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 PMX jangan iktiraf UEC, DAP ke UMNO pemegang telur paling kuat

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neutronproton
post Dec 11 2025, 08:34 PM

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Vernacular school guaranteed under Article 152 should include tertiary education nowadays, as that is the minimum in this time and age, and the constitution should be updated and amended accordingly. DAP should build the first Chinese medium university so MCA can stop barking that they built UTAR ot TARUMT.
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post Dec 11 2025, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Dec 11 2025, 08:38 PM)
many ppl interprete the constitution differently

like certain benefits, constitution x cakap pun, dia pun boleh kata constitution kata hak kami

what are you gonna do?
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vote pas and let the country burn
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post Dec 12 2025, 02:23 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 12 2025, 01:55 AM)
Wait... UTAR also not recognized what... or did MCA finally did something?
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UTAR degree same as IPTA ones la, so many illeterate in k
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post Dec 12 2025, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(abelyap @ Dec 12 2025, 10:17 AM)
Already got few chinese medium ipts.
Why DAP want to do so to follow mca fool step
Chinese reject mca even utar around. So ask dap follow?
Learn history bang
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no chinese medium ipts in malaysia as of now
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post Dec 12 2025, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(bonedragon @ Dec 12 2025, 10:11 AM)
Please no.

The only reason UEC and chinese medium school is even an issue is because the normal path to IPTA like STPM and Matriks etc is still being blocked by quotas (directly or indirectly).

DAP should focus on making those more equitable instead of further splitting the education streams. It is not good for the country.

Even if you want to look at it purely politically, they will not win this battle. every step they take forward with chinese education enthusiast (minority among chinese) is 10 steps back among ALL the malays.

MCA bark about UTAR etc also get egg during election. Don't make the same mistake.
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absolutely yes.

if you are banana pls dont talk kok pls, you are fake chinese and fake white, neither here nor there.
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post Dec 12 2025, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(funniman @ Dec 12 2025, 12:31 PM)
I remembered many years ago when my son scored 9A1 and 1A2. Did not get place for local uni.  Later he took A levels at Sunway. So applied to Australia. Education counsellor want A level results, Tae Kwon Do certs but do not want SPM certs. And he graduated from Australia National Uni with Economics Degree.

Many yrs later, my daughter was crying about Government kept switching from English to BM. I decided to find her the cheapest Int school I could find. She returned with  MSc in Medicinal Chemistry from UK.

What I am trying to say is these Ministry officials had all the time to flip flop according to politics in trying to please a certain race and they can still sleep every night.  But our children cannot have the luxury of time in their game. Once the golden education opportunity had passed, their future is at stake. So do not expect or beholden to what the Ministry do. We decide what's best for our children and move on with or without these education policies.
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Being able to afford overseas education and international schools means you have a well above average financial background, not many have this luxury.
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post Dec 12 2025, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(funniman @ Dec 12 2025, 02:49 PM)
Not true. My son survived on coins many times before I can send him money. Have to standby to sell low cost house to tide things over, lucky no need. He worked part time. We don't even have enough money to buy air ticket to visit him.

The story is we do not have time, if our children passed his enrolment dates, he loses that golden opportunity to study. We have to plan on our own. We cannot rely on Government policies to recognise this or that. Complain yes, but don't be dependent on it.
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That's easily more than 1 million you spent on your children's education. Keep denying, but the facts say otherwise. I don't know what you used as a benchmark, as your surroundings might be mostly financially well-off folks. You may think you are not well off from your viewpoint, but that kind of spending is at least upper-middle-class and above in Malaysia.
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post Yesterday, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Dec 13 2025, 02:43 AM)
Lol this abelyap thinks he's the most clever person in the world la. He's very proud of the so called Chinese medium shoplot "university" college with their funny "degree" , if that's the best uec can do, no wonder so many bitching about entering ipta.
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If you look at most Asian universities, especially those in China, Korea, Japan, and Singapore, their development and achievements depend heavily on government support. It is not about what UEC can or cannot do. Students of UEC have been successfully entering top asian universities, Oxbridge, and the Ivy League.

Southern UC is still primarily an English medium uni, akin to other private colleges in Malaysia. If you are talking about an entirely Chinese medium unis in Malaysia, there is none as of now.
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post Yesterday, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(fongsk @ Dec 13 2025, 05:59 AM)
I suppose so cos I have worked in mnc all my life.
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which mnc? macdonald?
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post Yesterday, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Dec 13 2025, 07:41 PM)
So why want to ente ipta lol. If so good, then go overseas uni la. There's always scholarship to be taken
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because IPTA is the most viable option for nons who are middle class and below. Scholarships always have conditions attached, even if they have none, they are very limited, and only the very lucky few will get them.

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post Yesterday, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Dec 13 2025, 07:59 PM)
But can afford uec fees of 4-5k per year for 11 years?

Look if you can't get scholarship, you just not good enough la, dah tau anak bodoh tu, ambil spm stpm enough d la lol. Ya scholarship comes with bond, then ipta condition is spm sypm mstriks lo. Worst case ptptn kan ada, utar kampar kan ada
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that's entirely your own bigoted opinion. Scholarships are extremely hard for nons (not those tuition fee waivers from colleges). We don't have mara or any other kind of funds set up exclusively for type m. Affordable education should be accessible to all because it is the surest and ethical way for a person to move up the social ladder, regardless of background.
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post Yesterday, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Dec 13 2025, 09:04 PM)
There's a lot more scholarships other than just jpa or gov scholarships, many are full scholarships and some even let's you study overseas in UK/US fully sponsor including living allowances. If u can't get one, then ur just not good enough, simple as that, or u just too ignorant and didn't actually went and check what scholarships are available in Malaysia. But hey we have ptptn also, why? Ptptn also tak layak? If bodoh can't study then go learn vocational skills la, that also earn a lot la.

Oh wait, does those scholarship providers recognize UEC? Next is force those companies to recognize uec ke?
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Scholarship providers are not charities, you bigot, make education opportunities accessible to all, like how they do in China, everything just depends on gaokao marks. Do not obscure and hide all these opportunities behind all the convoluted and hidden pathways that a student who might be less informed and needed to jump through hoops or get to know the right person to get these "exclusive" information, especially low income household whose parents might not be educated about such matters.

also, UK universities are bleeding money now why in the world will they provide scholarships to foreigners, only the few who are extremely exceptional will get sponsored by UK universities. the primary purpose UK universities recruit foregin student is because they want to make money off the guillible asian students.


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post Yesterday, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Dec 13 2025, 09:51 PM)
Ahh product of uec, when can't win an argument, keep insulting others as bigot lol. Look at the sense of entitlement, can't even go and Google what scholarships is available and apply? How immature are you? Need to spoonfeed? This is product of uec? Lol you want scholarship but dictate the terms? Who the fuck you think you are? Grownup la dumb fuck.
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lol dumbfuck, your entire paragraph rests on the false assumption that I took the UEC examination. Based on this reply, I can say your reasoning skills must be lower than those of an average normal person.

And stop talking about scholarship, I am talking about opening up the education opportunities regardless of skin color, or what internationally recognized standardized test they took.

You are shifting the discussion to scholarship, typical of people who keep finding excuses when they know they are wrong both in logic and conscience.
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post Yesterday, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(shingo81 @ Dec 13 2025, 10:00 PM)
Dude, I just can't help to reply you due to your ignorant response.

Scholarships or loans opportunities are abundant in Malaysia. All those 'low income uneducated ill informed no cable household parents' defined by you can actually go talk to their respective schools' personnel, which they will gladly give offer legit advice and point you on the right path if you do have financial difficulties yet your kid have the motivation for further education, be it the academic or vocational route. No educators like seeing any one that is eager to learn be left behind

And yes, if you do not qualify for the scholarship means you are not good enough. Full stop. It is still not the end of the world

If you fancy seeing the country burn in flames with whatever anger you have for it. Go ahead and migrate. Why are you still here? Too poor to migrate is it
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so why are you so triggered? Because I threatened your unfair advantage that you have been exploiting all the while?

Scholarship is abundant for type M. If scholarship is so common, why are so many people still paying to go to IPTS? As I said scholarships are for exceptional talents, how you define "not good enough"? What about those who are above average but not extremely exceptional or talented? They deserve affordable education as it dictates their future. Why talk about scholarship this and that when I am talking about accessible education opportunities to all? Stop introducing this bullshit red herring.

And you and your fellow ktards like to make asummption? wherever the f is "here"?and how are you so certain that i am "here"? The only thing you good at is ad hominem and shit talking? it bring you to nowhere especially to me you are like kids talking nonsense.

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post Yesterday, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Dec 13 2025, 09:51 PM)
We'll I don't expect you to understand, certain products of uec like you are just too immature and dumb to understand the world isn't fair and nobody owes you a living.
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Funny thing is, mentality like yours is exactly why the country cannot escape the middle-income trap, and the country's economy, perception, and confidence are getting increasingly worse, with no sign of improvement heading towards the direction of a failed state.

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