keluar je.
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if ada telur
see who is the best telur grappler
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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Dec 11 2025, 12:52 PM)
Oh now I understand why so many UEC threads suddenly.
Ramainye DAP cytro kat sini. No better job to do? 😁

Chinese school education also cannot help if ownself tak cerdik? 😁
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U gila? DAP woso not so pro UEC they play coy two side wonly.

Yinside ruling gomen guai2 no bring this issue up past 3 years nye pun.

To their voters/community make a bit noise ler pretend to fight for UEC…
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satu malaysia, 2 standard , dia dapat lebih, you cover tax. sudah tongkat skrh mau kerusi roda.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 11 2025, 12:23 PM)
U gila? DAP woso not so pro UEC they play coy two side wonly.

Yinside ruling gomen guai2 no bring this issue up past 3 years nye pun.

To their voters/community make a bit noise ler pretend to fight for UEC…
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Walaun, kasi chan sikit boleh ka? They have 6 months to prove they are not eunuches la… Kesian sikit la.
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QUOTE(jackytiong @ Dec 11 2025, 12:24 PM)
satu malaysia, 2 standard , dia dapat lebih, you cover tax. sudah tongkat skrh mau kerusi roda.
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tongkat dan maruah
semua aku pun mau !!!
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 11 2025, 12:23 PM)
U gila? DAP woso not so pro UEC they play coy two side wonly.

Yinside ruling gomen guai2 no bring this issue up past 3 years nye pun.

To their voters/community make a bit noise ler pretend to fight for UEC…
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Wah aneh also see through Dapigs. Hebat.

Again, it's a very very small subset that are vocal that wants this. Tak cukup makan.

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Akmal is breaking dap into pieces, just as planned.







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PMX simp to type M also cannot malay votes

might as well simp to type C for votes

blame type M dont want to support PMX
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 11 2025, 12:23 PM)
U gila? DAP woso not so pro UEC they play coy two side wonly.

Yinside ruling gomen guai2 no bring this issue up past 3 years nye pun.

To their voters/community make a bit noise ler pretend to fight for UEC…
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Ya lor. Ah Loke Or Guan Eng also not from Chinese school pon.
Bole ka diaorg understand the plight of these people.


Insap lar. Kan? 😁


QUOTE(damonlbs @ Dec 11 2025, 12:36 PM)
PMX simp to type M also cannot malay votes

might as well simp to type C for votes

blame type M dont want to support PMX
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Eh?! Can't lar.

Type C no numbers, mcm suicide mission kalo buat mcm tu. 😁


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UEC is a trap for DAP. Much more to lose than gain. Nobody really cares about UEC except some hardcore unkers in some remote new village. It is so low in the list of priorities for the other Chinese. But very easy to be used against them for the other 70% of votes to "prove" DAP and Cina want to turn this into a Chinese country.

They should just drop this from their manifesto.

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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Dec 11 2025, 12:38 PM)
Eh?! Can't lar.

Type C no numbers, mcm suicide mission kalo buat mcm tu. 😁
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he pander so much to type m

still cannot get the votes

till he losing his own support base

might as well just focus on the urban type m or non's votes

got nothing to lose also

going to be 1 term PM anyway


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QUOTE(ze2 @ Dec 11 2025, 12:30 PM)
Akmal is breaking dap into pieces, just as planned.
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umno tactic work so well and you see sabah dap makan telur
This strategy by umno actually kills 2 bird in 1 stone

kills pmx support by non since he kept silence
kill dap because stay silence as well


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what a weapon to use. issit any election coming soon? Melaka?

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QUOTE(Kelefeh @ Dec 11 2025, 12:55 PM)
umno tactic work so well and you see sabah dap makan telur
This strategy by umno actually kills 2 bird in 1 stone

kills pmx support by non since he kept silence
kill dap because stay silence as well
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Akmal is successfully
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LOL, DAP this time is playing mind game, they say they will all out to push for it, and if gomen no recognise, is not their fault, chinese cannot blame them anymore, ball passed to next person already LOL
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Syllabus also same lah. Just have extra only
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Akmal is successfully
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he outperformed his predecessor Jamal

both also "mal" at the end but now Jamal so diam liao why ah?
Despite he recover from stage 4 cancer, a miracle in medical field
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GagalLand can see you no more sus, kam in give a few words about Akmal.

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Dah tak iktiraf kedudukan cina di msia, apatah lagi sijil yg tidak penting macam UEC
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i also think it's strategy umgok lepaskan akmal mengamuk

then umgok get more support from their target, bmx lose support from nons. 2 prong attack. if he can't see it then he deserve to lose next ge
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IGCSE perlu dimansuhkan juga untuk menjaga asas pendidikan negara
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Pendidikan negara currently asas tak berapa kukuh... macam lalang.... cool2.gif

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Let's say if UEC is recognise it will be stiffer competition among type C to enroll to IPT cause there's another channel of students to apply.
It still won't affect the non non. the quota of IPT is still the same but number of applicants increase.
So why non non so kecoh?
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ownself cerdik that's why b40 majority is your rempit type  console.gif
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Let's say if UEC is recognise it will be stiffer competition among type C to enroll to IPT cause there's another channel of students to apply.
It still won't affect the non non. the quota of IPT is still the same but number of applicants increase.
So why non non so kecoh?
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Non non always like to sibuk hal nons wan la. It's their culture to sibuk, even among themselves la
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Let's say if UEC is recognise it will be stiffer competition among type C to enroll to IPT cause there's another channel of students to apply.
It still won't affect the non non. the quota of IPT is still the same but number of applicants increase.
So why non non so kecoh?
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they don't care about enroll since those kecoh non non are mainly b40 who duno shit about education anyway, not really can enroll to Uni also

they just eating all the brainwashed jelly from akumar, kalau iktiraf UEC tanah ni bukan milik kito already
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Actually, Chinese do not like PMX is because of the e invoice, many taxations, and the silence on the J@mal, and PM of Palestine

UEC is not the priority.

Many Chinese also do not understand what is the UEC.

Why DAP think UEC recognition can give benefit to Chinese society?

DAP better help to get other thing which give more benefit to Chinese society.

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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Dec 11 2025, 02:33 PM)
This, really only those Cina bukit rednecks care.

Another thing is many people dunno secondary Chinese vernecular schools smkc exist. Those at new village lagi lah tak ada. So most lowly educated Cina bukit will instead get lead to believe u either go smk study lousy education with malays and your kid later lunch at toilet or u go study uec

Problem is uec not cheap, it's a private school and many these Cina bukit are poor. Worst when their kids say want further study at Taiwan lol.

Those say can choose spm or uec, cmon la, u pay so much d for uec education, then last min change back to spm, a qualification which is cheap cheap one? Of course you they dowan la. U expect the kids to choose? At 17yo kids are still fucking dumb about the real world la
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Many people didn't know the existence of SMJK? How many glasses of ketum have you taken today?

How much is UEC fees per month by the way?

QUOTE(Srbn @ Dec 11 2025, 03:01 PM)
Actually, Chinese do not like PMX is because of the e invoice, many taxations, and the silence on the J@mal, and PM of Palestine

UEC is not the priority.

Many Chinese also do not understand what is the UEC. 

Why the politicians think UEC recognition can help Chinese society?

DAP better help to get other thing which give more benefit to Chine society.
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Because it's in their manifesto before they got into power. Now that Sabah has pressed their panic button so by hook or by crook they have to show the Chinese that they're capable LOL.

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Can someone make me understand why some group want UEC to be recognised?as far as I know half of type C look down on gomen uni and gomen jobs..so I seriously don’t understand..what am I missing?

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QUOTE(Srbn @ Dec 11 2025, 03:01 PM)
Actually, Chinese do not like PMX is because of the e invoice, many taxations, and the silence on the J@mal, and PM of Palestine

UEC is not the priority.

Many Chinese also do not understand what is the UEC. 

Why DAP think UEC recognition can give benefit to Chinese society?

DAP better help to get other thing which give more benefit to Chinese society.
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DAP raise UEC, next PuAS and Akmal will make noise. Then type C see enemy of enemy is my friend they will lov DAP again wub.gif
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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Dec 11 2025, 03:28 PM)
DAP raise UEC, next PuAS and Akmal will make noise. Then type C see enemy of enemy is my friend they will lov DAP again  wub.gif
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Better to enhance the status of STPM and give more resources to STPM.

Let more STPM graduate to have more chance to enter University.

Mostly the poor Chinese have to study STPM to enter U.

The students who take UEC and other foreign exams are all kaya-raya.

Our government do not know that the many STPM students are from poor family.



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Can someone make me understand why some group want UEC to be recognised?as far as I know half of type C look down on gomen uni and gomen jobs..so I seriously don’t understand..what am I missing?
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You're missing the fact that every damn year, there are nons STPM graduates complaining about them being overlooked even when they scored excellent results.
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Better to enhance the status of STPM and give more resources to STPM.

Let more STPM graduate to have more chance to enter University.

Mostly the poor Chinese have to study STPM to enter U.

The students who take UEC and other foreign exams are all kaya-raya.

Our government do not know that the many STPM students are from poor family.
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Rakyat want government to do the correct thing.

Rakyat do not want government have to do something, even the thing is wrong, especially in racial issue.
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QUOTE(cheryee @ Dec 11 2025, 10:36 AM)
STPM pun susah nak dapat tempat kat IPTA, let alone UEC (if being recognised).

Also, those who pergi CIS, why are they aiming IPTA??? Tak paham 🤦‍♀️
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some of those independent school directors have ulterior motives

with recognition, more students will enrol in those independent schools

so, in the end, it's all about $$$

and many of these independent school directors opt to become directors to get contracts with schools (in front champion chinese education, behind everyone's back they are aiming for contracts). Similar like those penunggang agama.

and not i say one ah. Their own relatives said one. Own relatives shared these directors are just money minded only.
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UEC takers doesn't care. They're going to Taiwan. Then on to AU/NZ/New India (aka Canada). Those that plans to stay will take SPM. Recognize or not is non issue at all for them.
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QUOTE(youngblood29us @ Dec 11 2025, 03:24 PM)
Can someone make me understand why some group want UEC to be recognised?as far as I know half of type C look down on gomen uni and gomen jobs..so I seriously don’t understand..what am I missing?
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They not look down


They just can't enter with UEC cert.
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What happens if iktiraf, can find job for spm leavers using uec?
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Dec 11 2025, 11:50 AM)
even recognise UEC also, the chance of them going to ipta is nearly 0. it won't impact bumi students in anyway but they want to deny u bcoz they can
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bantah for political milage,

actually UEC also funny, why need to have UEC?

all about racial and political.


recognize UEC mean what? maybe to join as gov servant, that the only biggest advantages.


Malaysia should copy Singapore. which ban all citizen to study in private, 100% national school.
so all in same level.

rakyat should push national school quality agenda any not UEC or bla bla bla
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anjkom Medusakia pilih yang mana
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U expect lowlife , tak ada tulang belakang to answer? Kek

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Many people didn't know the existence of SMJK? How many glasses of ketum have you taken today?

How much is UEC fees per month by the way?
Because it's in their manifesto before they got into power. Now that Sabah has pressed their panic button so by hook or by crook they have to show the Chinese that they're capable LOL.
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Just because you know, doesn't mean everyone know. You would be surprised many dunno. You think every town has a smkjc? Let me pick for you dumb idiot la, Sungai petani has a lot Chinese do they have smkjc? How about Teluk intan? Jenjarom new village? Sg pelek? Tanjung sepat? Johor Bahru got? So if you idiot don't know what's the reality of really poor uneducated Cina, best you shut the fuck up.

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QUOTE(marvinben @ Dec 11 2025, 04:42 PM)
UEC takers doesn't care. They're going to Taiwan. Then on to AU/NZ/New India (aka Canada). Those that plans to stay will take SPM. Recognize or not is non issue at all for them.
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This exactly, just another political stunt to divert attention away and so many fall for the bait.
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Go sarawak to study can?
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Dec 11 2025, 05:54 PM)
bantah for political milage,

actually UEC also funny, why need to have UEC?

all about racial and political.
recognize UEC mean what? maybe to join as gov servant, that the only biggest advantages.
Malaysia should copy Singapore. which ban all citizen to study in private, 100% national school.
so all in same level.

rakyat should push national school quality agenda any not UEC or bla bla bla
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But u missed the point that Singapore education standardization:

1) Mother tongue exam is compulsory. Even for foreigners except with waiver whereas parents are not from current available mother tongue
2) Singaporean can study international school aka foreign curriculum with waiver
3) its university recognized various pre U
4) multiple education pathway in SG - NA, NT & O level based on individual ability
5) SG national curriculum proven to be top in the world in PISA
6) secular - free of race and religion doped education

The whole problem in Malaysia is deteriorating education standard to cater weak students
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Better to enhance the status of STPM and give more resources to STPM.

Let more STPM graduate to have more chance to enter University.

Mostly the poor Chinese have to study STPM to enter U.

The students who take UEC and other foreign exams are all kaya-raya.

Our government do not know that the many STPM students are from poor family.
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U likely misled to think CIS is kaya raya. It is just another pathway with higher standard especially in math and reduced race/religion bias curriculum.
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QUOTE(keybearer @ Dec 11 2025, 01:35 PM)
GagalLand can see you no more sus, kam in give a few words about Akmal.
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Akmal jahil aka ignorance. DAP responded

https://m.malaysiakini.com/my#google_vignette
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if BN gov, UEC okay
if PN gov, UEC okay
if PH gov, UEC okay
UEC > all
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Let's say if UEC is recognise it will be stiffer competition among type C to enroll to IPT cause there's another channel of students to apply.
It still won't affect the non non. the quota of IPT is still the same but number of applicants increase.
So why non non so kecoh?
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U r outdated by 20+ years. Quota at University level been abolished then.

The quota been moved to PreU 90:10

University intake with multiple pathway been set with matriculation
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I come from cis and am going to send my child to cis also. But i dont really care UEC is recognised or not in Malaysia tbh

I will still support DAP as a cainis even they let me down.

They let me down because they cant get more for cainis even they hold more numbers. The easy above the water benchmark will be GPS and UMNO, where they hold worse cards then DAP but the win more thus far

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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Dec 11 2025, 05:54 PM)

recognize UEC mean what? maybe to join as gov servant, that the only biggest advantages.
I don't know. Which Taip C parent will be happy to hear anak mau become civil servant?

Unless Dr doing houseman kat hospital 😁
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Dec 11 2025, 02:33 PM)
This, really only those Cina bukit rednecks care.

Another thing is many people dunno secondary Chinese vernecular schools smkc exist. Those at new village lagi lah tak ada. So most lowly educated Cina bukit will instead get lead to believe u either go smk study lousy education with malays and your kid later lunch at toilet or u go study uec

Problem is uec not cheap, it's a private school and many these Cina bukit are poor. Worst when their kids say want further study at Taiwan lol.

Those say can choose spm or uec, cmon la, u pay so much d for uec education, then last min change back to spm, a qualification which is cheap cheap one? Of course you they dowan la. U expect the kids to choose? At 17yo kids are still fucking dumb about the real world la
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U r kind of dumb to confuse uec with spm
1) uec is par with stpm. So saved 1 year
2) cis timetable until 3++pm. More curriculum coverage
3) cis discipline is generally better than smk
4) uec is not that expensive. Rm4k+ per year compare to international school 30k
5) taiwan/china do hv scholarship program. Top student normally taken by SG



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Can someone make me understand why some group want UEC to be recognised?as far as I know half of type C look down on gomen uni and gomen jobs..so I seriously don’t understand..what am I missing?
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Why nip the option when only half C dislike gomen jobs which pay less compare to market?
Some like stable job?
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pinjam ptptn, masuk utar ktar sudah. jangan banyak citer. bumi ini milik siapa?
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“Ada tiga (prinsip) jer. Pertama, mesti gunakan bahasa pengantar utama Bahasa Malaysia; kedua, mesti menggunakan kurikulum yang sama iaitu kurikulum kebangsaan.
"Kebangsaan ini negara kitalah; dan ketiga, adalah mesti menduduki peperiksaan yang sama.


the irony. oh mai
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But akmal forget to demo that matriculation exam and curriculum is different to stpm

And what happen to DLP
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Dec 11 2025, 11:50 AM)
Also because they don't want to go SMK. They want cina education and also free tertiary education.
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U confused. Malaysia ipta where got free tertiary education unless scholarship

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QUOTE(KarchKiraly @ Dec 11 2025, 12:00 PM)
Pmx better kick out both Umno & Dap. Only then their true colours will show. Enough of these marriage of convenience, nothing really gets done except protecting the corrupt politicians.
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QUOTE(Srbn @ Dec 11 2025, 12:01 PM)
No politician want to enhance STPM status.

I suggest that half of the IPTA intake should be from STPM.

Thus, Chinese school student can take STPM exam for IPTA application.

But sadly, at the moment, almost all IPTA seats are given to matrikulasi.
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It is standardized exam with need based quota targetted low income is better option?

U r still stuck with race argument
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Akmal cuma seekor semut. Buat apa peduli dia punya cakap?
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Actually I oso no agree.

Why mau iktiraf some random edu silibus?
Next time ask for Indonesia, Nigeria, Papua new guine lor
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Dec 11 2025, 05:59 PM)
Just because you know, doesn't mean everyone know. You would be surprised many dunno.  You think every town has a smkjc? Let me pick for you dumb idiot la, Sungai petani has a lot Chinese do they have smkjc? How about Teluk intan? Jenjarom new village? Sg pelek? Tanjung sepat? Johor Bahru got? So if you idiot don't know what's the reality of really poor uneducated Cina, best you shut the fuck up.
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So what actually were you trying to spin? Earlier on, you claimed that some rural Chinese weren't aware of the existence of SMJK. Now you're saying some areas don't have SMJK. Maybe try to stick to a single narrative instead of going roda impian on me?

As a matter of fact, I've stopped by SP a lot when I was studying in UUM. There's SMJK Sin Min there but perhaps it has disappeared based on your testimony.

Whether a Chinese parents aware or not of the existence holds no water anyway. SMJKC is no different than a SMK other than the addition of the Chinese language subject but somehow you make it sound like it's an extension of SJKC where the medium of teaching is still in mother tongue language kek.

And why do you conveniently evade the question on how much is the UEC fee which you claimed to be exorbitant?

Maybe keep calm & don't koyak just because people call out your BS?

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QUOTE(novblaze @ Dec 11 2025, 07:18 PM)
Actually I oso no agree.

Why mau iktiraf some random edu silibus?
Next time ask for Indonesia, Nigeria, Papua new guine lor
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You think Malaysia education is great ka? Why education still produce B40 after many decades?
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U r kind of dumb to confuse uec with spm
1) uec is par with stpm. So saved 1 year
2) cis timetable until 3++pm. More curriculum coverage
3) cis discipline is generally better than smk
4) uec is not that expensive. Rm4k+ per year compare to international school 30k
5) taiwan/china do hv scholarship program. Top student normally taken by SG
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Yaya u most clever
Yaya uec cis the best
Yaya 4k per year everyone can afford for all their kids, all Cina very rich in Malaysia
Yaya all Cina most clever and can get scholarship
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I m not going to vote pH in next ge because of this guy, I think most ppl around me will do the same. Recognize uec is just a plus point, let that guy do whatever he want is something I can't accept. Dap still don't see the problem n so naive thinks that simply recognize uec can bring back the support?

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QUOTE(tientien @ Dec 11 2025, 07:52 PM)
I m not going to vote pH in next ge because of this guy, I think most ppl around me will do the same. Recognize uec is just a plus point, let that guy do whatever he want is something I can't accept. Dap still don't see the problem n so naive thinks that simply recognize uec can bring back the support?
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Just chill at home
Imagine penat penat going vote when everyone is the same only
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QUOTE(novblaze @ Dec 11 2025, 07:18 PM)
Actually I oso no agree.

Why mau iktiraf some random edu silibus?
Next time ask for Indonesia, Nigeria, Papua new guine lor
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Because some history and shit. I also didn't read. Just from Colonial times and consider hak asasi after that.

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Akmal jahil aka ignorance. DAP responded

https://m.malaysiakini.com/my#google_vignette
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PMX jangan iktiraf UEC - Akmal 'sailang' desakan DAP

Sejak kekalahan besar dalam pilihan raya negeri Sabah, DAP berikrar untuk menggerakkan agenda reformasi, dengan salah satu isu utamanya ialah pengiktirafan Sijil Peperiksaan Bersepadu (UEC).
Pun begitu, Ketua Pemuda Umno Dr Akmal Saleh dengan pantas menyekat usaha DAP dengan menyasarkan kecamannya kepada Timbalan Pengerusi DAP Nga Kor Ming, menegaskan pihaknya tidak akan berkompromi.
Ini susulan kenyataan Nga, yang juga menteri pembangunan kerajaan tempatan dan perumahan, bahawa DAP akan meminta pertemuan dengan Perdana Menteri Anwar Ibrahim untuk membincangkan pengiktirafan UEC.

"Kepada PMX saya rayu sangat janganlah kita nak mengiktiraf UEC ni," tegas ketua Pemuda Umno itu.
Dalam hantaran di Facebook, ketua Pemuda Umno itu berkata sebagai menteri, Nga sepatutnya sudah maklum mengenai dasar pendidikan negara.

“Ada tiga (prinsip) jer. Pertama, mesti gunakan bahasa pengantar utama Bahasa Malaysia; kedua, mesti menggunakan kurikulum yang sama iaitu kurikulum kebangsaan.
"Kebangsaan ini negara kitalah; dan ketiga, adalah mesti menduduki peperiksaan yang sama.
"Untuk makluman YB Nga Kor Ming, sama ada kamu tahu atau buat tak tahu UEC ni tidak langsung menepati tiga syarat... macam mana kita nak iktiraf," soalnya.

Akmal berkata jika Nga memperjuangkan hak pendidikan untuk pihak lain, perlu difahami bahawa UEC sudah pun diberi ruang yang besar.
Dia mengimbas perkembangan dasar mengenai UEC, bermula dengan Dr Mahathir Mohamad — ketika itu menteri pelajaran pada 1975 — yang membenarkan peperiksaan tersebut diteruskan.
Akmal juga menyebut bahawa pada 2004, ketika pentadbiran bekas perdana menteri Najib Razak, institusi pengajian tinggi swasta dibenarkan menerima pemegang UEC.

Selain itu, sejak 2010, UEC diterima bagi kemasukan ke program Ijazah Sarjana Muda Pendidikan (Bahasa Cina) di Institut Pendidikan Guru bawah Kementerian Pendidikan dan sejak 2019, untuk melanjutkan pengajian dalam bidang undang-undang.
Menegur Nga secara langsung, Akmal menyoal: “Saya nak tanya YB menteri, kamu tahu tak dalam dunia ni Malaysia saja yang iktiraf, ada sistem pendidikan vernakular? Tak payah pergi tempat lainlah, kau pergi, adakah Singapura iktiraf sistem lain daripada sistem kebangsaan mereka. Jawapannya tidak.”
Semalam, Malaysiakini melaporkan bahawa kenyataan terbaru Nga mengenai UEC kembali mencetuskan kecaman terhadap DAP, dengan dakwaan parti itu sedang cuba melemahkan orang Melayu.

Kenyataannya itu diterjemahkan di media sosial Melayu sebagai tekanan DAP terhadap Anwar, sekali gus membangkitkan reaksi negatif.
Setiausaha Agung DAP Anthony Loke kemudian cuba memperbetulkan naratif mengenai UEC sebagai sesuatu yang melengkapi usaha memartabatkan bahasa Melayu.
Dalam wawancara dengan saluran YouTube berbahasa Cina “The Keywords”, Loke berkata kerajaan akan memperkenalkan dasar baru dalam tempoh enam bulan untuk memperkukuh semua bahasa, termasuk melibatkan pengiktirafan UEC.

Penyokong Cina DAP pula mendesak agar pengiktirafan UEC dibuat “tanpa sebarang syarat tambahan”.

Manifesto PH bagi pilihan raya umum 2018 berjanji bahawa gabungan itu “akan mengiktiraf sijil UEC untuk kemasukan ke institusi pengajian tinggi awam (IPTA) dengan syarat pemohon mendapat kredit Bahasa Malaysia di peringkat SPM. Untuk tujuan ini, sijil UEC akan dinilai setara dengan kelayakan umum sedia ada untuk kemasukan ke IPTA.”
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Talk so long ended up quoting 2018 manifesto. Quote la 2022 manifesto.
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Vernacular school guaranteed under Article 152 should include tertiary education nowadays, as that is the minimum in this time and age, and the constitution should be updated and amended accordingly. DAP should build the first Chinese medium university so MCA can stop barking that they built UTAR ot TARUMT.
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mangkuk datang lagi dengan imaginasi boogey man
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Vernacular school guaranteed under Article 152 should include tertiary education nowadays, as that is the minimum in this time and age, and the constitution should be updated and amended accordingly. DAP should build the first Chinese medium university so MCA can stop barking that they built UTAR ot TARUMT.
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many ppl interprete the constitution differently

like certain benefits, constitution x cakap pun, dia pun boleh kata constitution kata hak kami

what are you gonna do?
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many ppl interprete the constitution differently

like certain benefits, constitution x cakap pun, dia pun boleh kata constitution kata hak kami

what are you gonna do?
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Why the big fuss over 40 schools in malaya. 20 schools in S+S already recognised.
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I believe you copied an incomplete URL.
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Oh yeah. Below is the full link

https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/763191
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You think Malaysia education is great ka? Why education still produce B40 after many decades?
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If it's so good as you said. Why even bother iktiraf or not
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First we have people who don't know about UEC main hantam

Also we have people who looks like defending UEC with all the incorrect info

Dont worry guys, they are working on the recognition ok, just it's complicated
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Dec 11 2025, 08:38 PM)
many ppl interprete the constitution differently

like certain benefits, constitution x cakap pun, dia pun boleh kata constitution kata hak kami

what are you gonna do?
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if it is beneficial to them, why not claim it?
Just like Sanusi wanna claim Penang, although it is clearly go against constitution

they even can claim roman learn to build ship from them
not so hard to claim here and there la
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Hahahahaha....

All the politikers, influencers, bla bla bla come out to debate this...


MEANWHILE

those who really wanted UEC recognition just hoping to get a slot at IPTA which they most likely wont get since they will choose those hot subjects which already had limited quota, and an even worse chance of getting one since they are non bumi anyway.

In the end, one whole Malaysia hoooo haaaa hoooo haaaa calling their grandfather, grandmother, father and mother all kind of names to get nothing....

Truly 1Malaysia in the end...
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Vernacular school guaranteed under Article 152 should include tertiary education nowadays, as that is the minimum in this time and age, and the constitution should be updated and amended accordingly. DAP should build the first Chinese medium university so MCA can stop barking that they built UTAR ot TARUMT.
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Wait... UTAR also not recognized what... or did MCA finally did something?
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Wait... UTAR also not recognized what... or did MCA finally did something?
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UTAR degree same as IPTA ones la, so many illeterate in k
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UTAR degree same as IPTA ones la, so many illeterate in k
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I see... ayam graduate long before that...

Didnt update with the news...
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Because of the messy education system. Private U and colleges flourish in MY. Non have no choice to work harder for children education fees.
Interestingly PN didn't comments but always the UMNO making sound.

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Because of the messy education system. Private U and colleges flourish in MY. Non have no choice to work harder for children education fees.
Interestingly PN didn't comments but always the UMNO making sound.
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Because they realized it's not about education but rather colors
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QUOTE(neutronproton @ Dec 11 2025, 08:34 PM)
Vernacular school guaranteed under Article 152 should include tertiary education nowadays, as that is the minimum in this time and age, and the constitution should be updated and amended accordingly. DAP should build the first Chinese medium university so MCA can stop barking that they built UTAR ot TARUMT.
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Please no.

The only reason UEC and chinese medium school is even an issue is because the normal path to IPTA like STPM and Matriks etc is still being blocked by quotas (directly or indirectly).

DAP should focus on making those more equitable instead of further splitting the education streams. It is not good for the country.

Even if you want to look at it purely politically, they will not win this battle. every step they take forward with chinese education enthusiast (minority among chinese) is 10 steps back among ALL the malays.

MCA bark about UTAR etc also get egg during election. Don't make the same mistake.

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QUOTE(neutronproton @ Dec 11 2025, 08:34 PM)
Vernacular school guaranteed under Article 152 should include tertiary education nowadays, as that is the minimum in this time and age, and the constitution should be updated and amended accordingly. DAP should build the first Chinese medium university so MCA can stop barking that they built UTAR ot TARUMT.
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Already got few chinese medium ipts.
Why DAP want to do so to follow mca fool step
Chinese reject mca even utar around. So ask dap follow?
Learn history bang


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QUOTE(cheryee @ Dec 11 2025, 10:36 AM)
STPM pun susah nak dapat tempat kat IPTA, let alone UEC (if being recognised).

Also, those who pergi CIS, why are they aiming IPTA??? Tak paham 🤦‍♀️
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this, the whole objective of recognising UEC is so that the graduate can apply IPTA using UEC.

at the current state, even 9A SPM also doesnt guarantee a place in our IPTA, how are the system gonna fit you in???

logic ke luat mana ni?

IF unker is PM, I will abolish UEC and also abolish the so call quota into IPTA, all Kalayaan will be based on metric only.

This will solve all the issue.

Kalau yg lain bising tongkat lagi, itu la sebab kami ade

Universiti Poly-Tech Malaysia (UPTM)
Kolej Poly-Tech MARA (KPTM)
Kolej Kemahiran Tinggi MARA (KKTM)
Kolej MARA

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this, the whole objective of recognising UEC is so that the graduate can apply IPTA using UEC.

at the current state, even 9A STPM also doesnt guarantee a place in our IPTA, how are the system gonna fit you in???

logic ke luat mana ni?

IF unker is PM, I will abolish UEC and also abolish the so call quota into IPTA, all Kalayaan will be based on metric only.

This will solve all the issue.

Kalau yg lain bising tongkat lagi, itu la sebab kami ade

Universiti Poly-Tech Malaysia (UPTM)
Kolej Poly-Tech MARA (KPTM)
Kolej Kemahiran Tinggi MARA (KKTM)
Kolej MARA
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What crap u talking about stpm 9As?
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QUOTE(karazure @ Dec 12 2025, 10:22 AM)
this, the whole objective of recognising UEC is so that the graduate can apply IPTA using UEC.

at the current state, even 9A STPM also doesnt guarantee a place in our IPTA, how are the system gonna fit you in???

logic ke luat mana ni?

IF unker is PM, I will abolish UEC and also abolish the so call quota into IPTA, all Kalayaan will be based on metric only.

This will solve all the issue.

Kalau yg lain bising tongkat lagi, itu la sebab kami ade

Universiti Poly-Tech Malaysia (UPTM)
Kolej Poly-Tech MARA (KPTM)
Kolej Kemahiran Tinggi MARA (KKTM)
Kolej MARA
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What crap u talking about stpm 9As?
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which part u dont understand??? 9A STPM confusing?
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which part u dont understand??? 9A STPM confusing?
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Who got STPM 9As?
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Who got STPM 9As?
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my apologies, unker mean SPM 9A

unker old edi...bagi chance

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which part u dont understand??? 9A STPM confusing?
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I thought STPM maximum 5 subjects only?

edit: nvm posted at same time

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a) insecurity , insecure

b) incapable to give equal rights, but go out there telling the world about "equal" rights...

c) non-related to them....wanna paste their 3R declaration on them macam "law"

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my apologies, unker mean SPM 9A

unker old edi...bagi chance
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Just to highlight SPM only can take diploma program now and i m very sure 9A can get a slot in IPTA

The issue is stpm going to bachelor degree. Whereas matriculation student hv advantages of national level CCA when compete among matriculation
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I remembered many years ago when my son scored 9A1 and 1A2. Did not get place for local uni. Later he took A levels at Sunway. So applied to Australia. Education counsellor want A level results, Tae Kwon Do certs but do not want SPM certs. And he graduated from Australia National Uni with Economics Degree.

Many yrs later, my daughter was crying about Government kept switching from English to BM. I decided to find her the cheapest Int school I could find. She returned with MSc in Medicinal Chemistry from UK.

What I am trying to say is these Ministry officials had all the time to flip flop according to politics in trying to please a certain race and they can still sleep every night. But our children cannot have the luxury of time in their game. Once the golden education opportunity had passed, their future is at stake. So do not expect or beholden to what the Ministry do. We decide what's best for our children and move on with or without these education policies.
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I really dont think UEC is the biggest issue here that concerns the chinese
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Dec 12 2025, 10:17 AM)
Already got few chinese medium ipts.
Why DAP want to do so to follow mca fool step
Chinese reject mca even utar around. So ask dap follow?
Learn history bang
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QUOTE(bonedragon @ Dec 12 2025, 10:11 AM)
Please no.

The only reason UEC and chinese medium school is even an issue is because the normal path to IPTA like STPM and Matriks etc is still being blocked by quotas (directly or indirectly).

DAP should focus on making those more equitable instead of further splitting the education streams. It is not good for the country.

Even if you want to look at it purely politically, they will not win this battle. every step they take forward with chinese education enthusiast (minority among chinese) is 10 steps back among ALL the malays.

MCA bark about UTAR etc also get egg during election. Don't make the same mistake.
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absolutely yes.

if you are banana pls dont talk kok pls, you are fake chinese and fake white, neither here nor there.
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QUOTE(funniman @ Dec 12 2025, 12:31 PM)
I remembered many years ago when my son scored 9A1 and 1A2. Did not get place for local uni.  Later he took A levels at Sunway. So applied to Australia. Education counsellor want A level results, Tae Kwon Do certs but do not want SPM certs. And he graduated from Australia National Uni with Economics Degree.

Many yrs later, my daughter was crying about Government kept switching from English to BM. I decided to find her the cheapest Int school I could find. She returned with  MSc in Medicinal Chemistry from UK.

What I am trying to say is these Ministry officials had all the time to flip flop according to politics in trying to please a certain race and they can still sleep every night.  But our children cannot have the luxury of time in their game. Once the golden education opportunity had passed, their future is at stake. So do not expect or beholden to what the Ministry do. We decide what's best for our children and move on with or without these education policies.
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Being able to afford overseas education and international schools means you have a well above average financial background, not many have this luxury.
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Being able to afford overseas education and international schools means you have a well above average financial background, not many have this luxury.
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Not true. My son survived on coins many times before I can send him money. Have to standby to sell low cost house to tide things over, lucky no need. He worked part time. We don't even have enough money to buy air ticket to visit him.

The story is we do not have time, if our children passed his enrolment dates, he loses that golden opportunity to study. We have to plan on our own. We cannot rely on Government policies to recognise this or that. Complain yes, but don't be dependent on it.

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QUOTE(neutronproton @ Dec 12 2025, 01:51 PM)
absolutely yes.

if you are banana pls dont talk kok pls, you are fake chinese and fake white, neither here nor there.
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LOL please, how many people even take UEC. And out of the UEC, how many want to go to IPTA? You have your answer there.

It's mathematics, can't argue against it. Even innumerate new village unker like you should be able to understand.
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QUOTE(funniman @ Dec 12 2025, 02:49 PM)
Not true. My son survived on coins many times before I can send him money. Have to standby to sell low cost house to tide things over, lucky no need. He worked part time. We don't even have enough money to buy air ticket to visit him.

The story is we do not have time, if our children passed his enrolment dates, he loses that golden opportunity to study. We have to plan on our own. We cannot rely on Government policies to recognise this or that. Complain yes, but don't be dependent on it.
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That's easily more than 1 million you spent on your children's education. Keep denying, but the facts say otherwise. I don't know what you used as a benchmark, as your surroundings might be mostly financially well-off folks. You may think you are not well off from your viewpoint, but that kind of spending is at least upper-middle-class and above in Malaysia.
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Jgn takut UEC . Penang, Sabah dan Sarawak dah setuju
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I really dont think UEC is the biggest issue here that concerns the chinese
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no chinese medium ipts in malaysia as of now
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Jahil?
Southern college and new era been over 20 years
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QUOTE(bonedragon @ Dec 12 2025, 02:55 PM)
LOL please, how many people even take UEC. And out of the UEC, how many want to go to IPTA? You have your answer there.

It's mathematics, can't argue against it. Even innumerate new village unker like you should be able to understand.
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Nobody know since IPTA does not recognise uec.....
U plucking data from air?
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QUOTE(funniman @ Dec 12 2025, 12:31 PM)
I remembered many years ago when my son scored 9A1 and 1A2. Did not get place for local uni.  Later he took A levels at Sunway. So applied to Australia. Education counsellor want A level results, Tae Kwon Do certs but do not want SPM certs. And he graduated from Australia National Uni with Economics Degree.

Many yrs later, my daughter was crying about Government kept switching from English to BM. I decided to find her the cheapest Int school I could find. She returned with  MSc in Medicinal Chemistry from UK.

What I am trying to say is these Ministry officials had all the time to flip flop according to politics in trying to please a certain race and they can still sleep every night.  But our children cannot have the luxury of time in their game. Once the golden education opportunity had passed, their future is at stake. So do not expect or beholden to what the Ministry do. We decide what's best for our children and move on with or without these education policies.
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SPM cannot take bachelor degree now.
So my best guess is quota era. With the academic result still failed to get into ipta mean co-curriculum score is on the low side right?

Malaysia been using 90% academic + 10% cca uni admission criteria
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Dec 12 2025, 04:30 PM)
Nobody know since IPTA does not recognise uec.....
U plucking data from air?
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Since everyone knows IPTA does not recognize UEC, will they go UEC with the goal of entering IPTA? Guna logik sikit lah. Is like I join Monash foundation course then complain can't enter UM. LOL!

Anyway recognizing UEC for IPTA is a red herring, nobody cares either way. But the other poster asking for IPTS in chinese language really brain dead. I think these kind of people better all leave DAP join back MCA. They can continue barking about UEC and extreme chinese education there and continue losing election for next 50 years.

Meanwhile DAP free of this burden can do the actual structural and societal reforms that benefit everyone.
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QUOTE(bonedragon @ Dec 12 2025, 06:26 PM)
Since everyone knows IPTA does not recognize UEC, will they go UEC with the goal of entering IPTA? Guna logik sikit lah. Is like I join Monash foundation course then complain can't enter UM. LOL!

Anyway recognizing UEC for IPTA is a red herring, nobody cares either way. But the other poster asking for IPTS in chinese language really brain dead. I think these kind of people better all leave DAP join back MCA. They can continue barking about UEC and extreme chinese education there and continue losing election for next 50 years.

Meanwhile DAP free of this burden can do the actual structural and societal reforms that benefit everyone.
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U confused as always. UEC is preU comparable to A level that does not link to any university. So u mean A level cannot enter UM? I confirmed it can and know actual case.

Btw, u r real ignorant on Chinese medium IPTS. It already exist in Malaysia for over 20 years

When u r scared cat and refuse to help, don't look down on others that pursuing
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Dec 12 2025, 06:37 PM)
U confused as always. UEC is preU comparable to A level that does not link to any university. So u mean A level cannot enter UM? I confirmed it can and know actual case.

Btw, u r real ignorant on Chinese medium IPTS. It already exist in Malaysia for over 20 years

When u r scared cat and refuse to help, don't look down on others that pursuing
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UEC is just a private education cert that is conjured up by a bunch of old farts at Dong Zong within its own ecosystem with the original intention to enter Chinese universities overseas.

No one with half a brain take UEC to enter IPTA.

No such thing as chinese medium IPTS officially. You talking about shophouse IPTS is it?
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QUOTE(bonedragon @ Dec 12 2025, 06:45 PM)
UEC is just a private education cert that is conjured up by a bunch of old farts at Dong Zong within its own ecosystem with the original intention to enter Chinese universities overseas.

No one with half a brain take UEC to enter IPTA.

No such thing as chinese medium IPTS officially. You talking about shophouse IPTS is it?
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UEC recognition hv been exceeded it's earlier aim and accepted by diversed university. It is proving its quality dude

Avoiding answer to why A level can enter IPTS but not UEC?

U damn jahil. Southern college and new era?
Read more dude. Read more
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Dec 12 2025, 06:57 PM)
UEC recognition hv been exceeded it's earlier aim and accepted by diversed university. It is proving its quality dude

Avoiding answer to why A level can enter IPTS but not UEC?

U damn jahil. Southern college and new era?
Read more dude. Read more
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Nah read this:

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The curriculum at NEUC is primarily conducted in English, except for the Teaching Chinese as a Second Language programme and the Chinese Language and Literature programme.


Southern university doesn't even have a working website, so sounds like the kind of shophouse IPTS I was talking about.

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seriously la u all expect the gov to recognize UEC now? u want the gov to tumbang is it? please understand the current political climate of our country first before asking DAP to demand this demand that la, what can they do?
u all think today MCA or gerakan become part of the gov then BN or PN will iktiraf UEC is it? dont joke la, u all want sheraton 2.0 to happen again is it? recognize UEC more important or keeping the current gov intact until the next GE more important, all the chinese in malaysia please do more critical thinking and think of the consequences of all the demands u guys are asking for
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Dec 12 2025, 07:48 PM)
seriously la u all expect the gov to recognize UEC now? u want the gov to tumbang is it? please understand the current political climate of our country first before asking DAP to demand this demand that la, what can they do?
u all think today MCA or gerakan become part of the gov then BN or PN will iktiraf UEC is it? dont joke la, u all want sheraton 2.0 to happen again is it? recognize UEC more important or keeping the current gov intact until the next GE more important, all the chinese in malaysia please do more critical thinking and think of the consequences of all the demands u guys are asking for
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Who brought it up in first place? DAP… they asked for it, hoping to win brownies point after Sabah whitewashed. NKM said he wanted to speak to Anwar, last week or this week , no?
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Dec 12 2025, 08:50 PM)
Who brought it up in first place?  DAP… they asked for it, hoping to win brownies point after Sabah whitewashed.  NKM said he wanted to speak to Anwar, last week or this week , no?
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Dec 12 2025, 07:48 PM)
seriously la u all expect the gov to recognize UEC now? u want the gov to tumbang is it? please understand the current political climate of our country first before asking DAP to demand this demand that la, what can they do?
u all think today MCA or gerakan become part of the gov then BN or PN will iktiraf UEC is it? dont joke la, u all want sheraton 2.0 to happen again is it? recognize UEC more important or keeping the current gov intact until the next GE more important, all the chinese in malaysia please do more critical thinking and think of the consequences of all the demands u guys are asking for
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Becareful what u asking for
Know your position

Berapa dekad dah lol, still playing this trick

If this thing cannot success during harmony government, unity government time, ask during when ?




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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 12 2025, 07:57 PM)
Loke and KoMeng got bargaining power wonot against BMX??


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His answer already showed you how much power or authority they have, no?

Someone mentioned last week that if DAP got out, PAS will come in to support. Maybe that’s why Anwar is to brave now
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its time for ge 16
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snap election can happen anytime soon..... this will spark the flame of snap election...

healthcare, resource, education, army, culture and environment, anything lack or shaky situation within these category will be fatal...
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QUOTE(AyamBlend @ Dec 12 2025, 08:00 PM)
Lel
Becareful what u asking for
Know your position

Berapa dekad dah lol, still playing this trick

If this thing cannot success during harmony government, unity government time, ask during when ?
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ask when the gov is strong and stable like during BN 2/3 super majority era and not when the gov is weak with multiple coalition in it and high risk of breaking up if any of the coalition member leaves
and most importantly not demanding it when DAP have the most seats in the coalition lol, any demand from DAP will be twisted by the opposition as cina taukeh DAP kuasai kerajaan malaysia, melayu hilang kuasa etc
dont forget BN can anytime team up with PN if things go sour in unity gov

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Dec 12 2025, 08:10 PM)
ask when the gov is strong and stable like during BN 2/3 super majority era and not when the gov is weak with multiple coalition in it and high risk of breaking up if any of the coalition member leaves
and most importantly not demanding it when DAP have the most seats in the coalition lol, any demand from DAP will be twisted by the opposition as cina taukeh DAP kuasai kerajaan malaysia, melayu hilang kuasa etc
dont forget BN can anytime team up with PN if things go sour in unity gov
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Okay please continue to remind the people wait .. wait and wait yeah
Or remind the politician don't play with UEC issue next GE onwards

Now have more critical issues to solve, as usual
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QUOTE(AyamBlend @ Dec 12 2025, 08:16 PM)
Okay please continue to remind the people wait .. wait and wait yeah
Or remind the politician don't play with UEC issue next GE onwards

Now have more critical issues to solve, as usual
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yeah critical issues like fixing the ekonomi negara which is currently ongoing and thats why MYR is currently asia's strongest currency for year 2025, gedit? or u wan the bunch of jokers from PN to lead the country and 1usd = 5myr now? LOL
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Dec 12 2025, 08:27 PM)
yeah critical issues like fixing the ekonomi negara which is currently ongoing and thats why MYR is currently asia's strongest currency for year 2025, gedit? or u wan the bunch of jokers from PN to lead the country and 1usd = 5myr now? LOL
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Here we go again!!! 😎😎😎😎
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QUOTE(bonedragon @ Dec 12 2025, 07:19 PM)
Nah read this:
Southern university doesn't even have a working website, so sounds like the kind of shophouse IPTS I was talking about.
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Please do due diligence. 1st page shown in google when search southern college. If u r out of country, then just add southern college Malaysia
https://www.southern.edu.my/

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It is having dedicated campus with dormitory as well
R u chinese? Do u know foon yew school?
This is its tertiary level.
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Dec 12 2025, 07:48 PM)
seriously la u all expect the gov to recognize UEC now? u want the gov to tumbang is it? please understand the current political climate of our country first before asking DAP to demand this demand that la, what can they do?
u all think today MCA or gerakan become part of the gov then BN or PN will iktiraf UEC is it? dont joke la, u all want sheraton 2.0 to happen again is it? recognize UEC more important or keeping the current gov intact until the next GE more important, all the chinese in malaysia please do more critical thinking and think of the consequences of all the demands u guys are asking for
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pm and gomen can comes and goes, the people and country will remain.

QUOTE(fongsk @ Dec 12 2025, 08:04 PM)
His answer already showed you how much power or authority they have, no?

Someone mentioned last week that if DAP got out, PAS will come in to support.  Maybe that’s why Anwar is to brave now
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similar to pn gomen during covid, unlikely to win in the ge.

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QUOTE(fongsk @ Dec 12 2025, 08:04 PM)
His answer already showed you how much power or authority they have, no?

Someone mentioned last week that if DAP got out, PAS will come in to support.  Maybe that’s why Anwar is to brave now
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Many can't see. I don't blame them. If you work in a GLC co b4, and you a non, will know why. This county is rotten to the core.
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QUOTE(ze2 @ Dec 12 2025, 10:59 PM)
Many can't see. I don't blame them. If you work in a GLC co b4, and you a non, will know why. This county is rotten to the core.
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yada2.. then why stay.. go aussie pick grape lah..
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yada2.. then why stay.. go aussie pick grape lah..
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U go Palestine la
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Dec 12 2025, 08:04 PM)
His answer already showed you how much power or authority they have, no?

Someone mentioned last week that if DAP got out, PAS will come in to support.  Maybe that’s why Anwar is to brave now
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It will still end up with infighting
It is in their character. Muafakat nasional shown it
It is marriage of convenience without loyalty
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Dec 12 2025, 06:57 PM)
UEC recognition hv been exceeded it's earlier aim and accepted by diversed university. It is proving its quality dude

Avoiding answer to why A level can enter IPTS but not UEC?

U damn jahil. Southern college and new era?
Read more dude. Read more
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QUOTE(bonedragon @ Dec 12 2025, 07:19 PM)
Nah read this:
Southern university doesn't even have a working website, so sounds like the kind of shophouse IPTS I was talking about.
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Lol this abelyap thinks he's the most clever person in the world la. He's very proud of the so called Chinese medium shoplot "university" college with their funny "degree" , if that's the best uec can do, no wonder so many bitching about entering ipta.



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QUOTE(ze2 @ Dec 12 2025, 10:59 PM)
Many can't see. I don't blame them. If you work in a GLC co b4, and you a non, will know why. This county is rotten to the core.
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I suppose so cos I have worked in mnc all my life.
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Dec 12 2025, 11:10 PM)
It will still end up with infighting
It is in their character. Muafakat nasional shown it
It is marriage of convenience without loyalty
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Could be but their reasons for working together is more cohesive together, ie Islamic nation. If you go back to history, that is who Anwar was even his BN days. And he had shown so much of it in his tenure as PM the last 3 years.
His cooperation with DAP is just for power and premiership, arguably. If the rumours are true about PAS joining him, should DAP leaves is true, then he has nothing to worry.
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uec is just a matriculation verssion to bypass the current flow to higher education. Mark can easily regulated to be appear as pass candidate, but it is meant for easier admission into university
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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Dec 13 2025, 06:20 AM)
uec is just a matriculation verssion to bypass the current flow to higher education. Mark can easily regulated to be appear as pass candidate, but it is meant for easier admission into university
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I doubt it is an easier admission but additional option into local universities.
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Dec 12 2025, 10:38 PM)
Please do due diligence. 1st page shown in google when search southern college. If u r out of country, then just add southern college Malaysia
https://www.southern.edu.my/

user posted image

It is having dedicated campus with dormitory as well
R u chinese? Do u know foon yew school?
This is its tertiary level.
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Still not Chinese medium IPTS. Unless you tell me their accounting, engineering, business, marketing, etc degrees are in Chinese.

You can speak whatever you want at the events, speak Tagalog also ok. Doesn't make it pinoy IPTS.

Website still down, worse than sekolah pondok. Maybe should recognize agama school syllabus no need take spm also better.

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Lol this abelyap thinks he's the most clever person in the world la. He's very proud of the so called Chinese medium shoplot "university" college with their funny "degree" , if that's the best uec can do, no wonder so many bitching about entering ipta.
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QUOTE(bonedragon @ Dec 13 2025, 09:03 AM)
Still not Chinese medium IPTS. Unless you tell me their accounting, engineering, business, marketing, etc degrees are in Chinese.

You can speak whatever you want at the events, speak Tagalog also ok. Doesn't make it pinoy IPTS.

Website still down, worse than sekolah pondok. Maybe should recognize agama school syllabus no need take spm also better.
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I can access their website. U might want check on ur browser cache
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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Dec 13 2025, 06:20 AM)
uec is just a matriculation verssion to bypass the current flow to higher education. Mark can easily regulated to be appear as pass candidate, but it is meant for easier admission into university
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U confused already. UEC is standardized exam for 60+3 schools. Meanwhile matriculation is individual lecturer assessment

 

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